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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In light of the attack from the Invisible Enemy, as well as the need to protect the jobs of our GREAT American Citizens, I will be signing an Executive Order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States!</p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1252418369170501639?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



Few details on Trump immigration ban

US President Donald Trump has not given any more details beyond his earlier tweet that he will suspend immigration. He attributed the decision to both the fight against the virus and the protection of US jobs, but it's not clear what exactly the move will mean or when it will come into force.

The US has already agreed with both Canada and Mexico to extend border restrictions on non-essential travel until at least mid-May. Travel is also sharply restricted from Europe and China, though people with temporary work visas, students and business travellers are exempted.

On Monday, the US said it would continue to expel migrants it encounters along the border with Mexico for at least another month.

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President Donald Trump has said he will sign an executive order to temporarily suspend all immigration to the US because of the coronavirus.

On Twitter, he cited "the attack from the invisible enemy", as he calls the virus, and the need to protect the jobs of Americans, but did not give details.

It was not clear what programmes might be affected and whether the president would be able to carry out the order.

Critics say the government is using the pandemic to crack down on immigration.

Mr Trump's announcement late on Monday comes as the White House argues the worst of the pandemic is over and the country can begin reopening. The restrictions on people's movement, implemented by many states to curb the spread of the virus, have paralysed parts of the economy.

Over the last four weeks, more than 20 million Americans have made jobless claims. That amounts to roughly as many jobs as employers had added over the previous decade.

The US has over 787,000 confirmed cases of Covid-19 and more than 42,000 deaths, according to a tally by Johns Hopkins University, which is tracking the pandemic globally.

It was not immediately clear who could be affected by Mr Trump's decision, and the White House has not commented. Last month, the US suspended almost all visa processing, including for immigrants, because of the pandemic.

The US has already agreed with both Canada and Mexico to extend border restrictions on non-essential travel until at least mid-May.

Travel has also been sharply restricted from hard-hit European countries and China, though people with temporary work visas, students and business travellers are exempted.

In recent weeks, emergency powers have been used to expel thousands of undocumented migrants on the US border with Mexico. The public health measure lets officials override immigration laws, expediting removal processes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52363852
 
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I have a feeling Trump wanted to do this for a long time. COVID-19 gave him the license.
 
Seems to me like a vehicle to push his general anti-immigration stance - the way he wrote the tweet implies coronavirus and "protecting jobs" are 2 different but equal reasons to close the border.
 
Trump’s immigration ban stokes divisions

President Donald Trump's announced on Twitter late on Monday night that he would temporarily suspend all immigration to the US has been met with passionate responses both by those who agree with the move and those who oppose it.

Trump said the move was necessary to protect American jobs and defend the country from coronavirus but gave few further details of what it might entail.

But whatever form it takes, the controversial ban is virtually guaranteed to divide opinion.

Joe Biden, the presumptive presidential candidate for the Democrats, reprimanded Trump in a tweet, apparently in response to the ban.

“The President needs to stop blaming others and do his job,”he tweeted.

Other Democrats were more explicit in their criticism. California Senator Kamala Harris, for example, said Trump was using the outbreak to push his anti-immigrant stance.

Ali Noorani, the executive director of the National Immigration Forum, echoed that sentiment, accusing Trump of seeing immigrants as “the easiest to blame”.


In contrast, Republicans cheered the move. Arizona Congressman Paul Gosar said immigration should be halted until “every American who wants a job has one”.

Matt Mowers, an adviser to the US State Department, said he supported the ban “because we need to put America’s interests first as we begin our economic comeback”.
 
Little too late but spot on from Trump.

Controlling borders is the number 1 step to controlling this virus. The lefties can cry all they want but this is a fact. These same lefties blame their governments on acting too late on shutting down flights.
 
Given how horrendous Trump's poll numbers are right now , this is a brute strategy that will make him win re-election.. coz I suspect most americans want to keep the US demographically european even though they won't say it out loudly.
 
Given how horrendous Trump's poll numbers are right now , this is a brute strategy that will make him win re-election.. coz I suspect most americans want to keep the US demographically european even though they won't say it out loudly.

This is exactly it lol.

When they say we’re losing America what do they mean? Obv that they’re losing white majority america since the 1960s the demographic change has been Asians and
Hispanics
 
United States President Donald Trump caused confusion and anger after saying in a late-night Monday tweet that he will "temporarily suspend immigration" due to the coronavirus pandemic.

Referring to the coronavirus, or "the Invisible Enemy", as well as "the need to protect the jobs of our GREAT American Citizens", Trump tweeted that he will "be signing an Executive Order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States!"

The president offered no other details.

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany issued a statement on Tuesday echoing Trump's past comments about immigration. She provided no details on what the executive order would entail.

"At a time when Americans are looking to get back to work, action is necessary," she said.

National security adviser Robert O'Brien earlier on Tuesday cast the president's announcement as a move to protect the American people's health. O'Brien said the temporary immigration halt would not be "dissimilar" to limits on travel to the US from China that Trump put in place in January.

The Wall Street Journal, citing unnamed administration officials, said the order would likely not include any substantial changes to policy measures already in place. The newspaper said Trump's order is expected to include some exceptions, including for migrant farmworkers and healthcare workers.

The US has already effectively halted most immigration. Due to the pandemic, almost all visa processing by the State Department, including immigrant visas, has been suspended for weeks. The department has also suspended the refugee programme, and is turning back all undocumented migrants and asylum seekers who attempt to cross the border between official ports of entry.

Trump has taken credit for his restrictions on travel to the US from China and hard-hit European countries, arguing the restrictions contributed to slowing the spread of the virus in the US. But he has not extended those restrictions to other nations now experiencing virus outbreaks. It is also unclear what effect those restrictions have had, with critics pointing out that the curbs had exemptions that allowed travel from those effected countries to continue for some.

'Scapegoating'
Democrats, immigration lawyers and advocates immediately slammed Trump's Monday announcement, saying his proposed executive order amounts to "xenophobic scapegoating".

"From the beginning Trump has flailed about seeking someone to blame for his own failure. Obama. Governors. China. Speaker Pelosi. People of Asian descent," tweeted Virginia Democrat Don Beyer.

"Immigration has nearly stopped and the US has far more cases than any other country," he said. "This is just xenophobic scapegoating."

From the beginning Trump has flailed about seeking someone to blame for his own failure.

Obama. Governors. China. Speaker Pelosi. People of Asian descent.

Immigration has nearly stopped and the US has far more cases than any other country.

American Gateways, a Texas-based immigration rights organisation, said stopping immigration to the US "is xenophobic and ignorant and is being used to scapegoat immigrants".

"Policies to lessen the impacts of the COVID-19 in the US should be based in science and public health, and not used to scapegoat an entire group," Rebecca Lightsey, executive director of American Gateways, said in a statement.

Immigration lawyer Charles Kuck said on Twitter that he had received calls and emails from several clients "trying to figure out if their wife, husband, mom, dad, doctor, nurse, accountant, farmworker, etc are going to be barred from coming into the US while Trump remains President".

'A distraction'

Trump's move effectively achieves a long-term Trump policy goal to curb immigration, making use of the health and economic crisis that has swept the country as a result of the pandemic to do so.

