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Does Fakhar Zaman merit a place in the lineup anymore?

Yeah he is rubbish bring back Ahmed shehzad, he was always in pak WC squads from 2009 T20, thats why they performed so well.
 
saeedhk said:
He does have mental blocks. He looks totally clueless out there. Keeps getting out to off-stump outswingers.
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That's not mental weakness. His technique is flawed.

I have seen good bowlers cramping him for room by bowling to his body and then setting him up with the away going delivery.

Suresh Raina has struggled to deal with short pitched bowling throughout his career. That didn't make him an altogether bad batsman. He still won many a games for his teams.
 
zulfiqar said:
Fakhar, Imam and Babar should retain their positions for this whole WC regardless of whether they fail. We have to count on them. Same as Hafeez for #4 and Sarfaraz as #5. No changes to these spots. Only spots 6 & 7 can be played with.. we honestly have no good options for those spots so I don't care too much who they try there. Imad Wasim deserves a chance again at some point because at least he can give useful overs & fields well. In batting they're all the same (Malik/Imad/Asif.. with Harris being slightly better)
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Sarfaraz has to move down from 5 to let either Malik or whoever take the 5 slot. Sarfaraz can also be made to open as a hit out and no loss wicket like it was done in 2015 Pak v SA. No 5 in most cases has to take you across the line. Sarfaraz is not capable of that
 
MMHS said:
He is an asset in this PAK team. Guy is an honest trier and never plays for personal milestone. He has his flaws, but he is effective as well on his day (a hack, but an effective hack - [MENTION=143344]babajee[/MENTION] ;-) ). He goes after the bowling and one thing for sure, if he fails, it'll be quick death - he won't cost valuable balls in PP. But, the day he delivers, almost anything is possible - PAK's middle order wasted his wonderful effort, otherwise most other teams would have chased even 373 from the start that he gave. If Fakhar delivers one out of 5 innings (if we take 50 as a minimum bench mark, 1 out of 3.5~4.5 is outstanding return), he is doing his job perfectly.

Having said that, with his technique, once his eye sight & reflex declines, he'll be a liability for batting line-up, therefore PAK should get the best out of his remaining max. 2-3 years of career at peak (open in T20I, bat at 3 in ODI and bat at 6 in Test), and shouldn't burden him with Captaincy.
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I wanna smoke what this guy is smoking! This is hilarious! Repeat after me! "FAKHR ZAMAN IS NOT A BATSMAN"

Its so obvious to see! Just watch the man's feet, none existent footwork, will literally chase anything and everything without any feet movement which is just a recipe for disaster, cant pick spinners, which is why he is always off balance and 1 half decent ball away from getting stumped/bowled/lbw, same reason why he is always looking for that slog sweep hoik over midwicket. He has horrible shot selection, has absolutely no patience... and cant get down in the trenches and play that ugly cricket (which at times is required). Besides that I dont think i have ever seen the man hit a cover drive in his life...how are you an opening batsman if you dont have that shot in your arsenal...

He just came off once in that India game in the CT final 2 years ago and that has prolonged his career to this point...not to mention those joke of a series against Zimbabwe... and the system is so blind to all these faults in his game yet we keep persisting that one day he will come off...now thats a great strategy innit? I wishes he performs, i Really do...but he is just not a true batsman....look at the other openers across the world...they look like they've atleast had some form of professional training. Absolute waste of space !
 
Is Fakhar Zaman a one-game wonder?

There were talks about Fakhar setting the WC stage on fire because he loves playing on ENG pitches and he's a tournament player and stuff. He's had two ducks and his highest score in the tournament so far was 62 which came against IND in a losing cause. I don't recollect one match-winning impactful knock of his against a top opponent after the CT Final in these 2 years besides his T20 knock against AUS. A player like Haris has won more games in the WC for PAK Fakhar. Is he really a one-game wonder?
 
He is the luckiest player in the team. Imagine if Bumrah hadn’t no balled in the champions trophy final, he would have been dropped a while ago. He has no technique. It’s embarrassing seeing this guy play for us.
 
He had technical and mental issues.If he can sort them out then he should be dropped.U19 opener Haider Ali looks a good prospect.PCB needs to be bold and drop players if they are not performing.They made a big blunder by sticking with Hafeez and Malik all these years.Both are mediocre players.
 
Not if he keeps produces innings like that.

