"Despite UN resolution on J&K, the country has been invaded and occupied" : Dr. Mahatir Mohamad

[Mian]

"Despite UN resolution on J&K, the country has been invaded and occupied" : Dr. Mahatir Mohamad

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There may be reasons for this action but it is still wrong. The problem must be solved by peaceful means. India should work with Pakistan to resolve this problem. Ignoring the UN would lead to other forms of disregard for the UN and the Rule of Law. <a href="https://t.co/QOQtIkPTC1">pic.twitter.com/QOQtIkPTC1</a></p>— Dr Mahathir Mohamad (@chedetofficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/chedetofficial/status/1177888214155182080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Lonewarrior]

but but but kashmir is our internal matter .....

 

[Mian]

but but but kashmir is our internal matter .....

Is there any Cyprus near Malaysia? to settle score!

 

[Lonewarrior]

Is there any Cyprus near Malaysia? to settle score!

Modi and india media is looking into the world map right now...

 

[MenInG]

Some strong words from Malaysia - lets see Indian reaction

 

[Slog]

A man as respectable as Mahathir also said this

 

[szrana007]

Erdogan, Mahathir and IK, three great leaders of Muslim world. Only if GCC leaders had any shame.

 

[blackanhyellow]

Recently Malaysia announced that they are increasing imports from India.

And despite the existing 10 + billion dollars in trade, a direct and forceful statement has been made.

The longer the curfew goes on, the harder it will be for India to push the narrative of an internal matter.

People who had never heard of Kashmir before now know about it.

Not saying this is going to solve anything though. Israel still holding on to Palestine and continues to build illegal settlements, Russia still holds crimea, etc...

But at the same time, it is not insignificant that India is being seen for what it is, slowly but surely, as a regional bully ruled by fascists. The narrative that India is a secular democracy will soon fade.

 

[IndianHero]

First clause of UN resolution is pakistan removal of its forces which it didn't do & hence no need to follow such resolutions.

Still there is no pressure on BJP as both opposition & IK govt are in a weak position to challenge them

 

[GBK_Fan]

A man as respectable as Mahathir also said this

You have to got to be kidding me. Aren’t you in the states? Did you miss his anti Semitic interview?

 

[Lonewarrior]

First clause of UN resolution is pakistan removal of its forces which it didn't do & hence no need to follow such resolutions.

Still there is no pressure on BJP as both opposition & IK govt are in a weak position to challenge them

United Nations Security Council Resolution 80

The resolution called for (1) simultaneous and progressive demilitarisation by both India and Pakistan to the point where the remaining force would "not cause fear at any point of time to the people on either side of cease-fire line."[1] (2) The northern areas to be administered by local authorities, subjected to UN supervision (3) The Council to appoint a United Nations Representative to assist in the preparations and implementation of the demilitarization program, to advise the Governments of India and Pakistan as well as those of the Council, to exercise all of the power and responsibilities of the United Nations Commission for India and Pakistan, to arrange for the Plebiscite Administrator to assume all the functions assigned to him at the appropriate stage of demilitarization and to report to the Council as he saw necessary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_80

 

[SakunaPataka]

United Nations Security Council Resolution 80



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_80

From that link:

The resolution 80 marked a shift from the resolution 47 which called for Pakistan to withdraw first. Resolution 80 asked India and Pakistan to withdraw their troops simultaneously for the purpose of plebiscite. This attempt at equality did not find India's agreement.[2] However, the UN representative, Owen Dixon, tasked with overseeing the demilitarization, proposed that Pakistani forces withdraw first and after a significant number of days the Indian forces. This proposal was accepted by the Pakistani PM.[3]

so when is Pakistan withdrawing its army?

 

[SamNJ]

First Zakir Naik and now this Malaysia showing m. finger to India.
One of the reasons for all this is that Mahathir has formed the govt with Democratic Action Party (dominated by Chinese and Hindus) so he cannot afford to look more secular now as opposition can exploit that among 70 pc of Malay Muslim population.

 

[IndianHero]

United Nations Security Council Resolution 80



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_80

United Nations Security Council Resolution 80



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_80

Sir you quoted a wrong resolution ! The first resolution from UN immediately after conflict is resolution 47
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_47

Even in this resolution pakistan was supposed to withdraw its army first , this is wat I was referring to ! As in even in resolution 80 it is pakistan which was supposed to withdraw first.

They didn't withdraw it coz they knew it if they withdraw entire kashmir will vote for India in those days as it was governed by Sheik Abdullah (who is pro-India)

Remember none of the resolutions have an option for independent kashmir , they have option for either India or Pakistan.

 

[Suleiman]

Malaysia is the true melting pot of different cultures, beliefs and backgrounds. One of the most peaceful countries I’ve lived in, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, Christians and whoever else co exist without any issues, everybody is jolly and carefree and hospitable.

So there is weight in his statement. You can’t play the “but but your own country does xyz and is harboring unicorn death squads” on Mahathir.

