Do you, as an Indian fan, wish to see India playing Pakistan in a bilateral series?

[KingKhanWC]

To all the Indian cricket fans on this forum, please post to confirm.

As cricket fans do you wish to see India v Pakistan bilateral series taking place?

 

[CricketCartoons]

Not at the present moment. Probably sometime in future when Pakistani players are not in form.

 

[www787]

After beating India comprehensively in CT final, as a Pakistani supporter, I do not care much for Pakistan vs India.

I rather see Pakistan Play in England, Australia, and South Africa.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Indians don't need to play Pakistan, they are only interested in playing high calibre opponents like Big Three England and Australia plus other white cricket playing countries like SA and NZ.

Expect replies along those lines.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Not at the present moment. Probably sometime in future when Pakistani players are not in form.

Fair answer and very much understandable.

 

[Napa]

It would be nice if India and Pakistan played a 5 Test series every year, the 9-12 record would become a 20-14 or something record in India's favor in a few years. After all, how much resistance can the #7 ranked team offer the #1 ranked team?

However, when people are dying in the low level war between the countries, I can't argue with the Indian government if it chooses to forbid bilateral series.

 

[shaz619]

Most of me Indian mates say no, apparently the current PCB set up and playing XI are linked to the terror attacks in Mumbai P.S I've been told not to worry about asking such questions and focus more on whom I'd like Pakistan to play other then India and leave such topics to the Indians, very sensitive subject

 

[KingKhanWC]

It would be nice if India and Pakistan played a 5 Test series every year, the 9-12 record would become a 20-14 or something record in India's favor in a few years. After all, how much resistance can the #7 ranked team offer the #1 ranked team?

However, when people are dying in the low level war between the countries, I can't argue with the Indian government if it chooses to forbid bilateral series.

Can you please confirm this is a NO from you?

 

[sam_ahm]

Nothing would excite me more than a full India-Pakistan series. Not just us, the world is missing out on this great rivalry.

The atmosphere, the passion is just unmatchable. How I wish they play again.

 

[BreadPakoda]

Yes, I will, as it will help us improve our H2H record.

 

[Napa]

Can you please confirm this is a NO from you?

Yes, it is an unfortunate NO. I do not have enough reason not to support the Indian government's decision. I hope the situation improves and bilaterals are possible.

 

[Asch Ali]

I am NOT Indian. But I just had the most brilliant plan for a full series!! PAK and IND should play a full series with each other in both countries. For example:

1st Test- New Delhi
2nd Test- Bangalore
3rd Test- Mumbai (D/N)
4th Test- Karachi (D/N)
5th Test- Lahore

1st ODI- Hyderabad [IND]
2nd ODI- Kolkata (D/N)
3rd ODI- Chennai (D/N)
4th ODI- Lucknow
5th ODI- Dharamsala
6th ODI- Multan (D/N)
7th ODI- Peshawar

1st T20- Faisalabad (N)
2nd T20- Rawalpindi (N)
3rd T20- Mohali (N)

 

[KingKhanWC]

Apparently you do not understand nuance, not everything in the world is black or white.

I understand when people are beating around the bush but it's fine, you dont have to answer if it may cause conflict with your government.

 

[Pete Rose]

I would say the two should play each other, provided the two countries have found a holding pattern to their hostilities

 

[Mr.Q]

No.
[MENTION=46929]shaz619[/MENTION] We’re not calling Pakistan or Pakistanis terrorists when we say ‘no’. It’s the current scenario that makes us say no. We had put forward some solutions to improve the relations between the two countries. Nothing happened. The ball is still in Pakistan’s court.

However, if the situation improves I’ll be very happy to see the two teams play.

 

[Varun]

Yes.

5 Tests, 7 ODIs, 3 T20s.

 

[Syed1]

Yes.

5 Tests, 7 ODIs, 3 T20s.

7 ODIs.... thora zayda hogaya

 

[Hitman]

I'd rather prefer a 3 Test series.

 

[Asch Ali]

7 ODIs.... thora zayda hogaya

India played 7 ODIs against Australia few years ago.

So why not do 7 against Pakistan in the most anticipated bi-lateral series in the history of cricket.

 

[babajee]

We would lose to India at India in tests but we would definitely beat them in English conditions. Anyone disagree?

 

[ManFan]

Both teams not good enough to have a competitive series right now.

Would make for some dull viewing.

 

[Mr.Q]

We would lose to India at India in tests but we would definitely beat them in English conditions. Anyone disagree?

