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HYDERABAD: Discarded Pakistani duo of Salman Butt and Kamran Akmal observed here on Thursday that neighbouring India displays more consistency in providing opportunities to their cricketers compared to Pakistan where the players get hastily picked and dropped the similar way.

They further emphasised that only performance of the players in domestic circuit should be the base and criterion for selection and if the coaches and the selectors focus on that “our team would never fare badly.”

“India shows more consistency in allowing their players to play top level cricket,” said former Pakistani skipper Salman while sharing his views at a reception hosted in his honour and Kamran’s by the Hyderabad Press Club here (HPC) on Thursday. “Rohit Sharma’s batting average was hardly 25 or 30 but the Indians persisted with him to make Sharma a world class player.”

Salman reckoned that domestic circuit need to have high scoring pitches to help batsmen play longer innings. “This will groom them to stay on the crease for a longer period,” he said.

He added this could be achieved by making sporting pitches favouring both batsmen and bowlers while presently the matches weren’t going beyond two days. “The ratio of drawn matches is nil whereas domestic matches in India often last the full distance or are decided on first innings lead basis,” said the left-hander. “If one side scores 700 other in Indian domestic matches, the other responds with a score of 550 to 600. It helps their batsmen develop the technique and maintain their form,” he said.

“Unless our batsmen post 200 or 300 runs individually in our local matches, they won’t be able to groom themselves for Test cricket,” argued Salman. “After you identify a player’s potential you have to stick with him, but in Pakistan we often induct players in haste and drop them abruptly too,” he lamented.

Wicket-keeper batsman Kamran pointed out that the introduction of the ‘Duke’ ball in domestic matches is not giving good results and won’t help the batsmen to build their innings. “Our batting line-ups stand exposed to the Duke ball and barring a few players, everyone seems to be struggling. Batsmen will have to learn how to stay on the pitch for longer periods but that is not happening,” he noted.

When asked why he was being ignored for national team selection despite scoring heavily in domestic cricket for the past few years, Kamran said the selectors and coach could answer this question better.

“In the last three to four years, the Pakistan team has undergone various experiments in batting which at one time had put us under threat of playing pre-qualifiers for the World Cup,” he said. “Why India has remained a top tanking side is because they don’t go for frequent changes. They avoid chop and change even if they lose a few matches. India kept faith with Sachin [Tendulkar], [Virender] Sehwag or [Rahul] Dravid till the last and managed to groom [Virat] Kohli, Rohit [Sharma] and [Shikhar] Dhawan,” he argued.

“A team never performs with six to seven players. Players should quit when time is up for them or the way Younis Khan and Misbahul Haq left. Seniors should be given selected matches and this is how a player is produced and team is built. We have expelled players en-block to make team suffer,” said Kamran.

He said the criteria for selection should be domestic cricket. “Everyone knows who is fit and performing in domestic circuit and if coach and selectors focus on this, our team won’t suffer that much”, he remarked.

Salman pointed out that he has also gone through the rehab phase and, since Amir is playing, the PCB or selectors could be asked why he is being ignored.

He also sounded critical of Ramiz Raja’s comments about him. “I don’t want to comment on it. It is, however, disappointing to see him [Ramiz] discuss things that are not his domain,” he said. “If someone is in a habit of bringing up issues, then he should talk about everyone, regardless of the person. But it should not be like that you discuss someone because you know the person won’t hit back but you remain silent where you feel it will have a backlash,” said Salman.

He also called for raising playing/ living standards of players in domestic circuit in order to narrow the gap between standards of international and domestic cricket. “The less is the difference, the easier a player will be groomed,” he observed.

The former captain termed Pakistan Super League as cricket’s showcase as it gives a chance for Pakistan players to share dressing room with international players and watch their routine and practice techniques and that is going to benefit the youngsters.

Kamran, who recently scored a double ton at the Niaz Stadium, said the upcoming New Zealand series would indeed be tough and the matches will be exciting. “Pakistan has won two series against them in recent years and if the team spirit remains and we play to our potential, we will beat the Kiwis,” he said.

Kamran added that the selectors have chosen the best side considering New Zealand conditions and hoped they would perform well. “When tour will end everyone will know how good was the selection [of players].”

Both the players praised the PCB, army and security agencies for the arrangements to bring international cricket to Pakistan. “But it is still difficult to see teams playing entire series here,” they said.

For the Niaz Stadium, they said floodlights should be installed there immediately.

On Sharjeel Khan’s case, both Salman and Kamran said that it was very unfortunate for Pak*istan’s cricket to lose a player of his ability. “But the players should take care of their off field behaviour to and must not indulge in corruption of any sort.”
 
Kamran Akmal's statements are reasonable. But Salman Butt needs to stop bickering about how he should be selected and merits a place in team. He was never a good enough Test batsman and neither is now. As for ODI openers, there are already Fakhar, Azhar, Imam with Umar Amin as the reserve. ODI cricket has moved forward and there is only place for an accumulator opener, and Azhar and Imam are ahead of him.
 
Butt has a point.

We cannot be selective about this

If PCB are not happy with Butt (due to his role in the whole affair and constant denials which Amir did not do) , then say it and throw him out of cricket.
 
Butt has a point.

