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Donald Trump says US will "run" Venezuela until new government is formed, after capture of Nicolas Maduro and his wife [Update@ Post#108]]

Not a fan of Trump I think he's some weird childish bully. But I'm actually going to defend trump here. Yes it sets the wrong precedence some foreign country coming in. But I also think it's immoral to leave a countries citizens suffering in the hands of a dictator just because of precedence. Yes Trump probably did it for other reasons, I'm not sure whether the narco terrorism charge is true or not. But I'm sure most Venezuelans want him gone even if perhaps they didn't want US to come and do it personally.

North Korea is a much worse situation. And if Trump next day said we're going to come in and take their dictator out I would be all aboard. But they can't do it, because of nuclear weapons and China's support even if they wanted to.

And dictators are very difficult to get rid of in a country. In a democracy however bad the ruler is you can at least vote them out. That's why I can't say I'm too mad about this even if it might be ethically wrong for US to do this on some level, if it actually saves the Venezuelans a few more decades of Maduro's rule.
I'm all in favour of removing dictators in theory, but the question is how to create sustainable governance structures in place of these regimes. And it's a safe bet to assume Trump and his sidekicks had about as much interest in planning and building a democratic Venezuela prior to launching these strikes as Napoleon had interest in pacifism.

We saw the folly of removing Saddam in 2003 without a "day after" plan. Iraq was soon overrun by looting, lawlessness and sectarian violence. There was also a massive outflow of refugees destabilising the entire region which could occur if Venezuela similarly devolves into anarchy.

Now perhaps Venezuela seamlessly transitions into a representative democracy - but it's more likely the US seeks to install a pliant regime, democratic or not, to aid in resource extraction as they've done repeatedly in the past except Trump unlike previous Presidents makes these goals explicit.
 
I'm all in favour of removing dictators in theory, but the question is how to create sustainable governance structures in place of these regimes. And it's a safe bet to assume Trump and his sidekicks had about as much interest in planning and building a democratic Venezuela prior to launching these strikes as Napoleon had interest in pacifism.

We saw the folly of removing Saddam in 2003 without a "day after" plan. Iraq was soon overrun by looting, lawlessness and sectarian violence. There was also a massive outflow of refugees destabilising the entire region which could occur if Venezuela similarly devolves into anarchy.

Now perhaps Venezuela seamlessly transitions into a representative democracy - but it's more likely the US seeks to install a pliant regime, democratic or not, to aid in resource extraction as they've done repeatedly in the past except Trump unlike previous Presidents makes these goals explicit.
I agree dictators and dictatorship subvert the will of the people and need to be removed. The question why are some removed or others are supported with loans and given full protocol? 🤔
 
Not a fan of Trump I think he's some weird childish bully. But I'm actually going to defend trump here. Yes it sets the wrong precedence some foreign country coming in. But I also think it's immoral to leave a countries citizens suffering in the hands of a dictator just because of precedence. Yes Trump probably did it for other reasons, I'm not sure whether the narco terrorism charge is true or not. But I'm sure most Venezuelans want him gone even if perhaps they didn't want US to come and do it personally.

North Korea is a much worse situation. And if Trump next day said we're going to come in and take their dictator out I would be all aboard. But they can't do it, because of nuclear weapons and China's support even if they wanted to.

And dictators are very difficult to get rid of in a country. In a democracy however bad the ruler is you can at least vote them out. That's why I can't say I'm too mad about this even if it might be ethically wrong for US to do this on some level, if it actually saves the Venezuelans a few more decades of Maduro's rule.

What evidence do you have for this ‘sure’ claim ? If none , the rest of you posts fall apart . Also explain why is he a dictator and why you also feel another nation has the right to abduct other leaders?
 
America had 4 years (2020-2024) to lock up Trump or at least ban him from running. He had many offenses; that should've been easy.

They instead went easy on him. Look what he has done after coming to office. Damaged global economy, damaged crypto industry, and caused many wars/bloodsheds.