No. You have the best bowling attack to exploit the conditions and pitches there.

 

[Syed1]

India played 7 ODIs against Australia few years ago.

So why not do 7 against Pakistan in the most anticipated bi-lateral series in the history of cricket.

If you like something... you cherish it.... you savour it... you have it in small chunks. If mangoes were available all year round you wouldn't like them as much.

 

[Asch Ali]

If you like something... you cherish it.... you savour it... you have it in small chunks. If mangoes were available all year round you wouldn't like them as much.

I get your idea. But all fans would love to see at least 5 ODIs. I am putting 7 just so the monsoons don’t wash them out. Just imagine run machines Kohli and Babar fighting it out making 500-1000 runs in the series.

 

[Rudi hater]

It would be nice if India and Pakistan played a 5 Test series every year, the 9-12 record would become a 20-14 or something record in India's favor in a few years. After all, how much resistance can the #7 ranked team offer the #1 ranked team?

However, when people are dying in the low level war between the countries, I can't argue with the Indian government if it chooses to forbid bilateral series.

Well, put it this way, lets see how so called ranked 1 team plays against England. personally, I don't want to see Pakistan playing India due attrocities and human right abuses commited by the Indian army against kashmiri people.

 

[classic]

I prefer them to not play any bilateral series as both team would try and push for a draw which would become tedious watch . More exciting watching them get hyped up and then brought down to earth.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Both teams not good enough to have a competitive series right now.

Would make for some dull viewing.

So what? Did Australia and England stop playing the Ashes when they had dull teams during some periods?

 

[Dingolfy]

As an Indian fan, absolutely yes. Nothing more exciting than an India-Pakistan match . And honestly right now, it is a good opportunity to reduce that head-to-head record, especially in Tests.

 

[Dingolfy]

We would lose to India at India in tests but we would definitely beat them in English conditions. Anyone disagree?

No.Look at how our boys bowled in SA against much better batsmen.

 

[Tusker]

To all the Indian cricket fans on this forum, please post to confirm.

As cricket fans do you wish to see India v Pakistan bilateral series taking place?

Absolutely NOT. Few things are more important than a stupid game of cricket. Indian govt should actually refuse to play Pakistan even in ICC Events/Asia Cup and forfeit the match even if we meet in a KO.

 

[JaDed]

Yes but not in UAE, preferably Bangladesh ,its almost neutral place imo.

 

[moghul]

This one ( of many ) important reason for me to get Kashmir issue resolved.

 

[Hasan123]

I would love to have a series with India. 3 tests ,5 ODIs, and 3 T20s.

 

[Nelson on]

Never want to play against Not even in the icc tournaments or the useless Asia cups just not worth aggravation.

 

[Swashbuckler]

Yes I would love to see India play Pakistan in a full fledged series ASAP, in fact we should play quite often like how the great rivals England and Australia play. We have fought so many wars over the years and been parties to so many tussles/bloodshed/blame games, did that stop us from playing cricket all this time? I find it a hypocritical stance of the Indian Government with regards to sporting and cultural ties with Pakistan. In fact as a cricket fan I am bored of seeing us play the same 3-4 teams year in and year out, would love to break that monotony. Let the politicians, armies, spies, journalists, patriots and terrorists/bigots fight each other on various platforms. At least keep the ordinary cricket fans away from all the negativity, also more we play it will bring people that much closer.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yes I would love to see India play Pakistan in a full fledged series ASAP, in fact we should play quite often like how the great rivals England and Australia play. We have fought so many wars over the years and been parties to so many tussles/bloodshed/blame games, did that stop us from playing cricket all this time? I find it a hypocritical stance of the Indian Government with regards to sporting and cultural ties with Pakistan. In fact as a cricket fan I am bored of seeing us play the same 3-4 teams year in and year out, would love to break that monotony. Let the politicians, armies, spies, journalists, patriots and terrorists/bigots fight each other on various platforms. At least keep the ordinary cricket fans away from all the negativity, also more we play it will bring people that much closer.

This is an amazing attitude for Indians fans to have, I hope most Indians cricket fans feel the same.

 

[Srtfan]

Yes 5 test, 5 odi and 3 t20,same like 2004 to 2007

 

[bantu]

Yes.....

 

[Mamoon]

I imagine that Indians who worry about Pakistan's superior H2H record in Tests and ODIs would be quite eager for bilateral ties to resume, because Pakistan is there for the taking at the moment in all formats. The win at Lord's and the Champions Trophy Final have raised the hopes of people, but we appear to have the wood over England and the Champions Trophy Final was a one-off game.

