Does winning the Asia Cup make up for India’s defeat to the PAF?

[Rajdeep]

@Mamoon is copying John Cena, he couldn't stand seeing some of my fellow Indians cry, so he turned face again for them.

Bro...when are you turning face? Even it is for one month, just give it a try. We all would love to see that.

Are you not bored playing the heel character since 2013? Who knows, maybe your face turn will bring good luck to PCT?

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

Abhinandan's jet crashed within Pakistani border.

The 6 Indian jets were shot down within Indian border. Pakistan can't retrieve those I guess. Anyway, there have been videos and images. Even USA confirmed that India lost jets.

You are more delusional. 6 jets can't b shot and all of them can't cross the border after being shot and collapse on Indian side. Either the count is incorrect or the whole narrative is false.

 

[shaz619]

This isnt a cricket match.

In a military operation, every detail is not to be shared to the public due to classified info and violations of law that takes place.

When US decided to kill Osama Bin Laden, they couldnt provide the actual evidence as during that night they violated many laws that would had made them liable.

Even when we shot down Abhinandan, we had to hide alot of info, as there were rumors that we might have used f16 which we were not allowed to use in this.

During the Operation Bunyan Marsoos, the issue is with the type of missiles that were used to take down 6 Indian jets that included 2-3 rafales. The problem in this case is, the jets we have and the missiles that are attached with them cannot really take down a Rafale due to the range, however to overcome this problem China helped us and India got out played.

China exported to Pakistan PL 15E missiles that could be attached with the JC-10. A PL 15E has only a range of 145km. China. Meanwhile, China also makes PL 15 missiles that are not export version as they have a range of up 300 km.

Now India went into a dog fight thinking Pakistan doesnt have the ranges, so they kept their Rafale apar. But than when their jets 200-300 km got hit, they were taken by surprise.

This is why Pakistan cant go around giving every detail info, or else this would strain our relations with China who also likes to act in secrecy.

Pakistan has left the everything on India, and India had two choices. If India had accepted the PL 15 version, that would had meant that their Rafales did go down, as Pakistan would not use a PL 15 on their other garbage crafts. But at the same time that would be an insult for India. So China and Pakistan discreetly won here, as India wanted to hide its own national embarrassment.

Same situation is that Shivangi Singh. She was marketed as the only Indian female Rafale pilot. Now no one knows where she is. Pakistan has again left this on India to decide. If she is in Pakistan captured, India would first have to accept this, and accepting this would again mean Pakistan did down a Rafale. If they dont accept she is in Pakistan, our country isnt even required to hand her back this time.

All India has to do is show us Shivangi Singh, thats it.

So, this is why India and Modi has been very edgy, where he was trying to mention operation tandoor in a cricket match and which is why he allowed his Indian team to play Pakistan in the Asia Cup

This is your best POST ever.

POTW @The Bald Eagle

Well researched, insightful & displaying a high level of knowledge which can’t be comprehended by those providing soft retorts.

 

[Mr.Q]

During the Operation Bunyan Marsoos, the issue is with the type of missiles that were used to take down 6 Indian jets that included 2-3 rafales. The problem in this case is, the jets we have and the missiles that are attached with them cannot really take down a Rafale due to the range, however to overcome this problem China helped us and India got out played.

China exported to Pakistan PL 15E missiles that could be attached with the JC-10. A PL 15E has only a range of 145km. China. Meanwhile, China also makes PL 15 missiles that are not export version as they have a range of up 300 km.

Now India went into a dog fight thinking Pakistan doesnt have the ranges, so they kept their Rafale apar. But than when their jets 200-300 km got hit, they were taken by surprise.

This is why Pakistan cant go around giving every detail info, or else this would strain our relations with China who also likes to act in secrecy.

Pakistan has left the everything on India, and India had two choices. If India had accepted the PL 15 version, that would had meant that their Rafales did go down, as Pakistan would not use a PL 15 on their other garbage crafts. But at the same time that would be an insult for India. So China and Pakistan discreetly won here, as India wanted to hide its own national embarrassment.

