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I know this may sound very illogical but knowing Pakistan I very well expect them to do a in Nasser Hussain words " One minute down next minute up " thing and this might be it. Logic never works with our team and everyone knows of our unpredicibility. Anyways this thread will be fun
 
If Pakistan do it

Serious questions needs to be asked to the current England management in the exact same way Dominic Cummings was put through a select committee at Parliament
 
I was thinking the same, I genuinely think we can whitewash England in the T20 series.

I reckon Nawaz/Imad, Sharjeel and Usman Qadir will have a lot to say in this series.
 
Even the most optimistic fan wouldn’t dare say such a thing, looking at the squad England has just announced. This is the best batting line-up in the world with some monstrous hitters of the cricket ball.

We will be mauled.
 
Pakistan unpredictably tag is from when a time when they had a number of match winners in the same team, who did not always perform to their potential. When they did perform then it was game.

Now there is the likes of Imam and Babar who can bat 50 overs yet not worry the opposition.

Likewise bowlers like Rauf and Faheem who are either expensive or not threatening.
 
That mercurial tag is also going away from Pakistan now, as rightly mentioned it was based on having several match winners in the side in the past. That is not the case now, its a pretty mediocre team.
 
I know this may sound very illogical but knowing Pakistan I very well expect them to do a in Nasser Hussain words " One minute down next minute up " thing and this might be it. Logic never works with our team and everyone knows of our unpredicibility. Anyways this thread will be fun

Would you be surprised if England win 3-0?
 
T20 is more of a lottery and much less skilled than other formats, so they have a good chance of getting something from the series.

Sad how we've been reduced to hoping for victories in T20 cuz we can't cut it anywhere else against the top 4.
 
ermmm...I wouldn't be surprised as this is a sport but I highly doubt it. England are a top rung T20 side and although Pakistan are decent, especially if they have two of the following three playing: Imad/Nawaz/Qadir.
 
this cornered tiger and unpredictability tag have harm Pakistan more than anything.
 
Would you be surprised if England win 3-0?

I feel this is the tailor made situation for us to shock world cricket again. If there is one team which can lose to English C and win against full strength England it's got to be us.
 
We did beat NZ in the T-20 series in 2018 after getting a brutal 5-0 whooping in the ODI series and losing the first T-20 game. I consider T-20 bilateral contests to be soft cricket. It doesn't really mean much in the larger scheme of things. Our approach is pathetic, other Big 4 teams like Australia, NZ, England, India use bilaterall T-20 contests as a platform to test their bench strength whereas Pakistan is the only team which insists on playing their first eleven in all formats. Even our T-20 rankings under Sarfaraz where inflated because we kept playing our strong eleven in the T-20 formats whereas other teams were resting their main players and playing their fringe, bench players.

The reality of our showings in the ODI and T-20 format against the major teams of the world in the last ten years clearly indicates that our limited overs cricket is very backward and stuck in the 90's.
 
I feel this is the tailor made situation for us to shock world cricket again. If there is one team which can lose to English C and win against full strength England it's got to be us.

As someone mentioned earlier the unpredictable tag was when Pak team had a bunch of superstars who could win matches on their own and they used to win matches whether be it Akhtar bowling a fiery spell or Razzak playing a blinding innings.

But the current team sadly but truly has no such match-winners. Also the gap between the top 4 teams and the rest is pretty wide to expect such miracles. Even in the top 4 only ENG, IND and NZ have the capability to play 2 teams at the samde time. AUS is lagging a bit in that sense.

So keeping in mind the mercurial performance of the team in the 90s and 2000s and hoping this team would do the same doesn't seem plausible.
 
Let alone T20I against England, I would not be surprised if this same team beats literally any team on its day in next 2-3 years.

People feeling disappointed by this series loss are either too young or naïve about Pakistani cricket culture. It has always been like this. They loose and win under the most unfavorable conditions. The same Pakistan that lost like a minnow against WI in WC2019 went on to thrash three SENA nations including both the finalists. They fought hard against Australia as well. Then they almost lost against Afghanistan. I once heard Rambo saying that if Pakistan wins the 10 test series against top sides, they can still draw or loose against a non test playing nation.