India should definitely be beating Pakistan in a Test and ODI series. The lack of bilateral cricket between the two teams in this decade is a golden opportunity missed from an Indian perspective. A Test and ODI series every other year in this decade and the H2H record would have become quite close.

There have been no Tests since 2007, and the only ODI series was in 2012/2013 when the Indian team were in transition and were phasing out their seniors. It was the perfect time to play India in this decade.

 

[Savak]

I imagine that Indians who worry about Pakistan's superior H2H record in Tests and ODIs would be quite eager for bilateral ties to resume, because Pakistan is there for the taking at the moment in all formats. The win at Lord's and the Champions Trophy Final have raised the hopes of people, but we appear to have the wood over England and the Champions Trophy Final was a one-off game.

India should definitely be beating Pakistan in a Test and ODI series. The lack of bilateral cricket between the two teams in this decade is a golden opportunity missed from an Indian perspective. A Test and ODI series every other year in this decade and the H2H record would have become quite close.

There have been no Tests since 2007, and the only ODI series was in 2012/2013 when the Indian team were in transition and were phasing out their seniors. It was the perfect time to play India in this decade.

Indians are pretty dumb and stupid to have wasted a golden opportunity to correct the superior head to head Win-Loss record Pakistan enjoys over India overall in the last 10 years which has been a golden age for Indian Cricket in terms of talent, quality, players whereas a dull phase for Pakistan. Too bad, they have been far too drunk enjoying the short satisfaction of denying Pakistan Cricket big $$$ and Pakistani players the once in a lifetime life changing $$$ financial bonanzas.

 

[ManFan]

So what? Did Australia and England stop playing the Ashes when they had dull teams during some periods?

England and Australia have a rosy government policy compared to Indo-PAK.

The thing is if after 6 years, we get a series this year between the two, it will not be definitive.

Some players are injured and out of form and therefore, only a T20 series would make for great viewing because it negates a lot of the factors.

But I get your point and the fans on both sides would be hungry for any cricket between the two.

 

[KingKhanWC]

I imagine that Indians who worry about Pakistan's superior H2H record in Tests and ODIs would be quite eager for bilateral ties to resume, because Pakistan is there for the taking at the moment in all formats. The win at Lord's and the Champions Trophy Final have raised the hopes of people, but we appear to have the wood over England and the Champions Trophy Final was a one-off game.

India should definitely be beating Pakistan in a Test and ODI series. The lack of bilateral cricket between the two teams in this decade is a golden opportunity missed from an Indian perspective. A Test and ODI series every other year in this decade and the H2H record would have become quite close.

There have been no Tests since 2007, and the only ODI series was in 2012/2013 when the Indian team were in transition and were phasing out their seniors. It was the perfect time to play India in this decade.

Excuses for India losing and excuses for Pakistan beating them but I hope the BCCI use the same line of thinking to convince the Indian government to resume ties, so we can let cricket decide who is the better team not wishy washy reasoning.

 

[another drop catch]

Iam eagerly waiting for indopak series
inshaAllah we will take revenge of aane do series

 

[Mamoon]

Excuses for India losing and excuses for Pakistan beating them but I hope the BCCI use the same line of thinking to convince the Indian government to resume ties, so we can let cricket decide who is the better team not wishy washy reasoning.

H2H results don't necessarily determine which team is better though. Certain teams tend to do well against certain teams due to multiple reasons. For e.g., Pakistan have enjoyed a lot of success against England in this decade, but the results against others - often lesser teams than England - have been inconsistent and poor.

The long-term rankings determine the better team, because it reflects the results against all teams over an extended period of time. In this decade of no bilateral cricket between Pakistan and India, India have had superior rankings than Pakistan in all formats for long periods of time, indicating the fact that they have been a better team.

Even if we assume that India would prove another England for Pakistan, the fact is that India have produced better results against all other teams, which is why they have had consistently better ranking than us.

 

[Mamoon]

Indians are pretty dumb and stupid to have wasted a golden opportunity to correct the superior head to head Win-Loss record Pakistan enjoys over India overall in the last 10 years which has been a golden age for Indian Cricket in terms of talent, quality, players whereas a dull phase for Pakistan. Too bad, they have been far too drunk enjoying the short satisfaction of denying Pakistan Cricket big $$$ and Pakistani players the once in a lifetime life changing $$$ financial bonanzas.

