Donald Trump says India, Pakistan can handle Kashmir dispute on their own

[MenInG]

United States President Donald Trump on Monday said that the conflict between India and Pakistan over Kashmir was "a little less heated" now in comparison to two weeks ago, as he once again offered to help the neighbouring countries.

While speaking to media before departing from The White House in Washington DC, in response to a question, President Trump said: "India and Pakistan are having a conflict over Kashmir as you know. I think it's a little bit less heated right now than it was two weeks ago and I'm willing to help them."

"I get along with both countries very well. I'm willing to help them if they want, they know that is out there," he added.

Following India's decision to strip Kashmiris of their seven-decade-long special autonomy through a rushed presidential order, tensions between Pakistan and India have been high. A communications blackout and heavy restrictions on movement imposed by the Indian authorities from the eve of this development have been in place for over a month now.

Pakistan downgraded diplomatic relations with New Delhi and suspended all bilateral trade. The Indian ambassador was asked to leave and train and bus services with India were also suspended. Furthermore, Pakistan decided to refuse a request by India to allow its president to use Pakistani airspace for a flight to Iceland.

After Article 370 was revoked, Trump spoke with both Prime Minister Imran Khan and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, urging a reduction of tension between the two countries over the Kashmir issue.

On August 26, discussing the issue on the sidelines of the G7 summit in France with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Trump had said that India and Pakistan could handle their dispute over occupied Kashmir on their own, but he was there should they need him.

The US leader first offered to mediate between India and Pakistan over Kashmir at a White House news conference with Prime Minister Imran on July 22. The prime minister had immediately accepted the offer, saying that over a billion people would pray for the US leader if he helped resolve the issue.

India, however, had declined the offer, saying that it wanted no external assistance for talks with Pakistan on Kashmir or any other issue.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1504556/p...ow-says-trump-while-reiterating-offer-to-help

 

[msaaim89]

The main reason India has nothing to gain by occupying Pakistani territory is because they would be soundly thrashed by Pakistan's very capable army. Don't think you can sneak into a war on your own terms as happened in Bangladesh where Pakistan's military was stranded thousands of miles from home.

Brutalising your own citizens under a mask of media blackout is very different from encroaching Pakistan's borders.

No point explaining it to him.

Indian army is at least aware even with vast numerical superiority.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The main reason India has nothing to gain by occupying Pakistani territory is because they would be soundly thrashed by Pakistan's very capable army. Don't think you can sneak into a war on your own terms as happened in Bangladesh where Pakistan's military was stranded thousands of miles from home.

Brutalising your own citizens under a mask of media blackout is very different from encroaching Pakistan's borders.

India also took Siachen. What could Pakistan Army do? Nothing.

Stranded thousands of miles away from home? Wasnt east pakistan part of Pakistan?

There is nothing to gain by going to war to get territory and set our development back by few years.

 

[PakLFC]

Watch YouTube interviews of Ex ISI heads.

You can also do the same. Check out some video's of General Bakshi and others as well exposing RAW and other Indian agencies. Opinions of generals can be challenged as well.

 

[PakLFC]

A few weapons will be allowed into Kashmir. Otherwise nobody will believe a false flag operation or India can't justify curfews. As I said the process will be systematic and will be aimed to quash the resistance slowly. Hatred is fine, they already hate India but as I said the numbers are low. Afghan Taliban and Afghan ISIS are awaited in India and Russia respectively. They will be welcomed and then burned.

What do you mean a few weapons will be allowed in Ksahmir when the place is already crawling with them? I am saying that a false flag will take place to deflect the attention from a possible confrontation with Pak to what is currently happening, this will now be so obvious that no one will accept it. Look you have been unable to end the resistance in 70 long years so forget about it now. The numbers of Kashmiris hating India is massive not "low". Even the once pro Indian mouthpieces like Omar Abdullah regret the side they chose. Now the freedom movement will reach it's natural end, it will take a few years for the Kashmiris to get there. The Afghan Taliban will happily crush the ISIS before marching to IoK where they will bury your soldiers alive. They won't need caves to hide in India when the locals will grant them all they want.

