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Differences b/w Hindi and Urdu??

you can start with the script.

one's arabic the other lord knows. sanskrit?
 
Urdu - mujhe, tujhe.

Hindi - mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko
 
AZ said:
Urdu - mujhe, tujhe.

Hindi - mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko
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That is not standard Hindi.That is the kind of Hindi people speak in Mumbai.
 
AZ said:
Urdu - mujhe, tujhe.

Hindi - mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko
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:)))
Mere ko hasao mat zada

This should be in the language forum :13:
 
The most important difference is that Urdu has heavy Persian words,while Hindi gets a lot from Sanskrit.An between these two extreme versions is another one called the "Hindustani dialect".
 
Fattooo ho tum. Jindagi mai tere se jyada fatooo larka naeee dekha. :D

Urdu- Aap buzdil hain. Zindagi mai aapse zyada buzdil nawjawan nahi dekha.

^Clearly we're more polite :D
 
AZ said:
Urdu - mujhe, tujhe.

Hindi - mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko mere ko tere ko
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Mujhe, Tumhe is proper Hindi.
 
Both are great languages but are sadly spoilt by their speakers:(. Being from Pakistan Urdu was not that tough but it takes to to be able to read its script:22:.

As for those who think Hindi isn´t a polite language, please read the conversation from the following thread......

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=70536

To fulfill the purpose of this thread, please check this thread to discover probably the biggest difference between the two languages......

DHONI183 said:
Online dictionaries suggest otherwise then why is it pronounced that way? An example possibly is the word "Phool" ('flower') from Urdu which is called "Fool" in Hindi. "Phir" becomes "Fir" and so on.

Just thought that it was an interesting thing to ask about:13:.........

P.S.: Another interesting thing is the usage of "Z" and "J" absolutely contrary to Urdu. For example, "Darwaaza" ('door') as "Darwaaja" in Hindi, and "Jadojehadd" ('struggle'?) as "Zadozehadd".
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http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=130876
 
no if you speak hindi with sanskrit words , it does not sound indecent at all .


but Urdu is just more sophisticated and a beautiful , poetic language . many hindus and sikhs have made great contribution to it . initially , they started off as the same language , of course , but politics led to Urdu becoming more of a part of identity of the Muslims of both India and Pakistan .

anyhow , is it just me or sanskrit sounds a lot like farsi when spoken ? :kami
 
For proper Hindi language watch episodes of Mahabharta online :)
 
^Dhoni is fooling us with the help of google translator :D
 
AZ said:
Dhoni183 - have you actually learnt Hindi?
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Well,..... "learnt" is not exactly the word here as I haven´t been taught by anyone. Just my passion to gather knowledge on different languages helps me. Watching Hindi channels helped as well and particularly their commentary of cricket matches. That´s all:19:!

freelance_cricketer said:
^Dhoni is fooling us with the help of google translator :D
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Go and read the following thread and.......

http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=70536

...... you will apologize for your blasphemous comments:26:.
 
Mahabharat series was filled with urdu words because the script writer's native language was urdu (Rahi Masoom Raza).
Ramayan series used proper hindi.
 
There is no such thing as a polite language. Is French more polite than English or vice versa? It depends on the person speaking the language, their education level etc.
 
Seen Sheen said:
Offtopic again: Well that's interesting!There are quite a few hindi/sansikrit words which Urdu speaking people find difficult to understand and as you've mentioned same is the case with Hindi speakers with difficult urdu words. Are Hindi and Sansikrit written the same way and can average Hindi speaker read Urdu?

Should discuss this in language forum. :adnan
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Hindi and Sanskrit are written using the same script. Average Hindi speaker can not read Urdu because of different script..but can understand it unless some difficult words are being used.. that is why for a hindi speaker urdu is the easiest language to learn..all you have to do it to learn the script (which is the easy part) and then build on your vocabulary..no need to learn any grammar
 
Ranvir said:
There is no such thing as a polite language. Is French more polite than English or vice versa? It depends on the person speaking the language, their education level etc.
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true but not sure if a good education level makes a person polite or vice versa
 
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I think there's a lot of differences in Urdu and Hindi, like there is in different Arabic languages.

As said before Urdu uses a lot more Persian and Arabic words and sentence builders than Hindi does. Hindi has a lot more Sanskritised dialect. The common man Urdu and Hindi seems very alike an they really are, but if you go to the depth of both hindi and urdu one understands how different they can be.

One example could be like, the term politics. While the Urdu speaking says Siyasat the Hindi speaking populations tend to go over to the Sanskrit and say Rajniti

Another example could be the honorary titles in the different countries.