Why is that ? the brand of cricket we play is non methodological and our selections are emotionally structured based on raw talent we see in players. We never adapted the data based game plan model that other teams adapted 15-20 years ago and instead we even today rely upon two or three players firing up. Yesterday it was Babar Azam and Rizwan and nobody fired in bowling so we lost. Same set of players in next series will produce performances and Pakistan will win again and this will continue.

This has been the story of Pakistan cricket and it will always stay the same until we as a nation think differently which we never will. Pakistani cricket team has never been a world beater like most people think. It has always been an extremely dangerous team that sits on 3rd to 5th in rankings but unlike others in same group of it can pack an extreme level punch that can dismantle the top teams when it feels like it, while lose to bottom teams or get white washed when it feels like it.
 
Pakistans unpredictability wasn't as a result of punching about their weight ( although there have been instances like CT win), it was as a result of very talented players routinely failing.

The Pakistan of the 90's and early 2000's had no business being unpredictable. They should have dominated cricket. At the very least the ODI format during that era and won 2-3 world cups instead of just 1992.

The fact they constantly put in underwhelming performances sprinkled with amazing is a negative, not a positive.
 
Excellent post. I fully agree with this. I won't be surprised if Pak wins the T20 series against this full-strength England team. In fact, I won't be surprised if Pak wins the T20 World cup in October.

Let alone T20I against England, I would not be surprised if this same team beats literally any team on its day in next 2-3 years.

People feeling disappointed by this series loss are either too young or naïve about Pakistani cricket culture. It has always been like this. They loose and win under the most unfavorable conditions. The same Pakistan that lost like a minnow against WI in WC2019 went on to thrash three SENA nations including both the finalists. They fought hard against Australia as well. Then they almost lost against Afghanistan. I once heard Rambo saying that if Pakistan wins the 10 test series against top sides, they can still draw or loose against a non test playing nation.

Why is that ? the brand of cricket we play is non methodological and our selections are emotionally structured based on raw talent we see in players. We never adapted the data based game plan model that other teams adapted 15-20 years ago and instead we even today rely upon two or three players firing up. Yesterday it was Babar Azam and Rizwan and nobody fired in bowling so we lost. Same set of players in next series will produce performances and Pakistan will win again and this will continue.

This has been the story of Pakistan cricket and it will always stay the same until we as a nation think differently which we never will. Pakistani cricket team has never been a world beater like most people think. It has always been an extremely dangerous team that sits on 3rd to 5th in rankings but unlike others in same group of it can pack an extreme level punch that can dismantle the top teams when it feels like it, while lose to bottom teams or get white washed when it feels like it.
 
Let alone T20I against England, I would not be surprised if this same team beats literally any team on its day in next 2-3 years.


Literally any team can beat any other team "on it's day". :91:

Sri Lanka played like a minnow in the last 3-4 years but still beat England in the World Cup and India in the champions Trophy.

Ireland just beat South Africa and they've beaten England last year.

Dunno how that's unique to just Pakistan.
 
Nothing makes me cringe more than this “unpredictability” crap that a lot of Pakistani fans keep going on about. I will be very surprised. You know why? Because we’re not unpredictable. We’re garbage. And also because T20 is the format that allows for the most flukes.
 
That mercurial tag is also going away from Pakistan now, as rightly mentioned it was based on having several match winners in the side in the past. That is not the case now, its a pretty mediocre team.

Came here to say this. Who's going to win you a game from nowhere out of this bunch?
 
Might as well be surprised if this team beats English women’s team ( cricket or football) . It’s to start playing Gilly Danda and not expect too much.T20 isn’t cricket anyways. It’s the obsession with T20’s that has single handedly resulted in such sorry state of affairs.
 
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2-1 to England. Misbah's team (when he was captain and now as coach) are timid in limited overs.
 
Guys like Bairstow and Roy usually give their wickets away cheaply in T20s and judging by their averages, they would rather play an explosive 20 than try and preserve their wicket.