Trump, elected in 2016 in part on his vow to stamp out irregular immigration, had staked his re-election in November on the strength of a US economy now sapped by the economic shutdown to stop the pandemic. He has since been pressing for states to begin easing restrictions that have left a record 22 million people seeking unemployment benefits.

“It makes sense to protect opportunities for our workforce while this pandemic plays out,” said Thomas Homan, Trump’s former acting director of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement. “It’s really not about immigration. It’s about the pandemic and keeping our country safer while protecting opportunities for unemployed Americans.”

But others online accused Trump of distracting from what they call the failures of the US response to the coronavirus. Trump was accused of initially downplaying the gravity of the virus and the US faced testing complications.

The US has by far the world's largest number of confirmed coronavirus cases, with more than 42,000 deaths and 788,000 infections as of Monday.

"[Trump] is trying to distract from 42,500 Americans dead and counting! Don't fall for it!" tweeted activist Amy Siskind.

Trump’s shiny coins to distract from coronavirus mishandling:

He is trying to distract from 42,500 Americans dead and counting! Don’t fall for it!

"Our nation faces an extraordinary health crisis at this time," the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) tweeted. "Xenophobia and racism are not the answer."

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...-ban-immigration-slammed-200421165115044.html
 
Given how horrendous Trump's poll numbers are right now , this is a brute strategy that will make him win re-election.. coz I suspect most americans want to keep the US demographically european even though they won't say it out loudly.
agreed 100 percent. he does nor care about jobs or corona. this move will help him in elections. his poll numbers are down and this will rally his base
 
if it was doe with the right intentions i would agree with closed borders for now. but this is done to rally his base. and he will ride this till nov
 
if it was doe with the right intentions i would agree with closed borders for now. but this is done to rally his base. and he will ride this till nov

he just said in his press conference that it applies only to permanent residency or greencard application and not temporary visas. This is an absolute joke from Trump because the H1B is responsible for taking US jobs, not greencards and he excluded them.
 
if it was doe with the right intentions i would agree with closed borders for now. but this is done to rally his base. and he will ride this till nov

his base will be happy that there is a ban not understanding that this will not really help the job market if greencard applications are paused.
 
Trump says immigration measure will be in effect for 60 days, will be evaluated afterward

U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday he will be issuing a temporary suspension of immigration into the United States and the measure will be in effect for 60 days and then be re-evaluated.

The Republican president said his administration will be examining additional immigration-related measures “to protect American workers.”

“As we move forward we will become more and more protective of them,” Trump said at the daily coronavirus news briefing. “This pause on new immigration will also help to conserve vital medical resources for American citizens.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ays-will-be-evaluated-afterward-idUSKCN2233BH
 
Trump is well within his rights to stop immigration for a certain period of time to protect his own country.
Ofcourse everybody knows mutual benefits of immigration and no point in keep discussing that in this situation.
There are 22 million unemployed force in usa right now and it’s very fair to expect them to get the jobs first.
And to those who have not read the matter properly, it’s only for those seeking green card or permanent residency.
 
he just said in his press conference that it applies only to permanent residency or greencard application and not temporary visas. This is an absolute joke from Trump because the H1B is responsible for taking US jobs, not greencards and he excluded them.

I chuckled seeing how clueless his supporters were , they have no idea what visa allows workers to work in jobs, except diversity visa no one effin comes to states with a GC to work lol.
 
When i saw his tweet yesterday I assumed L1, H1B is what he would be banning for a while to come into states but he has put a stay on GC.. and i checked how in fox comments people are bragging him to be the greatest President :)))

I wonder if his team doesn’t know about it and they will look into it and change but for now rofl at his supporters with a shine in their eyes
 
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When i saw his tweet yesterday I assumed L1, H1B is what he would be banning for a while to come into states but he has put a stay on GC.. and i checked how in fox comments people are bragging him to be the greatest President :)))

I wonder if his team doesn’t know about it and they will look into it and change but for now rofl at his supporters with a shine in their eyes

It’s obviously a Hail Mary to his supporters to get back the base which is not happy with the current situation and he’s hoping that this sticks.
 
Exactly. His supporters are going nuts, i bet they don’t even know what h1b is. :)) Most People who are seeking GC are already in the US legally working here. His halt would basically have zero impact.
 
His team most likely knows about it. Tech firm lobby is very strong in the US and they want H1Bs. I am sure they blocked it.
 
President Donald Trump has said he will halt applications of foreign nationals seeking permanent residence in the US because of the coronavirus crisis.

A day after he announced the move in an ambiguous tweet, Mr Trump said the measure would protect American jobs.

It is not clear how effective it will be as most visa services have already been suspended because of the outbreak.

Critics say he is trying to distract attention away from his response to the virus. The US has nearly 45,000 deaths.

Democrats also accuse the administration of using the pandemic to crack down on immigration. The issue has traditionally been a strong campaigning theme for Mr Trump, a Republican, but has taken a back seat during the crisis and in the lead-up to the November election.

At a White House coronavirus briefing, Mr Trump said the executive order with the decision was likely to be signed on Wednesday. The ban could be extended "much longer" depending on how the economy was doing, he said.

After vowing to suspend "all immigration" to the US on Monday night, Mr Trump apparently changed his original plan after a backlash from some business leaders. It would reportedly impact immigrants given temporary working visas, like farm labourers and hi-tech employees.

What did President Trump say?

More than 20 million Americans have lost their jobs amid the coronavirus outbreak, and the president said the government had a "solemn duty" to ensure they regain their jobs.

"It would be wrong and unjust for Americans laid off by the virus to be replaced with new immigrant labour flown in from abroad," he said, adding that there could be some exemptions to the measure.

Media caption"We first must take care of the American worker," says President Trump
"We want to protect our US workers and I think as we move forward we will become more and more protective of them".

Mr Trump's order could spark legal challenges.

The US has the highest number of confirmed cases of coronavirus in the world - more than 820,000 - according to Johns Hopkins University, which is tracking the disease globally.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52377122
 
Trump needs to be on the BBC Hardtalk. There he can answers the logical reasons behind his presidential orders.
 
'Xenophobic scapegoating': Trump plan to ban immigration slammed

United States President Donald Trump caused confusion and anger after saying in a late-night Monday tweet that he will "temporarily suspend immigration" due to the coronavirus pandemic.

Referring to the coronavirus, or "the Invisible Enemy", as well as "the need to protect the jobs of our GREAT American Citizens", Trump tweeted that he will "be signing an Executive Order to temporarily suspend immigration into the United States!"

The president offered no other details at the time.

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany issued a statement on Tuesday morning echoing Trump's past comments about immigration.

"At a time when Americans are looking to get back to work, action is necessary," she said.

Later on Tuesday, Trump confirmed the order would last 60 days and apply narrowly to those seeking permanent immigration status. He said there would be exemptions, but did not elaborate.

Trump added that other actions were being considered, but he remained focused on the initial order, which he said he would "probably" sign on Wednesday.

The US has already effectively halted most immigration. Due to the pandemic, almost all visa processing by the State Department, including immigrant visas, has been suspended for weeks. The US has also suspended the refugee programme, and is turning back all undocumented migrants and asylum seekers who attempt to cross the border between official ports of entry.