Wazee-r-Azam - Pardhan Mantri
Wazeer-e-Dakhla - Girih Mantri
Sadr - Rashtra Pati
Nayab-Sadr - Up-Rashtrapati
Wazeer-e-Ala - Mukhya-Mantri
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[Fact Box]
Hindi is written from left to right in the Devanagari script.
Urdu is written from right to left in a modified Persian-Arabic script called Nasta’liq.
Hindi uses vocabulary from Sanskrit.
Urdu uses vocabulary from Persian and Arabic.

// I myself have not wirtting this, its just a copy paste that i found interesting :akhtar
 
DanishJamil said:
Hindi: Bhai kia rapchik maal hai

:)))
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بھائ جان یہ حندی نہیں سڑک چھات بمبئیہ حندی ہہ
Bhaa'ii jaan yeh Hindi nahiin sadak chhaap bambaiyaa Hindi hai!

Salaam from Bangalore!
 
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Chhaatr said:
بھائ جان یہ حندی نہیں سڑک چھات بمبئیہ حندی ہہ
Bhaa'ii jaan yeh Hindi nahiin sadak chhaap bambaiyaa Hindi hai!

Salaam from Bangalore!
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Completely agreed! Hindi in its pure form is quite a sweet language.
 
withlovefrom vizag said:
I m desperate to know.....
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To find the difference
type..........
what is your name?.........read in Hindi Tumhārā nāma kyā hai? / तुम्हारा नाम क्या है? آپ کا نام کیا ہے؟

http://translate.google.com/#auto/hi/what is your name?

try some other words you like and see the difference.
Have a fun.

Hindi and Urdu are same grammatical languages.

Urdu contains more Arabic /Persian words while Hindi contains more Sanskrit words.

Both Hindi and Urdu can easily be written in India's simplest horizontal lines free Gujarati (Gujanagari) script.

Wasn't Gujarati a Mr.Jinnah's mother tongue language?

ક ખ ગ ઘ છ છ જ ઝ ટ ઠ ડ ઢ ણ
ત થ દ ધ ન પ ફ બ ભ મ ય ર લ વ
શ સ ષ હ ળ ક્ષ જ્ઞ ક્ષ જ્ઞ
ક કા કિ કી કુ કૂ કૅ કે કૈ કૉ કો કૌ કં કઃ
અ આ ઇ ઈ ઉ ઊ ઍ એ ઐ ઑ ઓ ઔ અં અઃ..............Gujarati(Gujanagari)

क ख ग घ छ छ ज झ ट ठ ड ढ ण
त थ द ध न प फ ब भ म य र ल व
श स ष ह ळ क्ष ज्ञ क्ष ज्ञ
क का कि की कु कू कॅ के कै कॉ को कौ कं कः
अ आ इ ई उ ऊ ऍ ए ऐ ऑ ओ औ अं अः.....................Hindi(devanagari)

ka kha ga gha Cha Cha ja jha Ta Tha Da Dha Na
ta tha da dha na pa pha ba bha ma ya ra la va
sha sa Sha ha La kSha j~na kSha j~na
ka kA ki kI ku kU k^ae ke kai k^ao ko kau kaM kaH
a A i I u U ^ae e ai ^ao o au aM aH ..........................ITRANS

کَ کھَ گَ گھَ چھَ چھَ جَ جھَ ٹَ ٹھَ ڈَ ڈھَ نَ
تَ تھَ دَ دھَ نَ پَ پھَ بَ بھَ مَ یَ رَ لَ وَ
شَ سَ شَ ہَ لَ کْشَ جْنَ کْشَ جْنَ
کَ کا کِ کِی کُ کُو کے کے کَے کا کو کَو کَں کَح
اَ آ اِ اِی اُ اُو اے اے اَے آ او اَو اَں اَح



Which script is easy to learn ? Why?
Hamari Boli can be written in any script not just in Devanagari script.
 
Completely agreed with you my friend. Urdu mostly derived from Persian and Arabic. And hindi solely from Sanskrit. Yet I am confused their words resemble so much.

msd89 said:
The most important difference is that Urdu has heavy Persian words,while Hindi gets a lot from Sanskrit.An between these two extreme versions is another one called the "Hindustani dialect".
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Urdu samosa
Hindi
Samosa
Sanskrit sampushp

sent from dil se
 
Most of the languages are derived from sansjrit

sent from dil se
 
Aren't both modern Urdu and Hindi artificial creations , extracted from the Hindustani language after partition ?
 
While living with muslims who speak urdu for centuries hindi is also changed and almmost like urdu but there was a time when you could not even understand a single word of hindi. They even wrote it in Sanskrit so that it should not be written in arabic.
 
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Difference? There is one major difference. How about one is a real language, while the other was invented in 1881.

