Does fronting popular TV shows suit someone of the stature of Wasim Akram and Shoaib Akhtar?

[Savak]

Am personally very disappointed, i mean is this what someone as Legendary as Wasim has been reduced too? I mean he could be doing so much more productive by coaching at the NCA or in the Karachi academy, same goes for Shoaib. I mean whose idea was it to encourage these guys to make a fool of themselves on that show which goes against their image.

You will never see a self respecting Indian Cricketer resort to such means to make a living.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

Pretty childish.

 

[Rayyman]

They have humble backgrounds themselves

 

[ManFan]

Please stop with the humble background excuse. They have been earning top money for 20 ( Shoaib) and 30 ( Wasim ) years.

 

[coy0607]

Akhtar comes across as a total illiterate and a clown in that show

The other day he went to a random girl and gave her a prize and told her it was his 'Sadaqa'
Does this guy even understand what he's doing?! Some of the stuff he says is absurd

Compare Shoaib to someone like Afridi who comes across much better now that he's running his foundation full time

And to answer your question, PCB doesn't want Shoaib or Wasim's services. These guys can't force their way to the academies. But there's gotta be better stuff that can be doing with their time

 

[King-Misbah]

There is nothing wrong with them presenting on the show. They can do what they want. These hosts earn top dollar!

 

[Junaids]

What stature does Shoaib Akhtar have?

He took less Test wickets than Ishant Sharma or Tim Southee.

He is a complete nobody.

 

[ManFan]

The fact that Shoaib Akhtar even played cricket for as long as he did is a testament to his ability. Akhtar has inspired millions of kids in Pakistan while Southee and Ishant could only dream of doing so.

 

[King-Misbah]

What stature does Shoaib Akhtar have?

He took less Test wickets than Ishant Sharma or Tim Southee.

He is a complete nobody.

May be look at his impact. I will give you a clue, look at Akhtars average and strike rate. He is also the fastest bowler ever.

 

[kingusama92]

I feel Shoaib Akhtar is living out his dream more than anything else.

During his playing days, he would often refer to the movies he's been offered by Bollywood/Lollywood. There's nothing wrong with pursuing it after retirement if that's what he's always wanted.

 

[MenInG]

One of the contestants clearly impressed by skills of both said "I cannot believe that these 2 were such big cricketers, they look like they have been TV presenters for a long time"

An unintentional comment but kinda tells you something.

 

[proud_pakistani]

What's the big deal. They are enjoying themselves and making money on it in a lawful way.

 

[Sam18696]

And what's wrong with being a TV host? Seriously Pakistanis are really self conscious

 

[Pete Rose]

I think it's fantastic.

 

[Bewal Express]

At least it stops them being useless and carping like Sohail, Latif, Yousef, Basit etc. How much do they get paid?

 

[Junaids]

He is also the fastest bowler ever.

No, he is not.

His fastest ball was 100.23 mph.

Sylvester Clarke bowled a spell at The Wanderers in which every ball registered 98, 99, 100 or 101 mph, and five separate deliveries were measured at 101 mph.

And Jeff Thomson was only ever measured once, at a time when he was unexpectedly called out of the bar while drunk and unfit in the middle of a six month ban. This is a man who once hit the sight screen on the full with a bouncer!

Shoaib was possibly the third quickest bowler of all time though.

 

[wrongun]

I think Shoaib just likes to be famous- he likes the attention, the spotlight, the buzz, glitz, glamour, girls etc. It would be a huge comedown for a guy like him to live a fairly "humble" life as a coach for the next generation. Some people would get a real deep satisfaction from doing that, but SHoaib isn't that kind of person.

Coaching an academy for the PCB would probably mean an order of magnitude pay reduction for Wasim from what he can earn hosting & commentating around the world. No matter how wealthy, one's mind naturally goes to- "What if I were sick or it all ended today, could I maintain my current lifestyle for my family for the next X decades..?" In that scenario, even Wasim probably thinks he should still keep earning while he can.

In Australia respected captain & CA board member Mark Taylor does TV adverts for air conditioners etc. No-one questions his right to earn a dollar as he sees fit- though sometimes we poke fun at him about it!