 

[IndianHero]

Malaysia has the history of destroying hindu temples in the name of licensing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_in_Malaysia#Destruction_of_Hindu_temples

It has history of many voilent hindu vs muslim conflicts ! They should be the last ones to lecture India lol..

 

[Hornbill]

Malaysia has the history of destroying hindu temples in the name of licensing

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism_in_Malaysia#Destruction_of_Hindu_temples

It has history of many voilent hindu vs muslim conflicts ! They should be the last ones to lecture India lol..

Forget hindus just search how they treat shia muslims

 

[Hornbill]

Mahathir Mohamad says can't provoke Beijing on South China Sea, Uighur issue

(Reuters) - Malaysia does not want to take a confrontational stance toward China over the disputed South China Sea and Beijing's alleged mistreatment of its minority Uighur Muslims, Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said in an interview published on Saturday.

Malaysia is too small to face up to the Asian powerhouse, even though Chinese ships surveying its waters for oil and gas in South China Sea do so without permission, he told an online news service during a visit to New York this week.

"We watch what they are doing, we report what they are doing, but we do not chase them away or try to be aggressive," Mahathir told BenarNews here

"The Malay states have existed near China for the past 2,000 years. We have survived because we know how to conduct ourselves. We don’t go around trying to be aggressive when we don’t have the capacity, so we use other means."

He said that in the past Malaysia used to send to China "gold and silver flowers every year as a symbol of our being practically, well, subservient to them".

This month, China and Malaysia agreed to set up a joint dialogue mechanism for the South China Sea, as ties between the countries improve. China is Malaysia's biggest trading partner.

Chinese President Xi Jinping has been overseeing a sweeping plan to refurbish its army as the country ramps up its presence in the South China Sea and around self-ruled Taiwan, rattling nerves around the region and in Washington.

Mahathir also said China's might was the reason Muslim-majority Malaysia did not speak out much against Beijing's alleged repression of Uighur Muslims.

"You don’t just try and do something which would fail anyway, so it is better to find some other less violent ways not to antagonize China too much, because China is beneficial for us," he said.

"Of course it’s is a big trading partner of ours and you do not want to do something that will fail, and in the process, also, we will suffer."

The United Nations says at least 1 million ethnic Uighurs and other Muslims have been detained in what China describes as "vocational training centers" to stamp out extremism and give people new skills.

The 94-year-old leader also said Malaysia's police was trying to ascertain if fugitive financier Low Taek Jho was in China. Investigators have named Low, better known as Jho Low, as a key figure in the scandal at 1Malaysia Development Bhd (1MDB), which U.S. and Malaysian prosecutors say was used to siphon out hundreds of millions of dollars.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1WD0BY

 

[Napa]

Quite the coward Mahatir Mohamad. There is no need to fight a larger nation, but is is cowardly to openly advertise subservience.

 

[Itachi]

Erdogan, Mahathir and IK, three great leaders of Muslim world. Only if GCC leaders had any shame.

"You don’t just try and do something which would fail anyway, so it is better to find some other less violent ways not to antagonize China too much, because China is beneficial for us," - mahathir

Extraordinary leader I must say.

 

[IndianHero]

"You don’t just try and do something which would fail anyway, so it is better to find some other less violent ways not to antagonize China too much, because China is beneficial for us," he said."



lol this is the reason on why world doesn't listen to countries like pakistan & malaysia ! IK has no moral right to ask the world on y they r turning blind eye on kashmir when he himself does it on uighur muslims

 

[Thomaskutty]

The world community has a high bar for India since its the largest democracy in the world and you can discuss these issues about her without any fear of vindictiveness whereas countries like China, Pakistan and others without any functioning civil society or independent press are unable discuss matters of human rights violations within their countries.
It is just how the world works.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Malaysia is the true melting pot of different cultures, beliefs and backgrounds. One of the most peaceful countries I’ve lived in, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, Christians and whoever else co exist without any issues, everybody is jolly and carefree and hospitable.

So there is weight in his statement. You can’t play the “but but your own country does xyz and is harboring unicorn death squads” on Mahathir.

Minorities have a tough time.Tamils are persecuted, especially the Hindus among them. I have relatives in Malaysia and things aren't as smooth as they may seem to you. Tamils aren't a recent group of immigrants there either, but still there is distrust. Old temples are demolished without valid reasons, Tamil cultural activities are prohibited, violence is common, locals extort the more successful businessmen, children are bullied and abused in school. It is always easy to say that a minority group is well off when you are in majority, majoritarian privilege. Only a minority can speak for his/her community because the other side no matter how sympathetic tends to look at the world from its privileged prism. It applies to all of us, neither can you claim to speak on behalf of Pakistani Hindus/Christians nor can I speak on behalf of minorities and Dalits in India.

Malaysia is still better for minorities than almost every other Muslim country in South Asia and the Gulf, also many non-Muslim ones. But when it comes to true melting pot, nothing to beat the West.

 

[Jin Chacha]

I love this logic of downplaying the importance of any statement that criticizes India.