This is a very old propaganda trick. “We have evidence but can’t show it because of xyz.”

Like many posters here, this dude is in the dark about how China actually operates. Beijing won’t risk coming face to face with India by handing a proxy like Pakistan the domestic PL15s. That’s just not how they play their game. It’s highly unlikely Pakistan received the full variant in any meaningful numbers. And even if they had used the PL15, India could easily raise the issue without admitting its jets were shot down.

India and China have been papering over tensions and Beijing wouldn’t secretly arm a proxy in a way that forces it to come face to face with New Delhi. But sure, posts like this do serve as some much needed copium for those desperate for a victory after the recent hat trick loss. Inhale harder and give us a smile.

As for the actual number of jets downed, I’ll wait for solid evidence. So far none exists on either side.

 

[RexRex]

Half of the Pakistani posters here (eg: @Cpt. Rishwat ) believe Pahalgam was a false flag operation, wherein Modi killed 30 indian tourists to start a war with Pak, while the other half believes female pilot Shivangi is in a rawalpindi prison.

Mamoon was right about Pakistan and its near constant state of delusion that it lives in. There is no cure for this

 

[Rafale Nidhal Fan]

History disagrees though. AI experts can verify it on their own..lmao

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If you ask AI it says India is the most dirtiest country in the world

 

[Boyka]

Half of the Pakistani posters here (eg: @Cpt. Rishwat ) believe Pahalgam was a false flag operation, wherein Modi killed 30 indian tourists to start a war with Pak, while the other half believes female pilot Shivangi is in a rawalpindi prison.

Mamoon was right about Pakistan and its near constant state of delusion that it lives in. There is no cure for this

There’s no hiding for you that your operation was a failure diplomatically and didn’t really achieve anything militarily. First come to terms with this then we can speak of other things.

Every few months you guys like to repeat the same nonsense. This time the cricket has you beating your chests again when it’s usually your hysterical media outlets.

 

[RexRex]

There’s no hiding for you that your operation was a failure diplomatically and didn’t really achieve anything militarily. First come to terms with this then we can speak of other things.

Every few months you guys like to repeat the same nonsense. This time the cricket has you beating your chests again when it’s usually your hysterical media outlets.

I see that you haven't denied my first two assertions. Not surprised.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Half of the Pakistani posters here (eg: @Cpt. Rishwat ) believe Pahalgam was a false flag operation, wherein Modi killed 30 indian tourists to start a war with Pak, while the other half believes female pilot Shivangi is in a rawalpindi prison.

Mamoon was right about Pakistan and its near constant state of delusion that it lives in. There is no cure for this

Far more reasonable to believe the Indian government and their evidence that the attackers were Pakistani. Finding Pakistani chocolates in attackers pockets should settle all doubts.

 

[Rajdeep]

Half of the Pakistani posters here (eg: @Cpt. Rishwat ) believe Pahalgam was a false flag operation, wherein Modi killed 30 indian tourists to start a war with Pak, while the other half believes female pilot Shivangi is in a rawalpindi prison.

Mamoon was right about Pakistan and its near constant state of delusion that it lives in. There is no cure for this

Our English friend from Bradford,@Cpt. Rishwat, is the biggest defender of Pakistan here. He honestly believes Pakistan is the most innocent country to have ever graced planet earth...Mother Teresa would look like a thug compared to them in his eyes.

So naturally, the moment the Pahalgam news broke, his very first reaction on that thread was: “Why are people already blaming Pakistan?” to which I reminded him, culprits must be the Italians then. After all, they’ve been secretly craving Kashmir Valley from their Rome balconies for decades. Next time something happens in Kashmir, don’t blame the usual suspects… check the pizza shops in Naples first.

 

[saimayubera]

Not only did India not lose to PAF (whose Operation Baniyan Chaddi could not hit anything) we now know the reason for Trump's friendliness.

Pakistan got beaten so bad they ran to Trump and agreed to become a vassal state.

