Did not promote terror, I welcome any probe: Preacher Zakir Naik [Update Post#43]

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DHAKA, BANGLADESH:
HIGHLIGHTS
2 of 7 terrorists who killed 22 in Dhaka cafe reportedly inspired by him
Zakir Naik is a Mumbai-based doctor and an Islamic televangelist
Zakir Naik is banned in Canada, UK and Malaysia for his hate speeches
Bangladesh has asked India to examine the speeches of controversial Mumbai-based preacher Zakir Naik after reports that two of the seven terrorists who hacked to death 20 people at a Dhaka cafe last week were inspired by him.

"Already there are certain complaints from the Maulanas of Bangladesh that his (Naik) teachings are not in line with the Quranic teachings and Hadith," information minister Hasanul Haq Inu said on Wednesday.

"How much Naik's teachings influenced the terrorists, that is to be investigated. We are investigating the whole matter," he said.

Mr Inu said New Delhi has been requested to examine Naik's sermons. "I also request the Indian government and information minister that they also examine the context of Dr Naik's teachings," he added.

One of the Dhaka attackers, suspected to be Rohan Imtiaz - the son of a politician of Bangladesh's ruling Awami League - ran a propaganda on Facebook last year quoting 50-year-old Naik, a doctor and an Islamic televangelist, Bangladeshi newspaper 'Daily Star' reported.

When the report first emerged, the Indian government said: "We don't ban individuals, we ban organisations."

Naik, who heads the Islamic Research Foundation, is banned in the UK and Canada for his hate speeches. He is among 16 banned Islamic scholars in Malaysia.

He is said to be popular in Bangladesh for his sermons on Peace TV, beamed across the sub-continent, even in China, with a 100 million viewership. He is known for outrageous beliefs like homosexuals should be sentenced to death.

He also questioned once whether Osama bin Laden was a terrorist.

Seven terrorists attacked Dhaka's popular Holey Artisan cafe last Friday, killing 22 people, including two policemen. Three of the attackers are believed to be from elite schools and colleges.

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/bangladesh-asks-india-to-examine-zakir-nayeks-speeches-1428809

Will India show some spine and ban this preacher?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Ban him and hand him over to BD.

 

[Bewal Express]

What's he done wrong?

 

[Hamza78]

India will do it bcz he's Muslim if any Hindu than Bangladesh forget about it

 

[in_cutter]

The blame game has started. Fix the problem within. Naik did not arm these fools that carried out the attacks.

 

[Third_Umpire]

Ban him for just being an idiot. That is a big enough crime.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Ban him and hand him over to BD.

Shiv Sena are free to preach hate, do you want them banned too?

There doesn't seem to be much evidence against him in the news article. Can you post some quotes?

 

[Saeed]

India is the most irrelevant country in the world when it comes to helping against terrorism. Indian media needs to stop hyping up India.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Shiv Sena are free to preach hate, do you want them banned too?

There doesn't seem to be much evidence against him in the news article. Can you post some quotes?

No country has complained againist them for inciting any terror attacks in their country.SS that is.

His speeches are being thoroughly examined on the complaints of BD govt and then action will be taken.

 

[cricketjoshila]

India is the most irrelevant country in the world when it comes to helping against terrorism. Indian media needs to stop hyping up India.

Thank god we are not relevant in producing terrorists.

 

[QazzarFan]

India will do it bcz he's Muslim if any Hindu than Bangladesh forget about it

So you don't want this preacher to be banned just because he's a Muslim? These so called preachers are causing more harm to Islam than anyone else and yet you people still like to bury your head in the sand huh?

 

[www787]

So you don't want this preacher to be banned just because he's a Muslim? These so called preachers are causing more harm to Islam than anyone else and yet you people still like to bury your head in the sand huh?

what about Freedom of speech? as i recall you are a strong advocate of freedom of speech.
But let me be clear, his rhetoric is and can be damaging to Islam.

 

[QazzarFan]

what about Freedom of speech? as i recall you are a strong advocate of freedom of speech.
But let me be clear, his rhetoric is and can be damaging to Islam.

He's free to propagate his fatih but what he's doing is *******izing the quotes and justifying killing nonbelievers and gays. This is the internet age. Millions of people can be influenced at a click of a button. If you yourself do not have a strong foundation and understanding of your faith..one day you see a preacher justifying killing others and justifying terrorism, one can be easily influenced by that.

Very similar to mega church pastors spewing hate against Muslims and Jews. They themselves are doing the crime but effectively mind controlling and weaponizing millions. That ideology is more dangerous than picking up a gun and shooting.

 

[Zak_Fan]

About time subcontinent gets tough on these hate-preachers. Really happy to see how Bangladesh have acknowledged this as a serious problem.