We cannot be selective about this

If PCB are not happy with Butt (due to his role in the whole affair and constant denials which Amir did not do) , then say it and throw him out of cricket.
Butt has had an average first-class season. He has sat on every TV channel since the end of the QEA trophy and blasted the PCB for not selecting him. He sounds entitled to be honest and frankly that makes me sick. If performance should always be the criteria, as he repeatedly says, then there are more deserving players than Butt at the moment. Butt is cleverly using this angle of discrimination to make waves in the media when in fact there are better performers than him on the first-class circuit at this point
 
Kamran Akmal moaning about the Dukes ball is not surprising given his lousy record facing it at international level.

Most domestic players have supported the move.

As for Salman Butt, just the daily self-entitled whining from him we've come to expect.
 
Why does this guy keep giving interviews? It's 2018, who even cares about what this dude has to say anymore.
 
Salman Butt, Kamran Akmal ask Pakistan selectors to learn from India

Salman Butt, Kamran Akmal Ask Pakistan Selectors To Learn From India

Butt and Kamran also felt that one reason for Pakistani not producing the same quality batting as India was because of the inconsistent nature of pitches used in the first class matches.

Edited by Dattaraj Thaly

Updated: 05 January 2018 15:54 IST

Former Pakistan captain Salman Butt and discarded wicketkeeper-batsman Kamran Akmal have called on Pakistan selectors to show the same consistency as their Indian counterparts do while picking the national team. Butt and Kamran feel that Indian selectors, compared to their Pakistani counterparts, show more consistency in giving chances to their players.

"India shows more consistency in allowing their players to play top-level cricket," Butt noted.
"Rohit Sharma's batting average was around 25 and 30 at one stage but the Indian selectors gave him consistent chances and today he has become a world class performer," Butt said.

Butt and Kamran also felt that one reason for Pakistani not producing the same quality batting as India was because of the inconsistent nature of pitches used in the first class matches.

"You need to have pitches in domestic cricket where batsmen can build their innings and stay for long. This is only way to give them confidence and prepare them for international cricket," Kamran said.

He noted that in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy, the premier first class event that just concluded, there were atleast 20 instances where teams were bowled out for less than 100 runs because of the pitches at different venues.

Butt and Kamran also noted that domestic cricket performances should be sole criteria for picking national teams.

They pointed out that if players who regularly do well in domestic cricket are not given consistent chances to become good international players, then Pakistan cricket growth will be affected.

The two test players said in recent years there were many instances where players were picked and dropped without getting proper chances at the international level.

(With inputs from PTI)

Link: https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/sal...akistan-selectors-to-learn-from-india-1796309
 
How many more chances these two want?
 
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Ramiz initially was anti Mohammad Amir.

Then Ramiz became pro Mohammad Amir after he put in a couple of good performances.
 
Kamran has had his chances at the international level and proved to be a failure - some people have an upper limit and his is domestic level. G Hick and M Ramprakash are other examples of amazing domestic cricketers but failed at the highest level. Kamran is not even half as good as those guys even at domestic standards.

Regardless of how he performs at domestic level he has been given ample of international chances and his record shows he is not up to it. There is nothing new to learn here - move on!
 
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Ramiz initially was anti Mohammad Amir.

Then Ramiz became pro Mohammad Amir after he put in a couple of good performances.

Or he just realised that its hard to be against a prominent pak player when you are the most prominent pak commentator
 
Ramiz initially was anti Mohammad Amir.

Then Ramiz became pro Mohammad Amir after he put in a couple of good performances.

Ramiz is not pro Amir at all, he still feels Amir should not have been allowed to play for Pakistan again regardless of his performances.

I am not a fan of Ramiz's holier than thou or unforgiving stance but he has been consistent in his views.
 
Ramiz initially was anti Mohammad Amir.

Then Ramiz became pro Mohammad Amir after he put in a couple of good performances.

The real question Ramiz should have been asked is why does he remain mum against his Qayyum Report buddies i.e. Wasim, Waqar, Inzi, Mushtaq e.t.c. The report specifically mentioned they should never be allowed to be in any coaching position or position of leadership in the PCB or Pakistani team.
 
The real question Ramiz should have been asked is why does he remain mum against his Qayyum Report buddies i.e. Wasim, Waqar, Inzi, Mushtaq e.t.c. The report specifically mentioned they should never be allowed to be in any coaching position or position of leadership in the PCB or Pakistani team.
Excellent point. I guess hypocrisy is a part of us humans. We all do it at some level or at some point in our lives. Otherwise we would be angels..
 
Butt has a point.

We cannot be selective about this

If PCB are not happy with Butt (due to his role in the whole affair and constant denials which Amir did not do) , then say it and throw him out of cricket.

PCB don’t have or even need to say anything. They don’t need to explain themselves for not selecting a player. Especially an aging player like Butt who is only moderately above average as a domestic batsmen
 
I wholeheartedly support Salman Butt and his immediate return to the Test side. This guy is some serious talent and is defintely better than our current rotating openers (Ahmed Shehzad, Sami Aslam, Shan Masood). Our Test openers should be Salman Butt and Kamran Akmal (with Azhar demoted to number 3).
 
I agree with him, what Pakistan needs to learn first and foremost is how India treats its match fixers.
 
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