If Pakistan can keep the pressure on English batters through controlled bowling, we can challenge them.
 
Pak will win T20.... so fans will forget the meaningless 50 over matches lost to second string Eng eleven....
Pak becoming predictable now....in some ways
 
I really want to see an end of the Misbah/Waqar combo. A pakistan win would be disastrous in the long run.
 
Let alone T20I against England, I would not be surprised if this same team beats literally any team on its day in next 2-3 years.

People feeling disappointed by this series loss are either too young or naïve about Pakistani cricket culture. It has always been like this. They loose and win under the most unfavorable conditions. The same Pakistan that lost like a minnow against WI in WC2019 went on to thrash three SENA nations including both the finalists. They fought hard against Australia as well. Then they almost lost against Afghanistan. I once heard Rambo saying that if Pakistan wins the 10 test series against top sides, they can still draw or loose against a non test playing nation.

Why is that ? the brand of cricket we play is non methodological and our selections are emotionally structured based on raw talent we see in players. We never adapted the data based game plan model that other teams adapted 15-20 years ago and instead we even today rely upon two or three players firing up. Yesterday it was Babar Azam and Rizwan and nobody fired in bowling so we lost. Same set of players in next series will produce performances and Pakistan will win again and this will continue.

This has been the story of Pakistan cricket and it will always stay the same until we as a nation think differently which we never will. Pakistani cricket team has never been a world beater like most people think. It has always been an extremely dangerous team that sits on 3rd to 5th in rankings but unlike others in same group of it can pack an extreme level punch that can dismantle the top teams when it feels like it, while lose to bottom teams or get white washed when it feels like it.
Excellent Post!
On the money as Waqar would say...
 
The T20 team is far, far stronger than the ODI team!

Pak are still clueless on how to play the modern way in ODI's, plus the selection of players that meander along at 90 sr rather than 100+ also plays a major role.

Pak team at least knows that you just have to score quickly in T20's.
 
Literally any team can beat any other team "on it's day". :91:

Sri Lanka played like a minnow in the last 3-4 years but still beat England in the World Cup and India in the champions Trophy.

Ireland just beat South Africa and they've beaten England last year.

Dunno how that's unique to just Pakistan.

You went fully Indian in this post.

no team can regularly defeat SENA nations in big tourneys how Pakistan does. Other teams can cause upsets here and there but Pakistan has been doing it for its entire history.

Sri lanka is not playing like a total minnow. Their test side had been winning against Pakistan (if we discount last tour to Pak where they got whitewashed) and delivered two full draws to Indos Inside India. They have 2-3 players that can walk into any SC test side.

But comparing them to pakistan ... tell me when has Srilanka done what Pakistan has done in past 6-7 years (since seniors in both teams retired).

- Pakistan drew against a full strength England in England.
- Won CT17.
- Won against three SENA nations including two finalists in WC.
- Became No.1 in tests and stayed No.2 for a rather long time.
- Have a World No.1 batsman playing in the ODI side with an average of 57.
- Maintained a test record of ~50 test wins with 27% (I do not remember the correct no.) wins in SENA.

.... List goes on. Pakistan like I said has always been a 3rd-4th ranking team that can rattle anyone above when it wants because we play risky non methodological game which no other team plays.
 
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Excellent Post!
On the money as Waqar would say...

Excellent post. I fully agree with this. I won't be surprised if Pak wins the T20 series against this full-strength England team. In fact, I won't be surprised if Pak wins the T20 World cup in October.

Thanks guys.

One can hate Pakistan or dislike Pakistan but you can not ignore Pakistan because it is a psycho team that would not play a normal calculated game. It will either loose bad like minnows or thrash top tier oppositions but would not sit idle.
 
The more I read stuff like the replies in this thread, the closer I inch towards [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION]’s side. Pakistani fans only deserve mediocrity and losses.
 
There’s a reason Pakistan haven’t made T20 World Cup semi finals since 2012 and it’s not “unpredictability”
 
Say whatever but this unpredictable nature of Pakistan team is what everyone loves about them.