The satisfaction of rejecting the PCB's pleas over and over again and costing them financially, having better rankings and more success against all opposition, maintaining the unbeaten record in World Cups, making far more money and becoming a bigger and more powerful brand than Pakistan cricket probably means more to BCCI and GoI then improving their H2H record against Pakistan.

India have achieved all of the aforementioned objectives in this decade, so I don't think they consider improving the H2H record against Pakistan a missed opportunity. That is why I said that only the Indian fans who care about the H2H record would considered it an opportunity missed. Clearly, the BCCI and GoI don't fall in the same boat, because they don't appear to be interested at all in resuming bilateral ties with Pakistan.

 

[kuskash]

Would like bilaterals, result does not matter, both boards will be benefitted and both sides of players will develop more skills

 

[kingusama92]

Absolutely NOT. Few things are more important than a stupid game of cricket. Indian govt should actually refuse to play Pakistan even in ICC Events/Asia Cup and forfeit the match even if we meet in a KO.

 

[KingKhanWC]

H2H results don't necessarily determine which team is better though. Certain teams tend to do well against certain teams due to multiple reasons. For e.g., Pakistan have enjoyed a lot of success against England in this decade, but the results against others - often lesser teams than England - have been inconsistent and poor.

The long-term rankings determine the better team, because it reflects the results against all teams over an extended period of time. In this decade of no bilateral cricket between Pakistan and India, India have had superior rankings than Pakistan in all formats for long periods of time, indicating the fact that they have been a better team.

Even if we assume that India would prove another England for Pakistan, the fact is that India have produced better results against all other teams, which is why they have had consistently better ranking than us.

When Pakistan beat India away in India, 3-0 where Pakistan ranked higher in the ODI format?

 

[Tusker]

Yes I would love to see India play Pakistan in a full fledged series ASAP, in fact we should play quite often like how the great rivals England and Australia play. We have fought so many wars over the years and been parties to so many tussles/bloodshed/blame games, did that stop us from playing cricket all this time? I find it a hypocritical stance of the Indian Government with regards to sporting and cultural ties with Pakistan. In fact as a cricket fan I am bored of seeing us play the same 3-4 teams year in and year out, would love to break that monotony. Let the politicians, armies, spies, journalists, patriots and terrorists/bigots fight each other on various platforms. At least keep the ordinary cricket fans away from all the negativity, also more we play it will bring people that much closer.

Like during the 2003-2007 phase which culminated in 11/26 ?

 

[Mamoon]

When Pakistan beat India away in India, 3-0 where Pakistan ranked higher in the ODI format?

It was 2-1, not 3-0.

I don't think Pakistan have been ranked higher than India in ODIs since 2006, when we were ranked second for a few months. Australia were number one.

 

[KingKhanWC]

It was 2-1, not 3-0.

I don't think Pakistan have been ranked higher than India in ODIs since 2006, when we were ranked second for a few months. Australia were number one.

Yes my bad 2-1. The last game was a dead rubber. India were ranked higher yet Pakistan won? I dont think the rankings mean much when two rival teams meet. Everyone apart from a few Pakistan fans thought India would trash Pakistan esp playing at home but lost.

It seems most Indian fans want to see resumption of cricket ties between both nations, which is great to see. Now hoping the Indian government change their stance but if compensation is giving to Pakistan and ranking points are also awarded it might influence a change of heart from them with BCCI pressure.

 

[Mamoon]

Yes my bad 2-1. The last game was a dead rubber. India were ranked higher yet Pakistan won? I dont think the rankings mean much when two rival teams meet. Everyone apart from a few Pakistan fans thought India would trash Pakistan esp playing at home but lost.

It seems most Indian fans want to see resumption of cricket ties between both nations, which is great to see. Now hoping the Indian government change their stance but if compensation is giving to Pakistan and ranking points are also awarded it might influence a change of heart from them with BCCI pressure.

Yes that is my point, rankings do not always dictate the outcome of a particular series, and that is why the H2H record doesn't necessarily mean that the team that won is the better team. It is quite possible for some teams to play better against certain teams.

Hypothetically, Pakistan might beat India in a series, but India tends to outperform Pakistan against most teams, and that is why they are consistently ranked higher.

Performing better against a variety of opponents results in a higher rank in the long-term, which determines who the better team is. India does not have to beat Pakistan to prove that they have been the better team for a long, long time, simply because they have done better than Pakistan overall.

