Did Qatar try to hog the spot light by draping Messi with the robe?

[Major]

A lot of fans and news outlets not happy that the Qatari monarch tried to hog the spot light by draping Messi with a robe.

The initial world cup winning photos with the trophy are iconic, and the pics are shared forever. Messi's initial world cup winning pic had him draped in the traditional Arab robe that was gifted to him on the podium by the Head of state of Qatar.

During the celebrations, in a sea of blue, Messi was the only one with the robe.



My personal opinion is that, there was no need for it. It ruined the whole group photo and celebration. All squad members should be in their playing jerseys. I even hate it when families and kids are added in the teams initial celebration pics and vids.

 

[MenInG]

The robe given to Messi was an honour bestowed upon the best/respected people in the Arab tradition.

Always good to read about these things.

 

[SpiritOf1903]

It was an Arab custom used to honour and respect. No, it didn't. It's a bisht

Western world up in arms against Arab custom. Quelle surprise. Been damn offensive

Messi sold his soul to join PSG, the major piece in the Qatar puzzle that created the most remarkable finale.

Messi owes Qatar more than it owes him

 

[daytrader]

World Cup final: Lionel Messi lifts trophy in bisht - traditional Arab robe

It was an iconic moment that will live forever in World Cup history and Middle East imagery.

The great Lionel Messi was called up on stage to lift the trophy he had craved for so much of his glittering and unparalleled career.

At the other end of the podium were his Argentina team-mates, ready to party after overcoming France on penalties in one of the greatest finals ever witnessed.

At his end, Messi shook hands with Fifa president Gianni Infantino and Qatar's Emir Sheikh Tamim, who twice playfully clipped the 35-year-old round the head.

Messi was then adorned in a black bisht - a traditional men's cloak popular in the Arab world - before doing a jig and lifting the famous trophy.

Not only was it Messi's moment, but it was Qatar's too - on its national day, bringing to an end the first World Cup to be held in a Muslim country.

It may have been a big honour for Messi to be dressed in the Arab attire, but others have seen it as disrespectful and overshadowing the day he had been waiting for.

"It is a dress for an official occasion and worn for celebrations," Hassan Al Thawadi, secretary general of Qatar's tournament organising committee, told BBC Sport. "This was a celebration of Messi.

"The World Cup had the opportunity to showcase to the world our Arab and Muslim culture. This was not about Qatar, it was a regional celebration.

"People from different walks of life were able to come, experience what was happening here and get to understand that we may not see eye to eye on everything, but we can still celebrate together."

Sheikh Tamim said on Twitter: "We have fulfilled our promise to organise an exceptional championship from the Arab countries.

"It provided an opportunity for the peoples of the world to learn about the richness of our culture and the originality of our values."

BBC

 

[Major]

The robe given to Messi was an honour bestowed upon the best/respected people in the Arab tradition.

Always good to read about these things.

yes yes we all know the honor and tradition of the arabs.

Point being, did it hog the spot light? Because the iconic pic was ruined by it and the whole celebration vid looks odd. Its a team sport and the celebration videos look great with the players in their kits celebrating.

Africa has its traditions, many other countries have their traditions, but is it required to bombard the whole iconic moment with those cultural traditions?

I dont mind the robe, they could had gifted him the next day, or outside the stadium when the team was boarding the parade bus.

Its the iconic photo of the captain, raising the world cup for the first time as a player and than with his team.

 

[Mamoon]

I understand why some people are miffed about it & it is not just racism towards the Arabs. For a lot of people, it ruined the iconic picture of Messi lifting the trophy because his Argentinian shirt was not visible.

However, I beg to differ. It made his celebration very unique & different from all the other past captains. It was almost like he was crowned as the king of football which he is.

 

[Major]

"It is a dress for an official occasion and worn for celebrations," Hassan Al Thawadi, secretary general of Qatar's tournament organising committee, told BBC Sport. "This was a celebration of Messi.

"The World Cup had the opportunity to showcase to the world our Arab and Muslim culture. This was not about Qatar, it was a regional celebration.

Has to be the most b.s statement ever. We all know that Arab nations dont care about regional celebration as they are competing with one another. This was about Qatar..

Yes, they successfully concluded a world cup. They implemented their laws rightly so. But they over did it with the robe

 

[Mamoon]

yes yes we all know the honor and tradition of the arabs.