On a given day, they can beat anyone.

They play their best cricket when they play as cornered tigers.

You never know what you are gonna get with them.

You always wanna know when Pakistan turns up, whether it is the day to take them fir granted or whether it is the day to respect their natural talent.
 
Say whatever but this unpredictable nature of Pakistan team is what everyone loves about them.

On a given day, they can beat anyone.

They play their best cricket when they play as cornered tigers.

You never know what you are gonna get with them.

You always wanna know when Pakistan turns up, whether it is the day to take them fir granted or whether it is the day to respect their natural talent.

I am beginning to doubt on the natural talent phenomenon. They do play with a lot of more flair some days and thats when fortune favours them. You cannot be 59/1 in 17 overs in an ODI and expect to win the game. Imam-ul-Haq’s knock in the 3rd ODI was an advertisement of selfishness.
 
Doubt that will happen but if it does get ready for all the so called fans who cried and cried over our pathetic performance to now being to sing all their praises for Pakistan and how we are one of the favourites for the T20 WC.
 
If we fluke a win or two, Misbah and Babar will say that we have learned from our “mistakes” and then they will get smashed in the next series and repeat the same “mistakes”.

If this is what people enjoy - the cringeworthy, cliche quotes by a cheerleader like Nasser Hussain, all this nonsense talk of how we are unpredictable, how Pakistan cricket is a roller-coaster bla bla bla, then good for them I guess.
 
Cringeworthy post. This unpredictability tag is nothing to be proud of.
 
If we fluke a win or two, Misbah and Babar will say that we have learned from our “mistakes” and then they will get smashed in the next series and repeat the same “mistakes”.

If this is what people enjoy - the cringeworthy, cliche quotes by a cheerleader like Nasser Hussain, all this nonsense talk of how we are unpredictable, how Pakistan cricket is a roller-coaster bla bla bla, then good for them I guess.

But what does Naseer Hussain get by cheerleading Pakistan cricket?
 
Let alone T20I against England, I would not be surprised if this same team beats literally any team on its day in next 2-3 years.

People feeling disappointed by this series loss are either too young or naïve about Pakistani cricket culture. It has always been like this. They loose and win under the most unfavorable conditions. The same Pakistan that lost like a minnow against WI in WC2019 went on to thrash three SENA nations including both the finalists. They fought hard against Australia as well. Then they almost lost against Afghanistan. I once heard Rambo saying that if Pakistan wins the 10 test series against top sides, they can still draw or loose against a non test playing nation.

Why is that ? the brand of cricket we play is non methodological and our selections are emotionally structured based on raw talent we see in players. We never adapted the data based game plan model that other teams adapted 15-20 years ago and instead we even today rely upon two or three players firing up. Yesterday it was Babar Azam and Rizwan and nobody fired in bowling so we lost. Same set of players in next series will produce performances and Pakistan will win again and this will continue.

This has been the story of Pakistan cricket and it will always stay the same until we as a nation think differently which we never will. Pakistani cricket team has never been a world beater like most people think. It has always been an extremely dangerous team that sits on 3rd to 5th in rankings but unlike others in same group of it can pack an extreme level punch that can dismantle the top teams when it feels like it, while lose to bottom teams or get white washed when it feels like it.

Finally. Someone who has the same reaction as me to these emotional, knee-jerk, doomsday posts whenever Pakistan gets embarassed.
 
Let alone T20I against England, I would not be surprised if this same team beats literally any team on its day in next 2-3 years.

People feeling disappointed by this series loss are either too young or naïve about Pakistani cricket culture. It has always been like this. They loose and win under the most unfavorable conditions. The same Pakistan that lost like a minnow against WI in WC2019 went on to thrash three SENA nations including both the finalists. They fought hard against Australia as well. Then they almost lost against Afghanistan. I once heard Rambo saying that if Pakistan wins the 10 test series against top sides, they can still draw or loose against a non test playing nation.

