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Darren Lehmann resigns as Head Coach of Australia [Update Post #31]

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Seems to have dodged the bullet but as KP so eloquently put it....

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Seems to have dodged the bullet but as KP so eloquently put it....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lehmann never knew - πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ€₯πŸ€₯πŸ€₯πŸ€₯πŸ€₯πŸ€₯πŸ€₯πŸ€₯πŸ€₯πŸ€₯πŸ€₯πŸ€₯</p>β€” Kevin Pietersen (@KP24) <a href="https://twitter.com/KP24/status/978692309771579394?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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So he doesnt know, however he still sends 12th man out to tell bancroft to hide evidence which is just as bad a crime.
 
Seems to have dodged the bullet but as KP so eloquently put it....

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Not shy when it comes to wading in with his 2 cents on SM, maybe more so now that he's officially retired and got more time on his hands.
 
Well, from what I can recall, nothing happened with his racists comments. In fact he got the national coaching job after that. So no surprising that he would/is getting away with this.

I just do not believe that he did not know. How does a team form a strategy without the coach knowing about it. If they did, then he as a coach has no clue and is incompetent. So either way he should have been fired.
 
Rumours are he was not involved so he will live on.

Want him to go so Langer can come in.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The truth, The full story, Accountability and Leadership- until the public get this Australian cricket is in deep ****!</p>β€” Michael Clarke (@MClarke23) <a href="https://twitter.com/MClarke23/status/978694198693060608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The truth, The full story, Accountability and Leadership- until the public get this Australian cricket is in deep ****!</p>β€” Michael Clarke (@MClarke23) <a href="https://twitter.com/MClarke23/status/978694198693060608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 27, 2018</a></blockquote>
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To put it mildly
 
And what about Saker, the bowling coach, was he involved too? The whole coaching staff should hand in their resignations either for collusion or incompetency reasons.
 
Can't stand the sight of this this filthy liar Lehmann.

Sutherland and him both need to get axed ASAP.

Beyond a joke.
 
Under-fire coach Darren Lehmann will break his silence late tonight on the ball-tampering scandal that has rocked Australian cricket and seen three members of his team sent home.

Lehmann has been cleared of any prior knowledge of the plan hatched by Steve Smith, David Warner and Cameron Bancroft to deliberately alter the condition of the ball in the third Test against South Africa in Cape Town. Those three players have been ruled out of the fourth Test, which starts on Friday, and their full penalties will be revealed in the next 24 hours.

With Cricket Australia's investigation ongoing, Lehmann has so far been unable to address the situation publicly but he is expected to front the media in Johannesburg sometime on Wednesday (local time).

The Australian team will not train on Wednesday, meaning they will have just one day of training - on Thursday - before the fourth Test at The Wanderers gets underway on Friday.

Former Australia captain Allan Border has thrown his support behind Lehmann, labelling him "one of the good guys" who deserves to keep his job given - as CA's investigation has determined - he had no knowledge of the tampering scheme.

"We're talking about one of the good guys in Australian cricket," Border told Fox Sports News.

"He's done a fantastic job with that team and if he wasn't aware of what was going on, there's no problem at all.

"If (CA's) integrity officer has been through and interviewed people and he's satisfied that Darren Lehmann didn't know specifically what was going on at the time, I'm very relaxed.

"That's a good news item, isn't it, not the other way."

Border's comments come as three former Test captains - Michael Clarke, Michael Vaughan and Kevin Pietersen - seemingly questioned the finding that only Smith, Warner and Bancroft were in on the plot to tamper with the ball.

As the tampering scandal unfolded on the field on Saturday, Lehmann was shown speaking via a two-way radio to substitute fielder Peter Handscomb, who then went onto the field to give a message to Cameron Bancroft. There is yet to be an explanation as to the nature of Lehmann's discussion with Handscomb and whether or not it was related to the use of tape on the ball by Bancroft.

In announcing the initial findings of CA's investigation, CEO James Sutherland backed Lehmann to continue as coach until the end of his current contract, which expires next year.

He also dismissed any suggestion that Lehmann has offered to resign, despite a UK media report on Tuesday that alleged the coach would step down.

"No other players or support staff had prior knowledge and this includes Darren Lehmann, who despite inaccurate media reports, has not resigned from his position," Sutherland said.

"He will continue to coach the Australian men’s team under his current contract."

While Lehmann has been cleared in the tampering case, CA has confirmed that an independent review into the general culture of his team will be conducted.

