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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hopefully the pitch at the new stadium in Perth will have a bit more in it.</p>— Daniel Christian (@danchristian54) <a href="https://twitter.com/danchristian54/status/665091699434123264">November 13, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/m51avoider">@m51avoider</a> as opposed to the flat boring thing they're playing on today?</p>— Daniel Christian (@danchristian54) <a href="https://twitter.com/danchristian54/status/665092650731593728">November 13, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Is he allowed to say such things? [MENTION=132373]Convict[/MENTION]?
 
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I really enjoyed test matches in aus since i started watching cricket... Usually i woke up early in the morning even if pak wasn't playing just to wtch good test match on supportive oz Wicket's... But since the last tour the oz wickts have been too flat ..too booring test matches no point in watching them

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He can say what he wants

Maybe CA was a bit too worried that New Zealand wouldn't last three days?
 
He can say what he wants

Maybe CA was a bit too worried that New Zealand wouldn't last three days?
What's your honest opinion of the recent wickets Aus have served up?

I swear they were never this bad (deny it all you like, you guys struggled at the Gabba as well).
 
Another Aman thread on the pitches, don't worry NZ will get their turn and score heaps of runs.
 
What's your honest opinion of the recent wickets Aus have served up?

I swear they were never this bad (deny it all you like, you guys struggled at the Gabba as well).

Cant you just have one thread for crying about the pitch instead of several.
 
What's your honest opinion of the recent wickets Aus have served up?

I swear they were never this bad (deny it all you like, you guys struggled at the Gabba as well).

Our guys didn't struggle too badly.

Bowled you out twice pretty easily
 
This bashing of pitches etc is lame! The pitch in the first Test was also criticized but Australia bowled well and bowled NZ out in both the innings!

I wont be surprised if Australia take all the 20 NZ wickets again!
 
This bashing of pitches etc is lame! The pitch in the first Test was also criticized but Australia bowled well and bowled NZ out in both the innings!

I wont be surprised if Australia take all the 20 NZ wickets again!
Not talking about the pitches having an impact on the result i.e. NZ winning.

All I want to see is a contest between bat and ball, I don't care if we win or lose.

It's rather boring seeing a one sided affair between bat and ball.
 
This bashing of pitches etc is lame! The pitch in the first Test was also criticized but Australia bowled well and bowled NZ out in both the innings!

I wont be surprised if Australia take all the 20 NZ wickets again!
I think most people dont mind flat wickets its the hypocrisy of calling Asian wickets roads etc then producing flat roads themselves.

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Last year was flat with little swing of bounce.

The Gabba offered assistance to the bowlers just as this WACA wicket will.
 
I think most people dont mind flat wickets its the hypocrisy of calling Asian wickets roads etc then producing flat roads themselves.

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we'll see when Australia bowls just how 'little' assistance is in the wicket.
 
Not talking about the pitches having an impact on the result i.e. NZ winning.

All I want to see is a contest between bat and ball, I don't care if we win or lose.

It's rather boring seeing a one sided affair between bat and ball.

well your bowlers should be blamed for this! The way they have bowled so far is just not acceptable! Your batting line up is solid! I would say better than Australia's! But the thing is they lack confidence at the moment and that confidence must be provided by ur bowlers! If bowlers restrict the opposition to a low total then the batsmen will find that much needed confidence to score big!
 
we'll see when Australia bowls just how 'little' assistance is in the wicket.
Hm.

Swear the tune was different when Pakistan racked up massive scores in the UAE before your boys had a go on the same lifeless tracks.
 
Hm.

Swear the tune was different when Pakistan racked up massive scores in the UAE before your boys had a go on the same lifeless tracks.

I've mostly blamed our guys and our lack of a spin attack that can get wickets on those pitches
 
I've mostly blamed our guys and our lack of a spin attack that can get wickets on those pitches
Those tracks were lifeless, you guys blamed scoreboard pressure and wanted to bat first...
 
PakPassion Logic:

Pitch isn't Indian and it isn't Kohli who scored the runs so by definition, it cannot be a flat pitch.
 