If Turkey says something, it is hypocritical because of Cyprus/Armenia, if Pakistan says something it is hypocritical because of Bangladesh, if Malaysia says something it is hypocritical because of its alleged treatment of minorities. All middle eastern countries don’t matter because they are monarchies unlike the largest democracy in the world and hence not credible. China can’t say anything because of Uighurs. If tomorrow US or Britain criticize India people will be quick to point out their colonial past or actions against native/african-Americans.

Basically, criticism of India is only valid if it is coming from an angel or prophet with a completely spotless past and present because there is certainly no mortal entity that can satisfy this criterion of integrity.

Meanwhile, India can criticize anyone because it has absolutely no skeletons in its closet.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

"You don’t just try and do something which would fail anyway, so it is better to find some other less violent ways not to antagonize China too much, because China is beneficial for us," - mahathir

Extraordinary leader I must say.

This is actually the key to soft power which Indian members like to boast is their aim. If India could similarly be beneficial for their neighbours then perhaps they would find criticism of their human rights abuses more muted.

 

[cricketjoshila]

So this is the reason of Malaysian PM's sudden outcry.

https://www.thehindubusinessline.co...le29339041.ece/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


India had raised the duty on Malaysian Palm oil to 50% on September 05 2019.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

So this is the reason of Malaysian PM's sudden outcry.

https://www.thehindubusinessline.co...le29339041.ece/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


India had raised the duty on Malaysian Palm oil to 50% on September 05 2019.

More examples of India's attempts at soft power.

 

[Mamoon]

It appears that Mahathir has gone senile. He needs to educate himself by reading the UN Resolution 1947 and ask his favorite pupil Imran Khan why Pakistan has refused to fulfill the first point and ensured that the resolution is not promulgated.

This is where Pakistan gets cornered. If they really care for the plebiscite in J&K, what has stopped it from respecting the resolution provided by the UN?

 

[kk1992]

I love this logic of downplaying the importance of any statement that criticizes India.

If Turkey says something, it is hypocritical because of Cyprus/Armenia, if Pakistan says something it is hypocritical because of Bangladesh, if Malaysia says something it is hypocritical because of its alleged treatment of minorities. All middle eastern countries don’t matter because they are monarchies unlike the largest democracy in the world and hence not credible. China can’t say anything because of Uighurs. If tomorrow US or Britain criticize India people will be quick to point out their colonial past or actions against native/african-Americans.

Basically, criticism of India is only valid if it is coming from an angel or prophet with a completely spotless past and present because there is certainly no mortal entity that can satisfy this criterion of integrity.

Meanwhile, India can criticize anyone because it has absolutely no skeletons in its closet.

It is for domestic Indian and International Indian and since most Indian believe anything that their media and racist politician spit out, it is very easy to fool the masses of India.

 

[kk1992]

Fun fact:

Mahatir is senile.

IK is incompetent.

Before Asad Umar Zindabad, After, IK is incompetent to have Asad Umar.

NS is corrupt but competent.

countless other examples.

Enjoy it folks. LOL

 

[troodon]

India must be shivering at the harsh words of Malaysia.

 

[Pakistanian]

From that link:



so when is Pakistan withdrawing its army?

That seems to be a recent edit cause I remember sharing that link a few weeks ago and that part wasn't there lmaooo. Cyber hindus are so desperate.

 

[Pakistanian]

It appears that Mahathir has gone senile. He needs to educate himself by reading the UN Resolution 1947 and ask his favorite pupil Imran Khan why Pakistan has refused to fulfill the first point and ensured that the resolution is not promulgated.

This is where Pakistan gets cornered. If they really care for the plebiscite in J&K, what has stopped it from respecting the resolution provided by the UN?

UN resolution 80 trumped Res 47. The withdrawal has to be simultaneous from both sides. Resolution 80 was PASSED by the security, India doesn't have the right to veto it.

 

[Rana]

Some strong words from Malaysia - lets see Indian reaction

Check Indian forums. They are already suggesting alternative tourist destinations for Indians besides Turkey and Malaysia.

Their reply to every kind of criticism is to stop any money going into the pockets of their criticisers.

 

[Mamoon]

UN resolution 80 trumped Res 47. The withdrawal has to be simultaneous from both sides. Resolution 80 was PASSED by the security, India doesn't have the right to veto it.

India refuse to agree to the revised resolution. However, Pakistan agreed to the 47 Resolution but then back-tracked later.

Pakistan should have done in 1948 what India did in 1950 - refuse to agree instead of back-tracking later.

Pakistan is guilty of violating the resolution and not playing its part. India is only guilty of refusing to sign on the revised resolution, and thus, is not guilty of breaking an agreement.

 

[Syed1]

Typical Indian response: Malaysia is poor bhikari country wait till we show them our economic might and stop all economic relations.

In other news:

Malaysia per capita income - $29,000

India per capita income - $7,000

(On PPP basis)

 

[szrana007]

Typical Indian response: Malaysia is poor bhikari country wait till we show them our economic might and stop all economic relations.