Trump has taken credit for his restrictions on travel to the US from China and hard-hit European countries, arguing the restrictions contributed to slowing the spread of the virus in the US. But he has not extended those restrictions to other nations now experiencing virus outbreaks. It is also unclear what effect those restrictions have had, with critics pointing out that the curbs had exemptions that allowed travel from those effected countries to continue for some.

'Scapegoating'
Democrats, immigration lawyers and advocates immediately slammed Trump's Monday announcement, saying his proposed executive order amounts to "xenophobic scapegoating".

"From the beginning Trump has flailed about seeking someone to blame for his own failure. Obama. Governors. China. Speaker Pelosi. People of Asian descent," tweeted Virginia Democrat Don Beyer before details began to emerge about the proposed ban.

"Immigration has nearly stopped and the US has far more cases than any other country," he said. "This is just xenophobic scapegoating."

American Gateways, a Texas-based immigration rights organisation, said stopping immigration to the US "is xenophobic and ignorant and is being used to scapegoat immigrants".

"Policies to lessen the impacts of the COVID-19 in the US should be based in science and public health, and not used to scapegoat an entire group," Rebecca Lightsey, executive director of American Gateways, said in a statement.

Immigration lawyer Charles Kuck said on Twitter that he had received calls and emails from several clients "trying to figure out if their wife, husband, mom, dad, doctor, nurse, accountant, farmworker, etc are going to be barred from coming into the US while Trump remains President".

'A distraction'
Critics say Trump's expected move effectively achieves a long-term Trump policy goal to curb immigration, making use of the health and economic crisis that has swept the country as a result of the pandemic to do so.

Trump, elected in 2016 in part on his vow to stamp out irregular immigration, had staked his re-election in November on the strength of a US economy now sapped by the economic shutdown to stop the pandemic. He has since been pressing for states to begin easing restrictions that have left a record 22 million people seeking unemployment benefits.

“It makes sense to protect opportunities for our workforce while this pandemic plays out,” said Thomas Homan, Trump’s former acting director of US Immigration and Customs Enforcement. “It’s really not about immigration. It’s about the pandemic and keeping our country safer while protecting opportunities for unemployed Americans.”

But others online accused Trump of distracting from what they call the failures of the US response to the coronavirus. Trump was accused of initially downplaying the gravity of the virus and the US faced testing complications.

The US has by far the world's largest number of confirmed coronavirus cases, with more than 43,900 deaths and 816,000 infections as of Monday.

"[Trump] is trying to distract from 42,500 Americans dead and counting! Don't fall for it!" activist Amy Siskind tweeted early on Tuesday.

Trump's proposed executive order will likely face legal challenges.

"Our nation faces an extraordinary health crisis at this time," the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) tweeted. "Xenophobia and racism are not the answer."
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...-ban-immigration-slammed-200421165115044.html
 
President Trump says he’s stopping applications by foreigners for permanent residence in the US for 60 days because of the impact of the coronavirus. “It would be wrong and unjust for Americans laid off by the virus to be replaced with new immigrant labour flown in from abroad,” he said.

So what do the figures show about who’s coming to the US to live and work? US government data (up to 2018) shows that in nearly every year over the previous decade, more than a million people were given permanent residence (the so-called green card.)

But there are bigger numbers of foreigners given temporary admission each year for employment. In 2018, there were nearly four million workers and their families allowed in to the US on these temporary visas, with more than one million of these coming from Canada. There were also significant numbers from Mexico and India. However, President Trump’s latest move to curb immigration does not cover these. He apparently decided not to include them after a backlash from some business leaders, who feared it would impact farm workers and hi-tech employees.

It’s also unclear how much difference the move will make since many visa services had already been suspended because of the virus outbreak. And it’s worth putting the immigration numbers in the wider context of US unemployment figures – by mid-April, there had been more than 20 million jobless claims over the previous month.
 
Given how horrendous Trump's poll numbers are right now , this is a brute strategy that will make him win re-election.. coz I suspect most americans want to keep the US demographically european even though they won't say it out loudly.

Whats the poll numbers now, they move up and down, but just a month ago they were at an all time high for trump.
 
US President Donald Trump has signed an executive order to temporarily suspend the approval of some green cards.

The measure, which contains a number of exemptions, is to last for 60 days and then could be extended, he said.

Mr Trump says the order is designed to protect American workers' jobs in an economy pummelled by the coronavirus.

Critics have accused him of using the pandemic as cover to ram through long-sought hardline immigration policies in an election year.

"This will ensure that unemployed Americans of all backgrounds will be first in line for jobs as our economy reopens," Mr Trump said during Wednesday's coronavirus briefing at the White House.

The measure is expected to stop the practice of green card holders sponsoring their extended families for permanent US residency, which the president calls chain migration.

But it makes an exception for American citizens' spouses and unmarried children under the age of 21.

The order also suspends the Diversity Visa Lottery, which issues about 50,000 green cards annually.

Also exempt are the hundreds of thousands of green card applicants already living and working in the US, and those seeking entry to work as doctors, nurses or other healthcare professionals.

Another exception is the hundreds of thousands of temporary guest visas issued each year to such applicants as farm labourers and skilled workers in the H-1B visa programme.

What will be the impact?

The pandemic has blunted the immediate effect of the order because almost all visa processing by the state department has been halted for weeks with consulates closed.

Nevertheless, according to the the Washington-based Migration Policy Institute, Mr Trump's order could block more than 20,000 applicants per month from obtaining a green card.

Omar Jadwat, director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Immigrants' Rights Project, said the policy "will cause real pain for families and employers across the country".

The president's move is likely to face legal challenges.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52391678
 
Little too late but spot on from Trump.

Controlling borders is the number 1 step to controlling this virus. The lefties can cry all they want but this is a fact. These same lefties blame their governments on acting too late on shutting down flights.

I'm not a fan of Trump but he is right with this one. I wish the European leaders showed this kind of spine on immigration.
 
For Indian Diaspora, Panic and Anger Over Trump’s Immigration Plans

NEW DELHI — When President Trump announced via a late-night tweet that he would “suspend immigration” to protect American jobs from an economic tailspin caused by the coronavirus, Priyanka Nagar prepared for the worst.

For more than a decade, Ms. Nagar, an Indian citizen, had steadily built a life in the United States but she was now back in India, awaiting a visa extension. She and her husband, who works for Microsoft, have applied for green cards. They hung an American flag from their balcony in their home in Washington State, where Ms. Nagar had given birth to the couple’s 5-year-old daughter.

But when Ms. Nagar read Mr. Trump’s tweet posted late Monday, while separated from her family in the United States, the thought of leaving her hard forged life behind without even a goodbye was devastating, she said.

“I beg the government not to think of us as enemies,” Ms. Nagar, 39, a software developer, said. “I want the U.S. to prosper. It has given us so much.”

By Tuesday, Mr. Trump had ordered a 60-day halt in issuing green cards to prevent people from immigrating to the United States, backing away from his harder-edged plans to suspend guest worker programs after business groups erupted in anger at the prospect of losing labor from countries like India.

But as millions of Americans file for unemployment, flooding food banks and hospitals, foreign workers worry that the pandemic will uproot them sooner rather than later.

Immigrant groups warn that driven by what they call the Trump administration’s protectionist impulses, the United States could purge some of its most talented workers, cutting into the vibrant multiculturalism that has made the United States such an attractive destination for decades.

