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Donald Trump says US will "run" Venezuela until new government is formed, after capture of Nicolas Maduro and his wife [Update@ Post#108]]

Whether we examine the pre-1945 League of Nations or the post-1945 UN world order, the language of international law has often been shot through with hypocrisy. Legal norms have consistently remained subordinate to the raw calculus of power. Usually, it is the interests of Great Powers, not the idealistic applications of justice, that dictate outcomes.

As historian Mark Mazower once observed, international law in the nineteenth century 'had been proclaimed as a creed of universal applicability.' Instead, it became a 'vocabulary of permissions, a means of asserting power and control that normalizes the debatable and justifies the exception.’

Yet, historically, even the most cynical Great Powers maintained a veneer of legality, 'routinely preach[ing] the virtues of law' even while 'exempting themselves from many of its constraints.' The Trump administration’s recent military strike and extraction of Maduro dispenses with even this legal pretence. It doesn’t even bother with the 'vocabulary of permissions'.

By bypassing the UN and violating the core sovereignty of a nation, this act strips away the mask of an international rules-based order. It is no longer just power politics dressed up as law. It is the naked law of the jungle.
Meaningless without the context of Treaty of Versailles.

Why did Germany pay the biggest price when it did not start World War 1?

These are the questions that need answering, not some text especially when now there is complete disregard for international law, and history.

The international words you speak of are just a front.
 
We are seeing breakdown of world order in real time. Now if you are half decent rich nation, acquiring hypersonic and nuclear weapons has to be your top priority now.


Nothing much has changed in reality. The USA has been toppling govts in South America for a long while now. Probably cheaper than long distance wars in the middle east.
 
We are seeing breakdown of world order in real time. Now if you are half decent rich nation, acquiring hypersonic and nuclear weapons has to be your top priority now.
Yes it'll be interesting (and scary) to see how the world adapts to the new setup where the US will no longer follow any of the written/unwritten rules of the current world order.

Most countries will have to either fully fall in line or acquire a private deterrent like you say.
 
No. Countries don't need to fall inline.

All that needs doing is dumping the USD. No need for weapons etc. Call in the debts! Unload the US treasures and send the yields into double digits!

Russia, China, Saudi - they're at it already.

USD has lost ground as the world reserve currency as it is in 2025, and this year will get worse for the USD.

Lets see if NATO can save Amreeka from a currency collapse.
 
Yes it'll be interesting (and scary) to see how the world adapts to the new setup where the US will no longer follow any of the written/unwritten rules of the current world order.

Most countries will have to either fully fall in line or acquire a private deterrent like you say.
There never is a vaccum, someone will likely take the place as the leader of non us camp,
 
Yes it'll be interesting (and scary) to see how the world adapts to the new setup where the US will no longer follow any of the written/unwritten rules of the current world order.

Most countries will have to either fully fall in line or acquire a private deterrent like you say.
Countries with resources will now invest in having a proper army.


No more dependence on another country to save their lives, china isn’t fighting any wars, they are happy having lots of money
 
What do you think the world will do if China decides to extract a sitting President or PM, the US will attack China? Of course not.
You think the US will let it lie if China tries that against one of it's allies - especially a valuable ally like Venezuela has been for China?

Yeah there won't be at attack but American exceptionalism applies. There'll be sanctions, possibly a massive arms package for Taiwan...some other stuff guaranteed to utterly infuriate China.

China on the other hand will do nothing.

Different rules for the US and different rules for everyone else.
 
Countries with resources will now invest in having a proper army.


No more dependence on another country to save their lives, china isn’t fighting any wars, they are happy having lots of money

If America is your security guarantor, you’re fine but again there’s levels to which America commits to protecting another nation and it pretty much cones other compromising true sovereignty. We know of many nations who are simply lap dogs to Americans including some in South Asia and it’s a life full of shame.

Thank God, we belong to one of the Top 3 strongest military powers in the world. Soon to be #2 and potentially #1 by 2075 although that might now be late by a few decades if America just takes over a few of these kind of wuzzy nations with no spine.
 
You think the US will let it lie if China tries that against one of it's allies - especially a valuable ally like Venezuela has been for China?

Yeah there won't be at attack but American exceptionalism applies. There'll be sanctions, possibly a massive arms package for Taiwan...some other stuff guaranteed to utterly infuriate China.