Point being, did it hog the spot light? Because the iconic pic was ruined by it and the whole celebration vid looks odd. Its a team sport and the celebration videos look great with the players in their kits celebrating.

Africa has its traditions, many other countries have their traditions, but is it required to bombard the whole iconic moment with those cultural traditions?

I dont mind the robe, they could had gifted him the next day, or outside the stadium when the team was boarding the parade bus.

It’s the iconic photo of the captain, raising the world cup for the first time as a player and then with his team.

The whole point of the robe was to give to the winning captain so that he can lift the World Cup looking like a royal. I don’t see it as a big issue. It was unique compared to previous World Cup celebrations.

 

[Major]

I understand why some people are miffed about it & it is not just racism towards the Arabs. For a lot of people, it ruined the iconic picture of Messi lifting the trophy because his Argentinian shirt was not visible.

However, I beg to differ. It made his celebration very unique & different from all the other past captains. It was almost like he was crowned as the king of football which he is.

yup that is also a good pov too. It did make him look different and showed him as the Emir of Football.

But would had loved his blue and white stripes more visible. Thank god they were playing with the iconic kit and not the kit from 2014.

People are abit sensitive to any criticism towards the arabs that alot of them think its racism.

 

[Mamoon]

yup that is also a good pov too. It did make him look different and showed him as the Emir of Football.

But would had loved his blue and white stripes more visible. Thank god they were playing with the iconic kit and not the kit from 2014.

People are abit sensitive to any criticism towards the arabs that alot of them think its racism.

Maradona’s most iconic image was not him lifting the trophy for the first time but when he was being carried by an Argentinian player on his shoulders & was lifting the trophy in the air.

Messi had the same celebration last night, it will become the most iconic image of his career.

Qatar did quite a few things differently last night. I especially liked how they switched off the lights in the stadium & used a spotlight in the center of the pitch for the ceremony. Very cool.

 

[MenInG]

To be fair, Major, the Trophy pic was not the place for the robe but I do not think there was anything sinister.

When you go to the Arab world there are many customs which we find odd but they find normal.

 

[Gilly]

Bit of a comedy show really, everyone trying hard to be the most offended.

 

[Savak]

Qatar were the hosts, they staged an iconic world class tournament which will be regarded as one of the best football WCs ever. They absolutely had every right to put their Arabic robe on Messi

 

[kingusama92]

I understand why some people are miffed about it & it is not just racism towards the Arabs. For a lot of people, it ruined the iconic picture of Messi lifting the trophy because his Argentinian shirt was not visible.

However, I beg to differ. It made his celebration very unique & different from all the other past captains. It was almost like he was crowned as the king of football which he is.

Yeah I thought it was kinda neat and symbolic. Almost like he got crowned GOAT at that moment.

 

[Kroll]

The image will add to the uniqueness of the occasion but quite a few pundits have pointed out the most iconic image was the one where he walked past and kissed the trophy.

 

[Aman]

From what I've read about the attire, it is an honor bestowed to royals and warriors who returned from war. For the Emir to place it over Messi in his crowning moment was fitting. Would have been good if they had explained this during the broadcast, more people would have been understanding and appreciative of the gesture.

The iconic photo for Messi will be him kissing the world cup. The photo of him being lifted was ruined because they left the presentation so late and fans had cleared stadiums.

Regardless, another opportunity will come when the team arrives back in Argentina and are greeted by fans.

 

[Technics 1210]

Nothing happens on stage without prior agreement, meaning the Bisht wasn't a surprise, it was discussed before hand.

Pele was awarded the sombrero when Brazil won the WC in Mexico.

Move on.

 

[BunnyRabbit]

A lot of fans and news outlets not happy that the Qatari monarch tried to hog the spot light by draping Messi with a robe.

The initial world cup winning photos with the trophy are iconic, and the pics are shared forever. Messi's initial world cup winning pic had him draped in the traditional Arab robe that was gifted to him on the podium by the Head of state of Qatar.

During the celebrations, in a sea of blue, Messi was the only one with the robe.



My personal opinion is that, there was no need for it. It ruined the whole group photo and celebration. All squad members should be in their playing jerseys. I even hate it when families and kids are added in the teams initial celebration pics and vids.

No. Really hate this anti Gulf propaganda.

 

[sweep_shot]

No.

Qatar didn't hog anything. They don't need to.