This is a batsman's pitch, I'll not deny; but it is by no means a 2/416 pitch. If NZ had bowlers who were equipped appropriately for Australian conditions then the score at the end of the day would have been around 4 to 6 wickets down for about 350 runs, or thereabouts. The WACA has always been a batsman's pitch since provided that the batsmen can adjust to the extra pace and bounce, they can thrive, because the ball comes so nicely onto the bat and the outfield is so quick. Most batsmen however can't adjust to the extra pace and bounce, which is why the WACA has an undeserved reputation for being a bowler's wicket - it isn't, it's just that 90% of touring batsmen lack the skills to score runs in Perth.

Since time immemorial, everybody has known that in order to succeed in Australia you need bowlers who can get pace and bounce. Medium pacers who rely on little deviations off the seam and swing through the air at 78mph have never been successful in recent years (or possibly ever), if the likes of Anderson and Philander have failed here then how can you expect Boult and Southee to run through the side?

Also it is ridiculous to expect Australia to prepare greentops. Last time they played on a greentop, more or less the same batting line up were bundled out for 60. It would be suicidal to prepare greentops at home. Which other country would prepare a surface that is kryptonite to their own batsmen at home? Nobody would!

Having said that there is speculation that the final test at Adelaide will be played on a grassy wicket to minimise damage to the pink ball - but I still fully expect Australia to win comfortably there. The bottom line is that New Zealand just aren't very good.
 
Yet you still used the excuse of scoreboard pressure for Australia being unable to draw Tests.

Here is what Michael Clarke said after losing to Pakistan,
First up, Michael Clarke: "They played outstanding cricket in both Tests and we have been outplayed. Unfortunately, all three facets [failed]. It's been the track record of Australian cricket [in Asia] for a long time, unfortunately."
 
I'm sure NZ will reply with some garden lawns of a pitch next year.

It was a flat pitch though the pitch maps posted in another thread did show NZ just bowled too short and on these types of surfaces with the old Kookaburra ball, no lateral movement, its gonna sit up nicely for the batsmen and players like David Warner are gonna hammer you all day long.
 
and when NZ will get out for 350, it will be labelled as pressure of a big total
 
Let Khawaja step overseas. Bambi on ice, etc.
 
It was a minor miracle that all six outta six Lankan tests just gone by produced results.

SL pitches always produce results unless it vs India due to number of views. Most of the time batsmen play spin well so it lasts long, this set of Indian and SL players can't bat vs spin so it ended much earlier.
 
Tbf though even Indian bowlers were not this bad.

NZ had a good chance against an Aussie side reeling from the Ashes loss & retirements.
 
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No pitch is that flat that you give away more than 400 runs in a day. NZ has been exposed badly in these conditions. Even India wasn't this bad last year.
 
we'll see when Australia bowls just how 'little' assistance is in the wicket.

oops. guess we found out.

this type of cricket is far more a snoozefest than the uae matches - at least you know theres a high chance of a result there over five days.

this is just crap.
 
Lol what assistance?
Pitch was made straight outta the Pancake Kitchen in Adelaide.
 
No pitch is that flat that you give away more than 400 runs in a day. NZ has been exposed badly in these conditions. Even India wasn't this bad last year.

Last time SA toured Oz, both teams managed nearly 500 in a day. (in different tests)
 
A ‘fearless’ Dan Christian could be Australia’s specialist finisher at the T20 World Cup, according to Sydney Sixers’ coach, Greg Shipperd.

Christian has been recalled from his county season with Nottinghamshire after being named in Australia’s preliminary 29-player squad ahead of the upcoming limited-overs tours of the West Indies and Bangladesh.

And Shipperd, who has just extended his coaching contract at the Sixers, has backed the allrounder to stake a strong claim for a return to the Australian T20 side.

“T20 is a unique format of the game and he's got a unique skill set, as a strong finisher, through the middle and at the back end with the bat,” said Shipperd.

“He's got the capability of bowling a couple of intelligent phase-specific overs, right across those three phases with the ball, super fieldsman, but also there's a wealth of cricketing strategy and knowledge that resides in that brain and he’s a real giver around any team he's involved with.