In other news:

Malaysia per capita income - $29,000

India per capita income - $7,000

(On PPP basis)

lol, they say the same for Turkey too, ignoring that Turkey is far more developed than their hellhole of a country. They can only dream to have a city like Istanbul.

 

[MenInG]

NEW DELHI/MUMBAI: India is considering restricting imports of some products from Malaysia including palm oil, according to government and industry sources, in reaction to the Southeast Asian country’s leader criticising New Delhi for its actions in occupied Kashmir.

India is looking for ways to limit palm oil imports and may place restrictions on other goods from the country, said a government source and an industry source who participated in discussions led by the Ministry of Commerce and Industry on the planned restrictions.

The sources asked not to be named as the proposal was still under discussion.

India’s government was angered after Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said last month at the United Nations that India had “invaded and occupied” Jammu and Kashmir and asked New Delhi to work with Pakistan to resolve the issue.

India revoked the special constitutional status of occupied Kashmir in August, angering Pakistan.

The government wants to send a strong signal of its displeasure to Malaysian authorities, the sources said.

India, the world’s biggest importer of edible oils, is planning to substitute Malaysian palm oil with supplies of edible oils from countries such as Indonesia, Argentina and Ukraine, said the sources.

Palm oil accounts for nearly two-thirds of India’s total edible oil imports. India buys more than nine million tonnes of palm oil annually, mainly from Indonesia and Malaysia.

In the first nine months of 2019, India was the biggest buyer of Malaysian palm oil, taking 3.9 million tonnes, according to data compiled by the Malaysian Palm Oil Board.

A spokeswoman for India’s commerce ministry said the ministry could not comment on things that were under consideration.

Alternative sellers
Malaysia’s prime minister on Friday said he had not received “anything official” from India after Reuters first reported that India was mulling restricting imports of Malaysian palm oil and other products.

The news prompted Malaysian palm oil futures to snap five days of gains to end lower on Friday evening.

The benchmark palm oil contract for December delivery on the Bursa Malaysia Derivatives Exchange that had earlier been trading up on the day, fell 0.9 per cent to close at 2,185 ringgit ($522.23) per tonne.

A Mumbai-based refiner said it would not create a shortage of edible oils in India if buyers there stopped importing palm oil from Malaysia.

“Indonesia is eager to sell more and more palm oil to India,” the refiner said, adding that India could also increase imports of soy oil from Argentina and sunflower oil from Ukraine to offset any drop in Malaysian palm oil shipments.

Indonesia wants New Delhi to increase palm oil purchases and wants to buy sugar from India in exchange.

Higher Indian imports had helped Malaysia reduce stockpiles in 2019, but stocks could rise again and prices could come under pressure if India curtails or stops imports, said a Mumbai-based dealer with a global trading firm.

India’s government is also planning some restrictions on imports from Turkey, one of the government sources said, as Ankara has issued repeated statements on occupied Kashmir, an issue that India considers an internal matter.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/251050-in...sian-imports-over-mahathirs-kashmir-statement

 

[Romali_rotti]

NEW DELHI/MUMBAI: India is considering restricting imports of some products from Malaysia including palm oil, according to government and industry sources, in reaction to the Southeast Asian country’s leader criticising New Delhi for its actions in occupied Kashmir.

India is looking for ways to limit palm oil imports and may place restrictions on other goods from the country, said a government source and an industry source who participated in discussions led by the Ministry of Commerce and Industry on the planned restrictions.

The sources asked not to be named as the proposal was still under discussion.

India’s government was angered after Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said last month at the United Nations that India had “invaded and occupied” Jammu and Kashmir and asked New Delhi to work with Pakistan to resolve the issue.

India revoked the special constitutional status of occupied Kashmir in August, angering Pakistan.

The government wants to send a strong signal of its displeasure to Malaysian authorities, the sources said.

India, the world’s biggest importer of edible oils, is planning to substitute Malaysian palm oil with supplies of edible oils from countries such as Indonesia, Argentina and Ukraine, said the sources.

Palm oil accounts for nearly two-thirds of India’s total edible oil imports. India buys more than nine million tonnes of palm oil annually, mainly from Indonesia and Malaysia.

In the first nine months of 2019, India was the biggest buyer of Malaysian palm oil, taking 3.9 million tonnes, according to data compiled by the Malaysian Palm Oil Board.

A spokeswoman for India’s commerce ministry said the ministry could not comment on things that were under consideration.

Alternative sellers
Malaysia’s prime minister on Friday said he had not received “anything official” from India after Reuters first reported that India was mulling restricting imports of Malaysian palm oil and other products.

The news prompted Malaysian palm oil futures to snap five days of gains to end lower on Friday evening.

The benchmark palm oil contract for December delivery on the Bursa Malaysia Derivatives Exchange that had earlier been trading up on the day, fell 0.9 per cent to close at 2,185 ringgit ($522.23) per tonne.

A Mumbai-based refiner said it would not create a shortage of edible oils in India if buyers there stopped importing palm oil from Malaysia.

