Did PM Imran Khan and Deputy Speaker Qasim Suri commit treason?

[Major]

Supreme court gave its verdoct 5-0 that Qasim Suri's ruling was against the constitution.

This will open a new pandora box, as now opposition can go after Imran Khan with this ruling and article 6.

Article 6 states:

Section one of the Article says:

“Any person who abrogates or subverts or suspends or holds in abeyance, or attempts or conspires to abrogate or subvert or suspend or hold in abeyance, the Constitution by use of force or show of force or by any other unconstitutional means shall be guilty of high treason.”

The second clause adds that any person aiding, abetting or collaborating in the acts will also be considered guilty of high treason.

Clause 2A says that an act of high treason cannot be validated by any court, including the Supreme Court and a High Court.”

The last clause directs the Parliament to provide “for the punishment of persons found guilty of high treason.”

 

[Poseidon]

i think Qasim suri did, but not IK.

 

[MenInG]

poll added.

 

[Extra_Cover]

Absolutely not. The judge had reasonable doubt to believe the proceedings were a byproduct of a threat letter received from another country. Given the common instances and linkages to the letter the speaker applied his professional judgement to the matter and dismissed the NCM.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Unconstitutional is not treason. For god's sake in a parliamentary democracy, political parties will use every legal trick to stay in power. Thats why the need for a judicial review.

This is not treason. Not by any stretch.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Did PM Imran Khan and Deputy Speaker Qasim Suri commit treason?

Absolutely Not!

 

[Major]

Unconstitutional is not treason. For god's sake in a parliamentary democracy, political parties will use every legal trick to stay in power. Thats why the need for a judicial review.

This is not treason. Not by any stretch.

Which is why i pasted article 6

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

The besharam log want IK to be banned, or worse go to jail. They have been lying for years that he was "selected", and know very well how popular he is. So their thought process is you cant beat him disqualify him.

 

[Major]

The court said that the presidents move to dissolve NA was also unconstitutional.

Could mods plz add the Arif Alvis name to thread and poll plz

 

[Major]

The besharam log want IK to be banned, or worse go to jail. They have been lying for years that he was "selected", and know very well how popular he is. So their thought process is you cant beat him disqualify him.

Hey, we never told him to do that tamasha in Parliament. He committed that mistake he pay for it.

Poor mushi cant return to pakistan for the emergency.

 

[Buffet]

Political parties trying keep power and using all methods... Hardly a treason.

 

[Major]

I like how pti fans are justifying this that oh politcal parties do this its all right...

If this was ppp or pmln the ghaider comments would had been coming by now. Than theblogic of oh parties do this would not had been accepted

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Hey, we never told him to do that tamasha in Parliament. He committed that mistake he pay for it.

Poor mushi cant return to pakistan for the emergency.

Musharraf has no support in the country. You want to put IK in jail, you are asking for anarchy. Best thing the Pakistan Daku Movement can do for the country is hold elections asap.

 

[Reddy]

Both need to be tried under the violation of Article 6, if they are not punished then Musharraf will also ask his sentence to be expunged.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Zaradiri and Nawaz have robbed the nation blind for decades but others are treaounous. )

Speaker made a decision based on what he thought was right. There is no evidence IK forced him to do this.

Nobody not even the Pak army can touch Imran Khan, let alone clowns like Bilo, Zardari and Sharif bros.

 

[Arsal_AK]

No, major as I have said before, no matter how much you twist article 6, it won't amount to treason charges against PTI.

And although the opposition are dumb (by far the most incompetent group of people one can imagine), they won't go charging Imran with treason. If they do, there won't be any coming back for them.

There is also the fact that no court in the world will charge Imran or anyone else with treason based on what happened in parliament. It's a laughable suggestion.

 

[SportsWarrior]

Normally I would say this is not treason but looks like your article 6 is quite strong. There shouldn't be a treason charges, but there should be some consequences for trying to bypass constitution. May be life ban for those involved.

 

[moghul]

Corrupt people are celebrating in Pakistan . Our old cultural values of muk mukao, chaa pani, sab chalta hay, kam ho jaiga agar zara haath garam karen , is back.

 

[moghul]

Normally I would say this is not treason but looks like your article 6 is quite strong. There shouldn't be a treason charges, but there should be some consequences for trying to bypass constitution. May be life ban for those involved.

Horse trading is very much part of the constitution and our national value and culture.

