Do Indians support India's role in attacks in Pakistan?

[Hitman]

Firstly, "India's role in attacks in Pakistan" is something only Pakistanis seem to be aware of. Is there one nation (even Pakistani allies) who are in agreement with Pakistan's allegations? Stop presenting it as a fact, because it isn't.

As for your question, I never said that.

Good point.

 

[Moh@n]

lol. The word plebiscite will give you a clue.

Lol all you want, doesn't change the fact that Pakistan is blocking the plebiscite.

India won't refuse to abide by a UN directive and thereby lose face.

 

[BlackShadow]

Lol all you want, doesn't change the fact that Pakistan is blocking the plebiscite.

India won't refuse to abide by a UN directive and thereby lose face.

Pakistan will gladly take a plebiscite today, it's the only hope they have. However, India is under no obligation to honour that after 70 years of backstabbing and deceit from Pakistan. If it didn't happen for 70 years, it can wait another 50 years.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Lol all you want, doesn't change the fact that Pakistan is blocking the plebiscite.

India won't refuse to abide by a UN directive and thereby lose face.

Please use some common sense. It would be foolish of Pakistan to remove all it's troops only for India not to give Kashmiri's right of self determination. Once India confirms there will be vote, Pak will remove troops.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Firstly, "India's role in attacks in Pakistan" is something only Pakistanis seem to be aware of. Is there one nation (even Pakistani allies) who are in agreement with Pakistan's allegations? Stop presenting it as a fact, because it isn't.

As for your question, I never said that.

You wrote

"but even if true, I actually like India's approach for a change."

What do you like about India approach? The fact it will kill Pakistani's? Or anything else?

 

[BlackShadow]

You wrote

"but even if true, I actually like India's approach for a change."

What do you like about India approach? The fact it will kill Pakistani's? Or anything else?

Supporting separatists in Pakistan as a *** for tat policy is something I will always support. But that's not what you accuse me of saying, is it?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Supporting separatists in Pakistan as a *** for tat policy is something I will always support. But that's not what you accuse me of saying, is it?

There is no separatist movement, 90% + of the tribes in this area want to be with Pakistan. You would be supporting terrorists/gangsters who will be paid by India to cause damage and kill people.

Educate yourself on the conflict before beating the drums of support.

 

[BlackShadow]

There is no separatist movement, 90% + of the tribes in this area want to be with Pakistan. You would be supporting terrorists/gangsters who will be paid by India to cause damage and kill people.

Educate yourself on the conflict before beating the drums of support.

How do you suggest I educate myself? Reading your posts, or going by factual reports by credible sources?

Since 2011, many activists have disappeared, and there have been 1000 recovered bodies of people reported "missing" in Balochistan. For majority of the cases, bodies are not even recovered, giving you an idea of the scale of this genocide. What do you think about this? What is going on?

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/f...ncing-pakistan-activists-170121074139848.html

 

[KingKhanWC]

How do you suggest I educate myself? Reading your posts, or going by factual reports by credible sources?

Since 2011, many activists have disappeared, and there have been 1000 recovered bodies of people reported "missing" in Balochistan. For majority of the cases, bodies are not even recovered, giving you an idea of the scale of this genocide. What do you think about this? What is going on?

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/f...ncing-pakistan-activists-170121074139848.html

Activists not separatists. Google some more.

 

[BlackShadow]

Activists not separatists. Google some more.

Nice try. Just visit the link and read "Baloch nationalists". Disappearing activists is stage 2 so that no one talks about this genocide.

 

[OneTip-OneHand]

It's common knowledge now India is supporting attacks in Pakistan.

However I didn't think Indians would support this but we have such comments.



http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/s...rorist-group-busted-in-Hyderabad-police-claim

Personally I dont wish Pakistan to use forces to attack civilians in India. Since Kashmiri's in IOK have been persecuted and oppressed, I'm ok with Pakistan helping them but nothing more.

I hope all Indians comment and we will see most do not wish such attacks by India in Pakistan, otherwise why would they want to communicate with Pakistani's at all?

Same sentiments here mate-

Personally I dont wish India to use forces to attack civilians in Pakistan. But Since Balochs in Balochistan and some othe minorities in Pakistan have been persecuted and oppressed, I'm ok with India helping them but nothing more.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Im an Indian and I do not support any form of attacks on any nation against people of any faith or race. I strongly oppose killings of innocent civilians and If Indian govt in anyway involved in such attacks then should be held accountable. Im sure no sane person be it Indian or Pakistani would support killings of innocent civilians. Any who suppports such killings really need help!!