Border conceded that Lehmann's side "is not popular" amongst some in the cricket and wider communities and that the coach needs to "have a long, hard look" at how his team is perceived.

"I think this goes a bit deeper than just straight out ball-tampering," he said.

"The Australian cricket team itself is not a popular cricket team and a lot of their antics on the field have upset a lot of people. And anyone with axe to grind has an opportunity now to stick the knife in.

"Is Darren Lehmann involved in that? Yes he probably is. He has to have a long, hard look at the portrayal of what the Australian cricket team is all about and how it's perceived. He'll have to take stock of all of that.

"He'll be under a lot of pressure as far as that's concerned. But the ball-tampering situation, he didn't know anything about that and he's got things to do going forward."

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/dar...ball-tampering-review-team-culture/2018-03-28
 
Every second he remain coach is a disgrace to Australian sport and Australia as a country.
 
According to my sources , Lehmann sent Handscomb to ask for what he mistook as a chewing gum from Bancroft. Leave the poor Coach alone. He dint know.
 
According to my sources , Lehmann sent Handscomb to ask for what he mistook as a chewing gum from Bancroft. Leave the poor Coach alone. He dint know.

Ohhh wowwwwww. Can you tell me more about your sources?
 
The only reason CA have let Lehmann off the hook is because they can = there isn't definite proof against him.

Pity the rest of us can see between the lines.
 
Every second he remain coach is a disgrace to Australian sport and Australia as a country.



Ditto, he is def involved and was probably one of the ones who came up with the idea to begin with!
 
Lehman doesn't even coach India, yet for some reason I have a strange dislike for the man. He got very lucky here.
 
AUSTRALIAN cricket coach Darren Lehmann has broken his silence on the ball tampering scandal, saying he would β€œlike to apologise to the Australian public” and he was worried about the emotional impact on the three players.

The embattled coach told reporters in South Africa Steve Smith, David Warner and Cameron Bancroft had β€œmade a grave mistake but they are not bad people.”

β€œThese are young men and I hope people will give them a second chance,” he said.

Lehmann said he was β€œembarrassed” and β€œdisappointed" and β€œhurt for the game” and would change his attitude as coach.

On Steve Smith who was sacked as captain, he said β€œthe public love him” and β€œwe’ve lost a great young man who made a mistake.”

He also said he is worried about the trio’s mental state following fallout from the scandal.

β€œThere is a need for us to change the way we play,” he reportedly said, adding that the way the New Zealand team plays is a β€œmodel for the game”.

β€œWe need to work to bring the respect back from the fans.”

It comes after Cricket Australia revealed Warner was the mastermind behind the ball tampering plot, instructing Bancroft on how to carry it out. Smith was also found to have known about the plot and failed to stop it, and been guilty of misleading officials after the event.

Smith and Warner will be banned from the sport for 12 months, while Bancroft will serve a nine month ban. All three are expected to provide 100 hours of service to community cricket and Warner won’t be placed in a leadership position in future.

It comes Cricket Australia boss James Sutherland revealed Lehmann was asking Peter Handscomb β€œwhat the f*** is going on” on a radio chat when Bancroft was caught on camera trying to hide the sandpaper in his pants.

β€œI want to say that he sent a message to say, β€˜What in the hell is going on’. He didn’t use hell, he used another word,” Sutherland said on Wednesday.

β€œThat was found to be through (integrity unity chief) Iain Roy’s investigation. I want to make that point very clearly that Darren made those comments and Iain was satisfied that Darren didn’t know anything about the plan.”

http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricke...l/news-story/6ddcdabfc04f176b64a9a1d3e611faea
 
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SO now it becomes clear what saved Lehmann! The F word.

Johannesburg: Cricket Australia has moved to distance Darren Lehmann from the ball-tampering crisis, saying he had radioed down to substitute Peter Hanscomb to tell him to ask "what the f--- is going on" rather than to tell Cameron Bancroft that he had been sprung with a piece of sandpaper.

There has been intense pressure on the head coach in the wake of the firestorm that has led to hefty suspensions for Steve Smith, David Warner and Cameron Bancroft.

Many found it difficult to believe that Lehmann could not have known about Australia's cheating after vision was shown of him speaking into a walkie-talkie to Handscomb, who was sitting in the players' dugout, just before the back-up batsman came racing out onto the field to speak to Bancroft.

Moments earlier the umpires had become aware that vision had been shown of Bancroft rubbing the ball with a foreign object, which the West Australian then tried to hide down his trousers.