Why is that ? the brand of cricket we play is non methodological and our selections are emotionally structured based on raw talent we see in players. We never adapted the data based game plan model that other teams adapted 15-20 years ago and instead we even today rely upon two or three players firing up. Yesterday it was Babar Azam and Rizwan and nobody fired in bowling so we lost. Same set of players in next series will produce performances and Pakistan will win again and this will continue.

This has been the story of Pakistan cricket and it will always stay the same until we as a nation think differently which we never will. Pakistani cricket team has never been a world beater like most people think. It has always been an extremely dangerous team that sits on 3rd to 5th in rankings but unlike others in same group of it can pack an extreme level punch that can dismantle the top teams when it feels like it, while lose to bottom teams or get white washed when it feels like it.

What you said may be right, but then again, it's still not good.

It gives fans unrealistic hope that perhaps Pakistan can show some consistency, perhaps Pakistan can win a series against a top 4 team, but that's the issue.

That word "perhaps" doesn't do any good to the team's fan following, because people know that you will probably lose to cheap teams and might beat the big teams, but that's not what anyone wants.

If any Pakistani is content with losing to teams feeding at the bottom of ICC rankings, but somehow beating the best in one or two games, you are lying to yourself.

In reality, we want a Pakistan side which truly dominates the world across all formats, and does not repeat the same mistakes.

We have been the same team throughout our history, and that is not an achievement, it is a disgrace. It is disgraceful how we have never been able to implement any sort of consistency post Imran Khan's captaincy. India went from being an average team to a world-class team. New Zealand went from being minnows to world-beaters. When, if even, will that happen to Pakistan Cricket?

The reason you see so many doomsday posts is because nobody wants to see a comeback after every single game, people want to see the team win and force the other team into tough situations.

There is nothing more satisfying for a cricket fan than watching their team absolutely pulverize another team, but when you're on the receiving end of the spectrum, it's a horrible feeling.

Even if being "mercurial" is part of Pakistani culture, it is wrong. You shouldn't praise being the most inconsistent team, because whilst some may see it as a compliment, it isn't. It just means that the management, the players, and the fans are all delusional in thinking that the team will be anything more than what it is.

Of course, I think that there are a lot of things we can change with the right mindset which will help improve our cricket greatly.

We don't have players even half as talented as the Big 3, but we sure as hell can be among the top 4 sides in the world if we put our backs to work.

Every big team starts off in the mid-table and works its way up, and maintains that position for a few years by providing consistent performances. Who knows, in a few years, one of the Big 3 (likely Australia in my opinion) might suffer due to various reasons, and there could be a place for Pakistan to take if we work hard enough.

But the first change comes from the mind, letting go of this "mercurial cornered tigers" mentality and instilling a winning mentality, one with the ability to identify areas to improve, learn, and most importantly, adapt to difficult situations. A few bad performances are excusable, losing to a C team is not.

Anyone who takes pride in Pakistan being mercurial, and thinks that the 1992 Cornered Tigers was a step forward for Pakistan Cricket doesn't need to look too far to see how poorly it has affected our cricket.

Right now, we are luckily a mid-table team, and we have it much easier than Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, and West Indies, but that means nothing if we are unable to use our position to at least try and punch above our weight and put up a fight once in a while.

A lot of people say that our fans have unrealistic expectations, but I think the issue is the players. Our players take satisfaction in doing the bare minimum. Our fans also take satisfaction in beating a crippled Zimbabwe team. It's an issue of mentality, it should be very hard to satisfy fans with a win over a team like Zimbabwe, but that isn't the case. Until this mentality changes, Pakistan is, and always will be a mediocre team who fans hype up with regards to this mercurial and unpredictability tag which has swallowed our cricket and left it to rot.
 
The unpredictablility, mercurial and cornered tigers tags were fine till maybe 2003. Now it's cringeworthy to hear these words to defend the mediocrity of our team. Since 2010, we have mostly been poor with a few inspired performances occurring every now and then.
 
A team which fires on all cylinders only 3/10 times is not unpredictable- it is predictably bad.
 
What you said may be right, but then again, it's still not good.

