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Good question. This question deserved a new thread.
Pakistan government can give 1 cr to terrorist family members but what about security personnels?
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Pakistan government can give 1 cr to terrorist family members but what about security personnels?
Indians are a hilarious species.They can’t even do misinformation without looking like clowns.
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Are u saying samaa broadcaster source is clown
They can’t even do misinformation without looking like clowns.
Almost every major base from NurKhan in the north to Bholari, Malir in Karachi, Sindh was hit. Here is the map.
India fired a total of 19 Brahmos missiles and most of them found their marks. India is very close to developing the next version of Brahmos which is lighter faster and deadlier.
The days of cross the border and close range dog-fights are over. BVR is the new norm and the S400 ensures that the Pakistani jets are forced to operate much much deeper inside your territory thereby limiting the amount of damage they can inflict because due to the distance we get enough time to react to any incoming missiles for our AD to intercept them.
Replying this Indians especially at @uppercut is a waste of time cos he is just a spokesperson for the Indian IT propaganda department.
lol you actually believe this list?
Why are they all named Muhammad and all spelled the same way. You guys really have lost it at this point and there is no turning back. You would literally believe anything to get any face saving news.
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LOL... some body has to tell the list maker that he should have used AI to generate differnet names instead of using same Muhammad like millions times.... DESH BHAKTS will be proud seeing this anyway.. They are blind and deaf
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Trump’s latest
| "...I am talking to a very terrific man, Prime Minister of India, Narendra Modi. I said what's going on with you and Pakistan. Then I am talking to Pakistan about trade. I said what's going on with you and India? The hatred was tremendous. This has been going on for a hell of a long time, like, sometimes with different names for hundreds of years...I said, I don't want to make a trade deal with you...You guys are going to end up in a nuclear war...I said, call me back tomorrow, but we're not going to do any deals with you, or we're going to put tariffs on you that are so high, your head's going to spin...Within about five hours, it was done...Now maybe it starts again. I don't know. I don't think so, but I'll stop it if it does. We can't let these things happen..." says US President Donald Trump. (Reposting with full comments)
He is missing his friend Modi it seems who’s apparently stopped responding to his phone calls.
| "...I am talking to a very terrific man, Prime Minister of India, Narendra Modi. I said what's going on with you and Pakistan. Then I am talking to Pakistan about trade. I said what's going on with you and India? The hatred was tremendous. This has been going on for a hell of a long time, like, sometimes with different names for hundreds of years...I said, I don't want to make a trade deal with you...You guys are going to end up in a nuclear war...I said, call me back tomorrow, but we're not going to do any deals with you, or we're going to put tariffs on you that are so high, your head's going to spin...Within about five hours, it was done...Now maybe it starts again. I don't know. I don't think so, but I'll stop it if it does. We can't let these things happen..." says US President Donald Trump. (Reposting with full comments)
He is missing his friend Modi it seems who’s apparently stopped responding to his phone calls.
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Trump is relentless
If Modi does not pick his phone for few more days, number of jets will increase to 10
Trump is relentless
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I see the Indian establishment is still desperately trying to put a blindfold over their people's eyes about their OPSIN. lol
Now they are using idiotic AI to generate list of Pakistani soldiers who lost their lives. And they all have the same first name it seems. Desperation is reaching an all time high.
Keep making bigger fools of yourselves!
Now they are using idiotic AI to generate list of Pakistani soldiers who lost their lives. And they all have the same first name it seems. Desperation is reaching an all time high.
Keep making bigger fools of yourselves!
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If need arises, opening will be done by Navy': Chief of Naval Staff on Op Sindoor, says India's aggression kept Pak navy captive
Indian Navy will takes less than a week to forced Pakistan Navy to surrender
Indian Navy will takes less than a week to forced Pakistan Navy to surrender
I see you quietly ducked answering this on the other thread ..perhaps these are AI generated too ?
India's stance in sports: When will it be ok to make things nice with Pakistan?