The robe should be a non-issue. If anything, I think the robe was cool. Something different.

 

[Kroll]

No.

Qatar didn't hog anything. They don't need to.

The robe should be a non-issue. If anything, I think the robe was cool. Something different.

That's fine for us lot, but most goray in the west whinging about it.

 

[sweep_shot]

That's fine for us lot, but most goray in the west whinging about it.

Who cares about goray?

There are 211 countries in the world. Not everything has to be about goray.

 

[Kroll]

Who cares about goray?

There are 211 countries in the world. Not everything has to be about goray.

Yeah, its only them whinging as they need to take pot shots at the Muslim world and can't stand the fact it was a very good and successful tournament.

Living in the west, this is all I am seeing.

 

[SalimBhai]

It’s just a robe. Move on

 

[DeadlyVenom]

I dont think western media can fall any further.

Most of their major teams got scudded so they need to ride the coat tails of the Argentinian and create faux outrage.

 

[Snow]

I thought it looked cool like he was the leader of the squad and you could see jersey as well within it. Not everything has to be an Issue.

 

[sweep_shot]

I thought it looked cool like he was the leader of the squad and you could see jersey as well within it. Not everything has to be an Issue.

Indeed.

People who think it is an issue clearly have inferiority complex or too much time at hands.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Maradona’s most iconic image was not him lifting the trophy for the first time but when he was being carried by an Argentinian player on his shoulders & was lifting the trophy in the air.

Messi had the same celebration last night, it will become the most iconic image of his career.

Qatar did quite a few things differently last night. I especially liked how they switched off the lights in the stadium & used a spotlight in the center of the pitch for the ceremony. Very cool.

The iconic image I think will be him kissing the trophy after collecting the golden ball

 

[RexRex]

Indeed.

People who think it is an issue clearly have inferiority complex or too much time at hands.

He should have taken off the robe respectfully before lifting the trophy. Imagine if this WC was held in India and this was Modi trying to force captain Messi into a lungi during the awards ceremony. Everybody here on PP would laugh at the spectacle, some would be furious.

 

[sweep_shot]

He should have taken off the robe respectfully before lifting the trophy. Imagine if this WC was held in India and this was Modi trying to force captain Messi into a lungi during the awards ceremony. Everybody here on PP would laugh at the spectacle, some would be furious.

Nothing wrong with a lungi provided there is something underneath.

He shouldn't have taken off anything.

 

[Kianig89]

That pic is iconic looks something superficial from Lalaland

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

it was a gift, and a show of respect and honour for Messi. I don't think it looked great, but big deal. When someone makes a nice gesture, you smile and accept it - which he did to be fair. All the fuss seems to be coming from outsiders.

 

[sweep_shot]

All the fuss seems to be coming from outsiders.

Yes. Argentinians themselves aren't complaining. They are too busy celebrating the win.

This shouldn't be a big issue really.

 

[James]

 

[James]

Crazy that this is even a story.

For the record I thought it looked very nice.

 

[Zaz]

Crazy that this is even a story.

For the record I thought it looked very nice.

Its another way to criticise the hosts and drag them down Theres been an agenda at play since day one to potray them negatively in the media to the world

How dare they run a successful trouble free world cup

 

[Gollum]

Last bout of crying and moaning from racist Western media about what proved to be the most successful World Cup ever on and off the pitch.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Nothing happens on stage without prior agreement, meaning the Bisht wasn't a surprise, it was discussed before hand.

Pele was awarded the sombrero when Brazil won the WC in Mexico.

Move on.

I wonder if idiots like Gary Linker know this or basic football history.

Lets be frank here, the reason they are upset is Europe/USA have been humiliated. The final humilation was the best player wearing their cultural attire while 4 billion watching around the world. Their whole propaganda fell apart so much Israel suffered as a backlash with Palestine being promoted.

West should learn from this, keep their mouths shut when sport is on.

Im assuming Roy Keane is back in Dublin drowning in Guinness shivering with cold.

 

[SalimBhai]

The robe thing is ridiculous. It was a great gesture Read up on what it symbolizes. However to say Qatar was the best best world cup is far fetched . Great final yes. This will be the World Cup with the biggest financial loss ever once it’s all calculated

 

[Technics 1210]

I wonder if idiots like Gary Linker know this or basic football history.