And now Trump is gonna make them recognize Israel and act as Israeli security guards in Gaza lolololol.

 

[Boyka]

I see that you haven't denied my first two assertions. Not surprised.

I’ll be honest nobody cares, after the train incident in Pakistan I think Field Marshal was angry and was making a point so not a false flag. Shivangi is probably dead.

Aside from that, you were not expecting such a response from Pakistan.

 

[Hikaru]

Not only did India not lose to PAF (whose Operation Baniyan Chaddi could not hit anything) we now know the reason for Trump's friendliness.

Pakistan got beaten so bad they ran to Trump and agreed to become a vassal state.

And now Trump is gonna make them recognize Israel and act as Israeli security guards in Gaza lolololol.

Weird how the victorious side of the war ran to Trump for a ceasefire and months later, still thanks him every few days for stalling the phainta they were dishing our to Bharat?

Makes little sense, but expect Pakistani awaam to buy it. Hopes/delusions are two things they cling to better than anyone I else.

 

[Rajdeep]

Not only did India not lose to PAF (whose Operation Baniyan Chaddi could not hit anything) we now know the reason for Trump's friendliness.

Pakistan got beaten so bad they ran to Trump and agreed to become a vassal state.

And now Trump is gonna make them recognize Israel and act as Israeli security guards in Gaza lolololol.

Real reason Trump called for ceasefire was because Nur Khan Airbase was hit. It is located few kilometers away from Pakistan's nucelar arsenals on which United States has lots of stakes. This is the truth.

However, Pakistanis like to make their own stories to keep themselves happy. No wonder they rank highly in happiness index.

 

[Hikaru]

Real reason Trump called for ceasefire was because Nur Khan Airbase was hit. It is located few kilometers away from Pakistan's nucelar arsenals on which United States has lots of stakes. This is the truth.

However, Pakistanis like to make their own stories to keep themselves happy. No wonder they rank highly in happiness index.

As per Pakistani account, Munir ran to Trump with "Huzoor, have mercy on Bharat, we are up 6-0, it's all over social media, please stop us before we capture Delhi and Assam.."

Such big hearts, what a kind man.

 

[saimayubera]

I’ll be honest nobody cares, after the train incident in Pakistan I think Field Marshal was angry and was making a point so not a false flag. Shivangi is probably dead.

Aside from that, you were not expecting such a response from Pakistan.

Hahaha Shivangi lol.

Only Pakistanis would be fool enough to believe this rumour.

As if a female air force pilot would be allowed to fly jets in war.

 

[saimayubera]

Real reason Trump called for ceasefire was because Nur Khan Airbase was hit. It is located few kilometers away from Pakistan's nucelar arsenals on which United States has lots of stakes. This is the truth.

However, Pakistanis like to make their own stories to keep themselves happy. No wonder they rank highly in happiness index.

And Trump is now taking his pound of flesh by making Pakistan recognize Israel and dragging them into Gaza (and the Saudis will drag them into Yemen).

Wonder how the Pak awaam will take this alliance with the yahoodis.

 

[Boyka]

Hahaha Shivangi lol.

Only Pakistanis would be fool enough to believe this rumour.

As if a female air force pilot would be allowed to fly jets in war.

Why was she paraded like some achievement then? As long as India gets slapped we are happy.

 

[HalBass9]

Why are Indians trying to convince Pakistanis? Pakistani did not matter to Indians?

 

[sweep_shot]

I’ll be honest nobody cares, after the train incident in Pakistan I think Field Marshal was angry and was making a point so not a false flag. Shivangi is probably dead.

Aside from that, you were not expecting such a response from Pakistan.

I think Shivangi is dead or badly injured.

Something happened to her.

India were marketing Shivangi heavily before Operation Tandoor. After the war, she disappeared from the spotlight and India no longer mention him. I wonder why.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Our English friend from Bradford,@Cpt. Rishwat, is the biggest defender of Pakistan here. He honestly believes Pakistan is the most innocent country to have ever graced planet earth...Mother Teresa would look like a thug compared to them in his eyes.

