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"David Warner is the best opening batsman in the world" : Shane Warne

Australian pitches are flat and they play 5 tests vs England. No reason why a FTB like Warner can't get 750 runs in a total of 5 tests.

I think he got some 400 runs in 2 tests vs NZ.

Cook is definitely a better test batsmen no doubt.


Point is he hasn't had a series like that away from home.

That was a home series surely?

Yes cook is a better test bat I agree.
 
Point is he hasn't had a series like that away from home.

That was a home series surely?

Yes cook is a better test bat I agree.

The one in which Cook scored was away Ashes series but the Aussies bowling attack was probably the weakest led by Hilfenhaus and Siddle.

In 2013 when Eng toured Aus again, Cook, KP, Bell and Root all struggled and were averaging in 20s.

Btw Warner has won a test series for his team in South Africa in 2014 against a strong SA side. He was the leading run scorer in that series.
 
The one in which Cook scored was away Ashes series but the Aussies bowling attack was probably the weakest led by Hilfenhaus and Siddle.

In 2013 when Eng toured Aus again, Cook, KP, Bell and Root all struggled and were averaging in 20s.

Btw Warner has won a test series for his team in South Africa in 2014 against a strong SA side. He was the leading run scorer in that series.

Cook can't control which Aussie bowlers are playing all he can do is score the runs against them.

I can't question Warner record and ability in South Africa/Australia but his record in other countries when it comes to getting big scores is very poor.
 
Amla is easily the best opening batsman in the world - he scores in all formats and all pitches.Why is he so underrated ?
 
Cook is miles ahead of Warner in Tests. It is not even a comparison.

The former has proven himself in all conditions while the latter has failed in majority of countries. People talk about his runs tally in England in the last Ashes but his failure to occupy the crease for long periods of time was a major reason why Australia lost 3 Tests, and he looked awful in Sri Lanka.

He is one dimensional in Test cricket and fails to adapt to the match situation. In ODIs, no doubt he's brilliant but there are several brilliant openers.

The problem with Warne is that he rates a player simply based on his personal likes and dislikes.
 
Amla is easily the best opening batsman in the world - he scores in all formats and all pitches.Why is he so underrated ?

Because of his poor record in world cups. He is an ATG in tests but in ODIs, he is just a good opener because he has never performed in world cups.
 
Quinton De Kock is also right up there as far as openers are concerned
 
Distant second in Tests, Joint best in ODIs, not interested in T20s.

Yes he has a strong claim at the best opener across all formats title.
 
Distant second in Tests, Joint best in ODIs, not interested in T20s.

Yes he has a strong claim at the best opener across all formats title.

Who is the best in test? and who is he joint with..
 
What about Rohit in ODIs?

Him and Guptill too, and I think Hales and Roy can potentially get there as well, but I actually don't remember the last time Rohit did something susbantial.
 
Him and Guptill too, and I think Hales and Roy can potentially get there as well, but I actually don't remember the last time Rohit did something susbantial.

India hasn't played many ODIs recently. He scored two hundreds and a 99 earlier this year in Australia though.
 
Warner has played two very solid knocks recently in ODIs. Overall, he is the best in both formats.
 
It's funny that some people here think that Sharjeel will play an innings similar to Warner's when we bat.
 
It's funny that some people here think that Sharjeel will play an innings similar to Warner's when we bat.

One only has to see the difference between the pace attacks to see that's not gonna happen.

Only chance is for Younis Khan and Misbah to block all the pacers and score runs from the 2 spinners.
 
Warner is definitely best of all currently. He seems like Sehwag to me.
 
Meh, flat wicket and Pakistani bowling, it doesn't get easier for the most dangerous player in the world like Warner. Watch him fail in India, like he did in Sri Lanka or vs South Africa at home when the conditions demanded more application.

No doubt the number one opener today across all formats, but he is not my cup of tea in Tests regardless of how brilliant he is on wickets without lateral movement and 125 kph half-trackers to feast on.

Perhaps I am old fashioned in this regard, but he sets the wrong precedence as a Test opener.
 
Yes, he is no doubt.

It would be fair if we accept that he is the Virender Sehwag of the current era.

Both are supreme FTBs and among those who can destroy the opposition in a matter of time.

Warner was Australia's standout performer in series win in SA and can score runs at a rate as fast as anyone in the world.

In odis, he is the best odi opener going around and perhaps the second best odi batsmen on current form only behind Kohli as AB is currently out of scenes for the last 7 months.

In tests, he is not way behind Cook who himself struggled in toughest conditions and against quality pacers.

Warner is a big match winner unlike Cook whose last superlative series was way back in India in 2012.

With Warner in the team, you know he is not going to let Asian, Kiwis or Windies Pacers get settled in the Australian conditions and put them on backfoot with 350 runs on first day of the game.
 
In previous years I would have rated Cook as the strongest all-round opening batsman in Tests, however I think Warner has now surpassed him on the basis of sheer impact. He is clearly a very difficult player to bowl to in Australian conditions and is scoring match-winning hundreds for fun at the moment.

The 'he can't play 200 balls' argument is nonsensical in my opinion - it's what you do with your time at the crease that matters, it's about how much value that you add whilst you're in.

For me Warner needs to start scoring important runs in less familiar conditions to really cement himself as a great opener, however he is at the top of the list for a World XI at the moment no doubt.
 