This is the official statement of Indian government. If that is their policy going forward then how long will it take to get things back on normal. And what about the Asia cup stance in light of following statement?
ppforum.pakpassion.net
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You may feel its your duty to respond to every question or topic related to India, I don't feel that way about Pakistan. You guys can believe whatever lies you want to believe. I have been here long enough to know no logic or reason will ever convince the brainwashed Indians.I see you quietly ducked answering this on the other thread ..perhaps these are AI generated too ?
India's stance in sports: When will it be ok to make things nice with Pakistan?
This is the official statement of Indian government. If that is their policy going forward then how long will it take to get things back on normal. And what about the Asia cup stance in light of following statement?
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If need arises, opening will be done by Navy': Chief of Naval Staff on Op Sindoor, says India's aggression kept Pak navy captive
Indian Navy will takes less than a week to forced Pakistan Navy to surrender
Every Indian government official, military officer, and TV media clown sounds like they’re performing for their own amusement, spouting lines even they don’t believe. And then, their leftovers abroad pick up the same nonsense, desperately repeating it as if parroting the “official” line will suddenly make it credible. The irony? They’re trying to convince the very people who laugh at them.
Your officials are certified clowns. Before anyone can take a word they say seriously, the first step is to unclown them.
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Is this failed operation still being discussed?
The wire summed it up quite nicely back in May. No wonder Modi banned it during the war. Yet Indians are still going on and on.
The second fact is that Pakistan responded with strikes from its own airspace, using missiles and drones. There is evidence of both deaths and infrastructure damage. Pakistan claims that it shot down multiple aircraft, and while the Indian military has not divulged any figures it has said that all its pilots are safe and that there are inevitably costs to the conflict, implicitly acknowledging that some aircraft have been damaged or destroyed. India has not claimed to have downed any Pakistani warplanes at all.
The third fact is that neither India or Pakistan could declare a victory over the other side. A ceasefire was declared on 10 May 2025, although violations were alleged by both countries.
Fourthly, no significant country unambiguously backed Indian actions, neither in the neighbourhood or in the wider world. In fact, US President Donald Trump put up a social media post claiming that the US had negotiated the ceasefire more than an hour before India or Pakistan publicly acknowledged it.
These four facts, undisputed by any major party to the conflict, are enough to understand that Operation Sindoor was a failure at the tactical, strategic, and diplomatic level.
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The wire summed it up quite nicely back in May. No wonder Modi banned it during the war. Yet Indians are still going on and on.
Four clear facts
The first of these is that Operation Sindoor was launched on May 7, 2025, with missile strikes from Indian airspace into both the part of J&K under Pakistani control and other parts of Pakistan. The Indian government says that 9 places were hit, and nobody seems to dispute this.The second fact is that Pakistan responded with strikes from its own airspace, using missiles and drones. There is evidence of both deaths and infrastructure damage. Pakistan claims that it shot down multiple aircraft, and while the Indian military has not divulged any figures it has said that all its pilots are safe and that there are inevitably costs to the conflict, implicitly acknowledging that some aircraft have been damaged or destroyed. India has not claimed to have downed any Pakistani warplanes at all.
The third fact is that neither India or Pakistan could declare a victory over the other side. A ceasefire was declared on 10 May 2025, although violations were alleged by both countries.
Fourthly, no significant country unambiguously backed Indian actions, neither in the neighbourhood or in the wider world. In fact, US President Donald Trump put up a social media post claiming that the US had negotiated the ceasefire more than an hour before India or Pakistan publicly acknowledged it.
These four facts, undisputed by any major party to the conflict, are enough to understand that Operation Sindoor was a failure at the tactical, strategic, and diplomatic level.
The Many Failures of Operation Sindoor
Four facts, undisputed by any major party to the conflict, are enough to understand that Operation Sindoor's shortcomings at the tactical, strategic, and diplomatic levels.
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well since you keep spouting the same drivel in every thread therefore if you this is soo important to you then respond to the simple question below
So according to you these videos are fake ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J8Xya9brEo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAs3QmRifyw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abXsMSqeaIA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdqPYLCX7GE
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Your efforts are getting more and more lame and tired.