 

[Clueless]

Unconstitutional is not treason. For god's sake in a parliamentary democracy, political parties will use every legal trick to stay in power. Thats why the need for a judicial review.

This is not treason. Not by any stretch.

True that, but the article 6 of Pakistan actually calls it "treason".

Have been watching Pakistani news channel for the last 10 days or so and the kind of discourse and the framing of the language of the article seems a bit amateurish. The language can so easily be exploited and too many obvious loopholes and contradictions that IK has brought to light.

 

[Clueless]

Political parties trying keep power and using all methods... Hardly a treason.

If you follow the letter to the word, after the SC verdict IK and PTI have actually committed treason. SC would be hard pressed to reject the "treason" allegation without contradicting its own verdict today.

 

[Local.Dada]

Not treason at all. At best bad advice from an unqualified person without any back up plan to a guy who seems to have what we call messiah complex. They probably meant well. Will escape with a little slap on the back. Hopefully no crazy extreme steps as you expect with Pakistan based on history.

 

[Clueless]

No, major as I have said before, no matter how much you twist article 6, it won't amount to treason charges against PTI.

And although the opposition are dumb (by far the most incompetent group of people one can imagine), they won't go charging Imran with treason. If they do, there won't be any coming back for them.

There is also the fact that no court in the world will charge Imran or anyone else with treason based on what happened in parliament. It's a laughable suggestion.

1. SC has declared the act by the deputy speaker as "unconstitutional"
2. Article 6 calls unconstitutional acts as "treason"
SC will logically apply treason when the case is brought in front of it.

It might be uncomfortable for you but certainly laughable.

 

[Colorblind Genius]

If IK is convicted as "guilty of treason" then Allah hafiz hai iss qome ka

 

[Major]

If IK is convicted as "guilty of treason" then Allah hafiz hai iss qome ka

why allah he hafiz hai is qoum ka?

You used to talk about some teeka, supreme court gave that teeka today...

Now if the case proceeds in court by opposition, its upon the courts to decide.....

Or get a majority and amend the constitution

 

[pakistanisgreat]

1. SC has declared the act by the deputy speaker as "unconstitutional"
2. Article 6 calls unconstitutional acts as "treason"
SC will logically apply treason when the case is brought in front of it.

It might be uncomfortable for you but certainly laughable.

This is a valid point. I think if IK ever become PM again they will use this against him along with foreign funding case.

 

[Reddy]

Article 6 case and Foreign funding case, these two are enough to permanently banish Imran.

 

[Arsal_AK]

1. SC has declared the act by the deputy speaker as "unconstitutional"
2. Article 6 calls unconstitutional acts as "treason"
SC will logically apply treason when the case is brought in front of it.

It might be uncomfortable for you but certainly laughable.

Again twisting what article six is, doesn't make your case any better. It still is an absurd idea.

Let me repeat, no court is going to the charge Imran or the president with treason. Heck they aren't even going to charge the speaker.

They called the ruling unconstitutional, notice how they haven't used any such language against the later decisions based on it, nor against the PM, the President or even the speaker. A ruling being unconstitutional doesn't evoke article six.

It's not uncomfortable for me. I know it might be difficult to fathom but disagreeing on a point doesn't mean that one is a Imran/PTI supporter or vice versa.

 

[Arsal_AK]

First it was PTI internet lawyers telling us how speaker's ruling us above all. See how that turned out.

Now this thread the other side (insert party name) arguing that they know the constitution and Imran will face treason charges. The outcome here will be the as the PTI case.

Even a very basic reading of article 6 should make it clear that all this talk is hogwash.

 

[Clueless]

First it was PTI internet lawyers telling us how speaker's ruling us above all. See how that turned out.

Now this thread the other side (insert party name) arguing that they know the constitution and Imran will face treason charges. The outcome here will be the as the PTI case.

Even a very basic reading of article 6 should make it clear that all this talk is hogwash.

Here:
“Any person who abrogates or subverts or suspends or holds in abeyance, or attempts or conspires to abrogate or subvert or suspend or hold in abeyance, the Constitution by use of force or show of force or by any other unconstitutional means shall be guilty of high treason.”

The second clause adds that any person aiding, abetting or collaborating in the acts will also be considered guilty of high treason.

Clause 2A says that an act of high treason cannot be validated by any court, including the Supreme Court and a High Court.”

The last clause directs the Parliament to provide “for the punishment of persons found guilty of high treason.”