Most childish, incompetent, and destructive president in America's history.
 
America had 4 years (2020-2024) to lock up Trump or at least ban him from running. He had many offenses; that should've been easy.

They instead went easy on him. Look what he has done after coming to office. Damaged global economy, damaged crypto industry, and caused many wars/bloodsheds.

Most childish, incompetent, and destructive president in America's history.


They are all the same. If it wasn't Trump it would be Obama or Hilary Clinton doing the same thing.

If the heat is getting too much in the middle east, they should consider flying Bibi Netenyahu to the US and inaugurating him as the next President of the USA.
 
They are all the same. If it wasn't Trump it would be Obama or Hilary Clinton doing the same thing.

If the heat is getting too much in the middle east, they should consider flying Bibi Netenyahu to the US and inaugurating him as the next President of the USA.

I think Trump is more destructive.
 
What evidence do you have for this ‘sure’ claim ? If none , the rest of you posts fall apart . Also explain why is he a dictator and why you also feel another nation has the right to abduct other leaders?
Got family in south america and we talk. Go read the reddit message boards to see Venezuelans, or the 7 million people who have fled the country. The reports by Amnesty international of the extrajudicial executions. But you are right, there is a chance that Maduro is a good guy and is being falsely reported in the news as a dictator. It's just pretty unlikely.

No country has the right to abduct other leaders. I acknowledge that. At the same time it also feels morally wrong to let a nation suffer in the hands of a dictator when you can do something about it.

It's a tough argument, and I see merits on both sides. Maybe it's wrong. It's just I won't lose sleep over Maduro being removed. And unfortunately in the world it can be seen just how hard it is to remove dictatorships without external assistance.
 
Cuba needs to be worried now

Alongwith Denmark and its Greenland territory

You have usa clearing its backyard and projecting into Pacific
And its little brother israel projecting in middle east , regime change is definetly on the cards in iran won't be simple as this venuzuela operation
 
From X.

The real reason the US is invading Venezuela goes back to a deal Henry Kissinger made with Saudi Arabia in 1974.

And I'm going to explain why this is actually about the SURVIVAL of the US dollar itself.

Not drugs. Not terrorism. Not "democracy."

This is about the petrodollar system that has kept America the dominant economic power for 50 years.

And Venezuela just threatened to end it.

Here's what really just happened:

Venezuela has 303 billion barrels of proven oil reserves.

The largest on Earth.

More than Saudi Arabia.

20% of the entire world's oil.

But here's the part that matters:

Venezuela was actively selling that oil in Chinese yuan. Not dollars.

In 2018, Venezuela announced it would "free itself from the dollar."

They started accepting yuan, euros, rubles, anything BUT dollars for oil.

They were petitioning to join BRICS.

They were building direct payment channels with China that bypass SWIFT entirely.

And they were sitting on enough oil to fund de-dollarization for decades.

Why does this matter?

Because the entire American financial system is built on one thing:

The petrodollar.

In 1974, Henry Kissinger made a deal with Saudi Arabia:

All oil sold globally must be priced in US dollars.

In exchange, America provides military protection.

This single agreement created artificial demand for dollars worldwide.

Every country on Earth needs dollars to buy oil.

This lets America print unlimited money while other countries work for it.

It funds the military. The welfare state. The deficit spending.

The petrodollar is more important to US hegemony than aircraft carriers.

And there's a pattern of what happens to leaders who challenge it:

2000: Saddam Hussein announces Iraq will sell oil in euros instead of dollars.

2003: Invaded. Regime change. Iraq's oil immediately switched back to dollars. Saddam lynched.

The WMDs were never found because they never existed.

2009: Gaddafi proposes a gold-backed African currency called the "gold dinar" for oil trade.

Hillary Clinton's own leaked emails confirm this was the PRIMARY reason for intervention.

Email quote: "This gold was intended to establish a pan-African currency based on the Libyan golden Dinar."