 

[QazzarFan]

This is Zakir Naik in a nutshell:

 

[www787]

He's free to propagate his fatih but what he's doing is *******izing the quotes and justifying killing nonbelievers and gays. This is the internet age. Millions of people can be influenced at a click of a button. If you yourself do not have a strong foundation and understanding of your faith..one day you see a preacher justifying killing others and justifying terrorism, one can be easily influenced by that.

Very similar to mega church pastors spewing hate against Muslims and Jews. They themselves are doing the crime but effectively mind controlling and weaponizing millions. That ideology is more dangerous than picking up a gun and shooting.

In other words it is impossible to ban someone from speaking whatever they want to. The only way silence them is by putting them behind bars indefinitely or executing them. If it was this easy then ISIS would not been allowed to post propaganda videos online.

I agree with you on him *******izing the quotes but that is a form of freedom of speech, and he is free to practice it.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

There are probably tens of thousands of similar preachers or maybe more in the Islamic world. You can't ban them all. Xakir Naik is a tool but can he be blamed for the actions of others? I think not. BD state should take extreme measures and ban madrassahs/mosques within their own country that preach hate.

 

[Asim2Good]

even though I don't follow him.
saw few videos here n there.
never saw him saying about killing of non muslim though. are there any videos ?

 

[Saeed]

what about Freedom of speech? as i recall you are a strong advocate of freedom of speech.
But let me be clear, his rhetoric is and can be damaging to Islam.

How is Islam getting hurt? Islam can not be hurt. You mean it hurts the image of "moderate" Muslims?

 

[www787]

How is Islam getting hurt? Islam can not be hurt. You mean it hurts the image of "moderate" Muslims?

You are correct Islam isn't getting hurt. Its the Image of Islam and only because incident like this are magnified for the obvious reasons, and only a fool would deny that it isn't true.

But I also believe that we should and must speak out against anyone who distort Islam.

 

[Zak_Fan]

even though I don't follow him.
saw few videos here n there.
never saw him saying about killing of non muslim though. are there any videos ?

Saw some of his videos where he claimed that Taliban destroying Buddhist statues are actually educating them.

In other, he claimed that he stood with Muslims who terrorize America. Given NATO forces, I am sure his logic extends to many other countries as well. He is a lot more subtle than someone like Anjem Chaudharey, but that quality makes him sound more legit to a lot of Muslims.This is more dangerous than a clown mouthing off.

 

[CricketCartoons]

This BJP government cannot do anything to dr naik. They cant defeat him in debates, and they cant put him behind bars for fear of unrest. They should best ask dr. naik to stress on peace and good conduct so that it helps the misguided youth to come to the right path.

 

[Asim2Good]

Saw some of his videos where he claimed that Taliban destroying Buddhist statues are actually educating them.

In other, he claimed that he stood with Muslims who terrorize America. Given NATO forces, I am sure his logic extends to many other countries as well. He is a lot more subtle than someone like Anjem Chaudharey, but that quality makes him sound more legit to a lot of Muslims.This is more dangerous than a clown mouthing off.

educating who?
but again are there any of his msgs where he is preaching killing of non muslims openly?
and also from some of videos I saw, he is normally adressing to a huge gathering. if he is preaching that high level of hate, why he hasn't been banned by GOI? as report in OP saying he is already banned in few countries (this is first time i came to know about this).

 

[KingKhanWC]

No country has complained againist them for inciting any terror attacks in their country.SS that is.

His speeches are being thoroughly examined on the complaints of BD govt and then action will be taken.

Yes I forgot they are busy inciting hatred & violence in their country . Strange by the indian government to clamp down only if an outside country complains allowing many Hindu extremist groups to flourish in India . But when your prime minister was a rrs short wearing boy it makes sense .

But you have already decided he is guilty . Considering this chap is a preacher with his own tv channel it can't be too hard finding quotes of him inciting terrorism . Can you show some ?

 

[Asim2Good]

This BJP government cannot do anything to dr naik. They cant defeat him in debates, and they cant put him behind bars for fear of unrest. They should best ask dr. naik to stress on peace and good conduct so that it helps the misguided youth to come to the right path.

Atleast Govt. can stop/ban him from adressing huge crowd if GOI think he is reason

 

[Saeed]

It would be hypocritical to ban while letting RSS to do their usual business.

 

[Zak_Fan]

educating who?
but again are there any of his msgs where he is preaching killing of non muslims openly?
and also from some of videos I saw, he is normally adressing to a huge gathering. if he is preaching that high level of hate, why he hasn't been banned by GOI? as report in OP saying he is already banned in few countries (this is first time i came to know about this).

He has openly supported Osama Bin Laden. He supports anyone who terrorizes America. He supports suicide bombings.

Now, he will not say "Go Kill non-muslims".. but a man who holds the views above obviously is telling people that it is fine to follow Osama's example.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Saw some of his videos where he claimed that Taliban destroying Buddhist statues are actually educating them.