 

[anand99]

Trump to joins Modi in Indian American event. Is this what he meant by playing a role in talk

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/how...-house-confirms-2101446?pfrom=home-topstories

 

[rhony]

What do you mean a few weapons will be allowed in Ksahmir when the place is already crawling with them? I am saying that a false flag will take place to deflect the attention from a possible confrontation with Pak to what is currently happening, this will now be so obvious that no one will accept it. Look you have been unable to end the resistance in 70 long years so forget about it now. The numbers of Kashmiris hating India is massive not "low". Even the once pro Indian mouthpieces like Omar Abdullah regret the side they chose. Now the freedom movement will reach it's natural end, it will take a few years for the Kashmiris to get there. The Afghan Taliban will happily crush the ISIS before marching to IoK where they will bury your soldiers alive. They won't need caves to hide in India when the locals will grant them all they want.

The 30 day curfew is to weed out the weapons and anti social elements. Let's see, based on reports we are close to lifting the curfew anyway

 

[MenInG]

WASHINGTON: US President Donald Trump has said that he will meet both Indian and Pakistani leaders in the next few days while claiming that “a lot of progress is being made” in defusing tensions between South Asia’s two nuclear-armed neighbours.

“I’ll see Prime Minister Modi and I will — we’ll — be meeting with (prime ministers of) India and Pakistan,” said Mr Trump, adding: “And I think a lot of progress is being made there, a lot of progress.”

Mr Trump made these remarks on Monday afternoon while responding to a question about a joint rally Mr Modi and he are scheduled to address in Houston, Texas, on Sept 22.

Although the Indian community in the US is describing this rally as a “major diplomatic win” for India, Pre*sident Trump’s remarks show that the US leader is still interested in playing a mediatory role between South Asia’s two traditional rivals.

Mr Trump’s announcement that he will be meeting both Indian and Pakistani leaders in the next few days confirms media speculation about an Imran-Trump meeting during the UN General Assembly (UNGA) in New York next week.

Both Pakistani and Indian prime ministers are scheduled to address the UN general Assembly on Sept 27 and will be in New York next week.

President Trump’s UNGA schedule indicates that he could meet Prime Minister Khan on the sidelines of the general assembly while he is already scheduled to meet Mr Modi in Houston.

Reports in the Indian media, however, suggest that Mr Modi would prefer a proper meeting in New York or Washington, to an informal discussion during the Houston rally. This means that Mr Trump will have two meetings with Mr Modi within a week for talks on an issue – Kashmir – that Washington fears could lead to yet another war between India and Pakistan.

The other part of Mr Trump’s statement – “lot of progress is being made” – indicates that the United States has stayed engaged with the two neighbours despite New Delhi’s often-stated position that it does not welcome international mediation in its disputes with Pakistan.

This follows another Trump statement last week that he’s willing to ‘help’ India and Pakistan resolve the Kashmir dispute.

The US president first offered to mediate between India and Pakistan over the Kashmir dispute on July 22 at a joint White House news conference with Prime Minister Khan. Since then, he has repeated this offer at least twice, even though Mr Modi rejected the idea in his presence during a G7 meeting in France last month.

Tensions between India and Pakistan reached a feverish pitch on Aug 5, when New Delhi unilaterally annexed Kashmir, revoking a constitutional guarantee that gave a special status to the disputed territory. Islamabad condemned the move as further strengthening of an illegal occupation, downgraded diplomatic ties and severed trade links with India.

Besides the US President, Prime Minister Khan is also expected to meet several other world leaders as part of his strategy to persuade the international community to pay more attention to India’s actions in Kashmir.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1505841/trump-to-meet-imran-modi-for-talks-focusing-on-kashmir

 

[PakLFC]

The 30 day curfew is to weed out the weapons and anti social elements. Let's see, based on reports we are close to lifting the curfew anyway

Give me a break! It is to force as many Kashmiris out oof the valley so the world does not see it. They are trying to Hindunise the place which will never work. Expect violence when the curfew is lifted.

 

[Jin Chacha]

Trump is just playing both sides at the moment. He gives a random comment about mediation every so often to placate our govt while also courting Modi who knows that nothing significant will come out of these statements.

 

[rhony]

Give me a break! It is to force as many Kashmiris out oof the valley so the world does not see it. They are trying to Hindunise the place which will never work. Expect violence when the curfew is lifted.