2011: NATO bombs Libya. Gaddafi sodomized and murdered. Libya now has open slave markets.

"We came, we saw, he died!" Clinton laughed on camera.

The gold dinar died with him.

And now Maduro.

With FIVE TIMES more oil than Saddam and Gaddafi combined.

Actively selling in yuan.

Building payment systems outside dollar control.

Petitioning to join BRICS.

Partnered with China, Russia, and Iran.

The three countries leading global de-dollarization.

This isn't coincidence.

Challenge the petrodollar. Get regime changed.

Every. Single. Time.

Stephen Miller (US homeland security advisor) literally said it out loud two weeks ago:

"American sweat, ingenuity and toil created the oil industry in Venezuela. Its tyrannical expropriation was the largest recorded theft of American wealth and property."

He's not hiding it.

They're claiming Venezuelan oil BELONGS to America because US companies developed it 100 years ago.

By this logic, every nationalized resource in history was "theft."

But here's the DEEPER problem:

The petrodollar is already dying.

Russia sells oil in rubles and yuan since Ukraine.

Saudi Arabia is openly discussing yuan settlements.

Iran has been trading in non-dollar currencies for years.

China built CIPS, their own alternative to SWIFT with 4,800 banks in 185 countries.

BRICS is actively building payment systems that bypass the dollar entirely.

The mBridge project lets central banks settle trades instantly in local currencies.

Venezuela joining BRICS with 303 billion barrels of oil would accelerate this exponentially.

That's what this invasion is really about.

Not stopping drugs. Venezuela accounts for less than 1% of US cocaine.

Not terrorism. There's zero evidence Maduro runs a "terror organization."

Not democracy. The US supports Saudi Arabia, which has zero elections.

This is about maintaining a 50-year-old agreement that lets America print money while the world works for it.

And the consequences are terrifying:

Russia, China, and Iran are already denouncing this as "armed aggression."

China is Venezuela's biggest oil customer. They're losing billions.

BRICS nations are watching a country get invaded for trading outside the dollar.

Every nation considering de-dollarization just got the message:

Challenge the dollar and we will bomb you.

But here's the problem...

That message might accelerate de-dollarization, not stop it.

Because now every country in the Global South knows what happens if you threaten dollar hegemony.

And they're realizing the only protection is to move FASTER.

The timing is insane too:

January 3rd, 2026. Venezuela invaded. Maduro captured.

January 3rd, 1990. Panama invaded. Noriega captured.

36 years apart. Almost to the day.

Same playbook. Same "drug trafficking" excuse.

Same real reason: control of strategic resources and trade routes.

History doesn't repeat. But it rhymes.

What happens next:

Trump's press conference at Mar-a-Lago sets the narrative.

US oil companies are already lined up. Politico reported they've been approached about "returning to Venezuela."

The opposition will be installed. Oil will flow in dollars again.

Venezuela becomes another Iraq. Another Libya.

But here's what nobody's asking:

What happens when you can no longer bomb your way to dollar dominance?

When China has enough economic leverage to retaliate?

When BRICS controls 40% of global GDP and says "no more dollars"?

When the world realizes the petrodollar is maintained by violence?

America just showed its hand.

The question is whether the rest of the world folds or calls the bluff.

Because this invasion is an admission that the dollar can no longer compete on its own merits.

When you have to bomb countries to keep them using your currency, the currency is already dying.

Venezuela isn't the beginning.

It's the desperate end.
 
Who d f is this raj? Have you tried to even know or google it’s meaning or you just spout it thinking it comes as smart


Why are you getting so triggered? I am basically agreeing with you. Maybe you should google Trump's lineage and you might put the pieces together. I believe his ancestral roots are Scotland.
 
Trump says US to ‘run’ Venezuela until ‘safe transition’

Trump has said the US will run Venezuela until there is a “safe transition” of power.

“We’re going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition.

“We don’t want to be involved with somebody else getting in and we have the same situation we had for the last long period of years.”