I was under the assumption Court has the authority regarding treason charge, but if it lies with the parliament. Then you can bet your bottom dollar, opposition of PPP an PML-N will execute and eliminate the threat of IK ever coming back now. Only courts can save Imran, if there is even a chance.

 

[Major]

First it was PTI internet lawyers telling us how speaker's ruling us above all. See how that turned out.

Now this thread the other side (insert party name) arguing that they know the constitution and Imran will face treason charges. The outcome here will be the as the PTI case.

Even a very basic reading of article 6 should make it clear that all this talk is hogwash.

I am not claiming. I am hoping looking at the article

 

[Itachi]

Here:
“Any person who abrogates or subverts or suspends or holds in abeyance, or attempts or conspires to abrogate or subvert or suspend or hold in abeyance, the Constitution by use of force or show of force or by any other unconstitutional means shall be guilty of high treason.”

The second clause adds that any person aiding, abetting or collaborating in the acts will also be considered guilty of high treason.

Clause 2A says that an act of high treason cannot be validated by any court, including the Supreme Court and a High Court.”

The last clause directs the Parliament to provide “for the punishment of persons found guilty of high treason.”

I was under the assumption Court has the authority regarding treason charge, but if it lies with the parliament. Then you can bet your bottom dollar, opposition of PPP an PML-N will execute and eliminate the threat of IK ever coming back now. Only courts can save Imran, if there is even a chance.

Clause 2A is dangerous....

Pakistan constitution IS a bit aggressive and puts too much power on parliament than court.

 

[daytrader]

I am not claiming. I am hoping looking at the article

You should listen to one of your party seniors, Aitzaz Ahsan on this topic. Article 6 can't be applied as per him

 

[Arsal_AK]

Here:
“Any person who abrogates or subverts or suspends or holds in abeyance, or attempts or conspires to abrogate or subvert or suspend or hold in abeyance, the Constitution by use of force or show of force or by any other unconstitutional means shall be guilty of high treason.”

The second clause adds that any person aiding, abetting or collaborating in the acts will also be considered guilty of high treason.

Clause 2A says that an act of high treason cannot be validated by any court, including the Supreme Court and a High Court.”

The last clause directs the Parliament to provide “for the punishment of persons found guilty of high treason.”

I was under the assumption Court has the authority regarding treason charge, but if it lies with the parliament. Then you can bet your bottom dollar, opposition of PPP an PML-N will execute and eliminate the threat of IK ever coming back now. Only courts can save Imran, if there is even a chance.

I have read the article. A speaker denying a motion based on his interpretation of article 5 and his reasoning of what's happening around him is not a measure of force as stated here nor is it done by unconstitutional means. He is the speaker of the national assembly and is from the party which hold the most seats by far. There is nothing more constitutional than that.

Nobody can put treason charges, and on the PM no less, on a ruling by an elected speaker of the national assembly.

If the ruling was unconstitutional, this is going to be blow that out of the water by just how undemocratic and idiotic it would be.

As I have said, your twisting of article 6 doesn't make the so called treason angle any more credible or real.

 

[daytrader]

Some advocate named Maulvi iqbal Haider has filed a petition in Islamabad high court for this

 

[Zaz]

Some advocate named Maulvi iqbal Haider has filed a petition in Islamabad high court for this

Some of these advocates in pakistan are pathetic Instead of pursuing truth and justice they are involved in using the judiciary to pursue the killing of innocents

Nothing will come of this rubbish

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: On the eve of the voting on the no-confidence motion against Prime Minister Khan, the Opposition Friday submitted a no-confidence motion against National Assembly Deputy Speaker Qasim Khan Suri too.

“[…] the resolution for removal from office of Muhammad Qasim Khan Suri, Deputy Speaker, under paragraph (c) of clause (7) of Article 53 of the Constitution, read with Rule 12 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in the National Assembly, 2007,” the document of the resolution read.

Opposition MNA Murtaza Javed Abbasi submitted the motion to the secretary National Assembly.

The Opposition in the resolution stated that the deputy speaker has "repeatedly" violated the rules, parliamentary practices, democratic norms and traditions and even Constitutional provisions, and when presiding over the House, has "failed to conduct proceedings in an orderly manner to enable productive debate on issues of public importance."

"Instead of performing his role fairly and impartially, the deputy speaker has acted in a blatantly partisan manner invariably favouring the government, especially in passing legislation, and has frequently deprived Opposition members of their inherent, democratic right to speak and voice their views and the views of their electorate," the document read.