“I cannot tell you the panic this has caused in the legal immigration community,” Nandini Nair, an immigration lawyer based in New Jersey, said of Mr. Trump’s “upending of life by a tweet.”

Further immigration restrictions could have particularly acute consequences for India, which sends thousands of highly skilled workers to the United States every year and counts a four million strong diaspora in the country, representing one of the largest contingents of immigrants to the United States.

Visa programs like H-1B help fill specialty positions at companies like Google, Apple and Facebook. Indian-Americans are some of the country’s most successful and wealthiest immigrants, with a particular stronghold in Silicon Valley’s start-up scene.

These days, Harkamal Singh Khural, 34, a software developer living in an Atlanta suburb, said he was barely sleeping. Even if the government did not push him out, he said a volatile job market meant his immigration status was already tenuous.

The company that sponsors his H-1B visa has already let go of half of his team. His two daughters are United States citizens, meaning it was possible that his family could get separated.

“I am afraid of losing everything,” Mr. Khural said. “This is not really about a job. It is about dreams.”

For now, programs like H-1B are unlikely to be immediately affected by the new restrictions. But on Tuesday, Mr. Trump left open the possibility of extending the ban on new green cards “based on economic conditions at the time.”

He suggested that he may also introduce a second executive order that could further restrict immigration, brushing aside studies showing that a flow of foreign labor into the country has an overall positive effect on the American work force and wages.

“We must first take care of the American worker,” President Trump said, insisting that newly jobless citizens should not have to compete with foreigners when the economy reopens.

Rights groups say the immigration process has become increasingly complex and frustrating in recent years, with Mr. Trump fanning the flames of anti-immigrant sentiment by pushing for an extensive wall along the Mexican border and labeling a group of African nations “******** countries.”

For Indian citizens, building a more permanent base in the country was never easy.

Most of the 800,000 immigrants currently waiting for a green card are Indian citizens. Because of quotas that limit the number of workers from each country, Indians can expect to wait up to 50 years for a green card since their representation among immigrants is so high in the United States.

Last summer, the Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act, which sought to address the backlog by eliminating country quotas, sailed through the House. But it stalled in the Senate, where critics like Senator Dick Durbin, Democrat of Illinois, argued that the bill would not solve the problem because it does not increase the overall number of green cards.

Many Indian citizens said the back-and-forth was exhausting.

“I likely won’t receive a green card in this lifetime unless the laws change,” said Somak Goswami, an electrical engineer who applied for a green card in 2011. “I have colleagues who came to the U.S. in 2017 and have a green card already. My only fault was I was born in India.”

Analysts said immigration restrictions could strain the delicate but increasingly amicable relationship between India and the United States, the world’s most populous democracies.

In recent months, Mr. Trump and Prime Minister Narendra Modi of India have sought to build an even stronger alliance, trading compliments about each other onstage at glittering events in Houston and Ahmedabad, India.

Milan Vaishnav, the director of the South Asia Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington, said, “Any action that appears to infringe on the mobility of Indians or Indian-Americans will be strongly resisted.”

“Suffice it to say, this will not go over well in India,” he said of stricter immigration controls. “Prime Minister Modi has made outreach to the diaspora community in America and elsewhere a cornerstone of his foreign policy.”

In India, Ms. Nagar, who is staying with her parents in the state of Uttar Pradesh, said she was trying to remain hopeful, telling herself to “live today and wait for tomorrow.”

But with international airspace largely closed, embassies shut for visa processing and the added stress of immigration restrictions, Ms. Nagar worried that the extension of her H-1B visa might be delayed by many more months, prolonging the separation from her family and raising the possibility that they may have to leave the United States entirely.

Over a video call, Ms. Nagar’s daughter, a kindergarten student, told her: “Mommy, when the virus dies, you’ll come. I’ll wait for the virus to die.” When video conversations with her daughter end, Ms. Nagar said she sometimes lies in bed and cries.

“In the U.S., you have the whole world working together toward a common goal,” she said. “You cannot find that diversity anywhere else. I love this country.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/...coronavirus.html?referringSource=articleShare
 
Time for these entitled bunch to go back to the countries they came from. They can cry xenophobia and racism from there.
 
Trump says his administration is talking to Republican senators about work visa issue

President Donald Trump said on Thursday his administration is talking to Republican senators about work visa issues, amid the coronavirus outbreak that has wreaked havoc on the U.S. economy.

Four Republican senators sent a letter earlier in the day urging Trump to suspend all new guest worker visas for 60 days and certain categories of new guest work visas for at least a year, until unemployment returns to normal levels.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-senators-about-work-visa-issue-idUSKBN22J379
 
Washington: A bipartisan group of lawmakers introduced a legislation in both the chambers of the US Congress proposing major reforms in skilled non-immigrant visa programmes by giving priority to US-educated foreign technology professionals in issuing H-1B work visas.
The H-1B and L-1 Visa Reform Act, as introduced in House of Representatives and Senate, will require US Citizenship and Immigration Services to prioritize for the first time the annual allocation of H-1B visas.

The new system would ensure that the best and brightest students being educated in the United States receive preference for an H-1B visa, including advanced degree holders, those being paid a high wage, and those with valuable skills, proponents of this major legislative reforms said Friday.

In the Senate, it was introduced by Senators Chuck Grassley and Dick Durbin. In the House of Representatives, it was introduced by Congressmen Bill Pascrell, Paul Gosar, Ro Khanna, Frank Pallone and Lance Gooden.

The legislation reinstates Congress's original intent in the H-1B and L-1 visa programmes by increasing enforcement, modifying wage requirements and securing protections for both American workers and visa holders, the lawmakers said.

The legislation, among other things, explicitly prohibits the replacement of American workers by H-1B or L-1 visa holders, clarifying that working conditions of similarly employed American workers may not be adversely affected by the hiring of an H-1B worker, including H-1B workers who have been placed by another employer at the American worker's worksite.

These provisions address the types of abuses that have been well-documented.

Importantly, the legislation proposes increased crackdown on outsourcing companies that import large numbers of H-1B and L-1 workers for temporary training purposes only to send the workers back to their home countries to do the same job.

Specifically, the bill would prohibit companies with more than 50 employees, of which at least half are H-1B or L-1 holders, from hiring additional H-1B employees.

The bill gives the US Department of Labor enhanced authority to review, investigate, and audit employer compliance with programme requirements, as well as to penalise fraudulent or abusive conduct. It requires the production of extensive statistical data about the H-1B and L-1 programs, including wage data, worker education levels, place of employment, and gender.

In addition, the H-1B and L-1 Visa Reform Act encompasses several reforms of the L-1 visa programme, including establishment of a wage floor for L-1 workers; authority for the US Department of Homeland Security to investigate, audit, and enforce compliance with L-1 program requirements; assurance that intra-company transfers occur between legitimate branches of a company and don''t involve "shell" facilities; and a change to the definition of "specialized knowledge" to ensure that L-1 visas are reserved only for truly key personnel.

Asserting that Congress created these programmes to complement America's high-skilled workforce, not replace it, Mr Grassley said that unfortunately, some companies are trying to exploit the programmes by cutting American workers for cheaper labour.

"We need programmes dedicated to putting American workers first. When skilled foreign workers are needed to meet the demands of our labour market, we must also ensure that visa applicants who honed their skills at American colleges and universities are a priority over the importation of more foreign workers. Our bill takes steps to ensure that the programs work for Americans and skilled foreign workers alike," he said.