In other, he claimed that he stood with Muslims who terrorize America. Given NATO forces, I am sure his logic extends to many other countries as well. He is a lot more subtle than someone like Anjem Chaudharey, but that quality makes him sound more legit to a lot of Muslims.This is more dangerous than a clown mouthing off.

You being sure without proving he incites terrorism doesn't help. Knocking down statutes & believing people have a right to resist occupation are not uncommon views .

Qazzarfan posts a poor argument by him of not allowing churches in prob a state like Saudi Arabia . Yet earlier claimed it's clear he incites terrorism .

I find it strange OFCOM in the UK have missed this since his tv channel has been on air for years .

 

[Zak_Fan]

You being sure without proving he incites terrorism doesn't help. Knocking down statutes & believing people have a right to resist occupation are not uncommon views .

Qazzarfan posts a poor argument by him of not allowing churches in prob a state like Saudi Arabia . Yet earlier claimed it's clear he incites terrorism .

I find it strange OFCOM in the UK have missed this since his tv channel has been on air for years .

So what does it mean when he supports Osama Bin Laden or anyone who terrorizes America? What does it mean when Zakir Naik justifies suicide bombings?

 

[Asim2Good]

He has openly supported Osama Bin Laden. He supports anyone who terrorizes America. He supports suicide bombings.

Now, he will not say "Go Kill non-muslims".. but a man who holds the views above obviously is telling people that it is fine to follow Osama's example.

got link to video?
any reason why this guy is not banned by GOI yet then ? specially in time we are living today ?

 

[CricketCartoons]

So what does it mean when he supports Osama Bin Laden or anyone who terrorizes America? What does it mean when Zakir Naik justifies suicide bombings?

Why should India have problems with anyone who is against america?

He justified suicide attack only as the last resort in some cases.

He also says that killing innocents is forbidden and has condemned ISIS.

 

[Zak_Fan]

got link to video?
any reason why this guy is not banned by GOI yet then ? specially in time we are living today ?

The part starts at 3:50.

Here his views on suicide bombing -

 

[KingKhanWC]

He has openly supported Osama Bin Laden. He supports anyone who terrorizes America. He supports suicide bombings.

Now, he will not say "Go Kill non-muslims".. but a man who holds the views above obviously is telling people that it is fine to follow Osama's example.

Can you just post the quotes instead of asking people to take your word for it ?

That lecture has been on in the uk broadcasting network. He says he doesn't know if OBL is a terrorist & if he's resisting occupation in Afghanistan he's not doing anything wrong . The Americans agreed with him not long ago .

He's not someone I listen to but it seems this is a desperate effort to lay blame on him for someone eles actions . There are groups who listen to trump & stand with guns outside religious buildings in America .

 

[Zak_Fan]

Why should India have problems with anyone who is against america?

He justified suicide attack only as the last resort in some cases.

He also says that killing innocents is forbidden and has condemned ISIS.

Why shouldn't we have problems with anyone who supports terrorizing another country? He says don't kill innocent, yet he stands with Osama Bin Laden knowing things he did.

As for suicide bombings being the last resort, I am sure that most suicide bombers do believe that before they decide to blow themselves up. Promoting this idea isn't helping.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Why shouldn't we have problems with anyone who supports terrorizing another country? He says don't kill innocent, yet he stands with Osama Bin Laden knowing things he did.

As for suicide bombings being the last resort, I am sure that most suicide bombers do believe that before they decide to blow themselves up. Promoting this idea isn't helping.

Suicide bombing is a tactic of warfare . The issue is if he's agreeing with using this tactic to target innocent people . Clearly he isn't .

 

[Asim2Good]

The part starts at 3:50.

Here his views on suicide bombing -

thanks.
but why this guy is allowed to organise and talk to huge crowd in India? why GOI haven't banned him ?

 

[keyser]

thanks.
but why this guy is allowed to organise and talk to huge crowd in India? why GOI haven't banned him ?

Government is gutless for fear of offending Muslims. Was hoping this would change with bjp.

 

[Asim2Good]

Government is gutless for fear of offending Muslims. Was hoping this would change with bjp.

thats no excuse honestly. stopping him from organising events and stopping him from doing TV programmes should not b a problem.

 

[dayvancowboy]

Shiv Sena are free to preach hate, do you want them banned too?

There doesn't seem to be much evidence against him in the news article. Can you post some quotes?

Since it's fair game to implicate Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, and Geert Wilders, among others, for inspiring Norwegian terrorist Anders Breivik, it's also fair game to implicate Zakir Naik for inspiring these attackers as well.

Why so opposed to this? You think just because someone is supposedly devout that they get a free pass on this? Would you be so keen to give Anjem Choudary a free pass since he's a bearded Muslim brother?

 

[dayvancowboy]

How is Islam getting hurt? Islam can not be hurt. You mean it hurts the image of "moderate" Muslims?