However, Cricket Australia chief executive James Sutherland said on Wednesday that an investigation had concluded that Lehmann had no idea what Bancroft had been up to until he was alerted to the opener's conduct by vision the big screen at Newlands.

"He saw that and he radioed down and he said 'what the f--- is going on?' He said to Handscomb 'Find out what the f--- is going on'," Sutherland said, speaking to reporters at the Australian team's hotel in Johannesburg.

"He brought everyone into the room when the next break was. He basically went through everyone and went 'what is going on?' There are other parts of the investigation that asked lots of questions of lots of people to try and understand that. But in Darren's defence, they were findings that (CA head of integrity) Iain Roy had.

"For Iain it was very important to hear. Darren's reaction to those things was pretty clear."

While he has been cleared by CA of any responsibility for the conspiracy to cheat, Lehmann has been targeted elsewhere for overseeing a team culture that had deteriorated to the point where such reprehensible behaviour was allowed to happen.

That will be a key discussion point of an independent review of the team's culture that has been announced.

"I've got no doubt that he feels some sort of personal responsibility for that," Sutherland said.

"We all do. This is a terrible situation. There are three guys going home that have been offered sanctions that are life-changing. There is a feeling of guilt and questions obviously being asked of lots of people as to why or how that might have happened.

"That's part of the purpose of later discussion and review. We'll clearly take on board whatever comes out of such investigations.

"But further to that I think it's really important that to say this process is about culture and performance and all of that but it's also about the standing of the Australian cricket team and how they engage with the Australian public.

"There is a rebuild that needs to happen to reinstate the faith and the confidence and I guess the pride that the Australian public had and should have in the Australian cricket team."

Asked whether Lehmann's position would come under direct scrutiny as part of the review, Sutherland replied that the process would be "deep and far ranging".

"We're committed to doing something about it," he said.

"We cannot have this happen again. It's just unquestionable and so obvious. If there are things that allow little things to turn into little things to turn into big things that allow this to happen, then you've got to go back to the core and find out what the little things are and address them. That is what we'll be doing."

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricke...t-cleared-darren-lehmann-20180328-p4z6sn.html
 
Warner and Smith probably wanna spill the beans but can’t because they will get into even more trouble :))
 
I am inclined to believe Lehman for one reason:

Cricket Australia stands to gain nothing from saving Lehman. They have implicated 3, could have taken down a 4th as well.

As for fast bowlers, I am staggered they can't tell the condition of the ball is altered - unless ball management (throwing ball on the bounce on the rough, shining one side etc) makes the ball look the same.
 
What if Darren Lehmann really is innocent?

Let's take CA for their word: what if all he did was pick up the walkie talkie to ask Handscomb what was going on? What if he was none the wiser of the plot hatched - allegedly - by Warner, Smith and co.?

Fate has put him in an impossible position where there is no credible way for him to say that he is in the clear without fans reading between the lines when in fact there is nothing to read.

Your thoughts?
 
Highly highly highly unlikely he is innocent.

If he was innocent, wouldn't he have been giving press conferences left, right and centre?

If you are wrongly accused of something, wouldn't you be at the forefront defending yourself?
 
Well, then he has no control of his team and should not be the coach
 
Highly highly highly unlikely he is innocent.

If he was innocent, wouldn't he have been giving press conferences left, right and centre?

If you are wrongly accused of something, wouldn't you be at the forefront defending yourself?

But as unlikely as it seems, there is always a chance he was innocent.

If he really was innocent, imagine his state of mind....poor guy has to deal with people thinking he did it.
 
I honestly believe Lehmann. I thought though he’d be let go whether he knew or not as part of a coach’s job is to control his players.

People vilifying him, Im pretty sure its likely more of smith’s team mates knew than lehmann. Especially the bowlers. Lehmann wasnt on the pitch. Though not sure they should be punished, they were just following the captains orders and not doing the tampering themselves.
 
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We all know the trio were involved however didn't I hear Smith say something about others had knowledge and that " I won't name names". So my question is who else was he talking about .

My gut feeling is Lehman will resign after the SA series .
 
Darren Lehaman has resigned

Press conference right now, he is crying as well. Personally, I find it hard to believe he didn't know


AN EMOTIONAL Darren Lehmann has announced his decision to step down as the coach of the Australian cricket team following the ball tampering scandal.

