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Do you have Indian friends?

JaDed said:
You know there are Hindus in Pakistan too right?
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Hindus are less than 2% of Pakistan's population. Most of them are dalits anyway so they are better off living in Pakistan rather than india
 
The recent comments of Danish Kaneria on pahalgam shows some pakistani hindus are fifth columnists and surrogates of india in Pakistan.
 
My first love was an Indian girl. It was as if Pehla Nasha was written for us two. We knew it would be short lived because of the divide between our people, and because of that time of my life even though I am now on the straight path, I still have a soft spot for India so it’s sad when India suffers and I don’t want her to be sad.

That experience shattered all propaganda for me whether anti India or pro India or pro Pakistan or anti Pakistan, and so now am propaganda proof and have transcended beyond nationality. I am part of the Ummah, and that’s that.

So whenever I see Pakistan and India in a tussle, even though I don’t believe in nationality, I feel like that scene in Captain Amreeka where he’s holding onto helicopter with one hand and the building with the other. That’s the internal conflict in my heart. 💔

So my message to Mr Modi and Mr Sharif- tear this wall down. And let us reunite. My name is Suleiman and I approve this message.
 
Yes I have some friends and colleagues. The last few days have been some tough conversations.
 
junoon said:
The recent comments of Danish Kaneria on pahalgam shows some pakistani hindus are fifth columnists and surrogates of india in Pakistan.
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Wow. So, when an Indian muslim supports Pakistan, its fine. But when a Pakistani Hindu questions Pakistan, he is filth?

Guess, ummah kind of thing should only be applicable for Muslims. For the rest of the religions, it shouldnt
 
Indian Friends both here in the UK and those that still live in India,
Plus still have family that remained in India post partition.
 
Used to have a India vs Pakistan cricket clash after school with the only 2 Sikhs in our primary school.

Sukhdeep and Amritpal vs Yousaf and cousin.

I miss those days man.
 
I haven't had any close Indian friends since student days, but still have some friends through the wife and play football with others. Get on fine with them, but no one really talks about India/Pakistan poltics in our circles which is probably just as well.
 
colleagues yes, friends no. indians are way too cliquey. in UK gujus, sikhs, south indians, all roll in their own groups.
 
i did have indian friends but fell out with them over Pakistan vs India cricket in 2011

No made any Indian friends since
 
junoon said:
This question is for Pakistanis in the diaspora. Do you have any indian friends? (or hindu indians, to be more specific)

If yes, how do you interact with them when there are tensions between india and Pakistan? Like 2002 military standoff, Mumbai 2008, or current tensions over Pulwama. Does it have an impact on your friendship?

I have no indian/hindu friends, and try to avoid any social interaction with indians unless it is completely unavoidable like tolerating them in the workplace. Even then i am tactful and avoid talking to them about politics or religion.
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I'll separate this into business and personal.

Business - an Indian Gujrati Muslim was my first boss and mentor who I owe my career to. Although we're cordial when we see each other, wouldn't consider him a friend.

I've worked as a self-employed contractor for Muslims, a Hindu and a Sikh. Most are great but one or two Muslim owners I've almost needed to beg to clear my invoices with repeated reminders over weeks/months.

The Hindu owner has generally paid me a week after my shift, and the Sikh guy pays the following day (the only business owner I've dealt with to do so). They're also two of the most generous paying. Neither have ever treated me with anything other than courtesy and fairness.

This year I bumped into a trainee on a shift. He was a Christian from Kerala but studied in Karnataka IIRC. He took an age to resolve an IT issue which I found deliciously ironic, but was clued up and couldn't be more helpful.

Never did we get into a political/religious discussion - all I needed was him doing his job as I had my hands full (which he did).

Personal - an Indian Gujrati origin Muslim is one of my closest friends. True to stereotype he's very financially driven. I also have a Sikh Dr friend but we only meet a few times a year. I don't have any Hindu friends but I keep a small social circle anyway.
 
junoon said:
Hindus are less than 2% of Pakistan's population. Most of them are dalits anyway so they are better off living in Pakistan rather than india
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Lol , you think most Sindhi Hindus in Pakistan are Dalits, sure sparky, might as well send the PTI supporters to Bengal or Kerala
 
I have a lot of Indian friends, I am more close to some of them than I am with my Pakistani friends.
 