China on the other hand will do nothing.

Different rules for the US and different rules for everyone else.

Arm package will create more jobs in US, which in return will make China more money.

Sanctions are just that, sanctions.
 
Arm package will create more jobs in US, which in return will make China more money.

Sanctions are just that, sanctions.

Russia, China, and India have been trading oil under the noses of Amreeka and its sanctions, and Amreeka can't do jack against the big boys. All this talk about falling in line is stuff of wishful thinking and woeful ignorance.

We are witnessing the fastest demise of the shortest lived empire in human history, Amreeka, and it starts with its society crumbling - which it has.
 
@HalBass9

You’re defending China here, which is strange because of China’s gross human rights violations of Muslims.

But anyway, for all their satellites and intel, forget helping defend Venezuela, they couldn’t even safely extract Maduro before the American attacks to save him for the humiliation of becoming a war captive. That’s a Superpower for you seriously? Are you going to be this lenient with the unreliable and purely business minded Chinese as a so called world power
 
@HalBass9

You’re defending China here, which is strange because of China’s gross human rights violations of Muslims.

But anyway, for all their satellites and intel, forget helping defend Venezuela, they couldn’t even safely extract Maduro before the American attacks to save him for the humiliation of becoming a war captive. That’s a Superpower for you seriously? Are you going to be this lenient with the unreliable and purely business minded Chinese as a so called world power

Not defending, highlighting the reality.
 
China will annex more Indian land and neither India nor Bibi nor Amreeka can do anything about it. We've seen this happen already where the cult go crying to their fair and lovely pay masters only to be riddiculed then ignored.

It brilliant to see the cult brick it over the violation of International law, because cult India knows its next to be carved, and has no where to run! (At least Venezuela has a cordial relationship with its neighbours).
 
Arm package will create more jobs in US, which in return will make China more money.

Sanctions are just that, sanctions.
I'm glad you're able to state the obvious but I'm not sure how it has any relevance to the discussion.

Your adopted country is utterly immoral and yes neither China not any other country including yes India is not capable of opposing it yet.

All of us in the rest of the world have to figure out to deal with you guys.
 
I'm glad you're able to state the obvious but I'm not sure how it has any relevance to the discussion.

Your adopted country is utterly immoral and yes neither China not any other country including yes India is not capable of opposing it yet.

All of us in the rest of the world have to figure out to deal with you guys.

Every country operates with a degree of moral compromise. Case in point, India hosting a Bangladeshi fugitive.

As for deals, every country has been making them since WWII. If China decides to extract a dictator or even an elected prime minister, most states would respond in exactly the same pragmatic, self interested way. Morality rarely survives geopolitics.
 
Every country operates with a degree of moral compromise. Case in point, India hosting a Bangladeshi fugitive.

As for deals, every country has been making them since WWII. If China decides to extract a dictator or even an elected prime minister, most states would respond in exactly the same pragmatic, self interested way. Morality rarely survives geopolitics.
Yeah if there's one thing I've realised after years of trying to understand international politics it's that degrees matter. There's no absolute black and white. What matters is how much of the black you're willing to mix into your white.

It's one thing for China to provide superficial support to a North Korean dictator or for India to provide refuge to a Bangladeshi hegemon. What both of us have tried to do at the least is pay lip service to the established world order.

You guys have crossed the Rubicon and decided there are no rules except self interest. It's a new world now.
 
@Rana @Major @DeadlyVenom @HalBass9 @Cpt. Rishwat

Same situation was was discussed during Operation Sindoor during which India was successfully able to neutralise Pakistan by striking its airbases through unstoppable Brahmos missiles. The most devastating and unstoppable missiles deployed currently anywhere in the world. There’s no way a Chinese aerial defence technology can handle that kind of sophisticated armada possessed by modern day offensive superpowers like USA, India, Israel and Russia.

 
@Rana @Major @DeadlyVenom @HalBass9 @Cpt. Rishwat

Same situation was was discussed during Operation Sindoor during which India was successfully able to neutralise Pakistan by striking its airbases through unstoppable Brahmos missiles. The most devastating and unstoppable missiles deployed currently anywhere in the world. There’s no way a Chinese aerial defence technology can handle that kind of sophisticated armada possessed by modern day offensive superpowers like USA, India, Israel and Russia.