So why are you upset over ISIS if you don't like the term "moderate" Muslim then? They're only trying to uphold Shariat in its entirety, so by that logic why oppose them? After all, in the other thread you showcased your blind devotion to Saudi Arabia so it's no wonder why you would rather make Pakistan like Saudi Arabia.

 

[Zak_Fan]

Suicide bombing is a tactic of warfare . The issue is if he's agreeing with using this tactic to target innocent people . Clearly he isn't .

There's something called propositional logic. You have a few declarative sentences, you feed them to your brain or a computer, and then you have a series of equally sound inferences coming out. Here we have :

• Zakir Naik stands with Osama Bin Laden.
• Osama Bin Laden killed thousands of innocents.

What do you think would be the inference here? Didn't he just support killing of innocent here? Same way, he says:

• It is ok to terrorize America or enemies of Islam.
• It is ok to be a suicide bomber if there is no other option.

So what do you infer from this? Doesn't this encourage helpless individuals to go out there, blow themselves up?

 

[Bewal Express]

Thank god we are not relevant in producing terrorists.

Massacre in Gujrat?

 

[Muhammad10]

Did Not Promote Terror, I Welcome Any Probe: Preacher Zakir Naik

Mumbai: Controversial Islamic preacher Dr Zakir Naik on Wednesday rubbished reports that his speeches promoted terrorism saying he welcomed any investigation against him.

"It is totally illogical to say that I promote terrorism. Not a single investigative agency says Dr Zakir Naik promotes terrorism. The Home Ministry is most welcome to go through all my speeches," Naik told CNN-News18 over the phone.

"I inspire many people because I have a large following. These people might have been inspired by me but I don’t know them personally. I fear media and politicians because they might malign my image. There are people who are using my photographs and misquoting me to defame me. I welcome any investigation against me," he added.

Naik, who is president of the Mumbai-based Islamic Research Foundation (IRF), also denied he ever said that all Muslims should be terrorists saying the video which allegedly showed him doing so was doctored.

The controversial preacher was reacting to reports from Bangladesh that two of the terrorists - Rohan Imtiaz and Nibras Islam - who hacked to death 20 people at Holey Artisan Bakery restaurant were inspired by him.

"I always preach no Muslim should terrorise anybody...Anyone who kills people, whether he is Muslim or non-Muslim, will go to hell," Naik said in the exclusive interview. I said every Muslim should be a terrorist to all anti social elements. It is unfortunate that people are alleging that I am promoting terrorism.

On the context of his controversial speech on Osama Bin Laden, he said, "My speech on Osama Bin Laden made in Singapore was doctored. I never asked to support Osama Bin Laden. The video circulated (in social media) was doctored. I didn't call Osama either a terrorist or a saint. I don’t even know him."

Meanwhile, Bangladesh Information Minister Hasanul Haq Inu said that there are reports that two of the attackers were inspired by Naik.

He said, "We got in touch with Ulemas to look into Naik's speeches. There are complaints against him in our country for his controversial speeches. Our investigating agencies are looking in to all the angles and I am not in a position to reveal everything in this moment."

Earlier, in the day Minister of State (MoS) for Home Affairs Kiren Rijiju said investigating agencies were probing his speeches.

http://www.news18.com/news/india/di...me-any-probe-preacher-zakir-naik-1266576.html

 

[dayvancowboy]

Mumbai: Controversial Islamic preacher Dr Zakir Naik on Wednesday rubbished reports that his speeches promoted terrorism saying he welcomed any investigation against him.

"It is totally illogical to say that I promote terrorism. Not a single investigative agency says Dr Zakir Naik promotes terrorism. The Home Ministry is most welcome to go through all my speeches," Naik told CNN-News18 over the phone.

"I inspire many people because I have a large following. These people might have been inspired by me but I don’t know them personally. I fear media and politicians because they might malign my image. There are people who are using my photographs and misquoting me to defame me. I welcome any investigation against me," he added.

Naik, who is president of the Mumbai-based Islamic Research Foundation (IRF), also denied he ever said that all Muslims should be terrorists saying the video which allegedly showed him doing so was doctored.

The controversial preacher was reacting to reports from Bangladesh that two of the terrorists - Rohan Imtiaz and Nibras Islam - who hacked to death 20 people at Holey Artisan Bakery restaurant were inspired by him.

"I always preach no Muslim should terrorise anybody...Anyone who kills people, whether he is Muslim or non-Muslim, will go to hell," Naik said in the exclusive interview. I said every Muslim should be a terrorist to all anti social elements. It is unfortunate that people are alleging that I am promoting terrorism.

On the context of his controversial speech on Osama Bin Laden, he said, "My speech on Osama Bin Laden made in Singapore was doctored. I never asked to support Osama Bin Laden. The video circulated (in social media) was doctored. I didn't call Osama either a terrorist or a saint. I don’t even know him."