As an Indian American, we get along just fine with the Pakistani brethren here - plus it helps that the only ones I know are highly educated and in good work positions so they aren’t one of the jingoistic masses but obviously we usually don’t discuss politics (though we do have a WhatsApp cricket group where we rib each other in jest).

Though there is one co-worker I have who is a Pakistani Shia & I get the impression he is quite critical about Pakistan.
 
rhony said:
Dude, first thing you need to do is to not generalize and paint everybody with the same brush. Be genuine when you are speaking with someone. For example, you can ask an Indian as to why he thinks Pakistan is involved in this. But be ready for any logical points he makes. You can ask Indians about the same including why they killed muslims for eating beef. I asked both of these questions to my pals who I watch cricket with and have debates. If an Indian guy killed another Indian muslim for eating beef, dont assume your colleague or Indian friend doesa the same to a muslim guy. Democracy is debating. People have different opinions and its ok as long as the debate is objective.
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rhony said:
Here, I'll even add some pointers you can ask you Indian colleagues if they are up for debate and are accusing Pakistan:

1) Why did this incident happen the same day Pakistan met all the FATF requirements. One of the actions they took was to assure that there is no support or financing to this Jaish organization.

2) How can the Indian intelligence not detect so much explosives in their own country

3) WHo will gain from this? Certainly not Pakistan. India has everything to gain politically. They have free reign in Kashmir again. They can just do whatever they want in the name of curbing terrorism and go to any lengths while garnering sympathy from the rest of the world. India has cornered CHina on the Jaish leader. Ive been reading up on news that China has been defending that guy but he claimed this attack. China cannot support this again especially when their tarrff war is on going with US. US is openly asking Pak to dismantle Jaish.

Tell your Indian colleague that your country is the victim here as this could cause financial ruin
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Apology for my late reply. But what you are suggesting is utterly ridiculous.

There are no indian colleagues at my workplace right now, but at my previous job there was one south indian. Anyway even if Pakistan was involved in Pulwama and Pahalgam attacks, and i had to interact with hindus on a daily basis at college or workplace. I still don't owe those hindu turds any explanation. There is no need for Pakistanis in foreign countries to be so defensive and apologetic when interacting with indians.

I don't ask any hindu indians for an explanation when their army of hindu thugs and rapists kills kashmiri muslims and khalistan sikhs by the thousands. I don't ask them for an explanation about india's support for terrorism in Balochistan.

Like i mentioned before i try to avoid any social interaction with an indian (or hindu indian to be more specific) unless it is completely unavoidable like tolerating them at workplace. So Pakistanis keep in mind that even if Pakistan was behind Pahalgam attacks, you still don't need to be apologetic about it with hindus around u cause you don't need to explain anything to them.
 
Suleiman said:
My first love was an Indian girl. It was as if Pehla Nasha was written for us two. We knew it would be short lived because of the divide between our people, and because of that time of my life even though I am now on the straight path, I still have a soft spot for India so it’s sad when India suffers and I don’t want her to be sad.
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Was it a case of "Love jihad"? :) :(
 
That is why it is not a good idea to have indian (hindu) friends. A war between india and Pakistan can happen anytime and it makes interacting with them awkward.

The reality is there is such a deep hatred between hindus and Muslims that it is best to stay out of each other's way.
 
junoon said:
That is why it is not a good idea to have indian (hindu) friends. A war between india and Pakistan can happen anytime and it makes interacting with them awkward.

The reality is there is such a deep hatred between hindus and Muslims that it is best to stay out of each other's way.
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In times like these, its better to exercise respectful distance and silence rather than indulging in hardcore debates with your friends.
 
I have indian friends who are born and raised Americans. They are my best friends. I also have Indian employees from india working for my business who are so demure it’s hard to imagine indians acting tough online.
 