 
What's India's response ? Modi will give a cowardly evasive statement typical of his government.

He’s playing 7-D chess.
Always gonna have the upper hand because nobody knows or understands diplomacy I’m better than him. He is Chanakaya’s favorite pupil.
 
Trump says US to ‘run’ Venezuela until ‘safe transition’

Trump has said the US will run Venezuela until there is a “safe transition” of power.

“We’re going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper and judicious transition.

“We don’t want to be involved with somebody else getting in and we have the same situation we had for the last long period of years.”


Mr Trump,

We would like to hear your best offer for 100 million barrels.

It’s also time to renegotiate our tariffs and discuss F-35s.

Thanks
Nagendra
 
Always attacking weak to steal resources and spreading their illegal invasions. How this terrorist country of US keeps getting away with barbarism and bombing foreign nations time and time again is quite pathetic. Funny how they wouldn't dare to take such actions against China, Russia, NK or Iran because they know far well of the consequences. And no surprises a puppet Zionist Venezuelan is being supported by US/West now to lead the country.... always the same narrative, just different people
 
Not a fan of Trump I think he's some weird childish bully. But I'm actually going to defend trump here. Yes it sets the wrong precedence some foreign country coming in. But I also think it's immoral to leave a countries citizens suffering in the hands of a dictator just because of precedence. Yes Trump probably did it for other reasons, I'm not sure whether the narco terrorism charge is true or not. But I'm sure most Venezuelans want him gone even if perhaps they didn't want US to come and do it personally.

North Korea is a much worse situation. And if Trump next day said we're going to come in and take their dictator out I would be all aboard. But they can't do it, because of nuclear weapons and China's support even if they wanted to.

And dictators are very difficult to get rid of in a country. In a democracy however bad the ruler is you can at least vote them out. That's why I can't say I'm too mad about this even if it might be ethically wrong for US to do this on some level, if it actually saves the Venezuelans a few more decades of Maduro's rule.
What guarantees are there that Venezuela will see prosperity and not become another Iraq/Libya?
 
Removal of Maduro is only a good thing as he was a dictator and millions of Venezuelans fled the country. However, this attack is certainly illegal without the permission of the US Congress and the UNSC. The US keeps flouting international law but expects everyone else to adhere to it.

I have never detested a country more! I hope there is a civil war in America that ensures its permanent decline.
 
What guarantees are there that Venezuela will see prosperity and not become another Iraq/Libya?

That is unlikely .. the entire venezuelan govt machinery is still intact aka its bureacrats, police and army and also no religious ideology to motivate people.
 
What is there to say? That was some drastic move and sends a wrong signal to the world. Countries might start dancing to Trump's tunes begrudgingly.

Basically Trump is saying, if you do not bow down to US, you are toast. Not a fan of such tactics. But we are just mute spectators. More than Venezuela, Columbia is the primary source of narcotics in US. This kidnapping was done right in front of Chinese officials. Perhaps to send a signal to China about the strength of US. I feel there is a lot more to this act of US. China a couple of days ago said that they will take Taiwan and no one can stop them. :mv
 
China won’t take Taiwan as it is not ready. The Chinese are not stupid and will only make a move if they think they are capable and have complete military superiority. They are still building up their military might. Probably in maybe 20/30 years.
 

'We shed no tears' about end of Maduro's regime, says Starmer​


Prime Minister Keir Starmer says the UK has "long supported a transition of power in Venezuela".

Starmer says in a post on X: "We regarded Maduro as an illegitimate President and we shed no tears about the end of his regime. I reiterated my support for international law this morning."

He adds that the UK government will discuss the "evolving situation with US counterparts" in the coming days and "seek a safe and peaceful transition to a legitimate government that reflects the will of the Venezuelan people".

Source: Al Jazeera
 

'We shed no tears' about end of Maduro's regime, says Starmer​


Prime Minister Keir Starmer says the UK has "long supported a transition of power in Venezuela".