Urdu has been around since roughly the 15th century. There are centuries of history behind Urdu both in terms of literature and poetry. Hindi is a *******ization of Urdu concocted in 1881 by radical North Indian Hindu extremists who didn't like why Urdu was declared an official language of British India. Remember, following the failed 1857 War of Independence, the British were of the opinion that the "uprising" was mainly a Muslim led event. Several recommendations were made following the Hunter Commission was included banning Persian.

The banning of Persian gave rise to Urdu (also known as Hindustani). This language was always written using Nastaliq (Persian-Urdu) script. The term "Hindi" was also sometimes used to define this language in the Delhi region during the time of Mirza Ghalib. Essentially Hindustani or Hindi all meant > URDU before 1880.

The reason why "modern hindi" came into being (I use citations because I don't regard it as a real language) is because Urdu's Nastaliq script was seen as a reminder of previous Muslim rule of the subcontinent, which radical right wing North Indian Hindus resented. I'm specifically saying North Indian Hindus, not Hindus from Bengal or South India or anywhere else so calm down.

By 1880, they came up with "modern hindi"...essentially Urdu's traditional Nastaliq script was replaced with Devangari script and many Persian based words were replaced with Sanskrit based words. That's how hindi was born.

Proof? Go ahead and try and find a single piece of hindi literature written before 1850....you can't find any. Why? Because that language didn't exist. And this isn't me saying this....ask any non-Hindi speaker in India. Infact they make this claim more stronger than some silly Pakistanis who claim it's the same language. It's not...one is real, the other is fake. Ask people from Tamil Nadu, Kerela and Andra...they all despise Hindi because they don't regard it as a real language.

Hindi is basically Sanskritized Urdu born out of religious hatred.

There's your history lesson for the day.

PS: hindi just sounds weird. (ie. jindabad? sabjee? padosi? ladke?) df?
 
Wowqar said:
Difference? There is one major difference. How about one is a real language, while the other was invented in 1881.

Urdu has been around since roughly the 15th century. There are centuries of history behind Urdu both in terms of literature and poetry. Hindi is a *******ization of Urdu concocted in 1881 by radical North Indian Hindu extremists who didn't like why Urdu was declared an official language of British India. Remember, following the failed 1857 War of Independence, the British were of the opinion that the "uprising" was mainly a Muslim led event. Several recommendations were made following the Hunter Commission was included banning Persian...
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Wrong, and wrong again.

The grammar of Urdu is based on Sanskrit. Urdu is a descendant language of Sanskrit (like Hindi, Bengali, Punjabi, Gujarati, Marathi etc.) with lots of Persian and Arabic loan words and an imported script.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urdu

[Urdu is a persianized and standardised register of the Hindustani language... Urdu, like Hindi, is a form of Hindustani.[17] It evolved from the medieval (6th to 13th century) Apabhraṃśa register of the preceding Shauraseni language, a Middle Indo-Aryan language that is also the ancestor of other modern Indo-Aryan languages, including the Punjabi dialects. ]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindustani_language

[It is an Indo-Aryan language, deriving its base primarily from the Khariboli dialect of Delhi, and incorporates a large amount of vocabulary from Sanskrit, Persian, Arabic and Chagatai.]

The script that Urdu is currently written in is not of Indo-European origin.

Educate yourself about yourself!
 
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Both Urdu and Hindi have the same language origins. ... The main difference between the two languages is their association. Hindi is a language used and spoken by Hindi people, the native and leading population of India. On the other hand, Urdu is associated with Pakistan and Muslims.

The two languages have very different scripts. Urdu uses the Nastaliq script, which is written from left to right While on the other hand Hindi uses the Devanagari script.



A lot of words are different. Grammar-wise, they are pretty much the same. As a result, many Urdu words are commonly used replaceably (is it an actual word? :/) in Hindi. You can find many examples of this in Bollywood songs. Most speakers of both languages can understand the other without much difficulty.

"Pure" Hindi leans towards Sanskrit whereas "pure" Urdu tends towards Persian.
 
Grammer of both Urdu and Hindi is derived from Devnagri.
Replace the nouns in Urdu with Arabic/Persian while the same could be replaced by Hindi/Sanskrit/etc in Hindi.

for example replace pani aka water with jal in Hindi
 
I think Urdu has naturally evolved, while Hindi is an artificially created language, which is being supported by Hindu nationalists, who want to differentiate themselves some how.

I think this Hindu nationalist mentality would lead to sub-nationalism, that would divide India, and may give rise to internal conflict within India.

I think in its extreme form, it would be Hindu facism, that would eventually destroy India.

Though, I hope India reforms itself, and does not fall to Hindu fascist nationalism.
 
Urdu and Hindi have the same grammatical structure. They are both offspring of Sanskrit. Urdu has many loan words from persian and some passive voice like structures. For example deewan-e-khas.
 
What do they teach about language history in Pakistan? This thread makes me sad. Really really sad.
 
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