Referring to the political drama stages on April 3, 2022, they mentioned in the resolution that the deputy speaker passed a ruling rejecting the resolution for a vote of no-confidence against the prime minister which had been filed under Article 95(1) of the Constitution on March 8, 2022.

However, the Supreme Court of Pakistan vide its order dated April 7, 2022 has declared the said ruling contrary to the Constitution and the law of no legal effect and has set aside the same.

"The deputy speaker has willfully and malafidely subverted the Constitution and his action falls within the purview of Article 6 of the Constitution.," it read.

Geo

 

[Itachi]

ISLAMABAD: On the eve of the voting on the no-confidence motion against Prime Minister Khan, the Opposition Friday submitted a no-confidence motion against National Assembly Deputy Speaker Qasim Khan Suri too.

“[…] the resolution for removal from office of Muhammad Qasim Khan Suri, Deputy Speaker, under paragraph (c) of clause (7) of Article 53 of the Constitution, read with Rule 12 of the Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business in the National Assembly, 2007,” the document of the resolution read.

Opposition MNA Murtaza Javed Abbasi submitted the motion to the secretary National Assembly.

The Opposition in the resolution stated that the deputy speaker has "repeatedly" violated the rules, parliamentary practices, democratic norms and traditions and even Constitutional provisions, and when presiding over the House, has "failed to conduct proceedings in an orderly manner to enable productive debate on issues of public importance."

"Instead of performing his role fairly and impartially, the deputy speaker has acted in a blatantly partisan manner invariably favouring the government, especially in passing legislation, and has frequently deprived Opposition members of their inherent, democratic right to speak and voice their views and the views of their electorate," the document read.

Referring to the political drama stages on April 3, 2022, they mentioned in the resolution that the deputy speaker passed a ruling rejecting the resolution for a vote of no-confidence against the prime minister which had been filed under Article 95(1) of the Constitution on March 8, 2022.

However, the Supreme Court of Pakistan vide its order dated April 7, 2022 has declared the said ruling contrary to the Constitution and the law of no legal effect and has set aside the same.

"The deputy speaker has willfully and malafidely subverted the Constitution and his action falls within the purview of Article 6 of the Constitution.," it read.

Geo

Now it will be interesting. How far will it go?

is removal the final target or there's more....

 

[Kianig89]

What a nonsense question anyone with the brain of ant would understand its nota treason if money laundering and kickbacks are not treason then how come a speakers ruling is treason, where are the proponents of parliament is supreme and we have to make this house stronger looks like clear personal vendetta against IK and PTI

 

[MenInG]

Attorney General for Pakistan (AGP) Khalid Jawed Khan has said the Supreme Court’s ruling directing the National Assembly speaker to hold the voting on-confidence motion against Prime Minister Imran Khan should be implemented in letter and spirit.

“I always fight in court but once the court passed order, it has to be implemented in letter and spirit and it shall be done,” the AGP told media persons in Islamabad on Saturday.

His statement comes as political uncertainty continues to grip the country with crucial NA session to decide the fate of the premier is currently underway in the federal capital.

In a landmark unanimous ruling, the Supreme Court on Thursday set aside National Assembly Deputy Speaker Qasim Suri’s ruling to dismiss the no-trust resolution against PM Imran and the subsequent dissolution of the lower house of parliament by President Arif Alvi on the premier’s advice.

“The ruling of the deputy speaker of the National Assembly in relation to the resolution for a vote of no-confidence against the prime minister under Article 95 of the Constitution are declared to be contrary to the Constitution and the law and of no legal effect, and the same are hereby set aside,” the top court said in its short order.

The 5-0 ruling ordered parliament to reconvene on Saturday (today), no later than 10:30am, saying that the session could not be prorogued without the conclusion of the no-trust motion against PM Imran.

“It is declared that the resolution was pending and subsisting at all times and continues to so remain pending and subsisting.”

The NA session, chaired by National Assembly Speaker Asad Qaiser, is expected to hold voting on no-trust motion at around 8pm while some media reports claimed that PM Imran has summoned an emergency meeting of the federal cabinet at 9pm today.

 

[silentkiller187]

Former Pakistan premier Imran Khan may face treason charges: Report

In an ironic turn of events, the provisions of Pakistan's constitution that the former premier Imran Khan sought to use against his opponents might be his undoing by becoming the reason for possible charges of treason against him, said a media report.