From what’s established

It was 7 Indian jets unable to detect a flying learn into them.
 
US denies war with Venezuela as Maduro detained in New York and power struggle deepens

The United States has insisted it is not at war with Venezuela despite a dramatic military operation that led to the capture of President Nicolás Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, and their transfer to detention in New York. US Secretary of State Marco Rubio said Washington’s actions were part of a “law enforcement operation,” not a war, following strikes inside Venezuela that have triggered sharp reactions from Caracas and raised global concern.

“This is not a war against Venezuela,” Rubio told US media, adding that the United States is instead “at war against drug trafficking organisations.” He said congressional authorisation was not required because the operation was “not an invasion,” and described Maduro’s arrest as being carried out “on the ground by FBI agents.” Rubio stressed that the US would judge Venezuela “by what they do next,” warning that Washington would retain “multiple levers of leverage,” including an ongoing oil quarantine, to protect American interests.

In Venezuela, the government has denounced the operation as “military aggression.” Defence Minister Vladimir Padrino claimed a “large part” of Maduro’s security team, along with “innocent civilians,” were killed during the raid, although casualty figures have not been independently verified. He demanded the immediate release of Maduro and Flores, calling their capture a “cowardly kidnapping,” and said the armed forces had been deployed to maintain order.

Crucially, the Venezuelan military has declared its backing for Vice President Delcy Rodríguez as interim president, signalling continuity rather than collapse of the existing power structure. Rodríguez, who also serves as oil minister, chaired a National Defence Council meeting within hours of Maduro’s capture and condemned the US action as a violation of Venezuela’s sovereignty. “What was done to Venezuela can be done to any country,” she said, while insisting that “there is only one president” — Nicolás Maduro.

US officials, however, have sent mixed signals. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said President Donald Trump had told Rodríguez to “lead, or get out of the way,” while Trump himself suggested Washington could temporarily “run” Venezuela. Analysts say the military’s recognition of Rodríguez confirms that Maduro’s allies remain firmly in control on the ground, despite US pressure and psychological shock from images of the detained president.

On the streets of Caracas, life has remained largely calm but tense. Residents told the BBC there is confusion and fear about what comes next, with many worried about whether a peaceful transition is possible after decades of entrenched rule. As Rubio put it, the US believes Maduro’s removal could lead to “a better Venezuela,” but emphasised that “the number one objective is America,” leaving Venezuela facing an uncertain and volatile path ahead.

Source: BBC Live Updates
 
Explosions ring out in Venezuela as Maduro’s government accuses US of attack

At least seven explosions rang out and low-flying aircraft swept through the capital of Venezuela early Saturday, with the government of leader Nicolás Maduro accusing the United States of attacking civilian and military installations following a monthslong pressure campaign.

The Federal Aviation Administration issued a ban on U.S. commercial flights in Venezuelan airspace because of “ongoing military activity” ahead of the explosions in Caracas. There was no immediate comment from the U.S. about its role, the targets or the purpose of the strikes.

The explosions in Caracas sent people rushing into the streets, while others took to social media to report hearing and seeing the blasts. It was not immediately clear if there were casualties. The apparent attack lasted less than 30 minutes, but it was unclear if more actions were ahead. Two hours later, parts of the city remained without power, but vehicles moved freely.

Smoke could be seen rising from the hangar of a military base in Caracas, while another military installation in the capital was without power.

“The whole ground shook. This is horrible. We heard explosions and planes,” said Carmen Hidalgo, a 21-year-old office worker, her voice trembling. She was walking briskly with two relatives, returning from a birthday party. “We felt like the air was hitting us.”

No immediate response from the US

The explosions come as the Trump administration has escalated a pressure campaign on Maduro, who has been charged with narco-terrorism in the United States. The CIA was behind a drone strike last week at a docking area believed to have been used by Venezuelan drug cartels in what was the first known direct operation on Venezuelan soil since the U.S. began strikes in September.

President Donald Trump for months had threatened that he could soon order strikes on targets on Venezuelan land following months of attacks on boats accused of carrying drugs. Maduro has decried the U.S. military operations as a thinly veiled effort to oust him from power.