Starmer says in a post on X: "We regarded Maduro as an illegitimate President and we shed no tears about the end of his regime. I reiterated my support for international law this morning."

He adds that the UK government will discuss the "evolving situation with US counterparts" in the coming days and "seek a safe and peaceful transition to a legitimate government that reflects the will of the Venezuelan people".

Source: Al Jazeera
not surprised, starmer in the pocket of Blackrock
 
Trump said action on Venezuela because of narco tourism and illegal migrants to US from Venezuela. Then Putin was also right in invading Ukraine as Ukraine wanted to become nato member and giving trouble to Russia.

Trump is hypocrite
 
Even if Trump cited narco terrorism and Venezuelian illegal migrants to US as the reason for invading Venezuela, the real reason is Venezuela have largest oil reserves. Every country have the right to sell its oil to any country they want... China is buying large pie of Venezuelian oil... this is why Trump have angst on Venezuela President.

When India buy oil from Russia, Trump levied 50% tarrif on India. It shows that Trump wants to control world's oil business by hook or crook.

This is the beginning of 3rd world war and Trump just igniting it.
 
Remember US and Saudi Aramco deal coming to end in 2030. What if Saudi decided not to renew its oil agreement with US, will Trump invade Saudi and captured Saudi king Salman?
 
Saw a great video why Venezuela's oil is strategic for America:



The video explains why Venezuela remains strategically important to the United States and global geopolitics, focusing especially on oil — not just politics or drugs.

🛢️ Key points:
  • Huge oil reserves:
    Venezuela has the largest proven oil reserves in the world (over ~304 billion barrels), far more than the U.S. currently needs.
  • Heavy vs. light crude:
    • The U.S. produces a lot of light crude oil, especially from shale.
    • But many U.S. refineries (especially in the Gulf Coast) are designed to process heavy crude — which Venezuela produces in abundance and which is hard to replace with light crude without expensive conversion.
  • Strategic value:
    Because heavy crude is essential for those refineries and difficult to replace, Venezuela’s oil remains geopolitically valuable to the U.S., Canada, and other major economies.

💡 Implication:
Even though the U.S. is a major oil producer, it still imports heavy crude because of refinery needs. That gives countries like Venezuela (and Canada and Russia) important strategic leverage in global energy markets and geopolitics.
 
From reading Venezuelans' opinions online - and not just to do with last night's events, they still look at the Chavez era with nostalgia when in fact it's quite clear that the rot set in during his era.

In a way, you can say he passed on at the right time (for his own legacy).
 
So much for the people who were praising Trump as the 'President of peace' or whatever nonsense. Besides the countless regime change operations they [the US] have executed in Latin American over the years, they did pretty much the same thing to Manuel Noriega, only he was a much smaller fish. In the past they used to spout nonsense about democracy or whatever to justify their actions, now they have stopped even doing that. The blatant theft of resources of a sovereign country, couldn't be more blatant.
 
If you read the news of the Epstein file leaks you could understand why he needs a big distraction right now.
Yes he needs a distraction - but this situation kills 2 birds with 1 stone. He gets the distraction and he gets regime change for America's resourse control agenda.
 

'We shed no tears' about end of Maduro's regime, says Starmer​


Prime Minister Keir Starmer says the UK has "long supported a transition of power in Venezuela".

Starmer says in a post on X: "We regarded Maduro as an illegitimate President and we shed no tears about the end of his regime. I reiterated my support for international law this morning."

He adds that the UK government will discuss the "evolving situation with US counterparts" in the coming days and "seek a safe and peaceful transition to a legitimate government that reflects the will of the Venezuelan people".

Source: Al Jazeera
How can the dog disobey it's master? Especially when it's such a obedient dog
 
Yes he needs a distraction - but this situation kills 2 birds with 1 stone. He gets the distraction and he gets regime change for America's resourse control agenda.