He needs to use the summer off to work on his technical issues, especially against spin as he was completely tied down by Mehidy in that first PP.
 
Abdullah said:
Oh my. He scored 150 odd 6 7 games ago.
He will be hit or miss.
Pak fans are honestly clueless.
You guys deserve mukhtar ahmeds and khuram manzoors,
You will be changing players every 1 n a half series
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Thats what hit and miss means. Scores 100 and then next 10 inns nothing.
 
Fakhar Zaman needs to be dropped

Can't remember the last time the guy played a major innings. Mickey Arthur loved him but don't think Misbah will tolerate his pathetic form for very long. It took Misbah one series to get Sarfaraz out of there.
 
Fakhar is not a proper batsman and bound to fail against better bowlers.
 
His fluke patch is over. A dreadful batsman who needs 3-4 chances against a good team to score runs. He is not getting those chances anymore.
 
I think this series should be his last chance. If he flops, maybe time for him to be dropped.
 
You don't have anyone to replace him. He can hit big. He is a clutch player. Stick with him.
 
Is this not embarrassing enough? Are you guys actually waiting for Fakhar to admit in public that is a hack? You guys benched Imam for this guy!!
 
Have to admit... Imam has become a better opening batsman than Zaman.
 
I never expected him to well in Australia due to his technique against the short ball. But the way he got out was pathetic. He should be dropped now, he's had enough chances. He averages around 10 or less in T20Is in 2019.
 
He produces a decent knock every 3-4 games. Afridi used to do it every 6-7 games
 
Seems like he is finding it hard to adjust his game at the highest level. Getting stuck at the pitch shows his lack of confidence. Looks like a baseball player. Imam has much better technique.
 
Mickey Arthur on Fakhar

"Fakhar Zaman, if he has 10 innings, he can go well in 3 and he'll win you those games. He brings you something different. I'd bring Mohammad Hasnain in the next match to bowl in the middle overs and open with Imad and Amir"
 
This Australian series might be a last chance for him. Average of 9 over 12 T20Is is ridiculous.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Fakhar Zaman last 12 scores in T20Is:<br><br>2<br>0<br>0<br>6<br>7<br>17<br>14<br>4<br>11<br>24<br>11<br>14<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AUSvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AUSvPAK</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1191633973472092163?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In the last 12 months Fakhar Zaman's average in T20Is is 9.16, with a highest score of 24 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/AUSvPAK?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#AUSvPAK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cricket</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1191634732225880065?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 5, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Sadly needs to be dropped. simply not offering anything at the top of the order in the team.
 
It depends on Misbah. If Misbah is happy with him he can even play next 3 years without any problem.
 
I would have taken Malik and Hafeez over this guy any day. You can't go and wait for 20 innings for his fluke good innings. We wasted decades by holding on to Afridi, at least Afridi bowled well and his good innings were devastating for the opposition, so should just move on from Fakhar already.
 
I have a soft spot for him after the CT innings- a great innings- one of the greatest played by any player from PK but he has been poor for a long time.
 
how many more chances will he get ? Likes of Umar Amin, Ahsan Ali, Umar Siddiq are already way past him in terms of capability .... but knowing the gutter-man, he will play him in the next match and in the next series.. bcz thts what the sick mentality of the gutter-man is ....
 
Mickey Arthur speaking on TV:


"If you replace Fakhar, you bring in Imam-ul-Haq whose game has gone to another level, he's been proficient in the other formats. His T20 game has got a lot better but if you put him at the top, it's more of the same with Imam, Haris and Rizwan who are all similar players. If you lose Babar early, you could get caught up a bit in terms of the scoring rate. Maybe you can get Iftikhar in up the order; I'd give Fakhar till the end of the series. You've gotta keep someone there who is different and taking pressure off Babar. You've got to get Haris there when the spinners are on. What the quicks will do with him is bowl bouncers and he'll duck them. I'd give him the license to come in and take on the spinners. I'd like to see Asif going in earlier too. If you do that, you can have Iftikhar finishing the innings which gives you a better balance"
 
He knows his time is up. Too many failures. Imam should not have been selected for T20 regardless of National T20/PSL form - he's fine for ODI/Tests --- T20 is good chance to try out Zeeshan/Ahsan etc
 
If it was bad luck, you could argue he deserves more chances, but he looks spent, looks short of confidence and frankly clueless.
 