 

[Slog]

They are earning upwards of PKR 20crore from this stint

Anyone would take this gig. Get off your high horse

 

[Arham_PakFan]

They can do as they wish.

 

[ExpressPacer]

I don't see what's wrong in it. The public loves it. They aren't making fools out of themselves like some other people and most of all, their making big, big, BIIIIG money without being corrupt.

 

[thelandofthebravepeople]

I saw 10 minutes of the show. Have no Idea what it's about.

But honestly I can't see anything wrong with it? Why should they live the way people want them or do stuff their fans think suits their image? If they enjoy doing tv and making money from it then GO for it! Live the way you want. Sorry but some people talk as if they signed an adult film, lol.

They making money in an honest way. Doing a family tv show. I support them.

 

[theariezman]

Well if Indian batsman can host a laughter show then why not our cricket greats host a game show.

 

[shaz619]

No, he is not.

His fastest ball was 100.23 mph.

Sylvester Clarke bowled a spell at The Wanderers in which every ball registered 98, 99, 100 or 101 mph, and five separate deliveries were measured at 101 mph.

And Jeff Thomson was only ever measured once, at a time when he was unexpectedly called out of the bar while drunk and unfit in the middle of a six month ban. This is a man who once hit the sight screen on the full with a bouncer!

Shoaib was possibly the third quickest bowler of all time though.

Nope, Shoaib is the first to be recorded bowling over 100mph and has unofficially registered speeds in excess of 101mph. Mohammad Zahid has also unofficially bowled in excess of 101mph.

 

[AnOrdinaryPakistani]

What's the big deal. They are enjoying themselves and making money on it in a lawful way.

There are lots of other ways to make money than to be part of these sense less circus shows which they always throw at our faces in every ramazan.
I think these two people are really good at speaking skill, they may pursue their careers in commentary. Wasim akram did it few times in past.

 

[Saj]

Time for my familiar saying:

Money talks, player and ex-player walks.

These guys would do anything for a quick dollar.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

There are lots of other ways to make money than to be part of these sense less circus shows which they always throw at our faces in every ramazan.
I think these two people are really good at speaking skill, they may pursue their careers in commentary. Wasim akram did it few times in past.

I watched a few clips of the show,Shoaib acts like a fool sometimes but Wasim is fine.Overall much better than other shows

 

[coy0607]

Time for my familiar saying:

Money talks, player and ex-player walks.

These guys would do anything for a quick dollar.

ANYONE on this forum would do anything (less illegal or immoral) for a quick dollar. What sane person wouldn't?

These guys have families like the rest of us who they want to provide for

 

[Saj]

ANYONE on this forum would do anything (less illegal or immoral) for a quick dollar. What sane person wouldn't?

These guys have families like the rest of us who they want to provide for

Disagree.

Everyone would not. Some have their dignity and respect and would want to be remembered for what they achieved and not strange tv shows.

 

[proud_pakistani]

There are lots of other ways to make money than to be part of these sense less circus shows which they always throw at our faces in every ramazan.
I think these two people are really good at speaking skill, they may pursue their careers in commentary. Wasim akram did it few times in past.

OK but who are we to judge. There are thousands of Pakistani's who like the fact that Shoaib and Wasim are hosting this show. Some might think they are making a fool of themselves but to each his own. It's a personal decision. Maybe they saw an opportunity to do something different and took it up. You see some great actors acting in bad movies, does that mean they are harming their image? No, they just tried something different and it wasn't great and you move on.

 

[coy0607]

Disagree.

Everyone would not. Some have their dignity and respect and would want to be remembered for what they achieved and not strange tv shows.

Dignity is a matter of perspective. You may think what they're doing isn't dignified, but someone from a different background may be perfectly okay with it. As long as they aren't doing something illegal or immoral, they're okay.

To be honest, someone would have a problem with them regardless of what they're doing (people had problems with Wasim when he was coaching IPL, and with Shoaib when he was an analyst for Geo...)

 

[PakLFC]

This Maula Jat-Noora Nath thing they had going was so embarrassing. Hosting programmes requires a talent that these two do not have. It is obvious from how they act that they have not been trained at all or anything like that. Shoaib saying "bismillah" before some stupid so called challenge only exposes his ignorance.

 

[Chief Destroyer]

No, he is not.

