Do extraterrestrial civilizations exist?

[Chrish]

A subject I have been deeply fascinated by lately.

Do you think extraterrestrial intelligent life exists that can match/ suppress humans? Statistically the answer should be: YES! Trillions of galaxies etc.

However some scientists feel the circumstances under which life like ours can be formed are so unlikely that Earth might be the only planet in WHOLE universe that has it!!!

What’s your take ?

 

[troodon]

There are billions of galaxies and each Galaxy has Billions of stars. The chance of finding life to me has a higher probability in this entire universe.

We might as well find life on the Saturn's icy moon Enceladus. It is supposed to have a huge ocean underneath the icy crust.

Now finding intelligent life on exo-planets is a different thing. Probability is low for that. There might be a few civilizations out there. But they might be too far away from us to even think of reaching us.

Also, considering how universe is expanding since big bang, the distance between galaxies is only increasing by the minute. Out best chance to encounter intelligent life will be in our own Milkyway Galaxy. Even to find out if it is there, we need to travel faster than light to have a chance of meeting them and coming back.

Definitely not in the next 100 years.

 

[ToeCrusher2]

However some scientists feel the circumstances under which life like ours can be formed are so unlikely that Earth might be the only planet in WHOLE universe that has it!!!

Who are those scientist who feel that? Spill some names

 

[Chrish]

Who are those scientist who feel that? Spill some names

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

 

[Robert]

Yes but the distances are so vast that two civilisations are unlikely to meet.

 

[Black Zero]

No

 

[Varun]

Yes but the distances are so vast that two civilisations are unlikely to meet.

There is also the question of time - intelligent civilizations might have existed on other planets well before the first humans on earth.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

There are unlimited options.

 

[Syed1]

You also have to realize that the universe is billions of earth years old. There may have been civilizations that may have been there before but died down now. However, I think there is alien life out there, but they might not be intelligent beings like us.

Also humans are looking for life based on what they know about life, that is, it needs water to survive and oxygen to breath. Those rules might not apply on alien life. For all we know alien life might thrive in methane, for example.

 

[Chrish]

Theoretically it's possible that God whom everyone worships represents one of those highly advanced civilizations that has shattered the Scientific/ technological barrier we know of today.

 

[TM Riddle]

Fermi's paradox.

 

[Rayyman]

Don't think there are humans or creatures similar.

Definitely there can be animals though.

Or even beings that exist, but aren't visible to the naked eye; i.e. ghosts.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

Don't think there are humans or creatures similar.

Definitely there can be animals though.

Or even beings that exist, but aren't visible to the naked eye; i.e. ghosts.

I think there is more chance of parrots than Elefants. You know because parrots can fly and maybe they have flown into our earth from somewhere else?

 

[Rayyman]

I think there is more chance of parrots than Elefants. You know because parrots can fly and maybe they have flown into our earth from somewhere else?

I say animals because humans are a type of animal.

It would be rare to find an animal on another planet, but the chances of finding a particular species of animals is close to none.

 

[Robert]

There is also the question of time - intelligent civilizations might have existed on other planets well before the first humans on earth.

Sure, in first generation star systems before ours formed.

 

[Stewie]

@OP

Look up Fermi’s paradox. This topic is a personal fav of mine and I have some different views on the topic but FP is a good start!

 

[Mamoon]

I hope so.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Yes.I’m not sure if intelligent,sentient life exists but I think it’s impossible that in so many galaxies,that Earth is the only planet which hosts life.There could be creatures(small,insect-like,maybe) which exist.

 

[shaz619]

The Universe is so big that there has to be others out there, they could be aliens, humans or human like creatures

 

[Chrish]

@OP

Look up Fermi’s paradox. This topic is a personal fav of mine and I have some different views on the topic but FP is a good start!

Already posted the link above. Of course it's all speculation/ hypothesis but I don't believe FP argument holds much water.