Lets be frank here, the reason they are upset is Europe/USA have been humiliated. The final humilation was the best player wearing their cultural attire while 4 billion watching around the world. Their whole propaganda fell apart so much Israel suffered as a backlash with Palestine being promoted.

West should learn from this, keep their mouths shut when sport is on.

Im assuming Roy Keane is back in Dublin drowning in Guinness shivering with cold.

I agree, the West just couldn't stomach a victory for the Arab world by hosting what is already being dubbed the best WC ever, and on top of this, the awareness of Palestine was bestowed around the globe, something the ZMSM do not control!

 

[Aman]

That pic is iconic looks something superficial from Lalaland

A royal crowned Messi the King of Football.

 

[happydavy]

I am not surprised that most PPers find it perfectly fine and a few even lauding Qatar for it because i think for Pakistanis in general self respect always come after money. Qatar hired Pakistan's cops for the world cup, threw some dollars and Pakistanis can't find anything wrong with Qatar now. For most others, it was unnecessary and could have been done later rather than before the photo ops. You organized the WC, how much more attention do you need that you putting your attire on someone in the final moment.

 

[MenInG]

I am not surprised that most PPers find it perfectly fine and a few even lauding Qatar for it because i think for Pakistanis in general self respect always come after money. Qatar hired Pakistan's cops for the world cup, threw some dollars and Pakistanis can't find anything wrong with Qatar now. For most others, it was unnecessary and could have been done later rather than before the photo ops. You organized the WC, how much more attention do you need that you putting your attire on someone in the final moment.

In India, if someone as a mark of respect puts one of your traditional shawls on a guest, does that mean he is disrespecting you?

Try and think of this from a cultural pov.

 

[happydavy]

In India, if someone as a mark of respect puts one of your traditional shawls on a guest, does that mean he is disrespecting you?

Try and think of this from a cultural pov.

From a visiting dignitary perspective its a mark of respect for visiting the country, or when you are honoring someone on behalf of your country. World Cup final match is a fifa event and a global event and to bring host country traditions before the major photo op looked too cringeworthy. Having said that, like i said in my previous post, it just appears wrong and not something criminal or immoral. But my issue was with posters who were applauding it, that part I found strange.

 

[daytrader]

IMO the gesture added colour and culture to the global tournament. Would be lovely to see future host nations displaying their traditions in such ways.

 

[MenInG]

The shot of the Argentine star Lionel Messi wearing the Qatari "bisht" during the coronation ceremony of the 2022 Qatar World Cup still dominates events and social media platforms and enjoys wide momentum in the Arab world and internationally.

In a unique offer, Ahmed Al Barwani, a member of the Omani Shura Council and former Vice President of the Lawyers Association, asked Argentine legend, Messi, to buy the bisht for $1 million.

Al-Barwani wrote through his account documented on Twitter [MENTION=3224]ahmed[/MENTION]SAlbarwani: “My friend Messi. from the Sultanate of Oman, I congratulate you for winning the Qatar World Cup 2022. His Highness Emir Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani impressed me when he dressed you in the Arab Bisht, a symbol of Arab magnanimity. Messi, I offer you a million dollars in exchange for giving me that bisht."

Messi's wearing of the bisht during the coronation ceremony also prompted the Argentine fans to flock to the shops selling the bisht in Souq Waqif, to buy the bisht, as a memorial to their country's coronation in the 2022 World Cup in Qatar.

Social media pioneers shared videos showing a number of Argentine fans wearing "bisht" in Souq Waqif.

An Argentine fan said, wearing a bisht like Messi, "I think that Arabs wear it to look cool. It symbolizes pride and when a person wears it, he feels strong," while another said, "For us, the bisht will be a wonderful memory that will remain with us throughout our lives."

https://www.msn.com/en-ae/sports/fi...sedgntp&cvid=d60957981e4940429be1aa4731820642

 

[sweep_shot]

I am not surprised that most PPers find it perfectly fine and a few even lauding Qatar for it because i think for Pakistanis in general self respect always come after money. Qatar hired Pakistan's cops for the world cup, threw some dollars and Pakistanis can't find anything wrong with Qatar now. For most others, it was unnecessary and could have been done later rather than before the photo ops. You organized the WC, how much more attention do you need that you putting your attire on someone in the final moment.

Stupid post.

Qatar was being lauded for being great hosts. Nothing more.

Only a salty or a racist person would think otherwise.

BTW, Qatar employ many Indians.