How are the Kashmiris forced out of the valley? They are in lockdown in their homes

 

[MenInG]

PESHAWAR: Pledging to present the “Kashmir case” at the United Nations General Assembly “like no one ever did before”, Prime Minister Imran Khan on Wednesday said there was no use talking to India unless it lifted curfew and restored the special status of held Kashmir.

“To India’s misfortune, it has been taken over by extremist and racist Hindus. Only a person with an extremist mindset would do what they have done in Kashmir by keeping it under curfew for 45 days,” he said at a presser after inaugurating the Integrated Transit Trade Management System at the Pak-Afghan border.

Torkham, located 55km northwest of here, serves as one of the major border crossings with Afghanistan. The new management system has allowed for round-the-clock trade and immigration facilities at the border crossing.

“I consider this to be a very historic day,” said Mr Khan, who was the first elected prime minister ever to visit the border crossing at Torkham.

Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi accompanied the prime minister. Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Chief Minister Mahmood Khan and Governor Shah Farman received PM Khan at the helipad in Torkham.

The Governor of Afghanistan’s Nangarhar province, Hayatullah Hayat, had driven to Torkham on special invitation to attend the ceremony.

Imran says those wanting to go and fight in occupied valley will do great injustice to Kashmiris; Trump will be asked to resume Afghan peace talks

Prime Minister Khan came down hard on the Indian leadership, whose RSS (Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh) ideology, he said, had led them to hate Muslims and Pakistan. “Their entire policy towards Pakistan is a policy of hatred. This is the RSS policy of hatred towards Muslims. So unless they lift curfew in held Kashmir and rescind the revocation of Article 370, there is no chance of negotiations [with India],” he declared.

Mr Khan is due to address the 74th session of the UN General Assembly later this month.

When a reporter pointedly asked if Pakistan would permit those eager to fight for the Kashmiris, the prime minister said anyone wanting to go and fight in India-held Kashmir would do a great injustice to the Kashmiris by undermining their legitimate cause. “Anyone from Pakistan wanting to fight in Kashmir or go for jihad in Kashmir would do the greatest injustice to the Kashmiris. Such an act would be an act of animosity towards the Kashmiris,” he emphasised.

He said that India, while keeping 900,000 troops in Kashmir, had always been blaming Pakistan for instability in the held territory. “Anyone going from here will give them the pretext to blame Pakistan for cross-border terrorism and infiltrating terrorists,” he said.

Mr Khan said India had accused Pakistan of cross-border terrorism. “The entire world’s attention was drawn towards us, Pakistan,” he said. “Now India is stuck,” he said while referring to international concerns over the state of affairs in the held valley. “And the pressure is building up day by day,” he added.

“Now this is what I am going to say. Anyone making any such attempt [to cross over into Kashmir to fight] would be an enemy of Pakistan as well as an enemy of Kashmiris,” he asserted.

US-Taliban talks

Prime Minister Khan said Pakistan did all that was in its power to facilitate talks between the United States and the Afghan Taliban. “We arranged for the meetings and facilitated the travel of Afghan Taliban to Qatar. Even the Americans acknowledge this. We went to the extent of not participating in the peace talks. We didn’t participate in the talks. Had we known there was some problem, we would have made more efforts,” he added.

“You are right,” PM Khan said when this reporter asked if he too was taken by surprise by US President Donald Trump’s sudden cancellation of peace talks with the Taliban. “We read about the breakdown in talks in newspapers,” he said.

“This is very tragic. They were close to signing a peace agreement,” Mr Khan said, adding: “I have a meeting with President Trump in New York on Monday and would insist that peace dialogue resume.”

The prime minister said peace in Afghanistan was important for Pakistan, adding that Islamabad had tried to convince the Taliban to sit down with the Afghan government and conclude a peace agreement ahead of the elections. He said peace in Afghanistan would open up trade with Central Asian republics which were more than keen to expand trade ties with Pakistan through the Gwadar port.

Mr Khan noted that with the opening of 24/7 trade services at Torkham, trade between Pakistan and Afghanistan had shown 50 per cent increase over the last few days. “But this is nothing compared with the potential of trade with the Central Asian republics. Peace in Afghanistan will transform the entire region,” he said.

Ghotki incident

The prime minister condemned in the strongest terms acts of vandalism against Hindus in Ghotki and said such acts were against the Constitution, the vision of Quaid-i-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah and the spirit of Islam which considered minorities as equal citizens. “This is a conspiracy to undermine my visit to the UNGA. This has been done deliberately to sabotage [my address],” he added.