His fastest ball was 100.23 mph.

Sylvester Clarke bowled a spell at The Wanderers in which every ball registered 98, 99, 100 or 101 mph, and five separate deliveries were measured at 101 mph.

And Jeff Thomson was only ever measured once, at a time when he was unexpectedly called out of the bar while drunk and unfit in the middle of a six month ban. This is a man who once hit the sight screen on the full with a bouncer!

Shoaib was possibly the third quickest bowler of all time though.

If we're talking unofficial speeds, then Shoaib has clocked 168kph and Zahid 102 mph(164kph).

 

[Junaids]

If we're talking unofficial speeds, then Shoaib has clocked 168kph and Zahid 102 mph(164kph).

There has never been any such thing as an "official" speed.

We can only go by speeds measured by reputable technology in a match.

Sylvester Clarke was measured using the same speed radar technology which even today keeps the world 200 metre world record at 21.34 seconds for the late Florence Griffith Joyner.

Flojo almost certainly doped - that's why she was dead and buried by the age of just 38. By her time is not disputed, only the legitimacy of it.
[MENTION=134300]Tusker[/MENTION] adopts the position that if it doesn't use "today's technology" it did not happen. But if you do that, in just a few years people will also discount Shoaib Akhtar's speeds for using "old technology".

In reality, there is no reason to doubt speeds of the 1980's. The technology was accurate. There is no chemical or biological reason why a bowler in 2003 would be faster than one in 1988, and both were full-time professionals.

 

[Rayyman]

Maybe they genuinely want to help the less fortunate people out.

It's wrong to assume that they are just a couple of money-hungry ex-cricketers.

 

[shaz619]

There has never been any such thing as an "official" speed.

We can only go by speeds measured by reputable technology in a match.

Sylvester Clarke was measured using the same speed radar technology which even today keeps the world 200 metre world record at 21.34 seconds for the late Florence Griffith Joyner.

Flojo almost certainly doped - that's why she was dead and buried by the age of just 38. By her time is not disputed, only the legitimacy of it.
[MENTION=134300]Tusker[/MENTION] adopts the position that if it doesn't use "today's technology" it did not happen. But if you do that, in just a few years people will also discount Shoaib Akhtar's speeds for using "old technology".

In reality, there is no reason to doubt speeds of the 1980's. The technology was accurate. There is no chemical or biological reason why a bowler in 2003 would be faster than one in 1988, and both were full-time professionals.

But the reality is that Shoaib clocked speeds in excess of 170 and Zahid in excess of 164, these were also unofficial and used by the same speed radar technology which even today keeps the world 200 m world encore as you say. Both officially and unofficially Akhtar's records stand and were supported by the most advanced technologies so you are incorrect

 

[Arham_PakFan]

There has never been any such thing as an "official" speed.

We can only go by speeds measured by reputable technology in a match.

Sylvester Clarke was measured using the same speed radar technology which even today keeps the world 200 metre world record at 21.34 seconds for the late Florence Griffith Joyner.

Flojo almost certainly doped - that's why she was dead and buried by the age of just 38. By her time is not disputed, only the legitimacy of it.
[MENTION=134300]Tusker[/MENTION] adopts the position that if it doesn't use "today's technology" it did not happen. But if you do that, in just a few years people will also discount Shoaib Akhtar's speeds for using "old technology".

In reality, there is no reason to doubt speeds of the 1980's. The technology was accurate. There is no chemical or biological reason why a bowler in 2003 would be faster than one in 1988, and both were full-time professionals.

So Shoaib was faster than Clarke then?

 

[Junaids]

So Shoaib was faster than Clarke then?

To be honest, I don't know.

I think Thomson, Shoaib, Tait and Clarke all reached the mid-160's.

I think Zahid and Roberts and Holding and Waqar all reached around 155.

But I'd take a 150K Marshall over a 165K Clarke every time, or a 145K Lillee ahead of a 165K Thomson.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

To be honest, I don't know.

I think Thomson, Shoaib, Tait and Clarke all reached the mid-160's.

I think Zahid and Roberts and Holding and Waqar all reached around 155.

But I'd take a 150K Marshall over a 165K Clarke every time, or a 145K Lillee ahead of a 165K Thomson.