Reforming the H-1B and L-1 visa programmes is a critical component of fixing the broken immigration system. For years, outsourcing companies have used loopholes in the laws to displace qualified American workers and facilitate the outsourcing of American jobs, Mr Durbin said.

This legislation would end these abuses and protect American and foreign workers from exploitation, Mr Durbin said.

Indian American Congressman Ro Khanna said that American immigrants come to this country with some of the most innovative, transformative ideas this world has ever seen.

"If we''re going to continue to foster a culture of creativity, we must reform the H-1 and L-1 visa programmes to protect all workers from abuses. Immigrants coming here on H-1B visas have made important contributions to Silicon Valley''s leadership in the digital revolution. We want to make sure that talent is coming to the US, but we also want to make sure that it''s being done with proper compensation," Mr Khanna said.

Congressman Pallone said that the US must ensure that qualified American workers have access to job opportunities in this country.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/h-1...ucated-foreigners-2233747?pfrom=home-bigstory
 
The US Supreme Court has dealt a major blow to Donald Trump's hardline immigration policies by ruling against his effort to end protection from deportation for hundreds of thousands of people.

Justices voted 5-4 to uphold lower court rulings that found the president's 2017 move to rescind the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) programme was unlawful.

The decision is likely to elevate the issue in campaigning ahead of the presidential election in November.

Chief Justice John Roberts joined the court's four liberals in finding that the administration's actions were "arbitrary and capricious" under a federal law called the Administrative Procedure Act.

It means that the roughly 649,000 immigrants, mostly young Hispanic adults born in Mexico and other Latin American countries, currently enrolled in DACA will remain protected from deportation.

They will also be eligible to obtain renewable two-year work permits.

Chief Justice Roberts wrote: "We do not decide whether DACA or its rescission are sound policies.

"We address only whether the agency complied with the procedural requirement that it provide a reasoned explanation for its action.

"Here the agency failed to consider the conspicuous issues of whether to retain forbearance and what if anything to do about the hardship to DACA recipients."

The court's four conservative justices dissented. Justice Clarence Thomas, in a dissent joined by Justices Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch, argued that DACA was illegal from the moment it was created.

In a separate dissent, Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote that he was satisfied the administration acted appropriately in trying to end the programme.

DACA recipients including Cesar Espinosa said they were elated by the ruling.

"We'll keep living our lives in the meantime," said Mr Espinosa, who leads the Houston immigration advocacy group FIEL.

"We're going to continue to work, continue to advocate."

He said he got little sleep overnight in anticipation of the possible decision.

He said that within moments of the ruling his group had been "flooded with calls with Dreamers, happy, with that hope that they're going to at least be in this country for a while longer".

Mr Trump reacted angrily to the decision, saying: "These horrible & politically charged decisions coming out of the Supreme Court are shotgun blasts into the face of people that are proud to call themselves Republicans or Conservatives."

He went on to repeat his argument that the Supreme Court should be expanded to include more justices and claim that a failure to do so would mean "we will lose our 2nd. Amendment & everything else".

But he ruling was welcomed by Mr Obama, who said on Twitter: "Eight years ago this week, we protected young people who were raised as part of our American family from deportation.

"Today, I'm happy for them, their families, and all of us. We may look different and come from everywhere, but what makes us American are our shared ideals.

"And now to stand up for those ideals, we have to move forward and elect Joe Biden and a Democratic Congress that does its job, protects DREAMers, and finally creates a system that's truly worthy of this nation of immigrants once and for all."

While the ruling does not prevent the president from trying again to end the scheme, his administration is unlikely to be able to do so before the 3 November election in which he is seeking a second four-year term in office.

He has repeatedly taken a hardline approach to immigration throughout his first term. In April, he vowed to "temporarily suspend immigration" into the US due to the coronavirus pandemic.

https://news.sky.com/story/us-supre...-easier-to-deport-dreamer-immigrants-12009744
 
US President Donald Trump has extended a pause on some green cards and suspended visas for other foreign workers until the end of 2020.

High-skilled tech workers, non-agricultural seasonal helpers, au pairs and top executives will be affected.

The White House said the move will create jobs for Americans hurting economically due to the pandemic.

But critics say the White House is exploiting the coronavirus pandemic to tighten up immigration laws.

In a briefing for reporters, the administration said the freeze, in place through the end of the year, would impact about 525,000 people.

That includes an estimated 170,000 people blocked by the decision to extend a ban on some new green cards - which grants permanent residence to foreigners. The White House first announced it was halting those visas in April, an order that had been set to expire on Monday.

Trump signs immigration green card suspension
Existing visa holders are not expected to be affected under the new restrictions announced on Monday.

The order also applies to H-1B visas, many of which are granted to Indian tech workers. Critics say these visas have allowed Silicon Valley companies to outsource American jobs to lower-paid foreign employees. Last year, there were about 225,000 applications competing for 85,000 spots available through the H1-B visa programme.

The order will suspend most H-2B visas for seasonal workers, including those in the hospitality industry, except those in agriculture, the food processing industry and healthcare professionals.

The order will restrict J-1 short-term exchange visas, a category that includes university students and foreign au pairs who provide childcare. Professors and scholars are not included in the order. There will be a provision to request exemptions.

L visas for managers and other key employees of multinational corporations will also be suspended.

What's the reaction?
The aim is to get "the best and the brightest" and "the most value for our economy," a senior official said on the background call.

Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which favours restrictions, told AP news agency: "This is a bold move by the Trump administration to protect American jobs."

But the American Civil Liberties Union said: "It's the exploitation of a pandemic to reshape immigration law, while superseding Congress."

The new policy is also opposed by many businesses, which rely on foreign workers.

"As the economy rebounds, American businesses will need assurances that they can meet all their workforce needs," the Chamber of Commerce wrote in a letter this month warning against new restrictions.

"To that end, it is crucial that they have access to talent both domestically and from around the world."

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-53145317
 
This will screw a lot of Indians unfortunately.

In the recent literary 70% of the selected were Indians.
 
This will screw a lot of Indians unfortunately.

In the recent literary 70% of the selected were Indians.

Unless the rule is extended, it will only delay the stamping.. also job situation isn't that great right now esp for H1bs lot of projects on hold already.

Another thing is for lottery selected in April usually stamping starts from Oct-Nov. To give you an idea for me it happened the next February after lottery selection ..(When in India). This was 4 years ago though..
 
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This rule currently will hurt people that got selected in 2019 Lottery and didn't stamp or travel for ones outside USA, should be ok for the Masters students if they are in India, they don't really need the stamping.
 
This was bound to happen no one can complain. Trump is America first and there is nothing wrong in appeasing your own country men. although these visas are helping the economy, it was also mis used to replace workers with low cost labour from other countries.
It’s a case of greedy farmer and golden egg.. where farmer represents greedy companies!
 
Unless the rule is extended, it will only delay the stamping.. also job situation isn't that great right now esp for H1bs lot of projects on hold already.

Another thing is for lottery selected in April usually stamping starts from Oct-Nov. To give you an idea for me it happened the next February after lottery selection ..(When in India). This was 4 years ago though..

I thought entry starts from October.

Didn’t know you came on h1b. Thought family.

I had a question which I’ve been trying to find answer to.