 

[R3verse Swing]

It doesn't look like you have read the resolution either, else you would know why the plebiscite hasn't happened yet.

Oh I have read it alright. Why not enlighten us and explain why the plebiscite has not happened yet?

 

[KingKhanWC]

Same sentiments here mate-

Personally I dont wish India to use forces to attack civilians in Pakistan. But Since Balochs in Balochistan and some othe minorities in Pakistan have been persecuted and oppressed, I'm ok with India helping them but nothing more.

Why do all Indians re-cycle the same old pathetic arguments. Do you all get taught this in school?

I must have wrote this over 50 times now on this forum.

Balochistan is part of Pakistan, Kashmir is disputed territory. Majority of Kashmiri's hate India and want to leave. Majority of Balochis love Pakistan and would never dream of seperating. The terrorists are paid by Indian and Afghan forces to cause unrest in Pakistan.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Lol all you want, doesn't change the fact that Pakistan is blocking the plebiscite.

India won't refuse to abide by a UN directive and thereby lose face.

Just a few points,

1.Kashmir was ruled by its sovereign king so the territory was not up for partition, so no matter what a few pakistanis claim, the principles of partition do not apply.

2. Pakistan invaded Kashmir and tried to forcibly annex Kashmir. So all this independence story is a hogwash. They wanted that territory and went to war for it. What they didnot expect was Maharaja Hari Singh aceding to India and Indian Army landing there.

3. India agreed to the resolution. But Pakistan never vacated the territory. Just like a illegal squatter doesnt vacates his.

 

[Moh@n]

Oh I have read it alright. Why not enlighten us and explain why the plebiscite has not happened yet?

Here is why:

3. India agreed to the resolution. But Pakistan never vacated the territory. Just like a illegal squatter doesnt vacates his.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Here is why:

Like I said, you need to read the resolution. Pakistanis were not meant to vacate the territory.

 

[OneTip-OneHand]

Why do all Indians re-cycle the same old pathetic arguments. Do you all get taught this in school?

I must have wrote this over 50 times now on this forum.

Balochistan is part of Pakistan, Kashmir is disputed territory. Majority of Kashmiri's hate India and want to leave. Majority of Balochis love Pakistan and would never dream of seperating. The terrorists are paid by Indian and Afghan forces to cause unrest in Pakistan.

You write it 50 times, 100 times or a million times, it doesn’t matter to me.

You asked for our opinion. Here it is. The terrorists are paid by Pakistan Army to cause unrest in Indian territory so (if) India is returning the favour, why this whining? Lets keep doing it till eternity.

By the way what about Mumbai and Indian Parliament attacks. Those also disputed territory?

 

[Moh@n]

Like I said, you need to read the resolution. Pakistanis were not meant to vacate the territory.

Lulz ok. Carry on with the denial mode.

This is why it's been 70 years and counting and the Kashmir masla remains unresolved.

Neutrals who have got nothing to do with Kashmir are lying too I believe like here:

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[R3verse Swing]

Lulz ok. Carry on with the denial mode.

This is why it's been 70 years and counting and the Kashmir masla remains unresolved.

All you have to do is read the resolution.

There's no denial. Cite the section where Pakistanis have to leave the territory then?

 

[R3verse Swing]

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Well done, you just proved yourself wrong.

Demilitarisation is not the same as Pakistanis leaving the territory.

Take the advice of the UN representative, READ the resolution instead of falling for hype and fiction.

 

[Moh@n]

Well done, you just proved yourself wrong.

Demilitarisation is not the same as Pakistanis leaving the territory.

Take the advice of the UN representative, READ the resolution instead of falling for hype and fiction.

Demilitarisation does mean Pakistani forces leaving the territory. What else do you think it means?

 

[R3verse Swing]

Demilitarisation does mean Pakistani forces leaving the territory. What else do you think it means?

Ahh now you are getting closer. Indians in this thread are saying ALL Pakistanis must leave. Now that we have established this is an outright lie, we can move on to the next section.

If you read the resolution, section 1A, it states "Pakistanis forces for the purpose of fighting". The debate, as to WHY it has taken 70 years and still no answer, is that Pakistan claims the forces are defending, India claims the opposite.

 

[Moh@n]

Ahh now you are getting closer. Indians in this thread are saying ALL Pakistanis must leave. Now that we have established this is an outright lie, we can move on to the next section.