Let him be tested in India against Ashwin before concluding he is best.

Kohli hasn't done jack in England and still Indians consider him the best. And no don't bring up his stats in aus because any decent bat can score in flat aus pitches
 
Meh, flat wicket and Pakistani bowling, it doesn't get easier for the most dangerous player in the world like Warner. Watch him fail in India, like he did in Sri Lanka or vs South Africa at home when the conditions demanded more application.

No doubt the number one opener today across all formats, but he is not my cup of tea in Tests regardless of how brilliant he is on wickets without lateral movement and 125 kph half-trackers to feast on.

Perhaps I am old fashioned in this regard, but he sets the wrong precedence as a Test opener.

or when he failed in the UAE.
 
Is David Warner the best opener in the world at the moment?

Seeing as to how Hashim Amla is in decline in all formats, is it safe to say Warner is now the best opening batsman in the world (all formats)? :warner
 
No, but he's batting superbly at home this summer.

I don't see how one great summer at home suddenly puts him ahead of Ab de Villiers and Kohli, who along with Viv make up the 3 best ODI batsmen of all time.

This is what you call knee-jerking.

Edit: apologies misread the title, thought it was ODIs.

Opening across all formats, Warner is certainly the best currently
 
I will take Warner in Odis over Amla any day, De kock and warner opening in odis will be carnage.
 
Any day, any time, any conditions as simple as that. One can argue FTB n blah blah the guy have the power and heart to make runs.. sight to watch..
 
Warner playing a mature innings at Melbourne, currently on 50 off 168 balls. His slowest fifty in Test cricket coming at an important time for Australia.
 
Fakhar Zaman score 114 in the finals of Champions Trophy.

He is the best opener on this planet hands down. No one can challenge his position until the 2019 World Cup Final
 
If the ball is not swinging, seaming, turning and if the pitch does not have variable bounce, then Warner is undoubtedly the best Test opener in the game today.
 
If the ball is not swinging, seaming, turning and if the pitch does not have variable bounce, then Warner is undoubtedly the best Test opener in the game today.

SA pitches generally have variable bounce with swing and seam initially and Warner scored mountains of runs there.
 
SA pitches generally have variable bounce with swing and seam initially and Warner scored mountains of runs there.

Generally yes, but not in that particular series. If I recall correctly, Australia got blue skies in all three Tests without much conventional swing. There was also ball tampering controversy on South Africa's part because the ball was not doing much.

The conditions were quite Australia-like in that series, and the South African pacers were largely negated.

Obviously Warner deserves a lot of credit. His aggressive stroke-play set the cat among the pigeons. Nonetheless, a lot of factors have to align for Warner to score runs.
 
If the ball is not swinging, seaming, turning and if the pitch does not have variable bounce, then Warner is undoubtedly the best Test opener in the game today.

Disagree slightly. He scored centuries on two vicious turners in Bangladesh recently against a fairly decent spin attack. I agree that he's susceptible to the swinging ball, but no more so than anyone else in that Australian side. By the by, I really don't think there's a better opener in the game currently. The only other consistent opening batsman I see is Dean Elgar but even he has a lot to prove when the ball is turning.
 
If the ball is not swinging, seaming, turning and if the pitch does not have variable bounce, then Warner is undoubtedly the best Test opener in the game today.
Scored 2 100s vs ban recently. His play has improved against spin
Scored 123 vs nz at hobart. ATG innings that but no 11 couldnt hung around.
Scored 90 odd vs sa on a swinging pitch
 
Warner's performance in India is one of the reasons why Australia didn't come up with a series victory there. Only if Warner would have given that one game changing performance, Australia could have ended up a series 2-1 on their side.

He was pretty dismal in that tour and I dont really know how to take his performance in Bangladesh into consideration.

He is a kind of player who when in zone can produce a great knock even if the pitch has assistance for bowlers but is really destructive on flat pitches.
 
There aren't many great test openers out there other than cook and Warner so I would go for Warner in recent times but cook overall.
 
Flat pitch, No swing, No seam, No spin, 125-130Km trundlers then yes Warner is best in the world, otherwise he is walking wicket like he have been all his career in Asia.

Big bats and flat pitches have inflated his stats. One of the bigget FTBs of recent times.

M Vijay, A Cook, D Elgar are much better than this FTB.
 
Disagree slightly. He scored centuries on two vicious turners in Bangladesh recently against a fairly decent spin attack. I agree that he's susceptible to the swinging ball, but no more so than anyone else in that Australian side. By the by, I really don't think there's a better opener in the game currently. The only other consistent opening batsman I see is Dean Elgar but even he has a lot to prove when the ball is turning.

Scored 2 100s vs ban recently. His play has improved against spin
Scored 123 vs nz at hobart. ATG innings that but no 11 couldnt hung around.
Scored 90 odd vs sa on a swinging pitch

He has played a big role in some high-profile away series defeats. He scored runs in England, but his inability to occupy the crease for longer periods of time (don't think he managed to last for more than a session) was a major reason why the Australian batting collapsed multiple times.

He was absolutely rubbish in India and Sri Lanka, and although the UAE series was Pakistan was insignificant, he failed in 3 out of 4 innings.

He did redeem himself a bit in Bangladesh, but he still has a long way to go before he proves himself as an all-condition opener in Test cricket. ATG material in ODIs though.
 
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