So naturally, the moment the Pahalgam news broke, his very first reaction on that thread was: “Why are people already blaming Pakistan?” to which I reminded him, culprits must be the Italians then. After all, they’ve been secretly craving Kashmir Valley from their Rome balconies for decades. Next time something happens in Kashmir, don’t blame the usual suspects… check the pizza shops in Naples first.

Just because I criticise India for being a third world dump doesn't automatically mean I am a defender of Pakistan. This is just the way your hindutva crazed mind works. Not sure why you keep talking about Bradford since it's you that lives there not me. This is just typical of your usual detachment from reality though. It's why no one can take anything you say seriously.

 

[Boyka]

Something happened to her.

India were marketing Shivangi heavily before Operation Tandoor. After the war, she disappeared from the spotlight and India no longer mention him. I wonder why.

She’s nowhere to be seen and it’s been so long.

 

[Major]

This is a very old propaganda trick. “We have evidence but can’t show it because of xyz.”

Like many posters here, this dude is in the dark about how China actually operates. Beijing won’t risk coming face to face with India by handing a proxy like Pakistan the domestic PL15s. That’s just not how they play their game. It’s highly unlikely Pakistan received the full variant in any meaningful numbers. And even if they had used the PL15, India could easily raise the issue without admitting its jets were shot down.

India and China have been papering over tensions and Beijing wouldn’t secretly arm a proxy in a way that forces it to come face to face with New Delhi. But sure, posts like this do serve as some much needed copium for those desperate for a victory after the recent hat trick loss. Inhale harder and give us a smile.

As for the actual number of jets downed, I’ll wait for solid evidence. So far none exists on either side.

If India admits PL15 was used, it becomes a major embarrassment for them that their intelligence failed and their whole planning failed.

I am the one whose coping? You are the one who cant give a logical reply here.

 

[GOSH11]

I went to one of the most competitive medical institutes in the country which is actually harder to get into than most UK med schools because the competition is crazy.

You are dealing with more applicants than the entire 18-22 years demographic of the UK, and most of the successful doctors in the UK are foreign qualified and have had superior training because UK educated and trained doctors have very little hands-on experience compared to doctors that come to the UK from Asian countries.

A doctor in the UK on average deals with the same number of patients in a week that an Asian doctor does in a day.

My dad is the only sibling who stayed back in Pakistan because he was a civil servant while his siblings, 2 of whom are doctors, all moved to the UK in the 80’s, so I know what I am talking about.

Maybe you should try to fool someone else and project your fragile superiority complex on those who don’t know the reality.

I am glad your parents moved to the UK and gave you a better life than what they were capable of in Pakistan because just like them, I don’t think you would have been to survive the cutthroat environment and competition in Pakistan.

Competitive in Pakistan- lol, excellent competition or exercise in mediocrity.

Cut throat environment?! Hahaha lol, you would not even gain an entry level position in our establishment in London and that is being polite.

Simply put, you would not even be considered for a post here...... there are levels to this.

Not nice to try and put others down, is it?

 

[guard]

I went to one of the most competitive medical institutes in the country which is actually harder to get into than most UK med schools because the competition is crazy.

You are dealing with more applicants than the entire 18-22 years demographic of the UK, and most of the successful doctors in the UK are foreign qualified and have had superior training because UK educated and trained doctors have very little hands-on experience compared to doctors that come to the UK from Asian countries.

A doctor in the UK on average deals with the same number of patients in a week that an Asian doctor does in a day.

My dad is the only sibling who stayed back in Pakistan because he was a civil servant while his siblings, 2 of whom are doctors, all moved to the UK in the 80’s, so I know what I am talking about.

Maybe you should try to fool someone else and project your fragile superiority complex on those who don’t know the reality.

I am glad your parents moved to the UK and gave you a better life than what they were capable of in Pakistan because just like them, I don’t think you would have been to survive the cutthroat environment and competition in Pakistan.