Notably, with a clutch of petitions filed before various courts citing the provisions of the constitution that Khan tried to use against his opponents during his last fortnight in power, he may face renewed charges of treason and a possible trial, reported Islam Khabar.

Though Islamabad High Court Chief Justice Athar Minallah rejected one of these petitions as "frivolous", the danger still looms on Khan with the decision on other petitions still pending in the courts.

After failing at his attempts to block the no-confidence motion upon realization of falling short of the majority, Khan declared the launch of a "freedom struggle" in the National Assembly within hours of being voted out of power on April 10.

Further, the Supreme Court had to repeatedly intervene in the process of the no-trust motion, by taking note of the rejection of the motion in the National Assembly and summoning all parties for a four-day hearing.


Moreover, dismissing serious concern from the government's legal wing, Khan sent the Foreign Office diplomatic letter to Chief Justice of Pakistan Umar Ata Bandial, claiming that a foreign country sent a threatening message through Pakistan's envoy, reported the media outlet.

The relevant provisions of the constitution based on which the petitions have been filed against Khan include Article 5(1) under which "loyalty to the state and obedience to the constitution and law" is an inviolable obligation of every citizen.

Another article included in the petitions -- Article 6 -- states that any person who abrogates or attempts to abrogate the constitution by use of force shall be guilty of high treason, adding that an act of treason cannot be validated by any court including the Supreme Court.


WORLD NEWS
Thus, a possible trial against Khan may implicate all those who participated in blocking the parliamentary vote, a legitimate exercise under the Constitution. These cohorts include President Arif Alvi, National Assembly Speaker Asad Qaisar, Deputy Speaker Qasim Shah Suri and two former ministers -- Shah Mahmood Qureshi and Fawad Chaudhary.

However, besides the parliamentary processes, the principal thrust behind the move is from the army that has not taken well to Khan's attempts of implicating. Further, Khan's persistence in a "foreign conspiracy" to implicate the US has also displeased the army.

Also read: Shehbaz Sharif elected Pakistan's 23rd Prime Minister, replaces Imran Khan

While also being dragged into the public and political discord, the army has also not taken kindly to Imran Khan persisting with his "foreign conspiracy" charge that implicates the United States, the country's biggest benefactor, muddling diplomatic ties, and also casting aspersions on the new government.


At the political level also, the issue will be highlighted after the word has come from self-exiled PML (N) supremo Nawaz Sharif charging Imran Khan with "high treason" and calling for his trial, reported the media outlet.

The final thrust may come from the army as the statement issued by the army 'huddle' at the 79th Formation Commanders' meeting held on April 12 took note of the "propaganda campaign," and attempt to "divide institution and society," thus hinting at its angry mood.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/worl...e-treason-charges-report-101649922921999.html

 

[Bewal Express]

Former Pakistan premier Imran Khan may face treason charges: Report

In an ironic turn of events, the provisions of Pakistan's constitution that the former premier Imran Khan sought to use against his opponents might be his undoing by becoming the reason for possible charges of treason against him, said a media report.

Notably, with a clutch of petitions filed before various courts citing the provisions of the constitution that Khan tried to use against his opponents during his last fortnight in power, he may face renewed charges of treason and a possible trial, reported Islam Khabar.

Though Islamabad High Court Chief Justice Athar Minallah rejected one of these petitions as "frivolous", the danger still looms on Khan with the decision on other petitions still pending in the courts.

After failing at his attempts to block the no-confidence motion upon realization of falling short of the majority, Khan declared the launch of a "freedom struggle" in the National Assembly within hours of being voted out of power on April 10.

Further, the Supreme Court had to repeatedly intervene in the process of the no-trust motion, by taking note of the rejection of the motion in the National Assembly and summoning all parties for a four-day hearing.


Moreover, dismissing serious concern from the government's legal wing, Khan sent the Foreign Office diplomatic letter to Chief Justice of Pakistan Umar Ata Bandial, claiming that a foreign country sent a threatening message through Pakistan's envoy, reported the media outlet.

The relevant provisions of the constitution based on which the petitions have been filed against Khan include Article 5(1) under which "loyalty to the state and obedience to the constitution and law" is an inviolable obligation of every citizen.

Another article included in the petitions -- Article 6 -- states that any person who abrogates or attempts to abrogate the constitution by use of force shall be guilty of high treason, adding that an act of treason cannot be validated by any court including the Supreme Court.