I’m not sure he will get regime change. Maduro gone but the new sworn in president is more popular, has more political power and so far is resisting. The US gambled after a brazen kidnapping the rest out of fear would fall in line. If not an invading force will need to be sent . Regime change is yet to occur .
 
I’m not sure he will get regime change. Maduro gone but the new sworn in president is more popular, has more political power and so far is resisting. The US gambled after a brazen kidnapping the rest out of fear would fall in line. If not an invading force will need to be sent . Regime change is yet to occur .
He may not get the total control he's hoping for but he'll get plenty. An operation of this scale - breaking into the presidential palace and kidnapping the head of state from what Trump himself called a 'fortress' hasn't happened without plenty of inside information and support.

The vice-president may pay lip service but I'd be very surprised if some kind of deal hasn't been done behind the scenes to give contracts and control of at least some of the reserves to American companies. The guards probably had a convenient 'emergency' to attend to.
 
He may not get the total control he's hoping for but he'll get plenty. An operation of this scale - breaking into the presidential palace and kidnapping the head of state from what Trump himself called a 'fortress' hasn't happened without plenty of inside information and support.

The vice-president may pay lip service but I'd be very surprised if some kind of deal hasn't been done behind the scenes to give contracts and control of at least some of the reserves to American companies. The guards probably had a convenient 'emergency' to attend to.

It would be political suicide for the socialist party , they may as well pack up as the people will lose all faith . The US would need to make a substantial deal with them all but won’t be trusted . To stop an all out war and destruction they may fold but unlikely.

US cannot go to war with Iran in case the global oil price skyrockets, while they have the lowest reserves of heavy crude. So they have decided to lay the groundwork for a complete takeover of Venezuelan heavy crude if the need arises . The US has multiple refineries on the gulf coast waiting and dry Iran is a different beast
 
It would be political suicide for the socialist party , they may as well pack up as the people will lose all faith . The US would need to make a substantial deal with them all but won’t be trusted . To stop an all out war and destruction they may fold but unlikely.

US cannot go to war with Iran in case the global oil price skyrockets, while they have the lowest reserves of heavy crude. So they have decided to lay the groundwork for a complete takeover of Venezuelan heavy crude if the need arises . The US has multiple refineries on the gulf coast waiting and dry Iran is a different beast
What political suicide? Maduro and Chavez before him have long crushed the Venezuelans into submission.

I'm betting we won't end 2026 without a bunch of Venezuelan development and refinery modernization contracts being awarded to mysterious sounding companies with offices in the Cayman Islands.

What'll happen long term is impossible for anyone to say but in the short term - Trump, his cronies and some folks at the top in Venezuela will make a lot of money.

Hopefully the public benefits a bit too. The Saudi royal family have shown it's possible to get insanely rich and yet keep the public in line through handouts.
 
What political suicide? Maduro and Chavez before him have long crushed the Venezuelans into submission.

I'm betting we won't end 2026 without a bunch of Venezuelan development and refinery modernization contracts being awarded to mysterious sounding companies with offices in the Cayman Islands.

What'll happen long term is impossible for anyone to say but in the short term - Trump, his cronies and some folks at the top in Venezuela will make a lot of money.

Hopefully the public benefits a bit too. The Saudi royal family have shown it's possible to get insanely rich and yet keep the public in line through handouts.

Majority of Venezuelans support Chavez. You’ve been reading too much dr evil comics . Let’s see how much oil they take out, so far it’s a kidnapping nothing more .
 
To believe this is about drug smuggling, you have to ignore Trump's pardon of the former Honduran president for drug smuggling.

To believe it's about Maduro's democratic legitimacy, you have to believe Trump cares even slightly about democratic legitimacy.

Shame on the users who trumpet the Western mantra "Dictators are bad democracy is good"

Go read up on gow the UK and USA governments overthrew a democractilly elected President of Iran in the 50s. The Shah was installed as a puppet of regime change, the Iranians overthrow the Shah. Then you puppets wonder why Iran despises Amreeka.