The GoI and BCCI seem content with isolating Pakistan cricket and denting their revenues, which seems to give them more satisfaction than improving the H2H record.

I don't blame them though, we would probably have done the same to India if we had the power and the influence to harm them.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Yes that is my point, rankings do not always dictate the outcome of a particular series, and that is why the H2H record doesn't necessarily mean that the team that won is the better team. It is quite possible for some teams to play better against certain teams.

Hypothetically, Pakistan might beat India in a series, but India tends to outperform Pakistan against most teams, and that is why they are consistently ranked higher.

Performing better against a variety of opponents results in a higher rank in the long-term, which determines who the better team is. India does not have to beat Pakistan to prove that they have been the better team for a long, long time, simply because they have done better than Pakistan overall.

The GoI and BCCI seem content with isolating Pakistan cricket and denting their revenues, which seems to give them more satisfaction than improving the H2H record.

I don't blame them though, we would probably have done the same to India if we had the power and the influence to harm them.

The government are denying their own fans the opportunity to play and beat Pakistan. Money means nothing to fans, isolating others also means nothing to most fans. Fans want to see sport being played esp against bitter rivals. India V Pakistan matches are viewed by more people than most sporting contests in the world.

India have only really performed better in regards to tests at home but you expect that when they produce rank turners 90% of the time, they have done nothing away from home. In the 50 over format they have esp beating SA in style recently but Pak has done better than India in T20 against opponents. So the conclusion is India are better at 50 over games, Pak in 20 over and not much difference between tests.

 

[giri26]

To be really frank, I don't care anymore. I am not saying this because of CT or Pakistan's recent exploits etc..If you had asked me 2 years ago, I would have said the same thing. Pakistan vs India does not excite me anymore. It is not like the 90's anymore. That ship has sailed. I know lots of Indians are on Pakpassion including myself but again we are here more due to the quality of the forum than anything else.

As an Indian fan I don't care for India vs Pakistan any more. Any place, any pitch or any result does not make any difference to me. I grew up watching cricket in the 90's, but I don't get the excitement of India-Pakistan encounters, like used to in the 90's or in 00's. I could care less if India played Pakistan or not. I know the sentiment is the same for other Indian fans as well as lots of my friends/family I speak with have the same sentiment. I don't know why but it just doesn't do it for me anymore. All these years India haven't been playing Pakistan (Since 2007 in Tests I guess?) I did not miss a thing.

I am just being honest here. Since I am on a Pakistan forum I can say, Yes I would love a series etc but that would not be the truth.

 

[JaDed]

To be really frank, I don't care anymore. I am not saying this because of CT or Pakistan's recent exploits etc..If you had asked me 2 years ago, I would have said the same thing. Pakistan vs India does not excite me anymore. It is not like the 90's anymore. That ship has sailed. I know lots of Indians are on Pakpassion including myself but again we are here more due to the quality of the forum than anything else.

As an Indian fan I don't care for India vs Pakistan any more. Any place, any pitch or any result does not make any difference to me. I grew up watching cricket in the 90's, but I don't get the excitement of India-Pakistan encounters, like used to in the 90's or in 00's. I could care less if India played Pakistan or not. I know the sentiment is the same for other Indian fans as well as lots of my friends/family I speak with have the same sentiment. I don't know why but it just doesn't do it for me anymore. All these years India haven't been playing Pakistan (Since 2007 in Tests I guess?) I did not miss a thing.

I am just being honest here. Since I am on a Pakistan forum I can say, Yes I would love a series etc but that would not be the truth.

What you are saying is true but cricket already has few teams, and I'm just tired of watch India vs Lanka,so India vs Pakistan would be great in that regard where we don't have to play Lanka so darn often.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

All indian posters saying no are just showing arrogance ,all of us want a pak vs ind series.
The whole country was so excited to watch ind vs pak even in t20 tournaments like asia cup 2016.An odi series will be fantastic to start with.

 

[AssassinatedDevil]

Not at the present moment. Probably sometime in future when Pakistani players are not in form.

Good choice

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

Pakistan team has improved considerably and this is the exact time where we can get thrilling ind vs pak matches.

 

[Third_Umpire]

To be really frank, I don't care anymore. I am not saying this because of CT or Pakistan's recent exploits etc..If you had asked me 2 years ago, I would have said the same thing. Pakistan vs India does not excite me anymore. It is not like the 90's anymore. That ship has sailed. I know lots of Indians are on Pakpassion including myself but again we are here more due to the quality of the forum than anything else.