“Indonesia is eager to sell more and more palm oil to India,” the refiner said, adding that India could also increase imports of soy oil from Argentina and sunflower oil from Ukraine to offset any drop in Malaysian palm oil shipments.

Indonesia wants New Delhi to increase palm oil purchases and wants to buy sugar from India in exchange.

Higher Indian imports had helped Malaysia reduce stockpiles in 2019, but stocks could rise again and prices could come under pressure if India curtails or stops imports, said a Mumbai-based dealer with a global trading firm.

India’s government is also planning some restrictions on imports from Turkey, one of the government sources said, as Ankara has issued repeated statements on occupied Kashmir, an issue that India considers an internal matter.

https://www.geo.tv/latest/251050-in...sian-imports-over-mahathirs-kashmir-statement

India just needs to do nothing, I mean whats a Malaysia or Turkey in the grand scale of things to India on this issue ? A big whooping nothing, Indians really shouldn't be paying any attention to this, if this was the US or UN breathing down their throat, then there is reason to worry however nothing of such, so Indians should just stop the crying and move on as they won this...

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

India just needs to do nothing, I mean whats a Malaysia or Turkey in the grand scale of things to India on this issue ? A big whooping nothing, Indians really shouldn't be paying any attention to this, if this was the US or UN breathing down their throat, then there is reason to worry however nothing of such, so Indians should just stop the crying and move on as they won this...

Agreed. India has far bigger issues like sanitation, poverty and general infrastructure, they should put their focus on addressing those rather than worry about winning PR wars.

 

[Mamoon]

So Mahathir got his answer. When you back a spineless government you only get humiliation in return.

 

[Manunited18]

So Mahathir got his answer. When you back a spineless government you only get humiliation in return.

The cats out of The bag!, lol

 

[Mamoon]

I wonder if Mahathir would be demanding us to return the sports car that he gifted Imran the other day? If we are not done flashing it yet, perhaps we should be shipping it back to KL.

 

[Lonewarrior]

So Mahathir got his answer. When you back a spineless government you only get humiliation in return.

I wonder if Mahathir would be demanding us to return the sports car that he gifted Imran the other day? If we are not done flashing it yet, perhaps we should be shipping it back to KL.

do you like that car ?

 

[Abdullah719]

I wonder if Mahathir would be demanding us to return the sports car that he gifted Imran the other day? If we are not done flashing it yet, perhaps we should be shipping it back to KL.

You seem more concerned about it than Mahatir

 

[cricketjoshila]

I wonder if Mahathir would be demanding us to return the sports car that he gifted Imran the other day? If we are not done flashing it yet, perhaps we should be shipping it back to KL.

I am no fan of political Imran. But he did the smart thing.

Saudis have money, influence, the two holy mosques and a 35yr old leader. What does Malaysia has?

Its prudent that he put his country s interests before his own personal whatever he has with a 93yr old leader.

 

[Mamoon]

I am no fan of political Imran. But he did the smart thing.

Saudis have money, influence, the two holy mosques and a 35yr old leader. What does Malaysia has?

Its prudent that he put his country s interests before his own personal whatever he has with a 93yr old leader.

Malaysia was one of the very few countries that supported Pakistan’s fake narrative on Kashmir and it also supported us on FATF. On the other hand, Saudi (rightly) backed India.

Imran’s biggest mistake was running to Saudi in person a few days ago in person to seek their permission. It was a diplomatic blunder and has made him look extremely weak. He should hack sent a delegation under the Foreign Minister and shouldn’t have gone in person.

Furthermore, this also ensures that Pakistan’s so-called mediatory role in Saudi-Iran conflict has no credibility. You cannot play a mediatory role when you allow one party to cart you around.

 

[kk1992]

Malaysia was one of the very few countries that supported Pakistan’s fake narrative on Kashmir and it also supported us on FATF. On the other hand, Saudi (rightly) backed India.

Imran’s biggest mistake was running to Saudi in person a few days ago in person to seek their permission. It was a diplomatic blunder and has made him look extremely weak. He should hack sent a delegation under the Foreign Minister and shouldn’t have gone in person.

Furthermore, this also ensures that Pakistan’s so-called mediatory role in Saudi-Iran conflict has no credibility. You cannot play a mediatory role when you allow one party to cart you around.

Everyone knows you aren’t that naive but you’ll pretend to be one as long as you can score points on a random forum.

It is an Internet forum, lol

 

[Mamoon]

Everyone knows you aren’t that naive but you’ll pretend to be one as long as you can score points on a random forum.

It is an Internet forum, lol

Again, you can dance around the issue and make it about me. The stage is yours.

However, we all know what has happened here even if the cult-members do not acknowledge it. Imran has been bullied by the Saudis and Pakistan has been made to look very weak.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Malaysia was one of the very few countries that supported Pakistan’s fake narrative on Kashmir and it also supported us on FATF. On the other hand, Saudi (rightly) backed India.

Imran’s biggest mistake was running to Saudi in person a few days ago in person to seek their permission. It was a diplomatic blunder and has made him look extremely weak. He should hack sent a delegation under the Foreign Minister and shouldn’t have gone in person.