On an emotional rollercoaster of a night for Australian cricket, Lehmann stated that after watching the press conferences of Steve Smith and Cameron Bancroft, it showed him the time was right.

After being cleared of any wrongdoing from the ball tampering scandal, the news of his resignation comes as a giant shock.

The fourth Test, which gets underway on Friday night, will be his last in charge of the national side.

β€œI’d like to thank all of the players and the support staff who have been fantastic in my five years in the role,” Lehmann said.

β€œWe’ve had a lot of highs along the way and played some really exciting cricket. It’s been a wonderful experience coaching the Australian cricket team.

β€œI hope the rebounds from this and I hope the Australian public find it in their hearts to forgive these young men and get behind the 11 who are going to take the field tomorrow.

As Lehmann wiped away tears, he answered questions from the media in attendance and admitted that telling the players of his decision was the hardest part.
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β€œSaying goodbye to the players was the toughest thing I’ve ever had to do,” Lehmann said.

β€œIt’s about fronting up to your country and playing good cricket for the next five days, its been an unbelievable series, marred by some incidents, and it’s great playing South Africa.

β€œTwo rival countries that play the game incredibly hard, it’s been an exciting Test series.

β€œTo get back and level the series is going to be a big challenge, there’s no doubting that but we’ll do everything we can to make people proud of us.”

Lehmann addressed the ongoing scandal and the drama that Smith, Bancroft and David Warner are currently going through.

β€œThe amount of abuse, or whatever word you want to use, it takes its toll.

β€œEveryone has their views out there, but they made a mistake.

β€œWe need to get the game back on the track.”

The shock decision was also one that Lehmann attributed back to wanting to spend more time with his family.

β€œSpeaking to my family, they’ve had enough of travelling 300 days a year and not being home at all to see your family.

β€œThat’s the big reason, the main reason, just to spend some time with them and the kids. Maybe go and watch my son play some cricket would be quite nice.”

When asked what his proudest achievement was throughout his tenure as the head coach of the national team, Lehmann again fought back tears.

β€œI would say the way we dealt with Philip Hughes’s passing,” he said. β€œWe’re only playing a game,” Lehmann said.

His parting words touched on the magnitude of the issue surrounding his fallen players and what’s to come.

β€œWatching those two young men in the face of the media, I’m sure David will be the same, it’s been unbelievable.

β€œHopefully the game gets back to the game of cricket. It’s a game to be loved and enjoyed and s*** I’ve had a great time in my career.

β€œCoaching the Australian cricket team is a real high and for me I’m looking forward to having some time off and what’s the next step from there, I’d love to stay involved in the game because I love it so much.”

http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricke...l/news-story/9bcd6f7c54b029dc8ae6b1e060884da0
 
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Australian cricket has imploded in the space of one week. I expect some of those guilty players still in South Africa to do the same as Lehmann. Especially those bowlers who allegedly had no involvement in cheating
 
It sort of surreal watching this as a Pakistan fan

This is up their with the biggest Pakistani implosions
 
Lehmann managed to shed his image from this incident.

He didn't got terminated.

He wasn't aware of whatever is happening inside the team.

Atlast, he resigned from his post with a final conclusion that he wasn't aware of the plan.
 
It's surprising that this has just suddenly happened! It's the right thing, he had to go for Australia to move forward. No one was willing to believe he wasn't involved in some manner.
 
It sort of surreal watching this as a Pakistan fan

This is up their with the biggest Pakistani implosions

All we need now is for Sutherland to accuse the South Africans of planting the sandpaper in Bancroft's pocket and it'll even have its own Ijaz Butt.
 
So apparently "What the f*** is going on?" saved Lehmann from getting extensive flak.
 
Can't believe he didn't resign beforehand. Something must've happened behind closed doors. Overall it's an appropriate decision.
 
Well, then he has no control of his team and should not be the coach

This makes him a poor coach, not a cheat. The fact that he resigned from this post means that he has kept his image clean because none of the evidences proved that he was involved.
 
So why cry then?

he was teary from the start, cried more when talking about the abuse, watching Smith cry and missing his family. Got a bit more emtional when they asked him what was his proudest moment, replied handling Phill Hughes's death. Didnt have a complete breakdown like Smith but was pretty close to it.
 
As a Pakistani it feels very odd that we are on the other side of the fence on an issue like this.... generally we are the ones who are in the thick of it :91:



Now I know why people say never a slow day in Pakistan cricket. Must be hard for Aussie fans having their team crumble before their very eyes. People like Smith and Warner won't be easy to replace, heck I think they are a bigger loss than Amir+Asif+Butt.
 