Why do indian companies like Infosys, TCS etc do h1b by the bucketloads? Why not just do L1 which has no lottery, cap etc so safer bet on the surface? I’m sure there is a reason why preference goes for h1 and not l1. Can you explain?
 
This rule currently will hurt people that got selected in 2019 Lottery and didn't stamp or travel for ones outside USA, should be ok for the Masters students if they are in India, they don't really need the stamping.

And those who have applied for extension and we’re outside US. Or those who got picked for 2020 lottery and don’t have petition approved yet and are not on F1 so no change of status option.
 
This was bound to happen no one can complain. Trump is America first and there is nothing wrong in appeasing your own country men. although these visas are helping the economy, it was also mis used to replace workers with low cost labour from other countries.
It’s a case of greedy farmer and golden egg.. where farmer represents greedy companies!

While you are right about misuse you do realize he has not cancelled the visa he has only delayed the stamping and not to forget as i said above stamping usually starts around Oct-Nov can be done till even next year.

But yes it will hurt those people who got it in 19 but didn't get it stamped yet (for ones outside USA), masters students should be good coz they are already in states.

This might seem like a big deal but its not as big for H1b..it hurts more for H4..spouses,families but again considering Covid-19 not sure if anyone was planning to travel to states till EOY

This rule again is actually an eyewash similar to the GC rule which is in place, his supporters are gullible to say the least, he has delayed it for the NOV election.
 
Unless the rule is extended, it will only delay the stamping.. also job situation isn't that great right now esp for H1bs lot of projects on hold already.

Another thing is for lottery selected in April usually stamping starts from Oct-Nov. To give you an idea for me it happened the next February after lottery selection ..(When in India). This was 4 years ago though..

it can also apply to visa extensions
 
And those who have applied for extension and we’re outside US. Or those who got picked for 2020 lottery and don’t have petition approved yet and are not on F1 so no change of status option.

Big mistake to apply extension when you are not in States, of the extensions a transfer I have done, I was asked to be in states till they were done by attorneys, only in personal emergencies do attorneys agree..
 
While you are right about misuse you do realize he has not cancelled the visa he has only delayed the stamping and not to forget as i said above stamping usually starts around Oct-Nov can be done till even next year.

But yes it will hurt those people who got it in 19 but didn't get it stamped yet (for ones outside USA), masters students should be good coz they are already in states.

This might seem like a big deal but its not as big for H1b..it hurts more for H4..spouses,families but again considering Covid-19 not sure if anyone was planning to travel to states till EOY

This rule again is actually an eyewash similar to the GC rule which is in place, his supporters are gullible to say the least, he has delayed it for the NOV election.

It’s a move to support his own country men at these drastic times and he is well within his rights. certainly not gullible nor need to justify anything

But at end of day the court might turn down this order and everyone stays happy. Americans because he tried and well others you know why..
 
I thought entry starts from October.

Didn’t know you came on h1b. Thought family.

I had a question which I’ve been trying to find answer to.

Why do indian companies like Infosys, TCS etc do h1b by the bucketloads? Why not just do L1 which has no lottery, cap etc so safer bet on the surface? I’m sure there is a reason why preference goes for h1 and not l1. Can you explain?

L1 is extremely hard to get, I remember when I was in India my lead who was managing 10 got rejected, my architect who had 20 also got rejected, so my company did 30 for another guy eventhough he was managing only 25 and he got it, you need to have more resources under someone to do L1 for them and similar issue for extension where would you show so many resources onsite?(it's less for onsite extension though)

Also L1 interviews are extremely drilling and for extension I know two people who got rejected from diff companies in March.(both Indian IT consultancies though).

L1 has great GC prospects though but companies hardly do it, USCIS is extremely strict with it as well.

And how would family sponsor me?
 
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It’s a move to support his own country men at these drastic times and he is well within his rights. certainly not gullible nor need to justify anything

But at end of day the court might turn down this order and everyone stays happy. Americans because he tried and well others you know why..

My point is its not as big or as effective as you or his fox supporters would like to think, it's also not as bad Liberal media would like to think.

I see people saying RIP silicon valley which is utter nonsense as well but they are gullible liberals.
 
Interesting he didn't include TN. I suppose there are not as many TN being issued each year as H1B.
 
Interesting he didn't include TN. I suppose there are not as many TN being issued each year as H1B.

According to the US Department of State, 14,768 TN visas were issued in 2016, with an additional 9,762 being issued to spouses and children of these professionals.

Also TN visa has never been an issue as they don't bring down the salaries also not to forget Canada is considered good neighbor with similar culture.
 
According to the US Department of State, 14,768 TN visas were issued in 2016, with an additional 9,762 being issued to spouses and children of these professionals.

Also TN visa has never been an issue as they don't bring down the salaries also not to forget Canada is considered good neighbor with similar culture.

5k of those TN would have gone to Mexicans (that's the annual limit for Mexicans, there is no limit for Canada as you probably know), so around 9-10k Canadians got TN. But yeah, you are right, TNs are used across a wide range of industries (including but not only tech), whereas H1Bs seem to be largely dominant in tech.

Is there any research on H1Bs getting paid less than US Citizen/Green card counterparts? The tech industry lobby has (to no surprise) put out some research suggesting they don't get underpaid. I take that with a grain of salt.
 
In early March, Poorva Dixit rushed to buy a ticket to India from the United States, her home for more than a decade, after she learned her 72-year-old mother had fallen from her bed and was in critical condition.

She decided to leave her two young children and husband in California because of the risks of the novel coronavirus spreading around the world. Dixit and her husband are Indian nationals, their children are US citizens.

A software developer with a temporary permit to work in the US, Dixit knew that to return she would have to go to the US consulate in Mumbai to get a new visa stamped in her passport, a requirement for some visa holders when they travel abroad.

On March 16, a day before her visa appointment, the consulate shut down due to coronavirus restrictions. Eight days later, her mother passed away.

Now a new immigration order issued by President Donald Trump on Monday that bars the entry of holders of certain temporary work visas, could leave Dixit trapped in India, far from her children, until at least the end of the year.

'Being kept away from my motherhood'
"I've already lost my mother, and I am being kept away from my motherhood as well," Dixit, who is staying with relatives in the outskirts of Mumbai, told Reuters news agency. "At this point, my brain is just a fog."

Dixit is one of nearly 1,000 people in India trapped in similar situations who joined a private group on the messaging app Telegram.

Many like her have lived and worked in the US legally for years but were in India when Trump made his announcement on Monday. They are confused and worried about their options for return, the administrators of the group told Reuters.

Trump's proclamation temporarily suspends the entry of people arriving on a range of work visas, including the H-1B for skilled workers, which is what Dixit and her husband have.

Indians account for 75 percent of visa applications under the H-1B programme, according to the latest US government data.

The ban, which comes into force on Wednesday, also applies to L visas used for international transfers of high-level employees, as well as different categories for seasonal workers and intern and trainee programmes, in addition to accompanying family members.

There are some exemptions to the ban, including those working in the food-supply industry and some medical workers involved in combating the coronavirus. But while the proclamation exempts spouses and children of US citizens, it is silent on the parents of US citizens.

Dixit's husband, Kaustubh Talathi, has been trying to juggle his full-time job with child care for their six and three-year-old daughters.