Furthermore, this also ensures that Pakistan’s so-called mediatory role in Saudi-Iran conflict has no credibility. You cannot play a mediatory role when you allow one party to cart you around.

Imran has to follow the Saudi Emirati diktat because of what they offer Pakistan in return.

1.Jobs
2.Oil at cheap rates
3. Financial Aid
4.Access to the holy mosques.

Malaysia cant match this. Also its foolish to act on basis of assurances of a 93yr old.

 

[IAJ]

Imran has to follow the Saudi Emirati diktat because of what they offer Pakistan in return.

1.Jobs
2.Oil at cheap rates
3. Financial Aid
4.Access to the holy mosques.

Malaysia cant match this. Also its foolish to act on basis of assurances of a 93yr old.

Dr sahib is in very good shape being 93, impressing.

 

[WebGuru]

If i am not wrong Mahathir recently announced that he is going to step down as the PM at the end of next year for Anwar?

 

[Mamoon]

Imran has to follow the Saudi Emirati diktat because of what they offer Pakistan in return.

1.Jobs
2.Oil at cheap rates
3. Financial Aid
4.Access to the holy mosques.

Malaysia cant match this. Also its foolish to act on basis of assurances of a 93yr old.

Whether Pakistan should side with Saudi or Malaysia is a different issue. My point of contention(s) is that the whole process has made Pakistan look weak and fragile.

Imran and his party have big mouths but once again they have exposed their jelly spines under pressure.

Imran’s biggest blunder was running to Saudi in person to seek their permission. It was a novice mistake and should not have happened if he had any intelligence or sense of diplomacy.

The events of the last few days have proved the following:

- Pakistan is still a mercenary that allows itself to be bullied by stronger nations.

- Saudis do not trust Pakistan.

- Imran is a weak negotiator and clueless when it comes to diplomacy. He clearly failed to reassure Saudi after visiting them in person.

- Pakistan is no longer in a position to play a neutral role in geopolitics or to play a mediatory role in the Saudi-Iran proxy war. We are on the leash of both China and Saudi.

- Consequently, this will have negative implications as far as relationship with Iran is concerned. Furthermore, when we peddle our fake narrative on Kashmir in the future, the likes of Malaysia and Turkey are unlikely to support our narrative.

By buckling under Saudi pressure AFTER visiting them in person, Imran has ensured the following with one stroke:

- Our fake narrative on Kashmir has become extremely weak overnight.

- Our relationship with Iran, Turkey and Malaysia will worsen.

- Our position as a neutral and our role as a mediator in geopolitical conflicts have no credibility anymore.

It takes an individual of remarkable incompetency to weaken the image of your country to such an extent with one stroke. Thank you Imran.

 

[Savak]

All I know is that when Mamoon relentlessly goes after an individual or party non stop 24/7 regardless of whether that party is doing well or not, you know that is the party to back in the long run

 

[kk1992]

Again, you can dance around the issue and make it about me. The stage is yours.

However, we all know what has happened here even if the cult-members do not acknowledge it. Imran has been bullied by the Saudis and Pakistan has been made to look very weak.

lol.

Yea, we all know that and it is because you supported a government over the past many many years that was corrupt but it didn't matter to you. What do you think NS or Zardari would have done? lol, give some time.

It is about you, because you try to make it about you, you are here to score points while ignoring the major and main points.

 

[troodon]

Malaysia is the true melting pot of different cultures, beliefs and backgrounds. One of the most peaceful countries I’ve lived in, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, Christians and whoever else co exist without any issues, everybody is jolly and carefree and hospitable.

So there is weight in his statement. You can’t play the “but but your own country does xyz and is harboring unicorn death squads” on Mahathir.

Tamils get treated like dirt in Malaysia.

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[Mian]

Tamils get treated like dirt in Malaysia.

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This is still nothing compared to how poor Bangladeshis are treated in Gulf specially in Saudia. I am not saying Pakistani or Indians are treated like elite they are also victims but the way Bangladeshis are treated is inhumane. Even illegal Afghanis are treated better then them.

 

[MenInG]

The government's chief spokesperson Firdous Ashiq Awan on Wednesday said that Pakistan wishes to be "part of the solution and not part of the problem" when it comes to ties between Muslim countries.

Awan's remarks came during a media briefing in Islamabad regarding a meeting between the core committee members of the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI).

A meeting of the party's core committee had been called by the premier today at 5pm to discuss "the current political situation", according to DawnNewsTV.

Awan said that PM Imran and Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi informed the core committee on the decision to not attend the Kuala Lumpur Summit. "The prime minister and the foreign minister spoke in detail about the backdrop in which the decision was made," she said.

The PM's aide said that Pakistan has strategic interest in the region, especially with regard to the OIC (Organisation of Islamic Cooperation).

"OIC is a platform which 57 countries of the Muslim ummah are a part of and the ummah's unity is the need of the hour," she said.

Awan said that Pakistan wishes to play the role of a country that unites the ummah.