I haven't seen such sharp decline of a player in long, long time. Bob Massie may be, but he had other issues and he was like one Test wonder. Even Sadagoppan Ramesh could make a come back in that IND line-up ....

FZ has lost confidence completely, has lost his shape, and probably totally clueless about his game with too much coaching. To complicate things, now Arthur is gone also and if I express my true feelings about the bating coaching capability of Misbah (PAK as a whole), trolls will again come back to settle scores in some other avenue. He is officially almost 30, therefore can't say either that a year in domestics can improve situation.

May be he should take a break from PCT, so that at least his PSL stake remains intact - at this rate, he might struggle to crack a Gold contract.
 
This situation begs the question, was he really that good or was it just a golden few innings for him?
 
Currently right now, he doesn't merit a spot due to obvious bad form. But who are you gonna replace him with? Granted, I didn't see any highlights of him but the closest person I see is Awaiz Zia since he was leading run scorer in the national t20 cup.
 
Hasan, Faheem, Fakhar, Shadab..Mickey's handpicked young brigade couldn't even last a couple years lol. Three down one to go.
 
Mickey has it spot on again, and that is why fakhar gets the long rope. Give him the last game and then u need to get some1 else in.
You can not have imam Babar haris Riz as ur top 4
 
I still believe in him but I think he needs to be in domestic for a little bit to sort out of his game. Luckily, after the next T20, Pakistan are mostly playing Test matches for the next little while, so hopefully he can start playing in domestic, play a few games in FC and eventually PSL and hopefully get his game back.
 
Nasty Naz said:
I still believe in him but I think he needs to be in domestic for a little bit to sort out of his game. Luckily, after the next T20, Pakistan are mostly playing Test matches for the next little while, so hopefully he can start playing in domestic, play a few games in FC and eventually PSL and hopefully get his game back.
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Another yasir hameed
If only sami aslam had been given the same opportunities
 
Saj said:
This situation begs the question, was he really that good or was it just a golden few innings for him?
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He has a double century in odi!
He has been programmed to let rip at the start of the powerplay bcause azhar ali, imam and babar cant.
2 things :
Firstly, he needs to be reprogrmmed to be more selective with his shots, doesn't matter if the run rate is poor, he can make up for it later.
Secondly, he needs a hard hitting partner to take the pressure off him, a shajeel or someone.

In t20s, babar will open, no mattet what so maybe better for fakhar to bat lower down the order at 5/6.

I say programmed because his a former fauji from the navy, he needs a controlling officier who tells him exactly what to do and he will do it. He was told to up the run rate in the power play by mickey in the champions trophy and he is still in that mode. At the moment most of his dismisals have been caught out, slogging, trying to score boundaries, needs to be reprogrammed to bat through the match, taking less risks.
 
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No, he need to go back to first class and fix his issues. Abid ali can replace him, smililarly for Haris "He is not a T20 player"
 
I think people let performances of one format effect their perception about the player. There is no doubt he has been poor in T20s but in ODIs after a poor WC he has just scored 2 50s against Srl.

In T20s he can only be replaced if either Sharjeel Khan or Ahsan Ali are in the squad as suggestions of Abid Ali etc with Babar, Rizwan and Haris around is a recipe for disaster.
 
Titan24 said:
I think people let performances of one format effect their perception about the player. There is no doubt he has been poor in T20s but in ODIs after a poor WC he has just scored 2 50s against Srl.

In T20s he can only be replaced if either Sharjeel Khan or Ahsan Ali are in the squad as suggestions of Abid Ali etc with Babar, Rizwan and Haris around is a recipe for disaster.
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Why replace him, why not partner him with shajeel(if he can play like he did pre ban) and also play ahsan ali, as well as ifti and kusdil shah. All of these guys plus babar and imad would make for a proper top 7 in a t20 team.
 
StreetSmart said:
No, he need to go back to first class and fix his issues. Abid ali can replace him, smililarly for Haris "He is not a T20 player"
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He will murder domestic bowling! Shezad and Akmal have been 'fixing' issues in domestics for years now. First class cricket will not challenge a batsman of Fakhar's calibre.

Fakhar is a grounded athlete, that itself is a great advantage. He maintains his fitness, looks after himself, does nothing stupid and goes about his business in a quiet way.

Fakhar's strengths are still there, when he hits it stays hit, he's not a timid batsman and possess unbelievable timing. A naturally gifted batsman.