Pentagon referred requests for comment to the White House, which didn’t immediately return calls or emails seeking comment. Calls to the U.S. Southern Command, which oversees military operations in the region, went unanswered.

Trump is at his private club in Palm Beach, Florida, where he has spent the last two weeks for the holiday season. His public schedule showed he was set to receive an intelligence briefing on Friday evening, hours before the reported strikes. He offered no immediate comment on social media.

Venezuelan president calls people to action

Venezuela’s government called on its supporters to take to the streets.

“People to the streets!” it said in a statement. “The Bolivarian Government calls on all social and political forces in the country to activate mobilization plans and repudiate this imperialist attack.”

The statement added that Maduro had “ordered all national defense plans to be implemented” and declared “a state of external disturbance.” That state of emergency gives him the power to suspend people’s rights and expand the role of the armed forces.

The website of the U.S. Embassy in Venezuela, a post that has been closed since 2019, issued a warning to American citizens in the country, saying it was “aware of reports of explosions in and around Caracas.”

“U.S. citizens in Venezuela should shelter in place,” the warning said.

The FAA warned all commercial and private U.S. pilots that the airspace over Venezuela and the small island nation of Curacao, just off the coast of the country to the north, was off-limits “due to safety-of-flight risks associated with ongoing military activity.”

Brewing tensions

The explosions come amid the Trump administration’s escalating military actions in the region. The U.S. has seized sanctioned oil tankers off the coast of Venezuela, and Trump ordered a blockade of others in a move that seemed designed to put a tighter chokehold on the South American country’s economy.

The U.S. military has been attacking boats in the Caribbean Sea and the eastern Pacific Ocean since early September. As of Friday, the number of known boat strikes is 35 and the number of people killed is at least 115, according to numbers announced by the Trump administration.

They followed a major buildup of American forces in the waters off South America, including the arrival in November of the nation’s most advanced aircraft carrier, which added thousands more troops to what was already the largest military presence in the region in generations.

Trump has justified the boat strikes as a necessary escalation to stem the flow of drugs into the U.S. and asserted that the U.S. is engaged in an “armed conflict” with drug cartels.

On Friday, Venezuela said it was open to negotiating an agreement with the U.S. to combat drug trafficking.

Maduro also said in a pretaped interview aired Thursday that the U.S. wants to force a government change in Venezuela and gain access to its vast oil reserves through the pressure campaign.

Meanwhile, Iranian state television reported on the explosions in Caracas on Saturday, showing images of the Venezuelan capital. Iran has been close to Venezuela for years, in part due to their shared enmity of the U.S.

Been living here since my childhood and never knew that it was Venezuela which supplies drugs to US and nobody believes it.
 
@Rana @Major @DeadlyVenom @HalBass9 @Cpt. Rishwat

Same situation was was discussed during Operation Sindoor during which India was successfully able to neutralise Pakistan by striking its airbases through unstoppable Brahmos missiles. The most devastating and unstoppable missiles deployed currently anywhere in the world. There’s no way a Chinese aerial defence technology can handle that kind of sophisticated armada possessed by modern day offensive superpowers like USA, India, Israel and Russia.

Bhai, tu pehlay asia cup ke trophy hum sey wapas laylay, phir baki baad mein sochi
 
@HalBass9

You’re defending China here, which is strange because of China’s gross human rights violations of Muslims.

But anyway, for all their satellites and intel, forget helping defend Venezuela, they couldn’t even safely extract Maduro before the American attacks to save him for the humiliation of becoming a war captive. That’s a Superpower for you seriously? Are you going to be this lenient with the unreliable and purely business minded Chinese as a so called world power
He is thinking china is pakistans security guarantor, its not
 
Bhai, tu pehlay asia cup ke trophy hum sey wapas laylay, phir baki baad mein sochi
Trophy is with acc and not Pakistan, pehle trophy lele phir dene ki baat karna

Naqvis acc term will be over in April 27and then he will cry and whine while the trophy will come to India by itself without any effort
 
Trophy is with acc and not Pakistan, pehle trophy lele phir dene ki baat karna

Naqvis acc term will be over in April 27and then he will cry and whine while the trophy will come to India by itself without any effort
Matlab, the all powerful india couldnt take trophy from ACC...