WORLD NEWS
Thus, a possible trial against Khan may implicate all those who participated in blocking the parliamentary vote, a legitimate exercise under the Constitution. These cohorts include President Arif Alvi, National Assembly Speaker Asad Qaisar, Deputy Speaker Qasim Shah Suri and two former ministers -- Shah Mahmood Qureshi and Fawad Chaudhary.

However, besides the parliamentary processes, the principal thrust behind the move is from the army that has not taken well to Khan's attempts of implicating. Further, Khan's persistence in a "foreign conspiracy" to implicate the US has also displeased the army.

Also read: Shehbaz Sharif elected Pakistan's 23rd Prime Minister, replaces Imran Khan

While also being dragged into the public and political discord, the army has also not taken kindly to Imran Khan persisting with his "foreign conspiracy" charge that implicates the United States, the country's biggest benefactor, muddling diplomatic ties, and also casting aspersions on the new government.


At the political level also, the issue will be highlighted after the word has come from self-exiled PML (N) supremo Nawaz Sharif charging Imran Khan with "high treason" and calling for his trial, reported the media outlet.

The final thrust may come from the army as the statement issued by the army 'huddle' at the 79th Formation Commanders' meeting held on April 12 took note of the "propaganda campaign," and attempt to "divide institution and society," thus hinting at its angry mood.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/worl...e-treason-charges-report-101649922921999.html

Why the wait? Bring it on. This system has to fall where a few corrupt Generals, black sheep in the Judiciary, local politicians backed by American money and blackmailing hijack a system and PK a slave. There is a great line in Shahrukh Khan film where he is holding onto Madhuri and she lets go with the immortal line, my living isn't important, your death is.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I agree with Joshillabhai's post. He is a good expert on constitutions and if he says its not treason then that's enough for me.

 

[Maher96]

The claims that Imran Khan’s government violated the constitution are barely tenable. Before his removal, the constitution was still in place, the courts were still working, the parliament was in session, the democracy was still functioning.

The American government was, however, unhappy with his recent visit to Russia. They thought he picked a side by visiting Moscow in February, and decided “Pakistan would be punished and isolated by the West if Imran Khan remains in power.”

The public support for Imran Khan in Pakistan, however, cannot be denied. It cannot be denied by the new government, by other political parties, by state institutions, or by the Supreme Court. In fact, it cannot be denied by Pakistan’s allies across the world, including the United States.

Lawyer Saad Rasool explains why he believes the only way forward for Pakistan now is a general election.

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2022/4/14/imran-khan-did-not-violate-the-constitution

 

[MenInG]

PTI leader and former human rights minister Shireen Mazari on Friday said that former prime minister Imran Khan had not approached the military to help find a solution to the "political deadlock" in the country after a no-confidence motion was submitted against him.

It was the military that sought the meeting through then defence minister Pervez Khattak, Mazari said, adding that it was the military that put forward the three proposals – of the premier either facing the no-trust vote, resigning from his post or the opposition withdrawing the no-trust move and holding of fresh election thereafter.

"Let me be clear — I am stating on record [that the] PM did not call military for help on 'breaking political deadlock'," she tweeted today afternoon.


"The military sought the meeting through then Defence Minister Pervez Khattak and they put forward the 3 proposals of either PM resigning or taking part in VNC or fresh elections!" Mazari said.

Mazari's statements contradict military spokesman Maj Gen Babar Iftikhar's stance on the issue, which he put forth during a press briefing on Thursday.

When asked whether the military had approached the former premier and given him three options as had been revealed in an interview by Imran Khan, Gen Iftikhar denied this, adding that it was in fact the prime minister's office that had approached the army chief to find a solution to the political deadlock.

"It is unfortunate that our political leadership was not ready to talk to each other. So the army chief and the DG ISI went to the PMO and three scenarios were discussed," Gen Iftikhar had said.

These three scenarios were that the no-confidence motion should be held as it was, or that the prime minister resigned or that the no-confidence motion was retracted and then assemblies dissolved, Gen Iftikhar added.

"This third option was acceptable to the prime minister, and he asked us to talk to the [then] opposition on his behalf. So the army chief then went to the opposition, which at the time was PDM, and presented this request in front of them. And after discussion, the opposition said they did not want to take such a step and instead wanted to go ahead with what they had planned," the DG ISPR said.

"No option from the establishment was given," he clarified.

However, in a series of tweets today, Mazari said it "makes no sense" to assert that Imran Khan had himself given the option of resigning when he had "categorically and repeatedly" said he wouldn't resign.