As an Indian fan I don't care for India vs Pakistan any more. Any place, any pitch or any result does not make any difference to me. I grew up watching cricket in the 90's, but I don't get the excitement of India-Pakistan encounters, like used to in the 90's or in 00's. I could care less if India played Pakistan or not. I know the sentiment is the same for other Indian fans as well as lots of my friends/family I speak with have the same sentiment. I don't know why but it just doesn't do it for me anymore. All these years India haven't been playing Pakistan (Since 2007 in Tests I guess?) I did not miss a thing.

I am just being honest here. Since I am on a Pakistan forum I can say, Yes I would love a series etc but that would not be the truth.

I still look forward to Pakistan vs India matches, but I know what you mean about the difference between games now vs. those from 90s/00's. Pak vs. India matches back then were much more anticipated and charming. Maybe that is cricket overall.

 

[RamLakhan]

To be really frank, I don't care anymore. I am not saying this because of CT or Pakistan's recent exploits etc..If you had asked me 2 years ago, I would have said the same thing. Pakistan vs India does not excite me anymore. It is not like the 90's anymore. That ship has sailed. I know lots of Indians are on Pakpassion including myself but again we are here more due to the quality of the forum than anything else.

As an Indian fan I don't care for India vs Pakistan any more. Any place, any pitch or any result does not make any difference to me. I grew up watching cricket in the 90's, but I don't get the excitement of India-Pakistan encounters, like used to in the 90's or in 00's. I could care less if India played Pakistan or not. I know the sentiment is the same for other Indian fans as well as lots of my friends/family I speak with have the same sentiment. I don't know why but it just doesn't do it for me anymore. All these years India haven't been playing Pakistan (Since 2007 in Tests I guess?) I did not miss a thing.

I am just being honest here. Since I am on a Pakistan forum I can say, Yes I would love a series etc but that would not be the truth.

Exactly right! The contest is not bringing interest anymore. India took the CT Final casually without much preparation (without looking at what happened in England vs. Pakistan match). Not to take anything away from Pakistan they played brilliant cricket. Even though India was losing a lot of matches in 90s still there was interest and we wanted to play more. Now the only interest is to correct that H2H records. (Only fans & maybe some cricketers/ex-cricketers/media are interested about it) But BCCI or Govt. will not look at such silly matters. For them Finance & Security is all what matters.

 

[BreadPakoda]

To be really frank, I don't care anymore. I am not saying this because of CT or Pakistan's recent exploits etc..If you had asked me 2 years ago, I would have said the same thing. Pakistan vs India does not excite me anymore. It is not like the 90's anymore. That ship has sailed. I know lots of Indians are on Pakpassion including myself but again we are here more due to the quality of the forum than anything else.

As an Indian fan I don't care for India vs Pakistan any more. Any place, any pitch or any result does not make any difference to me. I grew up watching cricket in the 90's, but I don't get the excitement of India-Pakistan encounters, like used to in the 90's or in 00's. I could care less if India played Pakistan or not. I know the sentiment is the same for other Indian fans as well as lots of my friends/family I speak with have the same sentiment. I don't know why but it just doesn't do it for me anymore. All these years India haven't been playing Pakistan (Since 2007 in Tests I guess?) I did not miss a thing.

I am just being honest here. Since I am on a Pakistan forum I can say, Yes I would love a series etc but that would not be the truth.

Agree to an extent. India-Pakistan matches were big in the 90s and early 00s. I guess the gap post that has eroded the charm or maybe its the rosy retrospection, but it ain't feel the same anymore.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

If the relations between the two countries improve then certainly. Nothing better than an India Pakistan series. Much better than the overhyped Ashes .

 

[KevinFern]

No

 

[cricketjoshila]

If political situation improves then yes.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The government are denying their own fans the opportunity to play and beat Pakistan. Money means nothing to fans, isolating others also means nothing to most fans. Fans want to see sport being played esp against bitter rivals. India V Pakistan matches are viewed by more people than most sporting contests in the world.

India have only really performed better in regards to tests at home but you expect that when they produce rank turners 90% of the time, they have done nothing away from home. In the 50 over format they have esp beating SA in style recently but Pak has done better than India in T20 against opponents. So the conclusion is India are better at 50 over games, Pak in 20 over and not much difference between tests.