So you admit the reason why u cant get the trophy is Naqvi.

Thanks for admitting it.
 
Those who are saying that US is only after oil
Yeah if there's one thing I've realised after years of trying to understand international politics it's that degrees matter. There's no absolute black and white. What matters is how much of the black you're willing to mix into your white.

It's one thing for China to provide superficial support to a North Korean dictator or for India to provide refuge to a Bangladeshi hegemon. What both of us have tried to do at the least is pay lip service to the established world order.

You guys have crossed the Rubicon and decided there are no rules except self interest. It's a new world now.

You’re responding as if I’m defending something, I’m not.

There has never been a genuine “world order” for imperial powers. What exists today is a post WWII arrangement, not some timeless moral framework.

States have always acted out of self interest. China backing Venezuela or Bangladesh sheltering fugitives isn’t about principles, it’s the same strategic self interest that has always driven nations.
 
If the Don Doctrine actually comes into play like they’re banking on, Alberta might want to start shopping around for new oil buyers.
 
Russia, China, and India have been trading oil under the noses of Amreeka and its sanctions, and Amreeka can't do jack against the big boys. All this talk about falling in line is stuff of wishful thinking and woeful ignorance.

We are witnessing the fastest demise of the shortest lived empire in human history, Amreeka, and it starts with its society crumbling - which it has.
Name the top10 major economies that will violate us sanctions for china?

What India did for Russia it will never do for china
 
Matlab, the all powerful india couldnt take trophy from ACC...

So you admit the reason why u cant get the trophy is Naqvi.

Thanks for admitting it.
Bthe title is officially indias, acc having the trophy for a few days makes no difference, bcci has time on its side Naqvi doesn’t
 
Venezuelan Air Defence operator to China: Hello Control Room, Hello, Americans are coming what to do now bro?

Chinese man: Bhai wo laaal button dikh raha hae? 🚨

Venezuelan operator : Haan bhai daba diya

Chinese man: Nahi dabana thhha 🫥


Chinese man: Hello Sir, what happened? Can you please clear the overdues.

Venezuelan operator : We got hit, I am dying.

Chinese man: Ok sorry to hear dear. Can you reach your credit card though? It won’t take long

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
No. Countries don't need to fall inline.

All that needs doing is dumping the USD. No need for weapons etc. Call in the debts! Unload the US treasures and send the yields into double digits!

Russia, China, Saudi - they're at it already.

USD has lost ground as the world reserve currency as it is in 2025, and this year will get worse for the USD.

Lets see if NATO can save Amreeka from a currency collapse.

Can't wait for that to happen. Want to see an end to petrodollar and global trade in dollars. World will be a lot more peaceful with a lot less wars and terrorism if this thug terrorist world police wanabe America is set in line eventually. Hope it happens in our lifetime. Dollar dominance, US invasions and destructions of other countries, and Zionist Israel's terrorism is all interlinked to supremacy of US at the global stage... the sooner it dies, the better for the world
 
Venezuelan Air Defence operator to China: Hello Control Room, Hello, Americans are coming what to do now bro?

Chinese man: Bhai wo laaal button dikh raha hae? 🚨

Venezuelan operator : Haan bhai daba diya

Chinese man: Nahi dabana thhha 🫥


Chinese man: Hello Sir, what happened? Can you please clear the overdues.

Venezuelan operator : We got hit, I am dying.

Chinese man: Ok sorry to hear dear. Can you reach your credit card though? It won’t take long

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Knowing that call center scams are an indian creation, maybe replace chinese man with indian man
 
You think the US will let it lie if China tries that against one of it's allies - especially a valuable ally like Venezuela has been for China?

Yeah there won't be at attack but American exceptionalism applies. There'll be sanctions, possibly a massive arms package for Taiwan...some other stuff guaranteed to utterly infuriate China.

China on the other hand will do nothing.

Different rules for the US and different rules for everyone else.
what did Venezuela Bring to table for China except oil against massive loan they owe to China? Even That oil is 3-4% of total Chinese Oil Imports around the Globe and they have got plenty of options to Pivot around and recover that 3-4 % . Just Because US will control Venezuella Does nt mean they will stop owing debt to China. Can US refuse to pay Chinese Debts on US itself? Of Course not.
 