Meanwhile, Bangladesh Information Minister Hasanul Haq Inu said that there are reports that two of the attackers were inspired by Naik.

He said, "We got in touch with Ulemas to look into Naik's speeches. There are complaints against him in our country for his controversial speeches. Our investigating agencies are looking in to all the angles and I am not in a position to reveal everything in this moment."

Earlier, in the day Minister of State (MoS) for Home Affairs Kiren Rijiju said investigating agencies were probing his speeches.

http://www.news18.com/news/india/di...me-any-probe-preacher-zakir-naik-1266576.html

He's using the same tactic that Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer did in the wake of Norway.

Zakir Naik can't handle the heat now that he is exposed as yet another hate monger.

 

[Saeed]

Someone's bitter over getting owned by Yossarian in spite of your love of al-Saud.

That was a quick reply. Looks like you're offended, good.

 

[Asim2Good]

Indian Govt. should ban this guy till investigation is completed. as its very serious matter. India has suffered because of terrorists and now neighbouring country have blamed India's national as inspiration for attacks.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Since it's fair game to implicate Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, and Geert Wilders, among others, for inspiring Norwegian terrorist Anders Breivik, it's also fair game to implicate Zakir Naik for inspiring these attackers as well.

Why so opposed to this? You think just because someone is supposedly devout that they get a free pass on this? Would you be so keen to give Anjem Choudary a free pass since he's a bearded Muslim brother?

It's fair game when it's proven . Some of his views may not be acceptable but the world wouldn't allow him tv channels if he's inciting terrorism . It's equally wrong to blame someone for the deaths of innocent people without having strong evidence . If proven he has incited the people to carry out an attack in Dhaka , he should be punished according to law .

 

[Saeed]

So if Zakir Naik is to be blamed then why did the same media blamed Pakistan few days ago?

 

[Asim2Good]

So if Zakir Naik is to be blamed then why did the same media blamed Pakistan few days ago?

he is ISI agent in India ?

 

[KingKhanWC]

There's something called propositional logic. You have a few declarative sentences, you feed them to your brain or a computer, and then you have a series of equally sound inferences coming out. Here we have :

• Zakir Naik stands with Osama Bin Laden.
• Osama Bin Laden killed thousands of innocents.

What do you think would be the inference here? Didn't he just support killing of innocent here? Same way, he says:

• It is ok to terrorize America or enemies of Islam.
• It is ok to be a suicide bomber if there is no other option.

So what do you infer from this? Doesn't this encourage helpless individuals to go out there, blow themselves up?

I watched the speeches , you have an interesting imagination . Some would say you could be easily radicalised if you perceive information in this way . Make sure you don't ever watch RSS videos .

 

[QazzarFan]

In KKWC's court, people like Zakir Nair will always be revered. The only Indian, I have seen him defend, so ardently

 

[Asim2Good]

why GOI let him spread hate for this long ? I still haven't got answer
clips posted above are from 2010, its been 6 years since he said that

answers so far
Shev Sena : No country has complained against them so its ok whatever they do in their own country
Zakir Naik : GOI can't do anything against him for fear of offending Muslims.

 

[in_cutter]

Bangladesh needs to make it's mind up. They also blamed ISI & Israel. Seems they are looking to shift blame rather than deal with the issue from within.

 

[in_cutter]

I also don't recall Naik ordering these morons to hack to death innocent people. As I said..Bangladesh are blaming others rather than accept the problem is within.

 

[dayvancowboy]

I also don't recall Naik ordering these morons to hack to death innocent people. As I said..Bangladesh are blaming others rather than accept the problem is within.

Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer didn't specifically ordered Breivik to gun down kids either. Doesn't change the fact that they are all complicit in shaping their views with their writings and speeches. And Zakir Naik is no exception.

 

[in_cutter]

Did Not Promote Terror, I Welcome Any Probe: Preacher Zakir Naik [Update Post#43]

Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer didn't specifically ordered Breivik to gun down kids either. Doesn't change the fact that they are all complicit in shaping their views with their writings and speeches. And Zakir Naik is no exception.

Who says Gellar inspired Breivik? First time I I am hearing this.

 

[dayvancowboy]

Who says Gellar inspired Breivik? First time I I am hearing this.

She was cited prominently in his 1500 page manifesto.

By contrast, he quoted the American and European counterjihad writers by name, notably Mr. Spencer, author of 10 books, including “Islam Unveiled” and “The Truth About Muhammad.”

Mr. Breivik frequently cited another blog, Atlas Shrugs, and recommended the Gates of Vienna among Web sites. Pamela Geller, an outspoken critic of Islam who runs Atlas Shrugs, wrote on her blog Sunday that any assertion that she or other antijihad writers bore any responsibility for Mr. Breivik’s actions was “ridiculous.”
Photo
Representative Peter T. King, Republican of New York, said the killings would not affect hearings on Islamic radicalization. Credit Mark Wilson/Getty Images

“If anyone incited him to violence, it was Islamic supremacists,” she wrote.