We have seen the same "evidence" over and over again and it has been responded to multiple times. Either you are presenting videos from Indian outlets, (the first video has Indian flag all over it, using an Indian lobbyist using AI, just cuz the person has white skin does not make him true)
The second video shows you cratered a few run aways and destroyed a building here and there. Big deal, these runways are designed to become operational in hours or days after such hits. I am not sure what point does this video make here.
the third video shows you guys destroyed a masjid and a religious center for children and females - congrats proud accomplishment lol
fourth link: same thing.
So what does any of that prove?: you guys destroyed masjids, civilian centers, and cratered a few runways and destroyed some buildings. Fine all truth. Now grow the cojones to listen to your own people talking about how many planes were downed and who actually won.
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What? He will now log in from his other account 'straighttalk' just to like his own posts and pretend his clown show is getting applause.
Except you forget that there is a full video of the Michael Rubin interview which I have posted in the past which you ignored ... do you want to see it again? And he is not a lobbyist he is a former Pentagon official.
One of the buildings that you are talking about is the Nur Khan command center which is now completely flattened and is the main reason why your Gernails ran to Amreeca
And here is the NOTAM for the Rahim Yar Kahan Base thats still not operational 4+ months later ( let me know if you need morre evidence )
The key thing is that was done after providing 2 weeks of advance notice and without neutralizing your Air Defense systems and right in the heart of your mainland. Do you even understand what that implies ?
You mean like the Praveen Sahwney dude ? Rememeber you walked away from your own thread that you created on this a while back ... do you want me to bump that again ?
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Why on earth would a Pakistani waste time convincing a Hindutva? Just give them a mirror, since they’re already busy nodding at themselves and calling it “Pakistani approval.”
@uppercut, of course, is already the PhD professor of this art form.
Just give them a mirror, since they’re already busy nodding at themselves and calling it “Pakistani approval.”@uppercut, of course, is already the PhD professor of this art form.
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Not going to bother with the full load of garbage there but:
1. Nur Khan is not flattened. I was in Islamabad myself few weeks ago and its fully operational. Of course you wont believe me, so at the end of the day, its just Indian garbage propaganda like the ones we saw during the conflict about Indian Navy destroying Karachi, etc.
2. Pentagon officials and government officials become lobbyists once they leave their govt jobs, because they are paid for by other states. that's the definition of a lobbyist. Quoting some white skin former pentagon official who parrots his paymasters is not a big deal. He is definitely not as credible as india's own citizen who is sitting there on YouTube talking about how India lost it. Please refer to the video shared above in my last post.
but we know you will come back and recycle the same debunked AI generated propaganda from India on this site. That's all you have been doing over the last few months. You get ashamed and embarrassed and yet keep coming back for more. So I wont stop you this time either. Keep at it, champ! lol
Thats obviously not true. Perhaps this is an old article that was written before the IAF Chief claimed shooting down your Jets and 2 AWACS/ELINT.
Not that it would make any difference to you .... you will obviously say it did not happen ... nothing new. same old same old
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Indian chief claimed it after the war when all wa said and done and India was defeated internationally, declared a global pariah and dead economy. You want us to take that statement seriously? Do you take it seriously?
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And the world had a collective chuckle at that claim.
You forget that your own CDS admitted to Pakistan imposing a no fly zone over India. Even now, Pakistan is sending drones in Kashmir and your soldiers are mysteriously popping up dead on the border and there is no response from India.... hmm I wonder why that is
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at best uppercut is just trying to convince himself he won.
only someone facing an existential crisis of own beliefs would be so desperate he would go around spending most of his work day on a Pakistani website writing this stuff trying to convince pakistanis that India won. if India won and we truly lost, tht should be good enough for you to shut up and simply enjoy life. just the fact you are ignoring your own life, work, family to spend 10 hours a day on a Pakistani forum, collecting YouTube links and social media AI fakery tells me the mental scars and issues run deep.
Hope this guy doesn't have kids, because he is severely negligent to them I m sure looking at his PP activity. LOL
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Most of the stuff we are aware of already.