I had an Indian Muslim friend in secondary school but me and him grew apart after we both left school and I have had no contact with him ever since. But other than him, I have had zero Indian friends and I have no desire to make another Indian friend. I will never in a million years be fiends with an Indian Hindu even if my life depended on it.
 
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Rajdeep said:
I am posting on an internet discussion forum on topics in relation to India. Now jog on.
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Plenty of Indian forums on the internet where you and like minded individuals can have a discussion about India. But you come to a Pakistan forum despite disliking Pakistan and Pakistanis. That is sad.

I personally have a strong dislike for India and most Indians and will never in a million years sign up on an Indian internet forum.
 
psyoptica said:
I have indian friends who are born and raised Americans. They are my best friends. I also have Indian employees from india working for my business who are so demure it’s hard to imagine indians acting tough online.
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They are polite in real life because they don't want to get fired I guess. :qdkcheeky

Their real faces show up online due to anonymity.
 
rpant_gabba said:
With the one doing the celebration or all Indians?

Full disclosure: don't have any Pak friends, acquaintances or coworkers
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All ties but I may be rebuild again with some.

The next phase requires me to be fully prepared to put Indians in their place and shut down Indian propaganda. I can't do this is if I have personal ties to Indians as it may effect my judgement and bring emotions into play.
 
Bhaijaan said:
Big country bro
You gotta tell which state / religion Bharatiya you encountered
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From different locations.

Odisha, Gujaratis, punjabis, south Indians etc.

Anyway, I am not saying they are all bad. But, overall, I found them more selfish than many other nationalities. :inti
 
sweep_shot said:
From different locations.

Odisha, Gujaratis, punjabis, south Indians etc.

Anyway, I am not saying they are all bad. But, overall, I found them more selfish than many other nationalities. :inti
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All the states you mentioned have people with different personalities totally in general with not much in common :asif
 
Pakistanis and indians in foreign countries tend to have unity as south asians or brown asians when they feel threatened by overt racism from whites.
But now overt racism has subsided in most western countries so we are back to hating each other.
 
sweep_shot said:
From different locations.

Odisha, Gujaratis, punjabis, south Indians etc.

Anyway, I am not saying they are all bad. But, overall, I found them more selfish than many other nationalities. :inti
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Indians born in the west are completely different from the indian migrants. Most indians i have encountered are opportunistic and selfish like you said but they never dare challenge authority. They are also very discerning and discriminate their own kind based on caste and region.
 
Nay. I don't have any...Not planning to make 1. Not many indian out here anyway.
 
Once our Indian nanny told my wife that they prefer working in Pakistani houses as there's less bickering on petty matters like food, utilities, payments and the households are cleaner.
 
I have both Indian and Pakistani friends, this is what I observed -

Punjabis are kinda same on both sides. Jigray yaar divided by stupid line.

Karachiites are very similar to Delhiwala or UPwala. A Muhajir phenomena?

Gujaratis are super nice but indugle in gloating once in a while. I get along with them fine, very hygienic. They stick to Church's chicken, no beef for them.

Indian Bengalis Hindus I found to be most radical, especially female bong. Super stinky.

Pune'kars are chill, and do not indulge in politics, very left leaning. They have a good vibe.

Mumbaikars, well it depends on religion. A Muslim gave me an account of Indian atrocities and dread of going back to India after all his pathways to Canadian PR closed.

Best Indians I interacted with are ones from Africa, mostly from Kutch region. These people have no hatred.
 
I have many Indian friends and even employees. All of them are very friendly in real life and we banter about all sorts of stuff from cricket matches to even war without getting offended. The meme game from both sides have made these interactions a lot less awkward.

Some are kattar Hindus supporting RSS and the Akhand Bharat philosophy. They're very happy at the moment with the Indian strikes. Good thing is, in abroad we get news from both sides. So as a Pakistani, it is my duty to give them our prespective and often they tend to see their through the lies of their media.

One point though that none of them can argue against is that they have to give up their Indian citizenship when they become citizens of another country (they don't have dual citizenship like Pakistan). So my go to is to taunt them that kya yaar you're not even Indian. What happened to your patriotism, you gave up your passport.
 
daytrader said:
I have many Indian friends and even employees. All of them are very friendly in real life and we banter about all sorts of stuff from cricket matches to even war without getting offended. The meme game from both sides have made these interactions a lot less awkward.