I was about to reply with "pleej pay by credit card or apple card from a grocery store Saar.." is an actual profession of a specific nation lol


First of all, no call centre scammer speaks like that. You gotta give them credit for fake accent. That’s all I have got to say about that.
 
Americans saw this you and laughed, then went on to capture Maduro in an hour’s time from the national capital lol


Now you know how things got so easy for India in May 2025. Brahmos was hitting Pakistani sites at will.
 
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Americans saw this you and laughed, then went on to capture Maduro in an hour’s time from the national capital lol


Now you know how things got so easy for India in May 2025. Brahmos was hitting Pakistani sites at will.
I think India should attempt a similar operation in Pakistan and attempt to capture Asim Munir. What do you say @Bhaijaan?
 
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I think India should attempt a similar operation in Pakistan and attempt to capture Asim Munir. What do you say @Bhaijaan?

Spare his wife.
Just capture him from his brothel, make him sit on a donkey and be paraded through the streets of Chawri Bazar but release him on the condition that he would become a good Muslim.
 
what did Venezuela Bring to table for China except oil against massive loan they owe to China? Even That oil is 3-4% of total Chinese Oil Imports around the Globe and they have got plenty of options to Pivot around and recover that 3-4 % . Just Because US will control Venezuella Does nt mean they will stop owing debt to China. Can US refuse to pay Chinese Debts on US itself? Of Course not.
I guess it depends on how a country interprets being a superpower. Both the US and formerly the USSR believed in farflung power projection.

The US has a whole bunch of redline countries and territories other powers are not allowed to interfere with. A non-exhaustive list would be Israel, Taiwan, Saudi, Canada, most of NATO etc. China basically only has a couple - North Korea, Myanmar. Maybe Vietnam if you stretch the definition.

That same low impact you're calling out would be interpreted differently by both of them. For the US it would be - "how dare anyone interfere with 3-4% of our oil supply?"

I'm not even sure which is more effective. What is certain though is that the US is definitely more feared. For example, Pakistan is clearly in the China camp. The US offers virtually nothing to Pakistan compared to China - no investment, hardly any military equipment and now no loans or aid. Yet it openly interferes and influences at will including in critical matters like government and policy.
 
Trump warns new Venezuelan leader as Maduro set to appear in court

Donald Trump has warned Venezuela's new leader Delcy Rodríguez she could "pay a very big price, probably bigger than Maduro" if she "doesn't do what's right".

His comments to US magazine The Atlantic came as the country's deposed president Nicolás Maduro was set to appear in a New York court on Monday.

The US accuses Maduro, who is charged with drug trafficking and weapons offences, of running a "narco-terrorist" regime, a claim he denies.

Rodríguez - who served as Maduro's vice president - adopted a conciliatory tone at her first cabinet meeting on Sunday, offering co-operation with the US.

"We invite the US government to collaborate with us on an agenda of co-operation orientated towards shared development within the framework of international law," she said.

Backed by Venezuela's Supreme Court and the military, she will be sworn in as president on Monday in Caracas, at 08:00 local time (12:00 GMT).

US Secretary of State Marco Rubio has insisted the US is not at war with Venezuela, after air strikes in Caracas on Saturday led to Maduro and his wife being taken into custody and transported to the US.

Some Democratic lawmakers said the operation was an "act of war".

In an interview with The Atlantic on Sunday, Trump said of Rodríguez: "If she doesn't do what's right, she is going to pay a very big price, probably bigger than Maduro."

He added that for Venezuela,"Regime change, anything you want to call it, is better than what you have right now. Can't get any worse".

 
I guess it depends on how a country interprets being a superpower. Both the US and formerly the USSR believed in farflung power projection.

The US has a whole bunch of redline countries and territories other powers are not allowed to interfere with. A non-exhaustive list would be Israel, Taiwan, Saudi, Canada, most of NATO etc. China basically only has a couple - North Korea, Myanmar. Maybe Vietnam if you stretch the definition.

That same low impact you're calling out would be interpreted differently by both of them. For the US it would be - "how dare anyone interfere with 3-4% of our oil supply?"