There are decades where nothing happens and weeks where Australia's captain, vice captain and coach lose their jobs.
 
Shocked he is even being allowed to stay for the next match. Has a completely untenable position. But at least he is going.
 
Can't believe he didn't resign beforehand. Something must've happened behind closed doors. Overall it's an appropriate decision.

I told you - he'll resign a little later ............. guy is crying, therefore I shouldn't use any harsh words; but I have to say, guy needed sometime to play his cards properly and secure his future.

I hope unlike other comments in this regard, may be I'll be proven wrong later and my sincere apologies for that.
 
As a Pakistani it feels very odd that we are on the other side of the fence on an issue like this.... generally we are the ones who are in the thick of it :91:



Now I know why people say never a slow day in Pakistan cricket. Must be hard for Aussie fans having their team crumble before their very eyes. People like Smith and Warner won't be easy to replace, heck I think they are a bigger loss than Amir+Asif+Butt.

Am more interested to see how the likes of Starc, Hazelwood and co do without a tampered ball and whether Starc is actually as good as his stats and form show for the last few years.
 
Perhaps he had been informed behind the scenes that after the series is complete they will think about naming a new coach. But, maybe he wanted to leave on his own terms, especially after watching the press conferences of Steve Smith and Bancroft.
 
Bowlers were also in on the sandpaper scheme but luckily got away. I really think ICC should hold umpires accountable as well since it’s their job to keep an eye on the ball condition after each over.
 
Perhaps he had been informed behind the scenes that after the series is complete they will think about naming a new coach. But, maybe he wanted to leave on his own terms, especially after watching the press conferences of Steve Smith and Bancroft.

Lol, I think he was politely told that his position was untenable and that he should do the right thing after the series is over. Also possible he wanted to get away from all this drama.
 
I think he had a lot to do with the behaviour and antics Australia have been getting upto . Better for CA to move on from him.
 
1. Not surprised he resigned, will be interesting to see where he ends up in the Australian cricket set up in the future which might give us some clues as to his negotiating skills with the board.

2. How will the fast bowlers deal with this in the upcoming tests. Will they be just as potent. Intersting times ahead.

Sad day for all cricket fans but swift actions were taken by the Australian Board. That's what I call being professionals.
 
If Lehmann knew about it, then he'd have been an accomplice to cheating. If he did not know then he was incompetent.

Neither scenario was good so this was almost inevitable. Justin Langer has been groomed for a while so I'm guessing he'll take over.

What a dramatic week its been.
 
It sort of surreal watching this as a Pakistan fan

This is up their with the biggest Pakistani implosions

Funniest part is, this is a self-induced implosion.

Could have got away with a simple 1 match ban and fine if Australia didn't overreact.
 
Funniest part is, this is a self-induced implosion.

Could have got away with a simple 1 match ban and fine if Australia didn't overreact.

and the fact that all this seems to have happened because Warner couldn't bear losing due to one comment made about his wife, that too after he was sledging the Saffers non stop

completely self inflicted, mainly due to one idiot
 
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and the fact that all this seems to have happened because Warner couldn't bear losing due to one comment made about his wife, that too after he was sledging the Saffers non stop

completely self inflicted, mainly due to one idiot

Agreed.

Great example for younger players in the spotlight. It's best to keep your emotions in check because things always come back to bite you.
 
Funniest part is, this is a self-induced implosion.

Could have got away with a simple 1 match ban and fine if Australia didn't overreact.
When the captain of your national team confesses to cheating infront of cameras, the uproar is understandable.

CA had to make tough decisions otherwise they would be facing backlash from sponsors and fans. Sacrificing a Smith or Warner is worth saving the millions they stand to lose out on if they didn't take these decisions.
 
Heart breaking what an innocent soul

"From my point of view I just hope the Australian public give it to him right from the word go for the whole summer and I hope he cries and he goes home" - Lehmann on Broad in 2013
"You can have your banter, but they have gone too far here. I think it's been disgraceful," - Lehmann on SA crowd :ashwin
 
He must have lost the players as he seemed set on continuing.
 
Let's take CA for their word: what if all he did was pick up the walkie talkie to ask Handscomb what was going on? What if he was none the wiser of the plot hatched - allegedly - by Warner, Smith and co.?

Fate has put him in an impossible position where there is no credible way for him to say that he is in the clear without fans reading between the lines when in fact there is nothing to read.