Some are kattar Hindus supporting RSS and the Akhand Bharat philosophy. They're very happy at the moment with the Indian strikes. Good thing is, in abroad we get news from both sides. So as a Pakistani, it is my duty to give them our prespective and often they tend to see their media for it really is.

One point though that none of them can argue against is that they have to give up their Indian passport when they become citizens of another country (they don't have dual citizenship like Pakistan). So my go to is to taunt them that kya yaar you're not even Indian. What happened to your patriotism, you gave up your passport.
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Indians are opportunistic. Their patriotism is fake. They discriminate other indians which is kinda funny. I have never seen this phenomenon with any other nationality
 
Tera Gawaandi said:
I have both Indian and Pakistani friends, this is what I observed -

Punjabis are kinda same on both sides. Jigray yaar divided by stupid line.

Karachiites are very similar to Delhiwala or UPwala. A Muhajir phenomena?

Gujaratis are super nice but indugle in gloating once in a while. I get along with them fine, very hygienic. They stick to Church's chicken, no beef for them.

Indian Bengalis Hindus I found to be most radical, especially female bong. Super stinky.

Pune'kars are chill, and do not indulge in politics, very left leaning. They have a good vibe.

Mumbaikars, well it depends on religion. A Muslim gave me an account of Indian atrocities and dread of going back to India after all his pathways to Canadian PR closed.

Best Indians I interacted with are ones from Africa, mostly from Kutch region. These people have no hatred.
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So in short generalization doesn’t work for Bharat. Big country and all types of personalities you described. Even among Sikhs; there are many personality types across subregions. Also not all of them Khalistanis
 
psyoptica said:
Indians are opportunistic. Their patriotism is fake. They discriminate other indians which is kinda funny. I have never seen this phenomenon with any other nationality
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True. They will easily jump ship if they see a slightly better monetary opportunity. They're a diverse group though, many don't even tend to speak Hindi. India certainly needs enemity with Pakistan to keep it unified.
 
I recently did an interview with a firm and I didn’t know before the interview that it was a firm full of Indians with their main office in India. But regardless, I really wanted the job as it was a significant increase in pay from my current job. But I got rejected and I was extremely disappointed. However, Allah does what is best for his people and it was the best thing that could have happened to me, especially considering the current climate. There is no way I could have ever worked with Indians, let alone Hindus. No chance. I was a complete idiot for even applying to that job.
 
The_KING said:
I recently did an interview with a firm and I didn’t know before the interview that it was a firm full of Indians with their main office in India. But regardless, I really wanted the job as it was a significant increase in pay from my current job. But I got rejected and I was extremely disappointed. However, Allah does what is best for his people and it was the best thing that could have happened to me, especially considering the current climate. There is no way I could have ever worked with Indians, let alone Hindus. No chance. I was a complete idiot for even applying to that job.
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I don't know how it is like in UK. But, here in Canada, Indians often hire only Indians if they get into management positions. They do all sorts of unethical things.

Here is one example (from TikTok):

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sweep_shot said:
I don't know how it is like in UK. But, here in Canada, Indians often hire only Indians if they get into management positions. They do all sorts of unethical things.

Here is one example (from TikTok):

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The reason I didn’t get the job was because I am a Pakistani Muslim. I knew speaking to the guy that was interviewing me, that I wasn’t going to get the job. The guy felt like a hardline Hindu Modi supporter. I didn’t get positive vibes from him. I thank Allah that I wasn’t hired by them.
 
junoon said:
Pakistanis and indians in foreign countries tend to have unity as south asians or brown asians when they feel threatened by overt racism from whites.
But now overt racism has subsided in most western countries so we are back to hating each other.
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My impression is that Indians are kind of happy that Muslims are the targets of racism these days, it takes a bit of the heat off them. That is why you get so many of them joining hands with the whites Priti Patel style...."look we are with you! Please like us!!"
 
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