"Why would Imran Khan give the option of resigning when he had already stated categorically and repeatedly he would never resign," the PTI leader asked.

"Also, Imran Khan had categorically rejected vote of no-confidence as foreign regime change conspiracy. So why would he suggest these options. Absurd!" she added.

Imran says 'establishment' gave him three options

A week before he was ousted, Imran Khan, in an interview with ARY News, had revealed that the "establishment" had given him three options: "resignation, no-confidence [vote] or elections", following the filing of a no-confidence motion against him in the National Assembly.

The former premier said that when he was presented with the three options, "We said elections is the best option, I cannot even think about resigning and as far as the no-confidence vote is concerned, I believe in fighting till the end."

The political crisis in the country emerged after the joint opposition — primarily the Pakistan Democratic Movement (PDM) and the PPP — submitted the no-confidence motion against the premier with the NA Secretariat on March 8.

In the days to follow, the country's political landscape was abuzz with activity as parties and individuals changed alliances and the PTI and opposition were seen trading barbs and allegations alongside intensifying efforts to ensure their success in the no-confidence contest.

Eventually, major allies of the ruling PTI — Balochistan Awami Party and Muttahida Qaumi Movement-Pakistan — deserted the government and joined the opposition ranks which led to PM Imran losing his majority in the lower house of parliament.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1685134/m...-proposals-to-break-political-deadlock-mazari

 

[cricketjoshila]

I agree with Joshillabhai's post. He is a good expert on constitutions and if he says its not treason then that's enough for me.

The speaker's ruling was unconstitutional, doesn't mean its Treason.

 

[MenInG]

ISLAMABAD: National Assembly Deputy Speaker Qasim Suri on Saturday resigned from his post ahead of voting on no-trust motion submitted against him by PML-N, ARY News reported.

The National Assembly Secretariat has received the resignation of Deputy Speaker Qasim Suri.

ARY

 

[daytrader]

Imran asks SC to review decision on Suri’s ruling

ISLAMABAD: While former prime minister and chairman PTI Imran Khan on Thursday approached the Supreme Court with a plea to recall its setting aside of the April 3 ruling of then deputy speaker of the National Assembly Qasim Suri on a no-trust move the apex court held contrary to the Constitution, President Dr Arif Alvi wrote to the chief justice of Pakistan requesting him to form a judicial commission to conduct open hearings and probe the allegations of a conspiracy to engineer regime change.

In its April 7 short order, the SC had declared that the no-trust resolution against former PM Khan be considered as still pending, therefore in case of a no-confidence motion, the former prime minister could not advise for the dissolution of the National Assembly.

Moved through advocates Imtiaz Rashid Siddiqui and Faisal Hussain Chaudhry under Article 188 of the Constitution — a provision that empowers the top court to revisit its earlier directions — the fresh petition argues that the short order was full of errors.

The petition argued that the apex court had erred for not appreciating Articles 66, 67 and 69 of the Constitution read with Article 248 which bars the superior court from interfering in the proceedings of parliament.

Alvi seeks judicial commission to probe regime change conspiracy in letter to CJP

These institutions are not subordinate and answerable to the jurisdiction of the SC due to the unequivocal bar of jurisdiction contained in the constitutional provisions, the petition argued.

While issuing the short order, the petition pleaded, the SC did not appreciate the mandate of the Constitution which ensures that parliament as well as the president and the prime minister were not answerable in exercise of their functions in the discharge of their constitutional obligations.

Thus the entire jurisdiction exercised by the apex court on April 7 is in violation of Article 175 of the Constitution, the petition emphasised.
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Former governor of Punjab Omer Sarfraz Cheema has announced approaching the court for registration of a high treason case against Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif under Article 6.

Moreover, he said the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) believed that the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) had ill intention during delimitation of constituencies.

In a post on social media, Mr Cheema said that it has been decided to get a case registered under Article 6 against prime minister at a relent forum/court. He said that prime minister and his son were continuously violating the Constitution in Punjab and were misusing the power.

“I will move a case against violation of constitution in a court of law,” Mr Cheema said.

It is worth mentioning that according to Article 6 any person who abrogates or subverts or suspends or holds in abeyance, or attempts or conspires to abrogate or subvert or suspend or hold in abeyance, the Constitution by use of force or show of force or by any other unconstitutional means shall be guilty of high treason. However, Majlis-i-Shoora (Parlia*m*ent) shall by law provide for the punishment of persons found guilty of high treason.