Then the fans can vote out the govt. If not then the govt is doing fine.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Yes my bad 2-1. The last game was a dead rubber. India were ranked higher yet Pakistan won? I dont think the rankings mean much when two rival teams meet. Everyone apart from a few Pakistan fans thought India would trash Pakistan esp playing at home but lost.

It seems most Indian fans want to see resumption of cricket ties between both nations, which is great to see. Now hoping the Indian government change their stance but if compensation is giving to Pakistan and ranking points are also awarded it might influence a change of heart from them with BCCI pressure.

Rankings point awarded? Lol for what? ICC doesnot fix bilateral tours. Boards do it themselves.

GOI will rather have BCCI walk out of ICC then to give into any pressure that comes from Pakistan.

 

[Balthazar]

As an Indian fan, India-Pakistan matches don't excite me much. When I see Pakistan Cricket, you get the same vibrant of old Cricket, where professionalism is the least of the things, and not to mention the controversies surrounding the Pakistan Cricket. This is without mentioning the current relation between the two countries. So absolutely no.

 

[Mamoon]

The government are denying their own fans the opportunity to play and beat Pakistan. Money means nothing to fans, isolating others also means nothing to most fans. Fans want to see sport being played esp against bitter rivals. India V Pakistan matches are viewed by more people than most sporting contests in the world.

India have only really performed better in regards to tests at home but you expect that when they produce rank turners 90% of the time, they have done nothing away from home. In the 50 over format they have esp beating SA in style recently but Pak has done better than India in T20 against opponents. So the conclusion is India are better at 50 over games, Pak in 20 over and not much difference between tests.

The only thing Pakistan has over India is performing in England. India trumps them on other fronts.

They did better in Australia and South Africa, and they will not lose home Tests to Sri Lanka and West Indies.

Furthermore, the notion that India wins in rank turners is overblown. In their last home season, they gave good pitches to New Zealand and England but still won.

England won the toss numerous times and piled up big totals in their first innings, but India still fought back to win.

 

[austerlitz]

Yes, it would be fun.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

To be really frank, I don't care anymore. I am not saying this because of CT or Pakistan's recent exploits etc..If you had asked me 2 years ago, I would have said the same thing. Pakistan vs India does not excite me anymore. It is not like the 90's anymore. That ship has sailed. I know lots of Indians are on Pakpassion including myself but again we are here more due to the quality of the forum than anything else.

As an Indian fan I don't care for India vs Pakistan any more. Any place, any pitch or any result does not make any difference to me. I grew up watching cricket in the 90's, but I don't get the excitement of India-Pakistan encounters, like used to in the 90's or in 00's. I could care less if India played Pakistan or not. I know the sentiment is the same for other Indian fans as well as lots of my friends/family I speak with have the same sentiment. I don't know why but it just doesn't do it for me anymore. All these years India haven't been playing Pakistan (Since 2007 in Tests I guess?) I did not miss a thing.

I am just being honest here. Since I am on a Pakistan forum I can say, Yes I would love a series etc but that would not be the truth.

Do you feel this way when playing other nations? It would be interesting to dig out the underlying reasons for this lack of interest which you claim is shared by many Indians.

 

[KingKhanWC]

The only thing Pakistan has over India is performing in England. India trumps them on other fronts.

They did better in Australia and South Africa, and they will not lose home Tests to Sri Lanka and West Indies.

Furthermore, the notion that India wins in rank turners is overblown. In their last home season, they gave good pitches to New Zealand and England but still won.

England won the toss numerous times and piled up big totals in their first innings, but India still fought back to win.

A loss is a loss. You dont do better having lost better.

India pitches turn square on days 4 or 5 even if they are good for batting on the first days. Their home advantage is huge which is why they win handsomely at home but get put to the sword abroad. Pakistan can counter this unlike other teams which is why in 2005 away in India with India having it's ATG batsmen in the top 6, Pakistan came back from 1-0 down to level the series 1-1.

No matter time or era India haven't shown they are any better than Pakistan but have proven to be worse on most occasions as the H2H record proves.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Rankings point awarded? Lol for what? ICC doesnot fix bilateral tours. Boards do it themselves.

GOI will rather have BCCI walk out of ICC then to give into any pressure that comes from Pakistan.

ICC are planning at test championship. If you dont want to play, forfeit the points simple

 

[big_gamer007]

And a cricket fan I would love to see India play Pakistan.. However the governments from both side are pretty inept and will make sure the series don’t happen so I have accepted the fact we will only play Pakistan in tournaments..