They claim the air base hits as a gotcha, but like we all know it and acknowledge that Pakistan took hits. We aren't denying it.
I never said the entire airbase was demolished. I just said the Command and control center was flattened ... do you deny this ?
Prove that he is paid by India. And some random youtuber is more credible than a former Pentagon official ? This is your logic ?
Here is your own Journalist : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLyauFEtBZk --> Moeed Pirzada watch from 17 mins onwards
Therefore going by your logic of having to listen to your own people maybe you should listen and acknowledge Moeed then ?
Prove it that it is a AI generated video.
here is the original interview:
Well then how does that translate into a loss for India ? Because PAF shot down a few jets ?
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We also nailed an S-400 battery, hacked into your infrastructure, with recordings to prove and got your missile reservoir which of course you wont admit. The superior Chinese tech had us steps ahead of you throughout the conflict and that’s something your own military experts will admit to. I am sure you have listen to those hacked recordings of your pilots before they went silent
Thats because it takes time to do Battle damage assessment (BDA).
Do you have evidence for any of that ?
At 1:55 he starts talking about Chinas space tech and how accurate it is and that India does not have anything remotely close to it and that they can detect any Indian military activity and counter it etc etc ....
So then explain how this happened despite all that great tech ( see image below ):
Thats precision missile strikes deep inside your territory that the Chinese could do nothing to stop.
This is why any idiot on the web can say anything .... does not make it a fact. Now let me know if you still want me to continue watching that video.
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You want us to believe these pictures than could be easily doctored as evidence?
seriously?
even 90 of them show cratered runways. in Pakistan we get more damage to roads from rains. LOL what are you smoking?
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wow the backyard got completely redesigned. my God however will be recover from this?
that looks like some minor road damage
really this is your big evidence of how you guys won?
try again
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oh wow a hole in the roof. India really completely wrecked us. how will we come back from this damage?
Dude do you realize that those are satellite pics from Maxar ( which is not a Indian company ) and anyone could purchase them ? Nobody ( other than you disputes the authenticity of those images ). Get a grip.
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Is this really the best you got? slightly damaged runways, burnt grass and a hole in the roof, and what looks like another building structure gone?
How is this a win? what was your goal again? stopping "terrorists". lol Why did you stop at these? why did you not continue to destroy the "terrorists"? How old are you really? I am sorry I don't mean to say that as an insult, I actually mean to ask how old you are so I can perhaps dumb down my responses for your age group.
The building on the left is Nur Khan Command center which is completely flattened and a lot of Pak military personnel were killed in that. Ditto for the other building on the right which is Bholari where a Squadron leader and other Airmen were casualties.
As I said I understand your need to indulge in face saving but in this day and age you cannot hide anything.
You want to explain why this NOTAM is going on for 4.5 months if the damage was superficial ? The fact that you are getting personal is quite telling though and is indicative of your age.
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For the last 3 months he has been spamming the same satellite image like it's a world cup trophy. People are sick of it. Even in threads unrelated to Operation Sindoor, he waves it around pretending it's a debate win. The guy reeks of inferiority complex. Someone please just tell him, 'Fine, you won the debate', before he dies of desperation.
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Bholari was damaged and yes a squadron leader achieve shahadat. But Nur Khan was not destroyed. This is all fake propaganda being fed to you. I was there myself three/four weeks ago and Its standing not wrecked. These are doctored images being fed to you. The Nur Khan air base is used by Americans as well and Indians know it. They probably hit a crater there and that's it. Even Indians know it would **** off the US if you guys attacked it with US assets inside.
You can simply Google Nur Khan Air base and you will see first 50-60 hits are mostly Indian, think about it, why that's the case and what is being said there. This is a classic case of misinformation warfare.
But if you like to think its leveled, helps you sleep better go right ahead. The next conflict, the same base will be used to inflict more damage on India and I guess then you would start to see the lies of your government.
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What is this even mean? Sheikh Zayed is not even a Pakistan airport. I am utterly confused. now you have resoorted to posting random irrelevant stuff.