“If you're going in for a specific tournament, with a couple of World Cups coming up, then I think he's a strong choice.

In form, being strong, a lot of positives going for him. While the squad will be trimmed before Australia departs next month, it appears unlikely Cricket Australia would fly Christian, along with Ben McDermott (Derbyshire), back from England if he was unlikely to make the final cut.

The 38-year-old has been something of a gun-for-hire in the global arena of T20 competitions, with extraordinarily successful stints in India, Pakistan, the Caribbean, the UK and Bangladesh.

He has been part of nine title-winning teams, including current BBL champions, Shipperd’s Sydney Sixers.Shipperd believes the range of Christian’s experience, combined with his aggressive batting, makes him an ideal candidate for the ‘finisher’ role with the bat.

“I think it is indeed a very specialised role and it's about calmness and clarity in the moment and being fearless,” said Shipperd.

And I guess he's at the stage of his career, you know he's using his experience wisely. And he’s sort of not playing for the next year or the next major contract.

“He plays with this fearless yet experienced mindset that allows him to take the best option that's on the board. It's rare for a player to be miked up as he often does in those phases and he's talking the commentators and the viewers through how he's thinking and what he's doing. As a coach that blows my mind.

“It just shows the poise he has and he's using his experience well. And a lot of other players haven't been in those moments and dealt with that pressure and made the call and succeeded and failed. He balances those, yo-yos that this form of the game can throw at you particularly well.”

While Christian has spent several years as a valued player on the franchise circuit, he hasn’t played a T20 International for Australia since 2017 and has only played a total of 16 T20Is.

But Shipperd feels Christian’s knowledge of a wide range of international players could give Australia a tactical edge when the T20 World Cup, still scheduled - although unlikely - to be played in India, begins in October.

“What he also brings to the team is a wealth of experience and strategy and calm in the moments,” Shipperd said.

“And so in pre-planning for oppositions he's often played against many of those players, been in many of the situations that will confront the team in a tournament situation and so he can provide that calming balance or that exemplary performance that he did for the Sixers on four or five occasions last season.

“He presents such a valuable player for a tournament, and the World Cup is a tournament. I would be pushing and promoting him competing strongly for one of those positions.“Mitch Marsh is going as an option, [Marcus] Stoinis is an option, Sean Abbott's an option, so there's talent vying for that position and it's going to be an incredibly difficult choice.

“But now that he's been called back and I guess he's gonna get some game time in the West Indies [I hope] he gives himself a good chance to consolidate the interest that the Australian selectors have in him for that specific role within a tournament in those conditions.”

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/cri...world-cup-finisher/14xdmmj97far21wlh5twe67trt
 
Have seen him this time in IPL and he seems same average player he has always been.

Aus is far better off picking young all-rounder like Green than old fading player like Christian
 
Even for the hyper-mobile Dan Christian, the recalled Australia allrounder's past few months have resembled the plot of a 'Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego' game.

Cricket’s ultimate journeyman begun his first international campaign in nearly four years with a rollicking knock in an unofficial intra-squad clash on Tuesday (AEST) that suggested he is right in the mix to take on the West Indies in the upcoming five-game T20 series in St Lucia.

His path to St Lucia has been a lot more complex than the other 17 squad mates vying for a berth at this year's T20 World Cup.

Two months after fleeing the Pakistan Super League for the UAE due to a COVID-19 outbreak, Christian then went through the same thing at the Indian Premier League in May, flying with the entire Australian contingent to the Maldives.

Rather than return home, Christian then travelled to Bahrain for a fortnight in order to fulfil his next playing commitment with Nottinghamshire. The United Kingdom at that stage was not accepting arrivals from the Maldives.

It was only after eventually arriving in England to captain the side he led to the previous year’s county T20 title that he was informed of his national selection, and asked to fly back to Australia to quarantine for two weeks so he could join the team bubble before flying out for the series in the Caribbean.

Presuming the squad completes a mooted tour of Bangladesh, he will have been in 10 countries in less than five months, an unheard itinerary during the pandemic.