Dixit calls her children, sometimes for hours a day, trying to keep them occupied by reading books and singing songs so her husband can work.

But she fears the separation will cause long-term psychological damage, especially for her younger daughter, who has grown frustrated with the phone calls.

Her older daughter wrote above a family portrait on the fridge: "Living sadly ever after."

The White House said the visa measure is necessary to make jobs available for Americans when millions are out of work due to the pandemic.

But six Indians, including Dixit, in the Telegram group told Reuters they have held on to their US-based jobs during the pandemic.

Vinod Albuquerque, a 41-year-old business consultant, has continued working remotely for his company in Atlanta since he had to make an emergency trip to Mangalore, on India's west coast, when his father had a stroke in February.

He left his pregnant wife, due in September, and six-year-old son in the US. He, too, was not able to get to a visa appointment before the consulate shuttered and is now stranded.

"It feels so unfair," Albuquerque told Reuters. "We understand maybe something like this for new H-1Bs that have never been to the US, but people like us are collateral damage."

"I still contribute to the economy; I am still being taxed in the US," he said.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...order-separates-families-200624032650699.html
 
The United States Supreme Court ruled on Thursday that the Trump administration can deport some people seeking asylum without allowing them to make their case to a federal judge.

The court's 7-2 ruling applies to people who fail their initial asylum screenings, making them eligible for quick deportation, or expedited removal.

The justices ruled in the case of a man who said he fled persecution as a member of Sri Lanka's Tamil minority, but failed to persuade immigration officials that he faced harm if he returned to Sri Lanka. The man was arrested soon after he slipped across the US border from Mexico.

The high court reversed a lower court ruling in favour of the man, Vijayakumar Thuraissigiam, who was placed in expedited removal proceedings that prohibit people who fail initial interviews from asking federal courts for much help.

Since 2004, immigration officials have targeted for quick deportation undocumented immigrants who are picked up within 100 miles (160km) of the US border and within 14 days of entering the country. The Trump administration is seeking to expand that authority so that people detained anywhere in the US and up to two years after they got here could be quickly deported.

On Tuesday, a federal appeals court threw out a trial judge's ruling that had blocked the expanded policy. Other legal issues remain to be resolved in the case.

The administration has made dismantling the asylum system a centrepiece of its immigration agenda, saying it is rife with abuse and overwhelmed by meritless claims. Changes include making asylum seekers wait in Mexico while their cases wind through US immigration court, denying asylum to anyone on the Mexican border who passes through another country without first seeking protection there, and flying Hondurans and El Salvadorans to Guatemala with an opportunity to seek asylum there instead of the US.

On Monday, the Trump administration published sweeping new procedural and substantive rules that would make it much more difficult to get asylum, triggering a 30-day period for public comment before they can take effect.

The US became the world's top destination for asylum seekers in 2017, according to UN figures, many of them Mexican and Central American families fleeing endemic violence.
 
In early March, Poorva Dixit rushed to buy a ticket to India from the United States, her home for more than a decade, after she learned her 72-year-old mother had fallen from her bed and was in critical condition.

She decided to leave her two young children and husband in California because of the risks of the novel coronavirus spreading around the world. Dixit and her husband are Indian nationals, their children are US citizens.

A software developer with a temporary permit to work in the US, Dixit knew that to return she would have to go to the US consulate in Mumbai to get a new visa stamped in her passport, a requirement for some visa holders when they travel abroad.

On March 16, a day before her visa appointment, the consulate shut down due to coronavirus restrictions. Eight days later, her mother passed away.

Now a new immigration order issued by President Donald Trump on Monday that bars the entry of holders of certain temporary work visas, could leave Dixit trapped in India, far from her children, until at least the end of the year.

'Being kept away from my motherhood'
"I've already lost my mother, and I am being kept away from my motherhood as well," Dixit, who is staying with relatives in the outskirts of Mumbai, told Reuters news agency. "At this point, my brain is just a fog."

Dixit is one of nearly 1,000 people in India trapped in similar situations who joined a private group on the messaging app Telegram.

Many like her have lived and worked in the US legally for years but were in India when Trump made his announcement on Monday. They are confused and worried about their options for return, the administrators of the group told Reuters.

Trump's proclamation temporarily suspends the entry of people arriving on a range of work visas, including the H-1B for skilled workers, which is what Dixit and her husband have.

Indians account for 75 percent of visa applications under the H-1B programme, according to the latest US government data.

The ban, which comes into force on Wednesday, also applies to L visas used for international transfers of high-level employees, as well as different categories for seasonal workers and intern and trainee programmes, in addition to accompanying family members.

There are some exemptions to the ban, including those working in the food-supply industry and some medical workers involved in combating the coronavirus. But while the proclamation exempts spouses and children of US citizens, it is silent on the parents of US citizens.

Dixit's husband, Kaustubh Talathi, has been trying to juggle his full-time job with child care for their six and three-year-old daughters.

Dixit calls her children, sometimes for hours a day, trying to keep them occupied by reading books and singing songs so her husband can work.

But she fears the separation will cause long-term psychological damage, especially for her younger daughter, who has grown frustrated with the phone calls.

Her older daughter wrote above a family portrait on the fridge: "Living sadly ever after."

The White House said the visa measure is necessary to make jobs available for Americans when millions are out of work due to the pandemic.

But six Indians, including Dixit, in the Telegram group told Reuters they have held on to their US-based jobs during the pandemic.

Vinod Albuquerque, a 41-year-old business consultant, has continued working remotely for his company in Atlanta since he had to make an emergency trip to Mangalore, on India's west coast, when his father had a stroke in February.

He left his pregnant wife, due in September, and six-year-old son in the US. He, too, was not able to get to a visa appointment before the consulate shuttered and is now stranded.

"It feels so unfair," Albuquerque told Reuters. "We understand maybe something like this for new H-1Bs that have never been to the US, but people like us are collateral damage."

"I still contribute to the economy; I am still being taxed in the US," he said.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...order-separates-families-200624032650699.html

they can call their children back to india cant they?
 
Donald Trump bars US government agencies from outsourcing to foreign workers

President Donald Trump signed an executive order Monday that bars federal government agencies from displacing American nationals and citizens with foreign workers. It also calls for prohibiting American employers from using H-1B workers to displace Americans in outsourcing contracts. Indians have been largest beneficiaries of the H-1B visa programme.

The White House said in a statement the order will “create a policy where Federal agencies will focus on United States labor in lucrative Federal contracts” as it will be :unfair” for federal government agencies to “ replace perfectly qualified Americans with workers from other countries”.

All federal agencies will conduct an internal audit following to order to ensure “only United States citizens and nationals are appointed to the competitive service.”.

The executive order also enjoins upon the department of labor, which is responsible for ensuring the fairness of the process of hiring foreign workers, to “finalize guidance to prevent H-1B employers from moving H-1B workers to other employers’ job sites to displace Americans workers”, in what is called third-arty locations, essentially the practice of outsourcing using foreign workers on H-1B.

“President Trump’s actions will help combat employers’ misuse of H-1B visas, which were never intended to replace qualified American workers with low-cost foreign labor,” said the White House.

The is a follow-up of the April 2017 “Buy American, Hire American” executive order that unleashed a series of ongoing steps and measures bringing unprecedented scrutiny and tightening of the H-1B visa programme that has been in the crosshairs of the administration’s immigration hardliners.