The only competition in Pakistan is nepo babies, bribes and voting for the ‘right’ people…i.e. chai pani roti…

Criminals flourish in such environments..

 

[saimayubera]

Why was she paraded like some achievement then? As long as India gets slapped we are happy.

When was she paraded?

Do you know of the concept of DEI?

Like some Chinese guys playing the PSL?

If you believe a woman would be allowed to fly jets in war lol.

 

[shaz619]

Our English friend from Bradford,@Cpt. Rishwat, is the biggest defender of Pakistan here. He honestly believes Pakistan is the most innocent country to have ever graced planet earth...Mother Teresa would look like a thug compared to them in his eyes.

So naturally, the moment the Pahalgam news broke, his very first reaction on that thread was: “Why are people already blaming Pakistan?” to which I reminded him, culprits must be the Italians then. After all, they’ve been secretly craving Kashmir Valley from their Rome balconies for decades. Next time something happens in Kashmir, don’t blame the usual suspects… check the pizza shops in Naples first.

What’s your problem with Bradford? Adil Rashid is from there and everybody knows he is Virat Kohli’s second father.

 

[RexRex]

She’s nowhere to be seen and it’s been so long.

The fact that India refuses to satisfy your curiosity about her is annoying to you and many on here. Tis funny.

 

[Rafale Nidhal Fan]

I never intend to embarrass anyone, but since you asked for it -

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/rank-the-least-hygeinic-countr-zGb8TevnSSKKM4Qm049MDA#0

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I said write the most dirtiest country in the world not manipulate your chatgpt search

Typical indian behavior

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

What’s your problem with Bradford? Adil Rashid is from there and everybody knows he is Virat Kohli’s second father.

His problem is he lives there and has to walk with his head down or he might get some tough looking Pakistani lads giving death stares.

 

[Mamoon]

Competitive in Pakistan- lol, excellent competition or exercise in mediocrity.

Cut throat environment?! Hahaha lol, you would not even gain an entry level position in our establishment in London and that is being polite.

Simply put, you would not even be considered for a post here...... there are levels to this.

Not nice to try and put others down, is it?

You have no idea what you are talking about, and it is understandable considering the fact that you are a coconut who hasn't stepped foot in Pakistan for ages, if ever.

Also, it is clear that you are not a doctor in the UK. If you were, you would have been aware of how valued Asian (inc. Pakistani) doctors are in the UK because of their hands-on experience. You have badly exposed yourself.

You have 0 clue about how difficult it is to get into a public medical college in Pakistan and I say this with undue respect.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Modi really should have stuck to making chai. This sort of statement is more becoming of a chaiwala than a statesman.

Embarrassing on so many levels.

Statesmanship is shown to thoywho deserve it

 

[cricketjoshila]

Competitive in Pakistan- lol, excellent competition or exercise in mediocrity.

Cut throat environment?! Hahaha lol, you would not even gain an entry level position in our establishment in London and that is being polite.

Simply put, you would not even be considered for a post here...... there are levels to this.

Not nice to try and put others down, is it?

I have interacted with pakistan trained doctors and they are very good apatient handling may be lessbokish than European and Americans but better sy actual dealing with patients

The ate also ghod st handling patient load

And can work long hours if needed.

 

[hks222]

I think we should stop this BS.

India & Pakistan both need to normalize relations and have peace.

War mongering / hysteria does no side any good.

 

[GOSH11]

You have no idea what you are talking about, and it is understandable considering the fact that you are a coconut who hasn't stepped foot in Pakistan for ages, if ever.

Also, it is clear that you are not a doctor in the UK. If you were, you would have been aware of how valued Asian (inc. Pakistani) doctors are in the UK because of their hands-on experience. You have badly exposed yourself.

You have 0 clue about how difficult it is to get into a public medical college in Pakistan and I say this with undue respect.

0 clue? Lol.

I repeat- your competitive and prestigious med school in Pakistan would in no way shape or form be equivalent to cut it out here.... you would struggle to get an entry level position.