Yes,speed isn't always everything.

 

[shaz619]

To be honest, I don't know.

I think Thomson, Shoaib, Tait and Clarke all reached the mid-160's.

I think Zahid and Roberts and Holding and Waqar all reached around 155.

But I'd take a 150K Marshall over a 165K Clarke every time, or a 145K Lillee ahead of a 165K Thomson.

Shoaib Akhtar is the fastest of all time and the names you mention are not in the record books so only old yellers who are out of touch will sing their praises.

Shoaib Akhtar officially and unofficialy has broken every speed record in cricket, and his speeds were measured by the most advanced machines; this can never be refuted

 

[Junaids]

Shoaib Akhtar is the fastest of all time and the names you mention are not in the record books so only old yellers who are out of touch will sing their praises.

Shoaib Akhtar officially and unofficialy has broken every speed record in cricket, and his speeds were measured by the most advanced machines; this can never be refuted

Ha, maybe!

But you should have seen Waqar in 1990 and 1991!

He was outrageously quick - I reckon a typical over went

152
151
157
153
148
153

But Waqar also had amazing late swing too, more so than Shoaib ever did.

It was just thrilling to watch him at The Oval those two summers.

 

[Junaids]

They even invented a new verb: Waqared.

Which meant this:

 

[shaz619]

Ha, maybe!

But you should have seen Waqar in 1990 and 1991!

He was outrageously quick - I reckon a typical over went

152
151
157
153
148
153

But Waqar also had amazing late swing too, more so than Shoaib ever did.

It was just thrilling to watch him at The Oval those two summers.

Waqar was quick prior to his back injury but unfortunately Akhtar remains the quickest and most complete bowler of all time, were he not naughty he'd have ended his career as the undisputed goat. Pace, swing, bounce etc he had it all really and he was a big crowd puller; all the women wanted to be with him and all the lads wanted to drink with him. There will never be another bowler more thrilling to watch. Every Englishman I've ever met have him in their top 3.

 

[Junaids]

Waqar was quick prior to his back injury but unfortunately Akhtar remains the quickest and most complete bowler of all time, were he not naughty he'd have ended his career as the undisputed goat. Pace, swing, bounce etc he had it all really and he was a big crowd puller; all the women wanted to be with him and all the lads wanted to drink with him. There will never be another bowler more thrilling to watch. Every Englishman I've ever met have him in their top 3.

Look at what Waqar does to Brian Lara here. The key is that he has three slips, because he was moving it away like Hasan Ali to a left-hander.

I'm still angry with Shoaib for not reaching 400 Test wickets. He didn't even reach 200.

He had the nerve to refuse to take the advice of Imran and Hadlee and Woolmer to shorten his run up and extend his career. And then he blamed bad knees!

But he was the one who chose to carry twenty excess kilos of muscle on his upper body, and that combined with an excessive run up is what wore out his knees.

 

[shaz619]

Look at what Waqar does to Brian Lara here. The key is that he has three slips, because he was moving it away like Hasan Ali to a left-hander.

I'm still angry with Shoaib for not reaching 400 Test wickets. He didn't even reach 200.

He had the nerve to refuse to take the advice of Imran and Hadlee and Woolmer to shorten his run up and extend his career. And then he blamed bad knees!

But he was the one who chose to carry twenty excess kilos of muscle on his upper body, and that combined with an excessive run up is what wore out his knees.

Am not sure if you've read Akhtar's life but if you have Junaids then you'd know that he was a living miracle! he was not meant to play international cricket in fact he was not meant to be alive at all ! so it would be premature to rule out the extent of his physical limits and what he achieved despite them is quiet remarkable! I've read up on Bob's view of Akhtar's talent whom he deems as the most unique amongst all fast bowlers and Bob knows a thing or two! you should read his lifes work! I recommend it to even those who do not want to pursue cricket.

But no doubt his attitude was also his downfall, had he been under Bob a little earlier or if Imran was his captain then Akhtar would have ended his career with 550 Test Wickets. Bob managed to get more out of Akhtar then anyone before him and I enjoyed that little spell between the two

 

[Junaids]

Am not sure if you've read Akhtar's life but if you have Junaids then you'd know that he was a living miracle! he was not meant to play international cricket in fact he was not meant to be alive at all ! so it would be premature to rule out the extent of his physical limits and what he achieved despite them is quiet remarkable! I've read up on Bob's view of Akhtar's talent whom he deems as the most unique amongst all fast bowlers and Bob knows a thing or two! you should read his lifes work! I recommend it to even those who do not want to pursue cricket.

