Does 'being good' mean little in ODIs/T20Is if you don't win the silverware?

[bujhee kom]

This relates more to England and India who currently have their best ever LOI sides. If they do not collect the cups to reflect the quality - does it amount to 'a big nothing'?

You feel E/I are at their peaks and may not get a better chance for these superb players to get their rewards.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

This applies more to nz.

 

[Sir Alex]

South Africa is perfect example of this. Historically been a great ODI side but has hardly any multinational silver to show off. Just thr 1998 CT I think

 

[WengerOut]

For a team, yes they have to win something tangible. For individual players, no because it is a team game after all.

 

[hadi123]

Yes, at the end of the day, no one remembers bilateral series but people will always remember silverware.

 

[Sachin136]

Yes for a team. It doesn't matter for specific players as long as they do well in tournaments.

 

[happydavy]

How's this India's best side? Top 5 of our batting lineup consists of KL Rahul, Vijay Shankar and Jadhav. We have an incredibly successful top 3 (assuming dhawan being fit) but a very ordinary middle order.

 

[pakistani pride]

Of course, who cares about JAMODIS. In white ball cricket its the trophies that matter.

 

[Chokli]

How's this India's best side? Top 5 of our batting lineup consists of KL Rahul, Vijay Shankar and Jadhav. We have an incredibly successful top 3 (assuming dhawan being fit) but a very ordinary middle order.

For the first time in your history you have the best batsman and best bowler in the world.

It sucks you lost Dhawan though

Kohli + Sharma just need to put runs on the board and Kuldeep, Chahal, Jasprit will do the rest

 

[Pete Rose]

It depends on the pedigree of the team: for instance, I would call the current Bangladesh team, good because they are able to bat big. Their batsmen and style of play is keeping up with the trends. Their bowling is still a work in progress, but it’s only a matter of time.
As opposed to say South Africa: they’ve had a pretty good team for most of the time since re-admission but they have not won any trophies.