Mr. Breivik also quoted European blogs and writers with similar themes, notably a Norwegian blogger who writes under the name “Fjordman.” Immigration from Muslim countries to Scandinavia and the rest of Europe has set off a deep political debate across the continent and strengthened a number of right-wing anti-immigrant parties.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/25/us/25debate.html?_r=0

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Zakir Nair you LULLOO.

Spouting nonsense 24/7.

He is in all sorts of trouble.

 

[LastManstanding]

<h2 class="posttitle icon">UP clerics unite to seek Zakir Naik’s arrest</h2>
BAREILLY/MEERUT/LUCKNOW: While the Indian government took serious note of reports that perpetrators of the recent attacks in Bangladesh had perhaps been inspired by controversial Salafist preacher Zakir Naik, in an unprecedented solidarity of views, prominent clerics from across Uttar Pradesh urged strong action against Zakir Naik and Peace TV, the channel on which his speeches, often rantings, are broadcast.

Clerics of the Barelvi order in Bareilly, during the special speech at Eidgah in the city, called for Naik to be arrested and for a blanket ban on Peace TV. "It has been reported that terrorists who attacked the Dhaka cafe were inspired by Naik. His speeches support terror and radicalise people. Naik should be arrested and his channel, Peace TV, banned," said Maulana Shahbudeen Razvi.

Maulana Asjad Raza Khan Qadri, Bareilly city qazi, demanded a ban on Naik for his 'hate' speeches. "Naik's activities are against Islam and Indian culture. Back in 2008, the state government had banned his programmes in Lucknow, Kanpur and Allahabad," he said.

An English-speaking preacher and televangelist, Naik had also supposedly influenced Islamic State's Hyderabad module head Mohammad Ibrahim Yazdani. During his recent interrogation by the NIA, Yazdani reportedly admitted to being influenced by Naik.

Naik's speeches have been under the scanner in countries like the UK, Canada and Malaysia, which have banned him.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...k-Zakir-Naiks-arrest/articleshow/53106331.cms

 

[Smbhayi]

Suicide bombing was a big crime in islam. Those fools (who does that) doesn't know that. They didn't die for jihad nor as shaheed but as a non-muslims, which means they'll live in hell forever after death (as per muslims believes)

 

[hussain123]

Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer didn't specifically ordered Breivik to gun down kids either. Doesn't change the fact that they are all complicit in shaping their views with their writings and speeches. And Zakir Naik is no exception.

In a hypothetical scenario what if somebody "inspired" by your posts attempts to kill zakir naik.where should the responsibility be fixated??

 

[Asim2Good]

GOI should ban/arrest all extremist groups/persons once they start clean up
b they are hindu extremists or muslim extremists

 

[TM Riddle]

There's this shop outside our hostel catering to all our needs run by a Muslim uncle for last 40 years or something.Nice pretty chilled out guy,always smiling and eager to help students. He has this small tv installed in his shop which has Zakir Naik's videos running 24/7.At first I didn't really pay much attention to it but one day while having a smoke there I heard an argument by Zakir bhai that Sania Mirza should start wearing modest clothing as being a good muslim mattered and trumped all these silly nonsensical tennis rankings and that players like Serena and Sharapova were unfortunately going to go to hell.I was visibly amused by it and asked Uncle how could he listen to this trash all day to which he got angry and advised me to mind my own business as I didn't have any right to hurt someone's religious sentiments.To this day he harbors a grudge against me and never gives any udhar lol.

 

[Sandeep]

I'm a fan of Zakir Naik. Very entertaining guy. I watch him whenever I want to get relieved of stress, healthy comedy. However, he should make sure not to say anything radical as Muslim youth might get inspired, just like Bangladesh attackers..

 

[TM Riddle]

Why do clerics from UP and Bihar hate Zakir so much.Are they jealous of the popularity and supports he gets or is it something else?

 

[Asim2Good]

I'm a fan of Zakir Naik. Very entertaining guy. I watch him whenever I want to get relieved of stress, healthy comedy. However, he should make sure not to say anything radical as Muslim youth might get inspired, just like Bangladesh attackers..

what's your views on hindu extremists btw? who are forcing muslim to eat cow dung and those swamis who are defending these actions ?

 

[Sandeep]

Why do clerics from UP and Bihar hate Zakir so much.Are they jealous of the popularity and supports he gets or is it something else?

I guess they are. Pretty sure Zakir Naik earned millions and great popularity. Religion is indeed the best business!

These clerics are just a jealous bunch. Probably they're looking to replace him once he's booked?

 

[TM Riddle]

I guess they are. Pretty sure Zakir Naik earned millions and great popularity. Religion is indeed the best business!