But no doubt his attitude was also his downfall, had he been under Bob a little earlier or if Imran was his captain then Akhtar would have ended his career with 550 Test Wickets. Bob managed to get more out of Akhtar then anyone before him and I enjoyed that little spell between the two

Good points!

If I ever see you outside of this forum, I'll tell you some background on the Woolmer-Shoaib story. I can't really put it in a public forum.

 

[waleed88]

Its better than cricketers trying to be politicians and making a mockery of their legacy, by turning into a household joke of U-turns 35 punctures and raylukatta's...

a world cup victory that has been tried to cash in so much that you get nauseuous even at the mention of it... atleast what these guys are doing is harmless to what is being achieved by certain ex-cricketers..

 

[waleed88]

Am not sure if you've read Akhtar's life but if you have Junaids then you'd know that he was a living miracle! he was not meant to play international cricket in fact he was not meant to be alive at all ! so it would be premature to rule out the extent of his physical limits and what he achieved despite them is quiet remarkable! I've read up on Bob's view of Akhtar's talent whom he deems as the most unique amongst all fast bowlers and Bob knows a thing or two! you should read his lifes work! I recommend it to even those who do not want to pursue cricket.

But no doubt his attitude was also his downfall, had he been under Bob a little earlier or if Imran was his captain then Akhtar would have ended his career with 550 Test Wickets. Bob managed to get more out of Akhtar then anyone before him and I enjoyed that little spell between the two

550 wickets for a guy who hardly bowled a 10 over spell without breaking down even in his prime... nice

 

[waleed88]

Am not sure if you've read Akhtar's life but if you have Junaids then you'd know that he was a living miracle! he was not meant to play international cricket in fact he was not meant to be alive at all ! so it would be premature to rule out the extent of his physical limits and what he achieved despite them is quiet remarkable! I've read up on Bob's view of Akhtar's talent whom he deems as the most unique amongst all fast bowlers and Bob knows a thing or two! you should read his lifes work! I recommend it to even those who do not want to pursue cricket.

But no doubt his attitude was also his downfall, had he been under Bob a little earlier or if Imran was his captain then Akhtar would have ended his career with 550 Test Wickets. Bob managed to get more out of Akhtar then anyone before him and I enjoyed that little spell between the two

Apparently Shoaib Akhtar had Ehlers Danlos Syndrome type 3, but the extent of his condition cannot be verified from any other place besides PP, and I will take everything thats written here with a pinch of salt, have not seen any other evidence to support his medical condition

 

[shaz619]

550 wickets for a guy who hardly bowled a 10 over spell without breaking down even in his prime... nice

If he shortened his run and focused more on movement/accuracy with a sophisticated support team in terms of his fitness and health it's not impossible

 

[shaz619]

Apparently Shoaib Akhtar had Ehlers Danlos Syndrome type 3, but the extent of his condition cannot be verified from any other place besides PP, and I will take everything thats written here with a pinch of salt, have not seen any other evidence to support his medical condition

You'd have to contact the doctor who diagnosed him for concrete proof, posters don't have access to that

 

[Pete Rose]

It's not like they are doing porn or something. They are on prime tv. Driving ratings and making good money while they are it.
It's a sickness that parts of our society suffer from: that the pursuit of financial opportunity is somehow undignified.

 

[MightyObnoxious]

There are lots of other ways to make money than to be part of these sense less circus shows which they always throw at our faces in every ramazan.
I think these two people are really good at speaking skill, they may pursue their careers in commentary. Wasim akram did it few times in past.

Like?

 

[Macho Mann]

Akhtar comes across as a total illiterate and a clown in that show

The other day he went to a random girl and gave her a prize and told her it was his 'Sadaqa'
Does this guy even understand what he's doing?! Some of the stuff he says is absurd

Compare Shoaib to someone like Afridi who comes across much better now that he's running his foundation full time

And to answer your question, PCB doesn't want Shoaib or Wasim's services. These guys can't force their way to the academies. But there's gotta be better stuff that can be doing with their time

reminds me of a very popular proverb

 

[Monsee]

ANYONE on this forum would do anything (less illegal or immoral) for a quick dollar. What sane person wouldn't?