It gives fans unrealistic hope that perhaps Pakistan can show some consistency, perhaps Pakistan can win a series against a top 4 team, but that's the issue.

That word "perhaps" doesn't do any good to the team's fan following, because people know that you will probably lose to cheap teams and might beat the big teams, but that's not what anyone wants.

If any Pakistani is content with losing to teams feeding at the bottom of ICC rankings, but somehow beating the best in one or two games, you are lying to yourself.

In reality, we want a Pakistan side which truly dominates the world across all formats, and does not repeat the same mistakes.

We have been the same team throughout our history, and that is not an achievement, it is a disgrace. It is disgraceful how we have never been able to implement any sort of consistency post Imran Khan's captaincy. India went from being an average team to a world-class team. New Zealand went from being minnows to world-beaters. When, if even, will that happen to Pakistan Cricket?

The reason you see so many doomsday posts is because nobody wants to see a comeback after every single game, people want to see the team win and force the other team into tough situations.

There is nothing more satisfying for a cricket fan than watching their team absolutely pulverize another team, but when you're on the receiving end of the spectrum, it's a horrible feeling.

Even if being "mercurial" is part of Pakistani culture, it is wrong. You shouldn't praise being the most inconsistent team, because whilst some may see it as a compliment, it isn't. It just means that the management, the players, and the fans are all delusional in thinking that the team will be anything more than what it is.

Of course, I think that there are a lot of things we can change with the right mindset which will help improve our cricket greatly.

We don't have players even half as talented as the Big 3, but we sure as hell can be among the top 4 sides in the world if we put our backs to work.

Every big team starts off in the mid-table and works its way up, and maintains that position for a few years by providing consistent performances. Who knows, in a few years, one of the Big 3 (likely Australia in my opinion) might suffer due to various reasons, and there could be a place for Pakistan to take if we work hard enough.

But the first change comes from the mind, letting go of this "mercurial cornered tigers" mentality and instilling a winning mentality, one with the ability to identify areas to improve, learn, and most importantly, adapt to difficult situations. A few bad performances are excusable, losing to a C team is not.

Anyone who takes pride in Pakistan being mercurial, and thinks that the 1992 Cornered Tigers was a step forward for Pakistan Cricket doesn't need to look too far to see how poorly it has affected our cricket.

Right now, we are luckily a mid-table team, and we have it much easier than Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, and West Indies, but that means nothing if we are unable to use our position to at least try and punch above our weight and put up a fight once in a while.

A lot of people say that our fans have unrealistic expectations, but I think the issue is the players. Our players take satisfaction in doing the bare minimum. Our fans also take satisfaction in beating a crippled Zimbabwe team. It's an issue of mentality, it should be very hard to satisfy fans with a win over a team like Zimbabwe, but that isn't the case. Until this mentality changes, Pakistan is, and always will be a mediocre team who fans hype up with regards to this mercurial and unpredictability tag which has swallowed our cricket and left it to rot.

Excellent post. Our whole mentality is rotten to the core
 
I am beginning to doubt on the natural talent phenomenon. They do play with a lot of more flair some days and thats when fortune favours them. You cannot be 59/1 in 17 overs in an ODI and expect to win the game. Imam-ul-Haq’s knock in the 3rd ODI was an advertisement of selfishness.

There is too much of micromanagement for natural talent to thrive in Pakistan criket anymore.
 
The T20 team is far, far stronger than the ODI team!

Pak are still clueless on how to play the modern way in ODI's, plus the selection of players that meander along at 90 sr rather than 100+ also plays a major role.

Pak team at least knows that you just have to score quickly in T20's.

Like I said, this T20 team is far ahead of the ODI team.

Nothing to do with unpredictable Pak, just that the Pak team is a world class outfit in T20's.

They duly proved it with that thumping win.
 
Even the most optimistic fan wouldn’t dare say such a thing, looking at the squad England has just announced. This is the best batting line-up in the world with some monstrous hitters of the cricket ball.

We will be mauled.

HAHAHAHAHA.

Pakistan was just waiting for a real England side to show up.

And then, completely maul them, like today.