"The premier's vision to bring together the Muslim world means that Pakistan does not wish to align itself with any country's individual interests.

"Pakistan will stand with the overall cause and interests of the Muslim ummah," explained Awan, adding, "It wishes to play a central role for the betterment of the ummah and its solidarity."

Spoiler

Govt stance on Musharraf case
Awan also briefed the media on other discussions held during the meeting, including those on the subject of the verdict issued by the special court a day earlier against former president retired Gen Pervez Musharraf.

"The prime minister told the core committee that the institutions of Pakistan are the pillars of the state and the state's interest will always be supreme at any cost," she said.

"We have to bolster our support to the state's institutions and make them independent and stand by the rule of law.

"So the legal team will inform the committee, the cabinet and the party after reviewing these priorities and we will then present the government's stance on this."

ECP appointments, revival of 'Insaf lawyers wing'
She said that the issue of the pending appointments in the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) — especially that of the chief election commissioner — were also discussed in the meeting.

Awan reminded the audience that the issue has been facing a delay due to a lack of consensus in the parliament.

"The parliamentary committee formed by the prime minister comprising PTI and its government allies has been given the task of getting together with the National Assembly Speaker and deciding on a final course of action," said the PM's aide.

She said that the committee is expected to develop consensus on a candidate and "to fulfil its constitutional and legal responsibility to restore the ECP's functioning".

Awan termed the practice of two parties getting together to decide on the appointment of a regulator as "contrary to the parameters of democracy".

"A regulator is never hand picked or appointed out of choice."

She recommended that the parliament review the criteria of appointment for the future because a regulator must be appointed "on merit, competency, qualifications, and overall with a fair and free mechanism".

"It is important to empower an institution rather than parties or individuals," she stressed.

Awan said that the prime minister instructed the parliamentary committee to figure out the constitutional and legal way forward in this so that "we can rid ourselves" of this current method of ECP appointments.

She said that the Insaf lawyers wing of the party would be reactivated.

She said that the party's secretary-general and chief organiser has been tasked with the responsibility to work with the law ministry to review the areas in which the services of lawyers had not been effectively utilised and to develop a framework in which the government's law officer — who acts as a bridge between the "benches and the bars" — is able to assist in the quick dispensation of cases of public interest.

Maryam's wish to travel abroad
The spokesperson said that the matter of Maryam Nawaz's request to travel abroad to meet her ailing father, former prime minister Nawaz Sharif, was also debated upon.

"The request for her name to be removed from the ECL (Exit Control List) sent to the cabinet sub-committee by the court was reviewed.

"The prime minister and the core committee reiterated their resolve to uphold the belief that no one is above the law and there are no holy cows."

She said the government will decide on the matter based on recommendations provided by the sub-committee.

Awan said the government will free the law of the land which is in the iron grip of "wishes and desires". "The government will free this law held hostage by pressures and will further strengthen it for a free and independent legal system."

'India's true face exposed'
The core committee also strongly condemned India's new Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA), said the government's spokesperson.

"The premier in the Geneva conference on refugees unmasked India's true face before the world. He exposed India's extremist thinking hidden under the cloak of the state which is aimed at targeting minorities," said Awan.

She said the core committee lauded the premier's efforts on raising his voice on the Kashmir issue.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1522991/k...art-of-the-solution-not-the-problem-says-awan

 

[PakLFC]

I don't thinking Mahathir cares much about India rejecting to buy Malaysian oil or whatever they were threatening.

 

[IndianHero]

Countries like Turkey, Malaysia have hardly any business influence on India & vice versa. If India doesn't buy any of their products they don't care so do we.

However a country like China has huge influence on indian market. Had china pressurized india on kashmir by using its import/exports situation would have been different but the all-time weather friend of pakistan has betrayed them at this crucial juncture on kashmir.

 

[Hitman]

Countries like Turkey, Malaysia have hardly any business influence on India & vice versa. If India doesn't buy any of their products they don't care so do we.

However a country like China has huge influence on indian market. Had china pressurized india on kashmir by using its import/exports situation would have been different but the all-time weather friend of pakistan has betrayed them at this crucial juncture on kashmir.

Stole the words out of my mouth. If there is any country that can put pressure on us regarding the Kashmir issue it's China.

 

[JaDed]

Countries like Turkey, Malaysia have hardly any business influence on India & vice versa. If India doesn't buy any of their products they don't care so do we.

However a country like China has huge influence on indian market. Had china pressurized india on kashmir by using its import/exports situation would have been different but the all-time weather friend of pakistan has betrayed them at this crucial juncture on kashmir.

China will do business with anyone till others don’t interfere in their country, in realistic terms China is the most practical country there is, that understands business is business , politics is politics , they might vote in UN as they want but they won’t hurt their business interest.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Stole the words out of my mouth. If there is any country that can put pressure on us regarding the Kashmir issue it's China.

If they could, they would do on Arunachal and Sikkim and not Kashmir.