I work at one of the leading quaternary sites in the UK (+London) so mirroring your snobby attitude to others- I would not usually behave in such a manner but with you doing that to others- I shall do the same as the certificate or napkin that you have to say what you have is mediocre

 

[Mr.Q]

If India admits PL15 was used, it becomes a major embarrassment for them that their intelligence failed and their whole planning failed.

I am the one whose coping? You are the one who cant give a logical reply here.

All the answers are already in my post. India could call out PL15 use without losing face. That would expose China for undercutting its own stated MTCR style pledges and export control rules, which is exactly why the PL 15E exists (export compliance + tech protection). Slipping a proxy the full domestic round would hand New Delhi diplomatic ammo, not embarrass India. The only reason you fall back on “India can’t admit it” is because you have no evidence.

 

[IronShield]

I have interacted with pakistan trained doctors and they are very good apatient handling may be lessbokish than European and Americans but better sy actual dealing with patients

The ate also ghod st handling patient load

And can work long hours if needed.

I don't know what's happened to you, maybe you got married and or have children now, you have mellowed out too much!!

It's really disconcerting!!

 

[Mamoon]

I have interacted with pakistan trained doctors and they are very good apatient handling may be lessbokish than European and Americans but better sy actual dealing with patients

The ate also ghod st handling patient load

And can work long hours if needed.

You are talking to someone who has no idea what he is talking about.

Asian trained doctors including Pakistani, Indians, Bangladesh as well as South East Asians have an advantage over western trained doctors — they have a lot of hands-on experience because of the amount of patients that they handle.

They get more experience in 1 year than western trained doctors get in years.

@GOSH11 - after getting schooled in multiple threads, maybe it is time for you to pipe down.

 

[GOSH11]

You are talking to someone who has no idea what he is talking about.

Asian trained doctors including Pakistani, Indians, Bangladesh as well as South East Asians have an advantage over western trained doctors — they have a lot of hands-on experience because of the amount of patients that they handle.

They get more experience in 1 year than western trained doctors get in years.

@GOSH11 - after getting schooled in multiple threads, maybe it is time for you to pipe down.

Schooled? Haha.

I have some top notch colleagues that work within mental health, you would make for a great case study on many fronts.

 

[Mamoon]

Schooled? Haha.

I have some top notch colleagues that work within mental health, you would make for a great case study on many fronts.

I don’t doubt that. Are you a janitor in their clinics?

 

[GOSH11]

I don’t doubt that. Are you a janitor in their clinics?

Haha.... Consultant level...although my specialty is not mental health.

If they allowed AI for the PLAB- you would be a shoe in!

 

[cricketfan24]

Let’s be honest: 7th May, 14th Sept, 21st Sept, and 28th Sept will go down in Pakistan’s history as its most humiliating days.

Honestly, no Pakistani is keeping track of those dates, nobody even expected us to beat India, so for us it was just another match. We were only surprised that we’d be playing again on the 28th!

And about the rest of what you said: when two people fight, the winner usually moves on, but the loser stays stuck, holding grudges and plotting “revenge.” Looking at India, they still can’t get over 10th May. For a country that claims it’s beaten Pakistan on 10th may, wiped out terrorists, and won 3 cricket matches as a revenge, you’d think they’d have moved on by now. But the fact they’re still hung up on it just shows how badly india got thrashed on 10th may it clearly still stings! And still want to seek revenge for 10th may

 

[cricketjoshila]

I don't know what's happened to you, maybe you got married and or have children now, you have mellowed out too much!!

It's really disconcerting!!

Truth is truth pakistani doctors aregod at handling patients and don't cry about work load.

 

[Mas-LFC]

Modi really should have stuck to making chai. This sort of statement is more becoming of a chaiwala than a statesman.

Embarrassing on so many levels.

Modi is unqualified to lead the so called world’s biggest democracy. Its a total intolerant nation where minorities especially muslims get attacked, suppressed, harassed and downgraded at all levels. He only got into power because of his Hindutva extreme rhetorics. And it’s grown so much now the chaiwala has complete dictatorship.