These clerics are just a jealous bunch. Probably they're looking to replace him once he's booked?

One thing I gotta give it to him is that he's a good orator and has an exceptional memory skills.Remembering all those verses from different religious scriptures is no mean feat and he deserves full credit for that.

 

[Sandeep]

One thing I gotta give it to him is that he's a good orator and has an exceptional memory skills.Remembering all those verses from different religious scriptures is no mean feat and he deserves full credit for that.

Agreed. Very difficult to emulate.. he's become very good at that. Got to love his confidence, even when he's spreading bigotry. Blatantly confident. That's the best part about him..

 

[in_cutter]

I have been listening to Zakir Naik for years. Brilliant talker & full of knowledge. Haters will hate.

 

[speed]

Whatever you may say about him and his salafi views he has helped thousands to Islam, can't say the same for the halwa eating molvis.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

This is Zakir Naik in a nutshell:

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Yeah I remember this instance. Funny as hell.

In fact, it was a pretty simple question and the answer is straight forward too.

Saudi don't allow temples or churches cos its prohibited in their religion and they follow it. Western nations allow it cos their laws don't follow their religious rules strictly. So Mosques get built on their land. There is no hypocrisy of Muslims in the general sense. There would be hypocrisy if Western nations only allowed churches to be built on their land and Muslims whine about not being allowed to build Mosques (while not allowing other places of worship to be built in Islamic nations).

Matter done.

Case closed.

But then Zakir Naik only has lots of information.

No wisdom whatsoever.

 

[enkidu_]

Zakir Naik is not a "Muslim scholar", he has no ijaza (certificate) in any of the many Islamic sciences, he's, I think, a doctor by formation - in fact many "legitimate" Indian Islamic scholars have criticized him (I think Deoband collectively did). You could say he only does da'wa and he could be forgiven, but others would respond that he shouldn't talk on jurisprudential issues like suicide attacks, theological issues, etc

So he's not a "Muslim scholar".

Now, you may like him or not, I don't think he's a "jihadi scholar", like Anwar al Awlaki was for instance (he too wasn't a "scholar", anyway). The two militants who got "inspired" by him also gave the names of Anjem Choudhary (probably on the payroll of British secret services) and "Shami Witness" (the Indian IT ISIS with 'Umar Mukhtar's avatar, who would have probably been killed by ISIS today).

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

The part starts at 3:50.

Here his views on suicide bombing -

The first video is bloody dangerous. Its so obvious what he is trying to do.

Agree with what he says in the 2nd video. From a logical standpoint, suicide (for a purpose) can't be haram in any religion (let alone Islam). Though technically what's the official stance of every religion reg this is something I dunno.

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Similarly something must be done with that Yogi Adityanath too.

 

[street cricketer]

In a hypothetical scenario what if somebody "inspired" by your posts attempts to kill zakir naik.where should the responsibility be fixated??

You're missing the point here. It's not about targeting him per se, everyone has got a freedom of speech. It's when it infringes upon hate speech, action should be taken.

I genuinely feel for the stereotyping of muslims in the mainstream media, especially in the western tabloids. It's no different than the stereotyping of Indians or Pakistanis just because they belong to a third world country. I always find it hilarious when many right wing leaders ask all the muslims specifically to vocally condemn whenever a terrorist attack takes place. I can understand if the muslim clerics were asked to do it, but what does a normal muslim have in common with a terrorist? It's like a giant finger is pointed at a specific community saying "look, one of your kind has committed a terror attack again. You should feel guilty about it and condemn it". Why should my muslim friend feel guilty about a terror attack who has nothing more in common than me with a nutjob who blows up something at some place. I'm sure not a single sane individual condones such activity and so there is no point in asking the muslims specifically to condemn every terror attack. There are countless murderers and extortionists of every nationality or ethnicity, and I have no reason to feel more guilty just because some criminal belonging to my nationality or ethnicity committed a heinous crime.

However you have to address the elephant in the room at some point. Simply saying terrorism has no religion or nationality will not solve the problem at hand. There definitely is a problem of islamic radicalism, however the problem is not with the majority of normal muslims. The issue is with the minority fringe group that actively involves itself in radicalising the youth. Religion is an entity which is prone to get easily misinterpreted by people. All religions in the world preach only peace and spirituality, but there certainly are a few verses which have some violent connotations in every religion, be it hinduism or christianity or islam or buddhism. Hence religion is one thing that needs to be preached by the right people, otherwise it can easily get misused by people with negative intentions for their own agendas. And as the excellent article in the other thread pointed out, people do not get radicalised because they are more religious. In fact, terror outfits don't scout for highly religious people to radicalise them. Rather they scout for easily gullible teens and youngsters who have no direction to their life and those who have become disillusioned with life. It is easy to radicalise such youngsters who are gullible to be misused by those with evil intentions. And like that author said, an islamisation of radicalism takes place and islam is used as a framework for corrupting such youngsters. Every religion has a shady side (no matter how many times people deny it) and the terrorists inculcate and concentrate more on the negative aspects of religion while ignoring the positive and more peaceful aspects of it.