I'm not even sure which is more effective. What is certain though is that the US is definitely more feared. For example, Pakistan is clearly in the China camp. The US offers virtually nothing to Pakistan compared to China - no investment, hardly any military equipment and now no loans or aid. Yet it openly interferes and influences at will including in critical matters like government and policy.

Being Super Power Does nt Mean that you have to project Power in Far Flung Areas. And you need Navy Like US to do that , Despite catching up Quickly , China is still behind US in terms of raw power US navy posesses. on top of that , Venezuella Is right at door step of US , Why would China or Russia Bother to go to South America and protect a country that has no strategic signficance for Either of Them. You think if China took over Taiwan , US would Intervene Directly with its Military? Highly unlikely

US offers nothing to Pak? Are you Sure? Because Last May , Trump was ridiculed by your fellow countrymen because Indians thought Donald Trump Aka Uncle Sam Interferred and worked in interest of Pak. Aid or Military equipment supply may have dried out but US still wants to have influence on Pak because it is a sole Muslim Nuclear State and ita very hard for US to ignore that.
 
First of all, no call centre scammer speaks like that. You gotta give them credit for fake accent. That’s all I have got to say about that.

All your call centers speak like that.

And I assume you are naive enough to fall for it when your Bharti scammers named Rakesh or Prakash say their names are John Mcdonald or George Washingpowder from Texas or Florida working for IRS and needing payment in Apple pay with that thick Bharti angrezi accent. Just type "scammer" on YouTube bar and you ll get millions of videos of your beloved Bharti's top profession.
 
Americans saw this you and laughed, then went on to capture Maduro in an hour’s time from the national capital lol


Now you know how things got so easy for India in May 2025. Brahmos was hitting Pakistani sites at will.

Is that why you were running away from IPL games, entire IPL got shutdown from India, BBC and other resources reporting barrage of missles response from Pakistan and Pakistan destroying multiple indian jets and sites, and Modi weeping on national television "Pakistan nae jawab mein hum par he hamla kar dalaa"? Just another humiliation it was for India just like Abhinandan's humiliating saga, but this was at a much more epic grand scale. 4 days and you were down on your knees begging for US intervention.

Stick to invading Pakistan in Bollywood reels only where you get thumka and disco breaks in between the chest thumping nationalist Bharat Maata org*sms on big screen lol
 
All your call centers speak like that.

And I assume you are naive enough to fall for it when your Bharti scammers named Rakesh or Prakash say their names are John Mcdonald or George Washingpowder from Texas or Florida working for IRS and needing payment in Apple pay with that thick Bharti angrezi accent. Just type "scammer" on YouTube bar and you ll get millions of videos of your beloved Bharti's top profession.
🤣🤣🤣

George Washingpowder!

🤣🤣🤣
 
Matlab, the all powerful india couldnt take trophy from ACC...

So you admit the reason why u cant get the trophy is Naqvi.

Thanks for admitting it.

The trophy is going to to come by itself

U know y BCCI is BCCI and pcb isn’t, because BCCI haa patience and they don’t act desperate they know they don’t need to do anythingand things will fall in place by itself, y bother, just prepare the ground, in case things need escalation.

Naqvi doesy own or run acc, it’s not pcb
 
All your call centers speak like that.

And I assume you are naive enough to fall for it when your Bharti scammers named Rakesh or Prakash say their names are John Mcdonald or George Washingpowder from Texas or Florida working for IRS and needing payment in Apple pay with that thick Bharti angrezi accent. Just type "scammer" on YouTube bar and you ll get millions of videos of your beloved Bharti's top profession.


Poor you, hurt that Pakistani can’t even get call centre jobs because of poor English
 
The trophy is going to to come by itself

U know y BCCI is BCCI and pcb isn’t, because BCCI haa patience and they don’t act desperate they know they don’t need to do anythingand things will fall in place by itself, y bother, just prepare the ground, in case things need escalation.

Naqvi doesy own or run acc, it’s not pcb
Matlab u guys cant get it from Naqvi.

So BCCI is BCCI but had to bow down to Naqvi
 
Matlab u guys cant get it from Naqvi.

So BCCI is BCCI but had to bow down to Naqvi

What do you want us to do? Manhandle an old man and forcefully take the trophy off his hands? That trophy is useless. We already won. Have your team phainty not once not twice but THREE TIMES IN A ROW 😅
 
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