"It was nice to play a game," Christian told cricket.com.au after blasting 47 off 31 balls in the 22-over-a-side game at the Daren Sammy Cricket Ground.

"I've done a lot of travel of late and missed a lot of cricket with comps getting called off and then getting the call to come here. I've done a lot of training but not actually been on the field.

"To get the call up again as a 38-year old is pretty special, I certainly wasn't going to knock that opportunity back."

Christian's many teammates call him 'Siri' because he knows everything. When it comes to T20 cricket, he has experienced a bit.

The veteran has won a whopping nine domestic T20 titles in a career that has spanned 350 games across six different domestic leagues.

He even once played for the Windward Islands, against Australia in a warm-up match for the 2010 World T20 in the Caribbean, the only time Australia has made the final of the tournament.

With a maiden T20 title still elusive, Australia are crying out for a 'finisher' but despite Christian’s success in recent years in exactly that role, he knows he has considerable competition for a spot at this year's event.

Within an hour or two of Christian's impressive knock on Monday evening in St Lucia, both Mitch Marsh and Ashton Turner played match-winning hands in the run-chase.

The likes of Glenn Maxwell and Marcus Stoinis, both absent from this tour, will then be back in the mix for the World Cup.

"There's a lot of guys – you can throw Moises (Henriques) in that, you throw Stoinis and Maxwell and Daniel Sams as well, we've got a real wealth of talent in that area nowadays," said Christian.

"Whoever gets the gig is probably going to be playing really well at the time and I've got no doubt that they'll do a good job at that World Cup.

"I'd love to (be in the World Cup squad). It's the pinnacle to be playing for your country in any form but World Cups are massive and especially in this format which I've been concentrating on for the last few years.

"It'd be really nice to get another opportunity. But there's a lot of guys playing that similar role. Hopefully I can play well in these next couple of weeks and get on the plane."

Qantas Tour of the West Indies 2021

Australia squad: Aaron Finch (c), Ashton Agar, Wes Agar, Jason Behrendorff, Alex Carey, Dan Christian, Josh Hazlewood, Moises Henriques, Mitchell Marsh, Ben McDermott, Riley Meredith, Josh Philippe, Mitchell Starc, Mitchell Swepson, Ashton Turner, Andrew Tye, Matthew Wade, Adam Zampa. Travelling reserves: Nathan Ellils, Tanveer Sangha.

West Indies T20 squad: Kieron Pollard (c), Nicholas Pooran (vc), Fabian Allen, Dwayne Bravo, Sheldon Cottrell, Fidel Edwards, Andre Fletcher, Chris Gayle, Shimron Hetmyer, Jason Holder, Akeal Hosein, Evin Lewis, Obed McCoy, Andre Russell, Lendl Simmons, Kevin Sinclair, Oshane Thomas, Hayden Walsh Jr

T20 series (all matches at the Daren Sammy Stadium, St Lucia)

First T20: July 10, 9.30am AEST (July 9, 7.30pm local)

Second T20: July 11, 9.30am AEST (July 10, 7.30pm local)

Third T20: July 13, 9.30am AEST (July 12, 7.30pm local)

Fourth T20: July 15, 9.30am AEST (July 14, 7.30pm local)

Fifth T20: July 17, 9.30am AEST (July 16, 7.30pm local)

ODI series (all matches at Kensington Oval, Barbados)

First ODI (D/N): July 21, 4.30am AEST (July 20, 2.30pm local)

Second ODI (D/N): July 23, 4.30am AEST (July 22, 2.30pm local)

Third ODI (D/N): July 25, 4.30am AEST (July 24, 2.30pm local)

* Details of five-match T20 tour of Bangladesh are yet to be announced by the Bangladesh Cricket Board. Tours are subject to agreement on bio-security arrangements and relevant government approvals.
 
Dan Christian is the true World Boss!

Also, interesting first post. I completely agree with Christian, Aussie pitches are absolute flat tracks these days.
 
Daniel Christian blitzkrieg 99(35) against West Indies Champions helped Australia Champions put a mammoth total on the board 274/7 in 20 overs.
 
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