Your thoughts?


The way Handcomb was acting: that smile, laugh, body language as a whole etc. when delivering that message to Bancroft, it almost gave the vibe that even Handscomb was in on it along with Lehman!

If you watch that video clip a few time when the two are chatting on the field, it looks very fishy
 
All we need now is for Sutherland to accuse the South Africans of planting the sandpaper in Bancroft's pocket and it'll even have its own Ijaz Butt.



Correction 'Jahaaz Butt' (name coined, trademarked and used by Moi first here on PP when he was the main man ercm Jahaaz)
 
When the captain of your national team confesses to cheating infront of cameras, the uproar is understandable.

CA had to make tough decisions otherwise they would be facing backlash from sponsors and fans. Sacrificing a Smith or Warner is worth saving the millions they stand to lose out on if they didn't take these decisions.

Everything gets better with time.

Warne/Waugh came back from fixing. Warne came back from doping. Ponting came back after beating someone in a nightclub.

Australian fans were ticked off with Warne (after the fixing scandal) and everyone thought it would never get better. Yet, a few years later he became captain (1999 ODI series) with Mark Waugh of all people as Vice Captain! And to this day he is highly respected in Australia.

A ban was necessary but 1 year is completely out of proportion.
 
Cricket Australia StatementOn the speculation around the appointment of a new national men's Head Coach, a Cricket Australia Spokesperson said:

β€œThe process to be undertaken for the appointment of a new Australian men’s head coach will be discussed and agreed at the CA board meeting this Friday. No appointment has been made, and nor will any candidate be put to the board for ratification on Friday. We expect to have a clearer understanding of the approach and appointment timelines following this meeting.”

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Darren Lehmann, the former Australia coach, confirmed that he was in regular touch with the suspended trio of David Warner, Steven Smith and Cameron Bancroft, and said he β€œworries daily” about them.

Warner and Smith were banned by Cricket Australia for a year, and Bancroft was handed a nine-month ban, after the three players were found guilty in the ball-tampering scandal that engulfed Australia in March during their tour of South Africa.

Since then, the players have all accepted the sanctions, with the senior duo of Warner and Smith even opening up about adjusting to life in the aftermath of the controversy.

Things took a turn for the better when Justin Langer, named Lehmann’s successor on Thursday 3 May, stated his desire to welcome back the players at the end of their bans.

Darren Lehmann quit as Australia coach after the tour of South Africa


However, Lehmann, who himself resigned from the role after the tour, hasn't stopped worrying. β€œThey are all good young men, I feel for the three players especially, they’re fantastic and I worry about them day-in, day-out," Lehmann told Radio FIVEaa.

β€œI hope they come back and play for Australia because they’re fantastic young men and they’ve paid the price.

β€œFor me, Australian cricket is the most important thing and hopefully everyone can get back and play the right type of cricket that makes everyone respect and enjoy the Australian cricket team again.”

The incident came under intense scrutiny from the world media in March, with Warner and Smith even breaking down in their first public appearances in the immediate aftermath. They had β€œbeen to hell and back”, said Lehmann.

Steve Smith and David Warner are both serving 12-month bans


β€œIt’s been a tough six weeks for myself, but I put myself in David Warner’s shoes, Cameron Bancroft, Steve Smith … they’ve been to hell and back, haven’t they?

"Hopefully, everyone forgives them. I’m sure they will. They’re bloody good human beings and I love them dearly. I speak to them quite a lot. It’s a case of keeping in contact because I worry about them. They’re going okay."

Lehmann also spoke highly of his successor, and made special mention of the fact that Langer hadn't closed the doors on the trio.

β€œI was really pleased that Justin made mention of those three guys who aren’t playing at the moment because they are, and they’ll continue to be, valuable players for the future of Australian cricket,” he told cricket.com.au. β€œHe didn’t close the door on anyone, and I think that’s an important message.”

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/680440
 
Darren Lehmann: Former Australia head coach set for new role

Former Australia head coach Darren Lehmann, who resigned after the ball-tampering scandal in March, is set for a new role with Cricket Australia.

Lehmann, 48, was cleared of any involvement in ball-tampering on the tour of South Africa.

He will coach the national performance squad from 28 May until October.

"I had a good chat with him and he was really keen to continue his coaching," said national performance program head coach Troy Cooley.

"Darren has already told me he is relishing the opportunity, so it's win-win all round.