:salute
 
Not a full strength England team. They were testing out some players. Next Twenty20 England should run it. Great match none the less.
 
Let alone T20I against England, I would not be surprised if this same team beats literally any team on its day in next 2-3 years.

People feeling disappointed by this series loss are either too young or naïve about Pakistani cricket culture. It has always been like this. They loose and win under the most unfavorable conditions. The same Pakistan that lost like a minnow against WI in WC2019 went on to thrash three SENA nations including both the finalists. They fought hard against Australia as well. Then they almost lost against Afghanistan. I once heard Rambo saying that if Pakistan wins the 10 test series against top sides, they can still draw or loose against a non test playing nation.

Why is that ? the brand of cricket we play is non methodological and our selections are emotionally structured based on raw talent we see in players. We never adapted the data based game plan model that other teams adapted 15-20 years ago and instead we even today rely upon two or three players firing up. Yesterday it was Babar Azam and Rizwan and nobody fired in bowling so we lost. Same set of players in next series will produce performances and Pakistan will win again and this will continue.

This has been the story of Pakistan cricket and it will always stay the same until we as a nation think differently which we never will. Pakistani cricket team has never been a world beater like most people think. It has always been an extremely dangerous team that sits on 3rd to 5th in rankings but unlike others in same group of it can pack an extreme level punch that can dismantle the top teams when it feels like it, while lose to bottom teams or get white washed when it feels like it.

uhm-ahm ...:afridi
 
Ridiculous to see Misbah fans, who were nowhere to be seen during the drubbing by England C, suddenly crawl out of their holes & portray this win as some sort of WC triumph. Let this be on record that England rested at least 5 of their 1st choice T20 players: Archer, Wood, Stokes, Buttler, Rashid. Not their fault if they're not as shameless as Misbah & actually believe in giving opportunities to younger players in meaningless LOIs.

One would have to be massively delusional to think scoring 230 against Gregory, Parkinson & Saqib Mahmood is an Oscar worthy performance. Usual Misbah Apologists clutching at straws to cover up for the historic humiliation their Messiah was handed just few days ago.
 
I think many of us tend to over analyze. So what if England rested 5 of their players, they’re trying out the best best 5 they have to offer who might even be better.. ever considered that? This was England’s best team on this day, Pakistan won let’s enjoy it and build off this. Or we can go down to the n’th degree and analyze everything, like Archer played but he wasn’t 100% so that doesn’t count or Stokes played but he wasn’t trying because it’s Pakistan. This was a quality English side and a top notch performance by Pakistan.
 
Played really well Pakistan, Babar and Rizwan once again were excellent. Fans don't have to get carried away by one T20 win though, this is a different format, Pakistan will still be concerned over their ODI failings against a reserve side and there is so much scope for improvement in all three departments of the game. We all know that, so nothing to get overexcited about.
 
I think many of us tend to over analyze. So what if England rested 5 of their players, they’re trying out the best best 5 they have to offer who might even be better.. ever considered that? This was England’s best team on this day, Pakistan won let’s enjoy it and build off this. Or we can go down to the n’th degree and analyze everything, like Archer played but he wasn’t 100% so that doesn’t count or Stokes played but he wasn’t trying because it’s Pakistan. This was a quality English side and a top notch performance by Pakistan.

I wonder how can we say its quality England side in absence of
Adil Rashid
Jof Archer
Jos Buttler
Jordan
 
England is not playing with full strength.
Archer, Buttler, Stokes, Sam Curran, Rashid and Jordan are missing.
 
Good prediction .. Pakistan are a very good team when it comes to T20 cricket ..
 
I’m not surprised at all because we didn’t beat them. I would’ve been if we did.
 
I know this may sound very illogical but knowing Pakistan I very well expect them to do a in Nasser Hussain words " One minute down next minute up " thing and this might be it. Logic never works with our team and everyone knows of our unpredicibility. Anyways this thread will be fun

In all reality, we are actually surprised that we won, one game against England.

That’s what your OP should’ve been about.

What Naser should’ve said been, one minute up, 10 hours down.
 
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