The prime minister accused the opposition of pursuing a one-point agenda of seeking an NRO [deal] and said that the NRO given by former military dictator Gen Musharraf to the leaders of opposition parties had only harmed the country and added more debt to the national exchequer. “I want to make it clear before the entire nation that no matter what happens, we will not give an NRO to anyone,” the prime minister declared.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1506014/no-talks-till-india-restores-kashmir-special-status-pm

 

[PakLFC]

How are the Kashmiris forced out of the valley? They are in lockdown in their homes

Many are being thrown out as well. They are being made to settle outside the IoK.

 

[rhony]

Many are being thrown out as well. They are being made to settle outside the IoK.

The political leaders in jails in Agra? Other than that there is no evidence or news about this

 

[MenInG]

WASHINGTON: Prime Minister Imran Khan is likely to meet US President Donald Trump in New York on Sept 23, hours after he arrives in the city for the 74th session of the UN General Assembly, diplomatic sources told Dawn.

The sources said that this could be first of the two meetings the prime minister is expected to have with the US leader during the UN session. This would also be President Trump’s second meeting with a South Asian leader in less than 24 hours.

President Trump is scheduled to address a joint rally with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi in Houston, Texas, on Sept 22, hours before he meets the Pakistani leader. President Trump and Mr Modi are also expected to have a separate meeting before or after the rally, focusing on India-Pakistan relations.

The prime minister is expected in New York on Sunday evening, when Mr Trump will be addressing the joint rally of an expected 50,000 American Indians in Houston. Like Mr Khan, most world leaders are also arriving on Monday, launching the high-level debates that will continue till Sept 29.

Both Pakistani and Indian prime ministers are scheduled to address the UN General Assembly on Sept 27. Mr Modi will speak first, late Friday morning, while Prime Minister Khan will speak later in the afternoon.

Prime Minister Khan has already announced that he will highlight the Kashmir issue in his address, exposing the ethical and legal bankruptcy of India’s Aug 5 decision to annex the occupied valley.

Indian diplomats in New York and Washington have informed Indian journalists that Prime Minister Modi will not talk about the Aug 5 action or its consequences. Instead, he would repeat New Delhi’s claim that Pakistan may send militants into the valley to take advantage of the volatile situation.

Prime Minister Khan has already made it clear that Pakistan not only opposes all such activities but has also increased its vigilance to prevent militants from taking advantage of the situation. Islamabad fears that India may use infiltrators to carry out violent attacks inside Kashmir and blame Pakistan.

On Wednesday, the prime minister warned citizens against joining the fight in held Kashmir, saying the Indian authorities were waiting for “any excuse” to crack down on the residents in the Himalayan territory.

“If someone from Pakistan goes to India and he thinks he will fight in Kashmir ... the first person he will be inflicting cruelty on is the Kashmiris. He will have acted as an enemy of the Kashmiris,” Mr Khan said during a speech in Torkham.

President Trump’s recent comments on Kashmir and India-Pakistan relations have triggered speculations about an indirect dialogue between the two South Asian neighbours during the UNGA, with Washington playing the role of a facilitator.

Earlier this week, President Trump told reporters at a White House briefing that “a lot of progress” has been made in defusing India-Pakistan tensions and his statement has strengthened these speculations.

Now that it’s confirmed that Mr Trump will meet both Indian and Pakistani prime ministers before and during the UNGA, diplomatic observers in Washington say the possibility that he may use the meetings to discuss the situation in Kashmir is stronger than ever before.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1506247/trump-imran-to-meet-on-23rd-talks-to-focus-on-kashmir

 

[The streak is Alive]

Must say Modi has Trumped Imran when it comes to Kashmir. All that's lft for Imran is to make a pretty speech that moves no one.

Most people know this would be the eventual outcome. Imran is really not that bright, is he? Getting outfoxed by a chaiwala who can't speak English.

 

[PakLFC]

The political leaders in jails in Agra? Other than that there is no evidence or news about this

There is plenty off evidence if you know where to search. Arnab Goswami or Rahul Shivshanker will not tell you this.

 

[The streak is Alive]

Well good to know that Trump has washed his hands off the matter. India and Pakistan are fully capable of resolving the matter bilaterally.