"To have someone who's got that experience matching up with our coaching staff, it's invaluable," he told cricket.com.au.

Lehmann will work alongside former Australia batsman Chris Rogers and ex-seamer Ryan Harris.

Lehmann, who played 27 Tests and 117 one-day internationals for Australia, was appointed head coach in 2013.

He oversaw two Ashes series victories over England and a 2015 World Cup triumph on home soil.

Captain Steve Smith and vice-captain David Warner were sacked and banned for a year for their part in the ball-tampering controversy, while batsman Cameron Bancroft was suspended for nine months.

Justin Langer, who was last week named as Lehmann's successor, will oversee Australia's limited-overs tour of England in June.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/44051853
 
As the national men's team continues to develop their new identity under Justin Langer and Tim Paine, former coach Darren Lehmann says his players played within the spirit of the game during his tenure at the helm.

Australia's attitude came under fire following the events of the catastrophic Newlands Test, which has led to a thorough investigation into the culture of the national men's team, a new head coach in Langer, and new skipper in Paine, who has since captained a muted troop compared to the animated team run by the suspended Steve Smith and Lehmann.

At his announcement as Lehmann's successor, Langer said Australia will continue to engage in banter with the opposition and play the 'Australian way', a brand of tough cricket that respects the players and history of the game.

But in a rare interview since the fallout of the tumultuous South Africa tour, Lehmann said the Australians under his watch were not as bad as the media depicted, and that the banter on the field was considerably worse in his playing days.
When asked if he would change anything in regard to the way the spirit of the game was played by his charges over the past five years, Lehmann said "No".

"There was a lot of talk about the Australian team being over-aggressive and there were some incidents in some games that they probably pushed it too far," Lehmann told Macquarie Sports Radio, the broadcaster for whom he will commentate this summer.

"But the 'Australian way', I think Justin Langer summed it up really well – a bit of banter on the field is good and playing that way.

"They got dealt with accordingly from the ICC and match referee when they crossed that line but the Australians play that way in essence a lot of the time.

"You want to promote the game fairly and play hard but fair on the field.

"When I played, there was a lot worse sledging going on in those days and years before.
"They're not as bad as portrayed in the media."

Lehmann stood down on the eve of the fourth Test in Johannesburg after captain Smith, deputy David Warner and rookie opener Cameron Bancroft were suspended for their involvement in attempting to alter the condition of the ball with sandpaper in Cape Town.

Prior to his resignation, Lehmann said Australia could look to a team like New Zealand for a blueprint on how to play the game competitively and in the right spirit.

But the 48-year-old said there is a balance that must be found by the new leaders in the Australian team.
"It (playing like NZ) will certainly help win the fans back over, and that's important because we want kids playing the great game of cricket," Lehmann said.

"But you also need to win, win a certain way.

"That's a fine balance, because as Australians we want to see the Australian cricket team winning – I do, I'm a fan now sitting on this side. I want to see them win, play well, play fair.

"Yes, have some fun and play with a smile on your face but you've still got to have that right balance and that's the real tricky art Justin and Tim are going to face this summer."

While the Test team will be without run machines Smith and Warner for the home series against India and Sri Lanka this summer, Lehmann says the depth in Australian cricket and the familiar conditions will hold his former charges in good stead.

"We're going to be OK," he said.

"Obviously, Warner and Smith are great players, they've made a lot of runs for Australia over their careers, and Bancroft was starting to come good in the last series.

"You're going to miss those players and when they're back they're certainly going to have an effect on the team and results because they'll play well.

"But our depth, it just gives another player an opportunity, a young kid coming through.

"The bowling is never going to be an issue. When you've got (Mitchell) Starc, (Josh) Hazlewood, (Pat) Cummins, (Nathan) Lyon, (James) Pattinson, you're 20 wickets aren't going to be an issue.

"And that's the first thing you need for Test match cricket.

"You've just got to keep them (fast bowlers) on the park fit and playing.

"And runs in Australia, I think we'll bat quite well in Australia.

"A lot of people are writing us off in Australia. I'm not.

"I think we'll bat OK. The conditions suit the way we play and bat and the young guys will stand up."


https://www.cricket.com.au/news/dar...ampering-langer-paine-smith-warner/2018-08-02
 
As the national men's team continues to develop their new identity under Justin Langer and Tim Paine, former coach Darren Lehmann says his players played within the spirit of the game during his tenure at the helm.