These guys have families like the rest of us who they want to provide for

BS, speak for yourself, don't generalise everyone else!

 

[Monsee]

Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
Akhtar comes across as a total illiterate and a clown in that show

The other day he went to a random girl and gave her a prize and told her it was his 'Sadaqa'
Does this guy even understand what he's doing?! Some of the stuff he says is absurd

Compare Shoaib to someone like Afridi who comes across much better now that he's running his foundation full time

And to answer your question, PCB doesn't want Shoaib or Wasim's services. These guys can't force their way to the academies. But there's gotta be better stuff that can be doing with their time

reminds me of a very popular proverb

Actually reminds me of the name given to Akhtar by his early team mates. starts with an 'S' and is perfect for how he lives his life and behaves in public!

 

[omcswe]

people are forgetting that wasim akram is now a media personality more than a cricketer.

come on, the guy read news on 'sports center' for espn for some time in his past and has ever since taken great interest in being a media person.

and he has done well for himself doing that.

shoaib too as a person has matured and mellowed down and now has better career prospects in showbiz. that said, even in his playing days rumors of offers from film industry and high profile flings with actresses were never really that far.

as long as a method is legal, there shouldn't be any dignity attached to it. they are allowed to earn money and they are putting a great deal of effort in reinventing their personalities to do that.

good on them for not becoming bitter test cricketers and moaning on television glorifying their past and throwing weird accusations left, right, and center.

 

[MightyObnoxious]

What's wrong with Wasim Akram hosting a popular show on a top television network? Just because it doesn't meet your standards of sophistication, it doesn't become vulgar. People enjoy it, Wasim and Shoaib get paid. What else do you need? Or do you want them to continue with drunken rants on sports shows like the rest of cricketers?

 

[Salman]

I always got the impression that Wasim, wisely never wants anything to do with the cricketing structure in Pakistan after retirement due to the bureaucracy attached to it, Waqar and Ijaz Ahmed did and see how that turned out for them.

Shoaib was never good enough all round cricketer to be involved in coaching etc, it does not take a lot of IQ to run in fast and bowl but for coaching any team he will need to have a good understanding of all the aspects of the game, does not help if you batted at 8 and sent out to 3rd man boundary when fielding for most of your career.

 

[Savak]

I always got the impression that Wasim, wisely never wants anything to do with the cricketing structure in Pakistan after retirement due to the bureaucracy attached to it, Waqar and Ijaz Ahmed did and see how that turned out for them.

Shoaib was never good enough all round cricketer to be involved in coaching etc, it does not take a lot of IQ to run in fast and bowl but for coaching any team he will need to have a good understanding of all the aspects of the game, does not help if you batted at 8 and sent out to 3rd man boundary when fielding for most of your career.

Nah, Wasim will jump in if the money is right. He is with Islamabad United and KKR because of the big $$$. Doubt the PCB can meet that demand. Inzi had to take a paycut from quitting Afghanistan and joining the PCB.

 

[waleed88]

You'd have to contact the doctor who diagnosed him for concrete proof, posters don't have access to that

I have tried to look up to what I can find about him being a doctor myself, fact is there is no proof he has ED type 3, and I don't feel that anyone in this disease can go on to become an athlete especially considering the heart and vascular problems the people having this disease can face

 

[GoUgandaCranes]

Nah, Wasim will jump in if the money is right. He is with Islamabad United and KKR because of the big $$$. Doubt the PCB can meet that demand. Inzi had to take a paycut from quitting Afghanistan and joining the PCB.

why is it a man putting his family and interest first considered a bad thing?

 

[MightyObnoxious]

I always got the impression that Wasim, wisely never wants anything to do with the cricketing structure in Pakistan after retirement due to the bureaucracy attached to it, Waqar and Ijaz Ahmed did and see how that turned out for them.

Shoaib was never good enough all round cricketer to be involved in coaching etc, it does not take a lot of IQ to run in fast and bowl but for coaching any team he will need to have a good understanding of all the aspects of the game, does not help if you batted at 8 and sent out to 3rd man boundary when fielding for most of your career.