 

[Chrish]

There is hypothesis known as Kardashev scale. According to that scale, civilizations can be divided into three categories in terms of advancement in technology. Type I, II and III. Earth currently is at type 0 and we are in a transition phase to type I. There are even speculations of further scales than type III.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale

https://futurism.com/the-kardashev-scale-type-i-ii-iii-iv-v-civilization/

 

[Chrish]

Some more:

http://www.veronicasicoe.com/blog/2014/04/the-kardashev-scale-0-to-6/

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

Mathematically speaking, they have to exist (you know, Fermi's paradox and all that).

But the day I firmly started believing in extraterrestrial civilizations' existence was when I realized 'Alhamdulillahi Rabbil Aalameen...''s meaning. Translation: [All] praise is [due] to Allah, Lord of the worlds - https://quran.com/1/2

Many people have different interpretations of Quran but one of the interpretation implies that by 'the worlds' it might mean different worlds in universe/multiverse (or beyond...).

We started emitting signals to space less than 100 years ago... must have some patience

Who knows? we might get in touch with our cosmic neighbors tomorrow.

 

[Slog]

Mathematically speaking, they have to exist (you know, Fermi's paradox and all that).

But the day I firmly started believing in extraterrestrial civilizations' existence was when I realized 'Alhamdulillahi Rabbil Aalameen...''s meaning. Translation: [All] praise is [due] to Allah, Lord of the worlds - https://quran.com/1/2

Many people have different interpretations of Quran but one of the interpretation implies that by 'the worlds' it might mean different worlds in universe/multiverse (or beyond...).

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The accepted explanation is that worlds refers to heaven and hell

Also why couldnt it be that these uninhabited planets we see are indeed heaven and hell?

For eg. there will be several types of hell as per scripture. For some people hell will be burning fire (aka Mercury or a planet next to the star) and for others they will be put in a freezing hell (Pluto type planet?)

Since heaven and hell will be inhabited post-Judgement day they would naturally be empty right now. So in that aspect it makes sense that these other worlds arent inhabited

Ofcourse this is all from Islamic perspective and im just thinking out alound.

 

[WhenSultansBowled]

The accepted explanation is that worlds refers to heaven and hell

Also why couldnt it be that these uninhabited planets we see are indeed heaven and hell?

For eg. there will be several types of hell as per scripture. For some people hell will be burning fire (aka Mercury or a planet next to the star) and for others they will be put in a freezing hell (Pluto type planet?)

Since heaven and hell will be inhabited post-Judgement day they would naturally be empty right now. So in that aspect it makes sense that these other worlds arent inhabited

Ofcourse this is all from Islamic perspective and im just thinking out alound.

No one can enter or leave Heaven/Hell without permission from Lord. But you can (theoretically) visit any planet if you have good/strong/advanced enough ship.

I think the Heaven and Hell are beyond our physical comprehension. Maybe they are in an another dimension or a new (unimaginable) framework/physical world altogether.

Don't forget 'Kun Fa Yakun' : 'His command is 'Be' and it is!' https://quran.com/36/82

I highly doubt there is just of what we see, know or can imagine.

As the GOAT Allama Iqbal put it:
'Sitaron Se Aage Jahaan Aur Bhi Hain -- Abhi Ishq Ke Imtihan Aur Bhi Hain'
'Beyond the stars are even more worlds -- There are still even more tests of passion'

 

[Madplayer]

The other day i was reading about some of the other theories which mentioned that even on earth, the present day human civilization might not be the most advanced the earth has ever seen.

There might have been some other civilizations on earth far more advanced than present day humans but which were wiped out due to cataclysmic events. Some say a few of them survived and passed on the most basic ideas to the next generations. They quote gobeiki teipi in Turkey which was discovered in 90s as a prime example of a massive megalithic structure which is 12000 years old and ask that how it is possible that humans could have made it so many years ago without any technology.

I myself find it fascinating that all of human technology and modern gadgets developed in past 300 years maximum. If it took us just 300 years to develop so much, why would it not be possible for humans from 20k years ago to do the same? Or is there some other time limit for maturation of human mind?