It doesn't really matter what it means. The point is has it happened yet? No.

Who is supposed to act for that to happen? India? No. Pakistan? Yes.

Get the drift now or are you going to be denying this too?

 

[Moh@n]

If you read the resolution, section 1A, it states "Pakistanis forces for the purpose of fighting". The debate, as to WHY it has taken 70 years and still no answer, is that Pakistan claims the forces are defending, India claims the opposite.

Pakistani troops were the ones that attacked the region when it was independent in the first place. LOL at the "defending" argument.

 

[R3verse Swing]

It doesn't really matter what it means. The point is has it happened yet? No.

Who is supposed to act for that to happen? India? No. Pakistan? Yes.

Get the drift now or are you going to be denying this too?

Doesn't really matter what it means? If you say so.

Pakistan Military is NOT the same as ALL Pakistanis including residences. Indians claiming all Pakistanis must leave is a complete utter lie. A lie destroyed not just by your video, but by the resolution too.

Remember, following the logic of the partition, there was, still is, and forever will be, a Muslim majority in Kashmir.

There is no drift. Pakistan military are defending.

 

[R3verse Swing]

Pakistani troops were the ones that attacked the region when it was independent in the first place. LOL at the "defending" argument.

That's the Indian version of the story.

Just remember, Pakistan forces is NOT the same as ALL Pakistanis.

 

[Moh@n]

That's the Indian version of the story.

BBC is Indian?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-16069078

 

[R3verse Swing]

BBC is Indian?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-16069078

Once again the first bullet point falsifies your claim.

"1947 - End of British rule and partition of sub-continent into mainly Hindu India and Muslim-majority state of Pakistan."

What are you going to claim now? Kashmir wasn't a Muslim majority territory?

Clearly Pakistan were defending their right.

 

[Moh@n]

Once again the first bullet point falsifies your claim.

"1947 - End of British rule and partition of sub-continent into mainly Hindu India and Muslim-majority state of Pakistan."

What are you going to claim now? Kashmir wasn't a Muslim majority territory?

Clearly Pakistan were defending their right.

So you are going to deny history now. Well done.

Why did Pakistanis feel the need to attack the region if it was Muslim majority anyways?

Kashmir was neither a part of India nor Pakistan after the partition. It was independent before your troops invaded. Hypocrisy of Pakistanis crying for independence of Kashmir now is pretty hilarious.

 

[Madplayer]

Indians deny it.

Because Bharat is Mahaan and cant do no wrong.

 

[R3verse Swing]

So you are going to deny history now. Well done.

Why did Pakistanis feel the need to attack the region if it was Muslim majority anyways?

Kashmir was neither a part of India nor Pakistan after the partition. It was independent before your troops invaded. Hypocrisy of Pakistanis crying for independence of Kashmir now is pretty hilarious.

You are denying the principles and logic behind the partition.

Read up the Standstill agreement, Pakistan agreed to it, India did not.

Pakistan did not attack, Pakistan simply secured Kashmir after the partition due to India's threat of taking control of Kashmir.

Defending.

 

[Madplayer]

So you are going to deny history now. Well done.

Why did Pakistanis feel the need to attack the region if it was Muslim majority anyways?

Kashmir was neither a part of India nor Pakistan after the partition. It was independent before your troops invaded. Hypocrisy of Pakistanis crying for independence of Kashmir now is pretty hilarious.

Indians had NOT signed the standstill agreement, they had even stationed their troops in J&K which was against all principles and they were consistently in the ear of Maharaja and tried to settle the issue bilaterally. This created a lot of doubt and confusion resulting in the tribal attack.

 

[PakLFC]

Mate, you have them resorting to irrelevant topics. This is a clear indication of pwngae.

Salute to you sir!

I quote according to the thread. To bad all Bharati's are responding to my "irrelevant" replies

 

[PakLFC]

All that military might, and you can't host a Cricket match in your country. Last I heard, American drones were bombing your territory at will, where was your army?

If you seriously believe that this joke of an army you possess can make India bleed, then you are highly deluded.

The thing is that there needs to be government support for these attacks to be stopped. The army can not talk to the American's in a democracy, you understand? If the government is a puppet one then the military is greatly restricted and fights with one hand tied behind it's back. The embarrassing army is your rapist army who are humiliated by Kashmiris and ladies with handbags! Who regularly post video's of being walloped by their seniors and eating burnt roti's. We have all seen these video's of your cowards crying like babies! It is not for the Pak military but government to organise Cricket matches.