So any guy who preaches anything that infringes on hate speech should definitely be banned and those are the individuals that should be targeted. The problem arises when muslims take offence on the targeting of these fringe groups as targeting their religion which should not be the case. I have not come across Zakir Naik's teachings except those 2+2=5 ones posted here which are more funny than anything else. However if he has indeed preached that homosexuals or apostates should be punished with death sentence in any of his teachings, then that is enough hate speech to ban him imo. He seems to have been banned in the UK, Canada and Malaysia as well (which is an islamic country no less). Moreover there seems to be an opposition for him from the islamic scholars within India as well as those in Bangladesh, so I can't see how a probe on his teachings is unwarranted in any way.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Similarly something must be done with that Yogi Adityanath too.

Yogi is a reaction to the real problems. Solve the real problems, the five M's: macualayism, maoism, missionaries , muslim radicalism and media presstitutes and that will be the end of the very small reactionary group like Yogi ji.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

"If he is terrorising America – the terrorist, biggest terrorist – I am with him. ".........Zakir Naik.

This is quite a straight forward and explicit statement. And yet he still claims he doesn't promote terror?

 

[Thomaskutty]

I used to think his youtube videos were just some light comedy but his effect particularly on some middle class muslims is being revealed .. there are plenty from kerala.A relative of mine knows one of these isis couples mentioned in the article below from their college days together.Zakir is dangerous

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...m-middle-east-feared-to-be-with-isis-2902459/
http://english.manoramaonline.com/n...k-inspired-kerala-islamic-state-suspects.html

 

[TalentSpotterPk]

Dr Zakir Naik says that killing Innocent People is not allowed in Islam.

Who will define " Innocent " ? ?

Will Non Muslims who do not wage war on you and who do not harm you , Agnostics, Atheists, Apostasty & Blasphemy Accused be considered as People who are not Innocent ?


He has got go answer to the verses of Quran saying :

1. There is No Compulsion in Religion.
(2:257)

2. It is the truth from your Lord; wherefore let him who will believe and let him who will disbelieve.
(18:30)

3. Those who believe, then disbelieve, then again believe, then disbelieve, then disbelieve and than increase in disbelief, Allah will never forgive them nor will He guide them to the right way.
(4:138)


In this verse Allah mentions 6 stages a person can go through after becoming Muslim for example. If Zakir and all the Ulema who call for killing of Apostate after stage 2 than how will a person attain stage 3,4,5 & 6 mentioned in Holy Qur'an ? ?


Also instead of 1 Holy Allah they try to become Allah of Earth (Zameeni khuda) by giving punishments which are in the hand of Allah almightly.



It is these false interpretations of Holy Quran which are being used by Terrorists and Extremists and they kill innocent Muslims or innocent Non Muslims and Say that No they were not innocent as per their criterias of Innocence and they were rightly killed in the way of Allah.



Also Mouoodiat & Deobandiat and some others aswell spread the wrong image by their writings amd Tongue that Islam spread by the Force of Sword. This os absolute Rubbish and Lie.

Hazur Pbuh did Jehaad of Sword only as a Defence and never started the offensive. Those wars were fought to protect the honour & wealth of Muslims which was at stake. And muslims never initiated those wars.


Islam is a strong religion and a belief system. If you are telling this rubbish to the world that Islam spread by Sword than it is a huge accusation on Islam that Islam converts or converted Jews, Christians, Budhmatts & Hindus into Islam not by the power of impressive character and deads of Muslims or through the divine strength of Holy Quran and its strength as a Perfect Holy Book and by the living great examples of Prophet Mohammad Pbuh, His Caliphs and companions but rather people became muslim by fear, fear of their life that If they wont convert the Islamic sword will kill them. By this stupid interpretations those Mullah's defame beautiful islam and potray to the world that Islam (Naoozbillah) has such a weak belief system and its only strength is no evidence no example no proof but the Sword and its fear.


So these people who interpret Islam in the wrong way are responsible for misuse of these false interpretations by the Wehshee Janooni Terrorists like Taliban, Daesh, Al Qaida etc etc. So these breedind grounds of Support should be stopped. For example Jamaat e Islami & Ulema e Deoband do not disagree with the ideology of Talibaan & Daesh and even when they are killed they call them martyred soldiers of Islam. So this Ideological Base and support has to be stopped in order to stop recruitment of Terrorists on name of Jehaad aswell as Financial & Weapon support of Agencies of Islamic aswell as Non Islamic Countries should be stopped aswell in order for this menace to be destroyed completely.


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