Also, I am not sure but Qayum Comission did bar him from taking a position of authority and responsiblity in Pakistan Cricket. One of the reasons why despite his utmost wish, Tauqir Zia didn't make him captain for 2003 WC.

 

[shaz619]

I have tried to look up to what I can find about him being a doctor myself, fact is there is no proof he has ED type 3, and I don't feel that anyone in this disease can go on to become an athlete especially considering the heart and vascular problems the people having this disease can face

You should contact his doctor to see if he has the proof and speak to his his mother and seek evidence for trips to hospitals and various operations etc after you have conducted this investigation then let me know what you have found out

 

[waleed88]

You should contact his doctor to see if he has the proof and speak to his his mother and seek evidence for trips to hospitals and various operations etc after you have conducted this investigation then let me know what you have found out

Or maybe its just that he doesn't have what he is alleged to have, and he was just a poor athlete who won't make any other International side on the basis of his fitness

 

[shaz619]

Or maybe its just that he doesn't have what he is alleged to have, and he was just a poor athlete who won't make any other International side on the basis of his fitness

So Akhtar is right then basically because as I had said earlier:

You should contact his doctor to see if he has the proof and speak to his his mother and seek evidence for trips to hospitals and various operations etc after you have conducted this investigation then let me know what you have found out

Unless you have proofs which indicate otherwise.

 

[waleed88]

So Akhtar is right then basically because as I had said earlier:



Unless you have proofs which indicate otherwise.

Akhtar's stories have all a bit of exaggeration in them, judging by the evidence that's present, Akhtar's injury issues might directly be related to his carelessness as an athlete or his dressing room antics, not being disciplined when asked to be, having rifts with different coaches specially Woolmer and Miandad in their tenure..

Still think Akhtar would never get 550 wickets even if he was given the elixir of life as a fast bowler..

His rebellious attitude would only allow him to always underachieve, which he did despite a career prolonging 13 years... a career that has too few a moments to talk about for anyone who has time on their hands

 

[shaz619]

Akhtar's stories have all a bit of exaggeration in them, judging by the evidence that's present, Akhtar's injury issues might directly be related to his carelessness as an athlete or his dressing room antics, not being disciplined when asked to be, having rifts with different coaches specially Woolmer and Miandad in their tenure..

Still think Akhtar would never get 550 wickets even if he was given the elixir of life as a fast bowler..

His rebellious attitude would only allow him to always underachieve, which he did despite a career prolonging 13 years... a career that has too few a moments to talk about for anyone who has time on their hands

Why would Akhtar's mom lie about hiim ?

And yes he would get 550 under Imran Khan and world class set up who manage his work load and have a proper regiment in place with regards to health and fitness. His work ethic could certainly be better but the best leaders are able to utilise the most difficult of personalities.

 

[Savak]

We have had Dr Tauseef Razzaq verifying Akhtar's physical problems which resulted in numerous injuries.

We have had the likes of Saqlain Mushtaq verifying and confirming that Akhtar used to drain fluids from his knees everytime by going to clinics during the middle of test matches on tour

We have had captains verifying on tv he was taking pain killing injections to play

We have evidence on twitter where there are x ray images of his knees before operation showing the damage he had done to his knees during his playing days and an x ray of a knee replacement surgery he had done in Australia in 2015

And yes we should believe Waleed88 who has no contact with Akhtar or evidence to back up his claims that he lied and overexaggerated his injuries, absolutely.

 

[MoAamer]

Through many years, these two players had carried the legacy of Pakistani cricket through their caps. And now they are carrying it, not, but rather, the comics of it.

 

[Savak]

They are earning upwards of PKR 20crore from this stint

Anyone would take this gig. Get off your high horse

Each or combined? Surely this cannot be right? If this is true, they are more than they earned during their playing careers

 

[Slog]

Each or combined? Surely this cannot be right? If this is true, they are more than they earned during their playing careers

sorry PKR 2 crore

Amir Liauqat got PKR 1.5cr just from the show in 2014 I think (the aam khayega year) so Im sure they are earning close to that as well (if not much more)

 

[saadibaba]

I made the mistake to watch a few clips from the show on youtube yesterday. Cringe worthy stuff. Cheap tactics, fake gestures, over the top enthusiasm and to top it all out, total sell out to sponsors. Not an ounce of dignity left in these two individuals. Expected Shoaib to be like that but Wasim, he was supposed to be the dignified, sober and respectful one. How these two have made a total disgrace of themselves is beyond my comprehension. I guess ultimately its all about money. Money talks, "you know what" walks or in this case, money talks, decency walks out, rather runs out.