Address the elephant in the room - Zionists are pulling the strings. They did so in the 50s, and are doing so now, using the Epstein files as leverage against Western leaders, Trump.
 
Innit.

I cant believe we still have people who believe the Western media mouth piece especially given the litany of regine changes by the West!

The west have been involved in 3 attempts to kill or capture world leaders in a week . Traore was targeted last night , Putin a few days ago . Iran is to follow again . People will wake up when the chickens come home to roost
 
He may not get the total control he's hoping for but he'll get plenty. An operation of this scale - breaking into the presidential palace and kidnapping the head of state from what Trump himself called a 'fortress' hasn't happened without plenty of inside information and support.

The vice-president may pay lip service but I'd be very surprised if some kind of deal hasn't been done behind the scenes to give contracts and control of at least some of the reserves to American companies. The guards probably had a convenient 'emergency' to attend to.

Do you think foreign govts launching unilateral regime change in another country is justified?
 
He may not get the total control he's hoping for but he'll get plenty. An operation of this scale - breaking into the presidential palace and kidnapping the head of state from what Trump himself called a 'fortress' hasn't happened without plenty of inside information and support.

The vice-president may pay lip service but I'd be very surprised if some kind of deal hasn't been done behind the scenes to give contracts and control of at least some of the reserves to American companies. The guards probably had a convenient 'emergency' to attend to.
This. Not possible without inside collusion.
Trump has thrown everyone under the bus including Nato partners, they don't know what to say or do. Greenland next?

I would be very concerned now if I was Zelensky, the precedent is now set for Russia.
 
Do you think foreign govts launching unilateral regime change in another country is justified?
No except in extreme cases. Countries need to deal with the problems on their own.

I'd make 2 exceptions
- If they start acting on their threats to other countries...Saddam invading Kuwait is an example
- If they start getting genocidal towards sections of their citizens. Now the definition of genocides differ for different folks but for me, we'd have to be talking deaths in the hundreds of thousands for interventions to be justified.

Neither of these applied in Maduro/Venezuela's case.

The problem of course is that we now have a world where there's a set of rules for the US and another for everyone else. We have to be pragmatic and figure out both of these sets of rules.
 
Majority of Venezuelans support Chavez. You’ve been reading too much dr evil comics . Let’s see how much oil they take out, so far it’s a kidnapping nothing more .
That is naive. Next you'll be telling me a majority of the Pakistani population supports Munir and that Shahbaz Sharif won a fair election because there aren't riots on the streets of Lahore.
 
We are seeing breakdown of world order in real time. Now if you are half decent rich nation, acquiring hypersonic and nuclear weapons has to be your top priority now.
 
Whether we examine the pre-1945 League of Nations or the post-1945 UN world order, the language of international law has often been shot through with hypocrisy. Legal norms have consistently remained subordinate to the raw calculus of power. Usually, it is the interests of Great Powers, not the idealistic applications of justice, that dictate outcomes.

As historian Mark Mazower once observed, international law in the nineteenth century 'had been proclaimed as a creed of universal applicability.' Instead, it became a 'vocabulary of permissions, a means of asserting power and control that normalizes the debatable and justifies the exception.’

Yet, historically, even the most cynical Great Powers maintained a veneer of legality, 'routinely preach[ing] the virtues of law' even while 'exempting themselves from many of its constraints.' The Trump administration’s recent military strike and extraction of Maduro dispenses with even this legal pretence. It doesn’t even bother with the 'vocabulary of permissions'.

By bypassing the UN and violating the core sovereignty of a nation, this act strips away the mask of an international rules-based order. It is no longer just power politics dressed up as law. It is the naked law of the jungle.
 
NATO turned a blind eye on the genocide of Bosnians in the 90s. Where was the government out cry? There was none. NATO is the the equivalent of Hitler's SS. Designed to do the dirty job under the guise of 'freedom'.
 
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