 

[cricketjoshila]

ICC are planning at test championship. If you dont want to play, forfeit the points simple

Test championship us done. Matches fixed and India doesnot play Pakistan.

Icc doesnot fix matches in the test championship. Boards will fix it and inform the ICC.

So dream on about forfeiting points. Lol.


http://www.sportstarlive.com/cricket/no-indo-pak-series-in-ftp-2019-2023/article23683697.ece


Till 2023 no matches.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Test championship us done. Matches fixed and India doesnot play Pakistan.

Icc doesnot fix matches in the test championship. Boards will fix it and inform the ICC.

So dream on about forfeiting points. Lol.


http://www.sportstarlive.com/cricket/no-indo-pak-series-in-ftp-2019-2023/article23683697.ece


Till 2023 no matches.

It's not a dream but a simple suggestion. You yourself said things can change in 12-18 months so and if then there are agreements to play but later India change their mind again the like the British weather , there should be a clause in place to forfeit points if a team refuses to play another .

In terms of a principle, Im not sure why anybody would be against such a suggestion. If you're scared of playing, at least give up something.

 

[cricketjoshila]

It's not a dream but a simple suggestion. You yourself said things can change in 12-18 months so and if then there are agreements to play but later India change their mind again the like the British weather , there should be a clause in place to forfeit points if a team refuses to play another .

In terms of a principle, Im not sure why anybody would be against such a suggestion. If you're scared of playing, at least give up something.

There never would be a long term contract between BCCI and PCB. It will be series by series as it was before.

No permanent money flow from India you see. It will only flow till Political situation is ok.

 

[KingKhanWC]

There never would be a long term contract between BCCI and PCB. It will be series by series as it was before.

No permanent money flow from India you see. It will only flow till Political situation is ok.

Then India and Pakistan can then never claim to be genuine test champions as they would have won it without playing each other. It would be like Man Utd winning the premier league without playing liverpool, it would be facre.

 

[RamLakhan]

Then India and Pakistan can then never claim to be genuine test champions as they would have won it without playing each other. It would be like Man Utd winning the premier league without playing liverpool, it would be facre.

BCCI doesn't care about any "pure" championship as such! All they care is money and safety/easiness... It is the fans (even the medias are not interested) who worry about records & strengths! Even Indian fans have gone past it... Pakistan fans can forever live in the fantasy that Pakistan is always an unbeatable undisputed No.1 side which Indians are scared playing against! Nobody will stop you....

 

[KingKhanWC]

BCCI doesn't care about any "pure" championship as such! All they care is money and safety/easiness... It is the fans (even the medias are not interested) who worry about records & strengths! Even Indian fans have gone past it... Pakistan fans can forever live in the fantasy that Pakistan is always an unbeatable undisputed No.1 side which Indians are scared playing against! Nobody will stop you....

Thank you, we will

 

[giri26]

Do you feel this way when playing other nations? It would be interesting to dig out the underlying reasons for this lack of interest which you claim is shared by many Indians.

There are multiple reasons for the lack of interest. In the 90's and 00's Pakistan were a brilliant team. A team full of stars and one of the top teams in the world. India struggled to beat Pakistan and Indian people (even though some wouldn't admit) were in awe of some of the great Pakistan cricketers. In last 10 years or so Pakistan team hasn't been the same, even though Pakistan is going through a resurgence now under Sarfaraz, the quality isn't the same. India beating Pakistan now isn't as difficult as it used to be in the 90's. Also starting the 2001/02 series India and Australia developed a rivalry which gave the Indian fans something different. And no we don't feel the same way playing the other nations as there is still the small matter of winning a series in Australia and South Africa which no Asian nation has done. England has always been a tough tour. We hate the Sri Lankan series for sure but unfortunately we are unable to get rid of it (Thanks to BCCI). We hardly play against WI and Bangladesh, so if we did we aren't too fussed about it. It is good for those nations to get some cricket, so that is a fair game.

Somewhere between all that with no Test cricket being played between the two nations for almost 11 years now, the fans have lost interest. I am not saying India shouldn't play cricket against Pakistan, it will be good to play a series as there are only few test playing nations (like someone mentioned above) but again it wouldn't bother me if we did not either. If India played Pakistan even today the stadium will be full and people will turn up to watch but I can assure you that majority of the people in India wouldn't care if it did not happen. It is nothing to do with the quality of the sides or how well Pakistan are doing right now, it is just the Indian fans had lost interest in the bilateral series long back.