Australia's attitude came under fire following the events of the catastrophic Newlands Test, which has led to a thorough investigation into the culture of the national men's team, a new head coach in Langer, and new skipper in Paine, who has since captained a muted troop compared to the animated team run by the suspended Steve Smith and Lehmann.

At his announcement as Lehmann's successor, Langer said Australia will continue to engage in banter with the opposition and play the 'Australian way', a brand of tough cricket that respects the players and history of the game.

But in a rare interview since the fallout of the tumultuous South Africa tour, Lehmann said the Australians under his watch were not as bad as the media depicted, and that the banter on the field was considerably worse in his playing days.
When asked if he would change anything in regard to the way the spirit of the game was played by his charges over the past five years, Lehmann said "No".

"There was a lot of talk about the Australian team being over-aggressive and there were some incidents in some games that they probably pushed it too far," Lehmann told Macquarie Sports Radio, the broadcaster for whom he will commentate this summer.

"But the 'Australian way', I think Justin Langer summed it up really well – a bit of banter on the field is good and playing that way.

"They got dealt with accordingly from the ICC and match referee when they crossed that line but the Australians play that way in essence a lot of the time.

"You want to promote the game fairly and play hard but fair on the field.

"When I played, there was a lot worse sledging going on in those days and years before.
"They're not as bad as portrayed in the media."

Lehmann stood down on the eve of the fourth Test in Johannesburg after captain Smith, deputy David Warner and rookie opener Cameron Bancroft were suspended for their involvement in attempting to alter the condition of the ball with sandpaper in Cape Town.

Prior to his resignation, Lehmann said Australia could look to a team like New Zealand for a blueprint on how to play the game competitively and in the right spirit.

But the 48-year-old said there is a balance that must be found by the new leaders in the Australian team.
"It (playing like NZ) will certainly help win the fans back over, and that's important because we want kids playing the great game of cricket," Lehmann said.

"But you also need to win, win a certain way.

"That's a fine balance, because as Australians we want to see the Australian cricket team winning – I do, I'm a fan now sitting on this side. I want to see them win, play well, play fair.

"Yes, have some fun and play with a smile on your face but you've still got to have that right balance and that's the real tricky art Justin and Tim are going to face this summer."

While the Test team will be without run machines Smith and Warner for the home series against India and Sri Lanka this summer, Lehmann says the depth in Australian cricket and the familiar conditions will hold his former charges in good stead.

"We're going to be OK," he said.

"Obviously, Warner and Smith are great players, they've made a lot of runs for Australia over their careers, and Bancroft was starting to come good in the last series.

"You're going to miss those players and when they're back they're certainly going to have an effect on the team and results because they'll play well.

"But our depth, it just gives another player an opportunity, a young kid coming through.

"The bowling is never going to be an issue. When you've got (Mitchell) Starc, (Josh) Hazlewood, (Pat) Cummins, (Nathan) Lyon, (James) Pattinson, you're 20 wickets aren't going to be an issue.

"And that's the first thing you need for Test match cricket.

"You've just got to keep them (fast bowlers) on the park fit and playing.

"And runs in Australia, I think we'll bat quite well in Australia.

"A lot of people are writing us off in Australia. I'm not.

"I think we'll bat OK. The conditions suit the way we play and bat and the young guys will stand up."


https://www.cricket.com.au/news/dar...ampering-langer-paine-smith-warner/2018-08-02

Sounds like a guy who has no idea what's going around, a bit like president mamnoon hussain. :P
 
https://www.cricketcountry.com/news...ig-bash-league-franchise-brisbane-heat-811409

Darren Lehmann is set to return to coaching for the first time since the ball-tampering incident after he was announced as the coach of Big Bash League (BBL) franchise Brisbane Heat on Wednesday.

According to a report in the Daily Telegraph, Lehmann, who quit as Australian coach in the aftermath of the incident that saw Steve Smith and David Warner being handed 12-month suspensions, while Cameron Bancroft escape with a nine-month ban, has got the top job at Brisbane Heat, edging out Queensland coach Wade Seccombe.

Lehmann has been busy doing radio commentary for Fox Cricket and Macquarie Sports Radio this summer and will take over the reins from former New Zealand captain Daniel Vettori, who quit his post at the end of Big Bash League this season. (ALSO READ: Steve Smith should have had more control over the ball-tampering scandal: Darren Lehmann)

Lehmann had earlier coached Brisbane Heat in 2012-13 season. They won the title that year after causing an upset in the final against Perth Scorchers at the WACA Ground.
 
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