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President of Iran landed at Nur Khan and it was on Live-TV
But because @uppercut is a proven dishonest, liar he chooses to ignore evidence like this.
@uppercut = But Saar...You must believe me Saar...
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he is like the kid who crams two three lines of English to impress people and repeats them over and over again to show he is very "ishmart"For the last 3 months he has been spamming the same satellite image like it's a world cup trophy. People are sick of it. Even in threads unrelated to Operation Sindoor, he waves it around pretending it's a debate win. The guy reeks of inferiority complex. Someone please just tell him, 'Fine, you won the debate', before he dies of desperation.
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I passed by it a few times and have family that lives in the area. It did not get decimated at all. But of course Indians know better. lol
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You are wasting your time.... you can say what you like, he will start tomorrow from the same point where he started today.
Keywords that are kryptonite to them are; no fly zone and midnight stub burning.
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Showing pictures of ruined landscaping to prove India destroyed airbases over and over again even after being told these could be doctored images is like a paindoo bacha going to a posh wedding and using the only words of English he knows "Hello How do you do, what a beautiful sunny day" to all the guests while they are leaving at 10:00 pm
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He sounds like a very sophisticated Indian made chatbot AI, which is still trying to learn how to argue with intelligent humans (and failing at it)
or perhaps he is a real person and just gets distracted during cold calling americans telling them he will update their TV boxes for free. "I will be having your credit card number next pleeej"
do you understand the difference between an entire Airbase and just a command center on that base ? Once again I never claimed that the entire base was destroyed. Do you even understand ?
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do you understand that such strategic places as Nur Khan air base wont have just a room or two of command centers that you can make inoperable by a drone struck hole in the roof? do you?
Did that tour include the Command center at Nur Khan ?
Note: This is where hurling insults will come handy for you.
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Bholari Airbase:
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Of all the airbases in Pakistan, Bholari is the one I am familiar with because there is an old Darul-uloom close by local Muslims consult with weather (and Moon sighting data). I have not visited but discussed and spoken to those around it multiple times.
This is a site which is used by Central Hilal Committee (Pakistan) due to excellent visibility and line of sight and Optical Aids for Hilal (Crescent) announcements and many people (civilians) visit it for this purpose every month.
Forget air operations, the Hilal (Moon sighting) activities continue at this base and civilian visits have continued and the team of Ulama and students have continued to use it under the guidance of Pakistan Air force.
This airbase is an important "sight" for Ruyat-e-Hilal committee in Pakistan and no restrictions were placed on civilians visits at all which tells me that there is no significant damage or concerns otherwise the monthly visits would have been curtailed and restricted.
Pakistan Air force has Telescopes etc for monthly Moon sighting here and they provide weather and Astronomy data to local Moon sighting team and continue to cooperate in an uninterrupted manner.
No issues here and whatever the damage was didn't interfere with civilian visits and they didn't close it at all.
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So the plane was able to land at the air base without a functioning command center?
so what is even the point of a command center then? why did you guys even destroy it if its absence doesn't impact the functioning of the air base?
First of all that was not a Drone strike. It was multiple ( atleast two ) Brahmos cruise missiles ( Let me know if you need videos of the strike) and secondly if you are referring to backup facilities ... yes but they are at a different air base altogether. It is a critical command center which was hit and acknowledged by your own Prime minister and his advisor and considering that it was a bullseye hit during peak of the War your military lost a lot of crucial personnel working in that building.
So the plane was able to land at the air base without a functioning command center?
so what is even the point of a command center then? why did you guys even destroy it if its absence doesn't impact the functioning of the air base?
Civilian flights do not need military command centers ... two separate things. Quite shocking to see the extents to which you go to save face.
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Can you provide evidence of the crucial command center being hit, the people being killed or the PM admitting to such a damage?
Let us see that evidence first.
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See below...
So the plane was able to land at the air base without a functioning command center?
so what is even the point of a command center then? why did you guys even destroy it if its absence doesn't impact the functioning of the air base?
Yes @uppercut thinks that a Presidential convoy landed "without" a functional command center...