Meanwhile, PTI senior vice president Fawad Chaudhry on Monday alleged that the ECP had ill intention while doing delimitation of constituencies and claimed that any move in that regard would be illegal.

“All members of the ECP should be sent home,” he said while speaking to reporters outside the Supreme Court’s building.

He criticised PM Sharif and said that he had completed four foreign visits, but Pakistani rupee had lost ground against US dollar.

According to the PTI leader, next 72 hours will be crucial for the economy.

Similarly, former minister for planning and development Asad Umar said that all financial indicators were continuously showing negative trends.

Meanwhile, PTI chairman Imran Khan has condemned the action taken against Leader of the Oppo*sition in the Sindh Assembly Haleem Adil Sheikh and the registration of cases against him.

Published in Dawn, May 17th, 2022

 

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Maryam Nawaz asks SC why it didn't summon Qasim Suri for violating Constitution
Maryam says whenever a petition is filed in a court of law, people already know which bench will be formed to hear that

ISLAMABAD: PML-N Vice President Maryam Nawaz on Monday questioned the Supreme Court of Pakistan and asked why it did not summon former National Assembly deputy speaker Qasim Suri for violating the Constitution.

Speaking during a press conference in Islamabad flanked by several leaders of the coalition government and the Pakistan Democratic Movement (PDM), including Foreign Minister Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari and JUI-F chief Maulana Fazl ur Rehman, Maryam criticised the country's justice system and said that whenever a petition is filed in a court of law, people already know which bench will be formed to hear that.

At the beginning of the press briefing, which was organised ahead of the Supreme Court Session to decide the ruling of the Punjab Assembly Deputy Speaker Dost Mazari, Maryam said that a lot of people discouraged her from holding a press briefing right now as the government's appeal regarding the formation of a full bench to hear Mazari's case was under review at the top court.

On July 22, the much-awaited election for the chief minister of Punjab took a dramatic turn after PML-N's candidate Hamza Shahbaz successfully retained the province's top post, defeating Punjab Assembly Speaker Chaudhry Pervez Elahi with three votes. Following the counting of votes, Mazari, citing Article 63(A) of the Constitution, rejected 10 votes cast by PML-Q members. As a result, Hamza received 179 votes, while Elahi managed to bag 176 votes.

As a result, the PTI approached the SC against Mazari's decision, terming it "unconstitutional and illegal." The court, in turn, asked Mazari to issue a detailed response as to why he rejected the 10 votes of PML-Q members. A decision regarding the ruling will be made by the court today after considering Mazari's response.

The PML-N president, while criticising the country's judiciary, said that if the history of court decisions in Pakistan is reviewed, it would be a shocking revelation, adding that whenever institutions are subjected to insults, it is done from within and not by outside forces.

"One flawed ruling could blow up an entire case," she said. "If the right decisions are made, then criticism would hold no value."

Recalling past events, she said that as soon as Hamza Shahbaz was elected as the chief minister of Punjab, the PTI immediately approached the apex court.

"PTI members jumped the walls of the Supreme Court at nighttime and as a result, the doors of the court had to be opened at odd hours. The registrar rushed to the court, while a petition was not even prepared," she said.

Questioning the impartiality of the justice system, she said that whenever a petition is filed in a court of law, people already know which bench will be formed to hear that.

"If decisions are to be made in a one-sided manner, then there is no need to hold a court hearing at all. The [court should] hand over Punjab to Imran Khan without any legal proceedings," she said.

Justice not expected from current SC bench: Fazl
Taking over the press conference, Fazl said that he agreed with the pointers raised by Maryam and added that he did not expect justice from the current, three-member bench of the SC — headed by Chief Justice Umar Ata Bandial, and comprising Justice Ijaz Ul Ahsan and Justice Munib Akhtar.

"That's the reason we have been demanding a full bench to hear the case so that justice could be ensured," Fazl said, adding that the more consensus there is, the more we hope that the decision will be on merit.

You can't change Constitution due to Imran Khan's pressure: Bilawal
PPP chairperson Bilawal also stressed the need for a full bench to hear the case of the coalition government.

“This cannot happen that three people decide the fate of this country. Three people cannot decide on whether this country will run on a democratic, elected or selective system,” he said. "It cannot be possible that three people change Pakistan’s 1973 Constitution with just the stroke of a pen”.

He added that the judges cannot change the country's Constitution due to Imran Khan's pressure and reiterated the demand for a full bench.

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