 

[AnOrdinaryPakistani]

Like?

There are many other things to do. These shows are not the end of the world for them.
They are legends, they can open their academies and pass on what their experience to upcoming youngsters. If not that then they can pursue commentary. If a person like bazid khan can become commentator then they can also be. Infact wasim was commentator in past too.

The point is that these types of shows brings nothing to table for us. They are low quality shows, hosts utters totally nonsense in these shows and to top it off these types of shows dont have any general purpose. The thing which they call as humor is not funny to be honest and is really horrible. And i really wonder what exactly was our nations fault to have deserved this.

 

[AnOrdinaryPakistani]

OK but who are we to judge. There are thousands of Pakistani's who like the fact that Shoaib and Wasim are hosting this show. Some might think they are making a fool of themselves but to each his own. It's a personal decision. Maybe they saw an opportunity to do something different and took it up. You see some great actors acting in bad movies, does that mean they are harming their image? No, they just tried something different and it wasn't great and you move on.

Yes it is their own personal choices. But it took decades for these two to become legends. I dont think that these legends of ours deserve such shows. Remember how shoaib went to india to earn money? And how he was disgraced by indian people especially sehwag? Well they are indians but we dont want Pakistani people to think that these two can do anything to earn money. And we also dont want people to associate them with the likes of aamir liaqat and others.

 

[Adil_94]

let them enjoy it . yes the show is not high class but u can tell they are having fun. akhtar especially seems made for showbiz.

 

[TQ89]

What is self respect got to do with this? Are they doing anything illegal and if it is cringe-worthy, you guys can change the channel. There are lot of other venues today to pass the time rather than these brainless game shows

Some people just need an excuse to open pointless threads

 

[shaz619]

let them enjoy it . yes the show is not high class but u can tell they are having fun. akhtar especially seems made for showbiz.

Totally agree

 

[TQ89]

There are many other things to do. These shows are not the end of the world for them.
They are legends, they can open their academies and pass on what their experience to upcoming youngsters. If not that then they can pursue commentary. If a person like bazid khan can become commentator then they can also be. Infact wasim was commentator in past too.

The point is that these types of shows brings nothing to table for us. They are low quality shows, hosts utters totally nonsense in these shows and to top it off these types of shows dont have any general purpose. The thing which they call as humor is not funny to be honest and is really horrible. And i really wonder what exactly was our nations fault to have deserved this.

The nation can stop watching these brainless game shows on every channel and eventually force broadcasters to come up with some other ideas.

Everywhere I went during Ramadan, people and especially women in families were crazy after jeeto pakistan and what not. The broadcasters give the people what they want. If people change, broadcasting will change too.

Same situation in india. I got some indian friends whose families will always watch saas bahu crap & then complain that tv doesn't show anything new like it did on doordarshan in the 80's. Stop buying it and they will stop selling it.

 

[superman]

Damn the self loathing of some pakistanis is despicable. What about the english players dying to go on strictly come dancing and doing kanjartaal on that

 

[MightyObnoxious]

There are many other things to do. These shows are not the end of the world for them.
They are legends, they can open their academies and pass on what their experience to upcoming youngsters. If not that then they can pursue commentary. If a person like bazid khan can become commentator then they can also be. Infact wasim was commentator in past too.

The point is that these types of shows brings nothing to table for us. They are low quality shows, hosts utters totally nonsense in these shows and to top it off these types of shows dont have any general purpose. The thing which they call as humor is not funny to be honest and is really horrible. And i really wonder what exactly was our nations fault to have deserved this.

That's all relative to you. You think it's horrible, doesn't have a purpose and it's unfunny. Don't generalize it for everyone. Majority clealry don't think that way. You are being Holier Than Thou in this matter.