Indian hired by US companies such as Facebook, Google, Microsoft and Amazon and US subsidiaries of Indian IT forms Infosys, TCS and Wipro are the largest beneficiaries of the H-1B visa programme, accounting for more than 70% of the 85,000 that are issued every year.

A response is awaited from Nasscom, which represents the Indian IT industry.

The immediate provocation for the Monday order is the decision in May for the Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA), the largest federally owned power provider, to outsource 20% of its highly skilled tech workers to Accenture, Capgemini and CGI, that are based in Ireland, France and Canada respectively.

The White House said TVA’s action could lead to the firing of 200 highly-skilled American tech workers, who will be replaced by “low-wage, foreign workers hired on temporary work visas.” and cost the local economy tens of millions of dollars in the coming 5 years.

“So let this serve as a warning to any federally appointed board,” Trump said at a White House event to sign the order, where he also said he was pushing for the firing of the TVA CEO Jeff Lyash. “If you betray American workers, then you will hear two simple words ‘you’re fired. You’re fired’.”

The Trump administration said outsourcing of hundreds of workers was “especially detrimental in the middle of a pandemic”, which has led to millions of job-losses. Trump has also suspended the H-1B visa programme — as well as Green Cards — to ensure Americans get the first shot at jobs becoming available now as the economy struggles to get back to normalcy, from record job losses.

It also sought to frame the practice of outsourcing, with a new twists, asa “national security risk”, if linked to IT jobs that involve sensitive information. The reference was probably to the country’s growing estrangement from China, which the Trump administration has accused of theft of intellectual property rights.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/worl...ign-workers/story-ifzkwfjOBL1Uq3zYFqtaeL.html
 
LOL all the copy paste 'software engineers' from Lovely professional university and other such institutions in India must be having sleepless nights.
 
LOL all the copy paste 'software engineers' from Lovely professional university and other such institutions in India must be having sleepless nights.

Saw stats the other day, half of the states in US after you take away immigration from Mexico, guess which nation has the highest number of immigrants?

You come to the UK, Australia or Canada and we can guess which nation that is as well and in those countries they're either number two or one again.
 
Saw stats the other day, half of the states in US after you take away immigration from Mexico, guess which nation has the highest number of immigrants?

You come to the UK, Australia or Canada and we can guess which nation that is as well and in those countries they're either number two or one again.

Not sure why Indians are falling over each other to run to the west. As per [MENTION=142162]Napa[/MENTION] parts of India are like first world countries.
 
LOL all the copy paste 'software engineers' from Lovely professional university and other such institutions in India must be having sleepless nights.

Still wipes the floor with Axact if that's even remaining anymore.
 
Every country is within its own rights in terms of immigration, protecting local economy or protecting sovereignty. America sees a threat from this and safeguarding it. It’s seems alright from their perspective
 
Australia and Canada offer skilled visas and permanent residency and indians being the most eligible for these visas shows quality. it’s different from illegal or backdoor immigration
 
Will indian enrollment in US unis suffer going forward?

Usually I’ve seen following the following pattern:

Do undergrad in India and then make a run for it to get out of the country to do some MS in US and then work on STEM OPT and H1B.

I feel majority of these do a disservice to Indians image among Americans. They only study a year or max 2 in American unis and only hang out with other Indians and as a result never really integrate or make American friends. And then they’re always seem as ‘others’ and when they get a job it’s seen as them taking away jobs from Americans.

I feel ones who do undergrad are more assimilated and not seen negatively
 
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Will indian enrollment in US unis suffer going forward?

Usually I’ve seen following the following pattern:

Do undergrad in India and then make a run for it to get out of the country to do some MS in US and then work on STEM OPT and H1B.

I feel majority of these do a disservice to Indians image among Americans. They only study a year or max 2 in American unis and only hang out with other Indians and as a result never really integrate or make American friends. And then they’re always seem as ‘others’ and when they get a job it’s seen as them taking away jobs from Americans.

I feel ones who do undergrad are more assimilated and not seen negatively

You feel they are not assimilated and they probably think those with your background are not assimilated. My bachelor's classmates who came to the US after their B-Techs are no less integrated than those who came for their undergrads.

Indian-Americans are very successful, they have the highest median household incomes followed by Taiwanese-Americans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income
 
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You feel they are not assimilated and they probably think those with your background are not assimilated. My bachelor's classmates who came to the US after their B-Techs are no less integrated than those who came for their undergrads.

Indian-Americans are very successful, they have the highest median household incomes followed by Taiwanese-Americans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Yet they are vilified all the time and can’t get S386 or whatever it is to pass. And theirfamilies are being torn apart due to H1b restrictions.
 
Yet they are vilified all the time and can’t get S386 or whatever it is to pass. And theirfamilies are being torn apart due to H1b restrictions.

Remember you explicitly saying that Indians don't demand rights when they are in western countries and yet when they want S386 to pass you seem to change strides now?
 
Remember you explicitly saying that Indians don't demand rights when they are in western countries and yet when they want S386 to pass you seem to change strides now?

What stride am I changing now lol.

They aren’t demanding rights is exactly what I’m saying despite the position of apparent strength. S386 should be easy to pass for the richest sub group in the US but they can’t do it. It failed in the house and there was no huge canvassing for it. The common man doesn’t even know it.

You think if the Jewish Americans wanted a change like that it would have faced same fate?
 
What stride am I changing now lol.

They aren’t demanding rights is exactly what I’m saying despite the position of apparent strength. S386 should be easy to pass for the richest sub group in the US but they can’t do it. It failed in the house and there was no huge canvassing for it. The common man doesn’t even know it.

You think if the Jewish Americans wanted a change like that it would have faced same fate?

S386 isn't supported by Indian Americans, its supported by people whose birth place is India and are in that line for GC and have no voting rights either. All that is fair and circumstantial but it's good to see them argue their case.

Hope that clears the situations. Indian Americans want good relations between America and India but they don't want more competition either, only ones who I see supporting this is Indian grocery stores.
 
S386 isn't supported by Indian Americans, its supported by people whose birth place is India and are in that line for GC and have no voting rights either. All that is fair and circumstantial but it's good to see them argue their case.

Hope that clears the situations. Indian Americans want good relations between America and India but they don't want more competition either, only ones who I see supporting this is Indian grocery stores.
The average household income stat doesn’t include people born in India and living in the US now? It does
 
The average household income stat doesn’t include people born in India and living in the US now? It does

What does that have to do with the bill though? Indian Americans are not same as Indian born currently on H1b/I140/GC etc..
 
Will indian enrollment in US unis suffer going forward?

Usually I’ve seen following the following pattern:

Do undergrad in India and then make a run for it to get out of the country to do some MS in US and then work on STEM OPT and H1B.

I feel majority of these do a disservice to Indians image among Americans. They only study a year or max 2 in American unis and only hang out with other Indians and as a result never really integrate or make American friends. And then they’re always seem as ‘others’ and when they get a job it’s seen as them taking away jobs from Americans.

I feel ones who do undergrad are more assimilated and not seen negatively


The longer you live somewhere the more you assimilate. However in the eyes of Pakistani and Indian American females who were born in the US, there is no difference between those desis who came for a bachelors, and those who came for a masters degree. They are both seen negatively.
 
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