China has nearly 80bn trade with India with a surplus of 60bn. With its trade wars with western world, its not looking to start one with India

 

[MenInG]

The Malaysian prime minister, 94-year-old Mahathir Mohamad, has submitted his resignation to the king.

Mr Mahathir's shock resignation comes amid rumours that he may form a new coalition without his designated successor, Anwar Ibrahim.

The world's oldest prime minister came into power in 2018.

In a shock victory, he ousted then-prime minister Najib Razak, who has been linked to a multibillion-dollar scandal involving a government fund.

The Prime Minister's Office said the letter of resignation was submitted at 13:00 local time (05:00 GMT). No other details were included in the statement.

It is not clear who will be the next prime minister or if new elections will be called.

Mr Mahathir's resignation followed a period of "intense political manoeuvring", said the BBC's South East Asia correspondent Jonathan Head.

Who is Mahathir Mohamad?Anwar Ibrahim: Malaysia's leader-in-waiting

Mr Mahathir has dominated Malaysian politics for decades - he was previously prime minister from 1981 to 2003, and was part of the long-ruling party Barisan Nasional (BN).

Mr Anwar was Mr Mahathir's deputy but the relationship soured when Mr Anwar was sacked in 1998 after a leadership dispute.

He was later jailed on corruption and sodomy charges, which were widely regarded as politically motivated.

But in 2018, Mr Mahathir shocked the country when he announced that he was teaming up with Mr Anwar and joining the opposition alliance - Pakatan Harapan.

He said he was doing so to oust the government of Mr Najib, who had become embroiled in the 1MDB corruption scandal.

Mr Mahathir and Mr Anwar's alliance won - and Mr Mahathir agreed to eventually hand power over to Anwar.

But Mr Mahathir repeatedly refused to say when he would transfer power - stoking tensions within the opposition alliance.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51610974

 

[Hitman]

If they could, they would do on Arunachal and Sikkim and not Kashmir.

China has nearly 80bn trade with India with a surplus of 60bn. With its trade wars with western world, its not looking to start one with India

Exactly. China can, but they won't due to their own interests. And that's what every country looks forward to, their own interests. Pakistan too is learning the art slowly after many years, as evident by their silence on the treatment of Uighur muslims by China.

 

[Abdullah719]

The Malaysian prime minister, 94-year-old Mahathir Mohamad, has submitted his resignation to the king.

Mr Mahathir's shock resignation comes amid rumours that he may form a new coalition without his designated successor, Anwar Ibrahim.

The world's oldest prime minister came into power in 2018.

In a shock victory, he ousted then-prime minister Najib Razak, who has been linked to a multibillion-dollar scandal involving a government fund.

The Prime Minister's Office said the letter of resignation was submitted at 13:00 local time (05:00 GMT). No other details were included in the statement.

It is not clear who will be the next prime minister or if new elections will be called.

Mr Mahathir's resignation followed a period of "intense political manoeuvring", said the BBC's South East Asia correspondent Jonathan Head.

Who is Mahathir Mohamad?Anwar Ibrahim: Malaysia's leader-in-waiting

Mr Mahathir has dominated Malaysian politics for decades - he was previously prime minister from 1981 to 2003, and was part of the long-ruling party Barisan Nasional (BN).

Mr Anwar was Mr Mahathir's deputy but the relationship soured when Mr Anwar was sacked in 1998 after a leadership dispute.

He was later jailed on corruption and sodomy charges, which were widely regarded as politically motivated.

But in 2018, Mr Mahathir shocked the country when he announced that he was teaming up with Mr Anwar and joining the opposition alliance - Pakatan Harapan.

He said he was doing so to oust the government of Mr Najib, who had become embroiled in the 1MDB corruption scandal.

Mr Mahathir and Mr Anwar's alliance won - and Mr Mahathir agreed to eventually hand power over to Anwar.

But Mr Mahathir repeatedly refused to say when he would transfer power - stoking tensions within the opposition alliance.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51610974

Malaysia's king appoints Muhyiddin Yassin as prime minister

Malaysia's king has appointed seasoned politician Muhyiddin Yassin as the new prime minister, the latest twist to a weeklong political crisis.

In a statement issued by the palace on Saturday, Sultan Abdullah Sultan Ahmad Shah said Muhyiddin, a former interior minister and president of the Bersatu party, will be sworn in on Sunday as he likely commands the most support of any candidate.

The appointment came after this week's shock resignation of Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad, a move that plunged the country into crisis following a weekend of political wrangling and the collapse of the ruling alliance.

"The process to appoint the prime minister cannot be delayed because the country needs a government for the wellbeing of the people and the nation," the palace statement said. The king appoints the country's prime minister.

The king decreed that "it was the best decision for all".

The announcement came hours after Mahathir struck a new deal to work with his former ruling alliance led by rival Anwar Ibrahim and threw his name into the fray again.

But the palace announced that King Abdullah believed that Muhyiddin has the support of a majority of legislators.

"I only ask for all Malaysians to accept the decision announced by the national palace today," Muhyiddin told reporters at his home.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/02/200229085505647.html