Where he needs help is the balls that he cannot score off. He needs to learn to play in the V and also learn to rotate strike better. Fakhar needs to spend time with a batting coach who understands his mentality. That unfortunately is not Misbah.
 
shortbread said:
He will murder domestic bowling! Shezad and Akmal have been 'fixing' issues in domestics for years now. First class cricket will not challenge a batsman of Fakhar's calibre.

Fakhar is a grounded athlete, that itself is a great advantage. He maintains his fitness, looks after himself, does nothing stupid and goes about his business in a quiet way.

Fakhar's strengths are still there, when he hits it stays hit, he's not a timid batsman and possess unbelievable timing. A naturally gifted batsman.

Where he needs help is the balls that he cannot score off. He needs to learn to play in the V and also learn to rotate strike better. Fakhar needs to spend time with a batting coach who understands his mentality. That unfortunately is not Misbah.
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then to me, the solution is to send our top-notch players to play county cricket and play big-bash league. can PCB afford it?
 
Captain caveman said:
Why replace him, why not partner him with shajeel(if he can play like he did pre ban) and also play ahsan ali, as well as ifti and kusdil shah. All of these guys plus babar and imad would make for a proper top 7 in a t20 team.
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I agree and if these players are selected and retained without much chopping and changing it can be a pretty good T20 lineup eventually
 
StreetSmart said:
then to me, the solution is to send our top-notch players to play county cricket and play big-bash league. can PCB afford it?
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Our domestic structure has improved and in couple of years quality of our players will improve as well.
 
Saj said:
Fakhar played County - he was awful.
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He played in Natwest T20 blast but to be honest T20 is the format he has been struggling for quite a while, even in 2019 PSL other than a knock or two he was ordinary. In ODIs he still has been OK except the forgettable WC.
 
StreetSmart said:
and still playing in the team, so who should be responsible now? Selection
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Lack of options is the main issue. Ahsan Ali could have been in the squad as I have mentioned earlier as well as the attacking opener option other than that there is no attacking opener who has shown something in recent times. With possibility of Sharjeel coming back there will be another option.
 
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He has had enough time to turn things around, he has failed. Time to try someone else. Bored of seeing him being worked out and then giving his wicket away.
 
It's sad to see the way he let the fame get to his head he even said he got "overconfident" seems he thought he had made it as is so common in Pakistan. Need to drop him he can't score against Zimbabwe or even in the PSL against Rahat Ali/Saqib Mahmood. He needs to earn his way back in the side can't keep playing like this.
 
Not anymore. I would prefer Imam ul Haq over him for crying out loud!
 
What exactly are they expecting him to do in NZ. Cause if you haven't been watching cricket in the last year or two, he's been struggling. A LOT.
 
In ODI's since the start of the 2019 World Cup his stats (excluding the 2 Sri Lanka innings in which he scored 130 runs combined against a second string SL side) are as follows:

Mats - 9
Runs - 188
Ave - 20.9
SR - 82
HS - 62
50's - 1

In T20I's his stats since the start of 2019 are as follows:

Mats - 14
Runs - 132
Ave - 10
SR - 110
HS - 36

Those are tailender type numbers he's been putting up for 2 years now, and he can't even score against Zimbabwe for crying out loud.

Yes he needs to be dropped!
 
QalandarFan said:
In ODI's since the start of the 2019 World Cup his stats (excluding the 2 Sri Lanka innings in which he scored 130 runs combined against a second string SL side) are as follows:

Mats - 9
Runs - 188
Ave - 20.9
SR - 82
HS - 62
50's - 1

In T20I's his stats since the start of 2019 are as follows:

Mats - 14
Runs - 132
Ave - 10
SR - 110
HS - 36

Those are tailender type numbers he's been putting up for 2 years now, and he can't even score against Zimbabwe for crying out loud.

Yes he needs to be dropped!
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That's shocking stats
 
Fakhar's inning is painful tonight - surely he can score quicker?
 
played such a match losing knock in a crucial match. He played so many deliveries yet didn't get settle for a big knock
 
He looks the worst he ever has done as a player right now. The way he can play decent spin is a huge concern.
 
He never got going today. Stop/start innings which was frankly ugly.

He created pressure on Hafeez and it also meant that Dunk didn't come into bat until the 13th over.
 
Its evident that Fakhar was trying to obtain more crease time which was good to see rather then holing out after a couple of balls.

Once there is a balance between his aggression and more tempered approach, we will see the true Fakhar Zaman.
 
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