Evidence???
Or did you pull that BS out of your back pocket as you usually do???
we are talking specifically about the hangar at Bholari where PAF houses its AWACS and other fighter jets. This is a brand new Hangar which is now severely damaged if not completely destroyed. Pretty sure this is not what you are referring to.
You are confusing Civilian Air traffic control towers with military command and control stations. Two different things.
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And Pakistan Air force continued to provide civilians access to their facility without hiding anything from plain sight.
As I said, more BS which you pull out from your pocket?
Nobody is denying that the base was hit or damage was caused, what is disputed is your exaggeration of the damage. What I am saying is the civilians have continued to use the base and Pakistan Air force saw no reason to restrict access.
I am saying that civilians are still being access for Moon sighting purposes and PAF sees no reason to curtail civilian access so maybe they repaired the damage in quick time and moved on.
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First of all the veracity of these pictures will be questioned. and 2nd, even with one hole in the roof, do you think the air force of a country is damaged and made inoperable? How many fighter jets could have been destroyed looking at that hole in the roof? let us be reasonable now. agar koi shurli chhorni hai to dhang ki choro.
Your own PM ( and his advisor ) acknowledged that. The evidence is in this video at 0:10 seconds ( before ) and 0:15 ( after )
Let me know if you need videos of the missile strike on Nur Khan.
huh ? Civilians are using that Hangar ? PAF allows civilians to use hangars ? Just look at the BS you spout.
Again Hangar is JUST ONE Building in a Airbase. I NEVER SAID THE ENTIRE Airbase was destroyed . Do you even understand the difference ? Ridiculous.
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but this video you showed does not prove anything. show me where Pakistani PM admitted like you said and link me to a neutral site that proves this point and has credible evidence posted there. Anybody can whip up these videos using a video and image editing software and make idiotic claims like yours. If I have a lot of free time like you do, I can provide you with evidence of the destruction of New Delhi using some handy software tools.
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The corrugated roof is mostly intact .... highly embarrassing for India.
.... highly embarrassing for India.
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Not Hangars, the Base! Where did I say that the civilians are using the "Hangar" or "any "Hangar"? Do you have a problem with English comprehension too besides issues with dishonesty and lying?
The civilian access was never curtailed so the damage was either quickly repaired or no need to hide it.
Lets see who is lying ... shall we ? Show me where I claimed that the entire Bholari "Airbase" was damaged as implied by you in this post #455
So civilians have access to the Hangar at Bholari ? ( Keyword is HANGAR )
The corrugated roof is mostly intact
Yeah I suppose people just drop dead inside the hangar for no reason despite the roof supposedly being "mostly" intact ehh ?
Keep digging. Dont let those pesky annoying facts get in your way
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India won
questioned by who and on what basis is that being questioned ( let alone confirmed that the images are fake ). ?
Where did I claim anything like that ? What I said though is that numerous such precision hits to facilities at important military air bases ( Again I am NOT saying Entire Airbases were destroyed so stop that nonsense ) across the length and breadth of PAF is what forced PAF to call for ceasefire. Let me know if you want me to spell that out further.
Considering that it was hit at the peak of the war ... there will naturally be plenty of damage .... especially to personnel who are working in such large important facilities like Hangars and Command centers. Lets not even worry about hardware which is replaceable. Ofcourse PAF will never accept it.
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Sorry to interrupt you guys but Mr uppercut, where is the evidence for Nur Khan command & control being destroyed...I read above we were specifically talking about it first before digressing to bolari. Thanks and enlighten us all. Good luck
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Every thread regarding Operation Sindoor needs to be locked. Otherwise the incessant trolling from both sides will continue till the end of mankind.
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that's it, this video conclusively proves that the airbase is gone, the command center which was based on three bricks and 3 SQ feet of serya is completely obliterated!
RIP Nur Khan Air base. you will be missed!
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Yes, some people need to move on now
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We need to prepare a memorial for it like US did for twin towers
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I'm so sick to death of the topic being discussed on PP, I barely visit such threads anymore.
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