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So he said he was unfit to play for peshawar zalmi but now hes ready to participate in IPL. Yes, money talks but this is pretty cheap from him. PSL should teach him a lesson and not select him at all
 
MachoKhan said:
So he said he was unfit to play for peshawar zalmi but now hes ready to participate in IPL. Yes, money talks but this is pretty cheap from him. PSL should teach him a lesson and not select him at all
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That IPL is after PSL and he has time to heal seems to have lost on you.
 
PCB should think about hosting the PSL after the IPL. Best chance to get a better pool of foreign players. Given that we cant match the IPL in terms of Perks and Salaries, no foreign player will risk wear and tear, injury and risk missing the IPL.
 
Savak said:
PCB should think about hosting the PSL after the IPL. Best chance to get a better pool of foreign players. Given that we cant match the IPL in terms of Perks and Salaries, no foreign player will risk wear and tear, injury and risk missing the IPL.
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When is the rainy season in Pakistan? I can see that coinciding.
 
Savak said:
PCB should think about hosting the PSL after the IPL. Best chance to get a better pool of foreign players. Given that we cant match the IPL in terms of Perks and Salaries, no foreign player will risk wear and tear, injury and risk missing the IPL.
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isnt that the CPL window ?


Pretty obvious the boards have some verbal agreement to make sure the top leagues dont cross over each other
 
Hopefully I would get to play in the World Cup: Bravo

CHENNAI: Out of national of reckoning for a while now, West Indies allrounder Dwayne Bravo is hoping to get a chance to play for his country at next year's World Cup after the two-time champions qualified for the 50 over quadrennial event to be held in England.

The West Indies snatched a spot at next year's World Cup by notching up a five-run victory over Scotland via DLS method in Harare on Wednesday.

Bravo, who has been out of the ODI side since the tour of India in 2014 and last played for West Indies in September, 2016 at Abu Dhabi, congratulated the young team for making it to the World Cup.

"First of all, congrats to the team for qualifying. I am happy for the guys. World Cup without the West Indies... I mean there is FIFA World Cup without Italy. These things are possible. No one team or one country are guaranteed anything," he told reporters at a promotional event here.

"It is a young team. The cricketing world loves to see West Indies and love to see West Indies competing with the best. I wish them all the best. Hopefully, I would get to play in the World Cup as well," added the 34-year-old former skipper.

Bravo along with a few others have been at loggerheads with West Indies board over pay. Recently Cricket West Indies (CWI) chairman Courtney Brown had said that Bravo had "indicated that he is no longer available to play cricket for the West Indies", a claim denied by the allrounder.

Bravo, who plays twenty20 cricket in Big Bash League, Pakistan Super League and Caribbean Premier League (CPL), will return to the Chennai Super Kings in IPL and said it was like coming back home for him.

"Coming back to CSK is like coming back home for me. We missed the IPL for the last two years. I was following the auction from Australia and I was hoping and praying that I would be picked by CSK. I'm very thankful to the management for showing a lot of faith in me," Bravo said.

"I enjoyed a good period of rest after playing in the Big Bash just to keep myself physically and mentally prepared to give my best to CSK. I enjoy my time in Chennai," he added.

Heaping praise on CSK captain Mahendra Singh Dhoni, Bravo said, "It is led by the best captain in the world. For me personally, CSK has done a lot and I would want to entertain the Yellow Army.

"I'm not under any pressure. This is the most experienced squad that we have. We have guys like Shane Watson, Jadeja and (MS) Dhoni. As 'captain cool' Dhoni keeps saying, pressure is something we have to embrace. I'm excited to work with the local young talent, especially the fast bowlers. I'm happy to be a part of very talented and also an experienced group.

Asked why West Indies cricketers do well in T20 leagues across the world, Bravo said the West Indies players fancy themselves in the shortest format.

"West Indian players fancy ourselves in the shortest format of the game. We play the game with the right spirit, attitude and flamboyance. We are natural entertainers and enjoy playing in these competitions. It is not just about playing tournaments but winning them as well."

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-the-world-cup-bravo/articleshow/63417892.cms
 
he failed last time he played, he is rubbish shouldn't be picked anyways..we can't compete with IPL atm neither we need to if PSL keeps improving our team and teams mentality as it has already done, we all will be really pleased with it, Indians enjoy their circus which goes on for an eternity let them enjoy it.
 
Deewana said:
he failed last time he played, he is rubbish shouldn't be picked anyways..we can't compete with IPL atm neither we need to if PSL keeps improving our team and teams mentality as it has already done, we all will be really pleased with it, Indians enjoy their circus which goes on for an eternity let them enjoy it.
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Yes IPL is circus but PSL is a real cricket. Sour Grapes:))
 
Abdullah719 said:
Hopefully I would get to play in the World Cup: Bravo

"I enjoyed a good period of rest after playing in the Big Bash just to keep myself physically and mentally prepared to give my best to CSK. I enjoy my time in Chennai," he added.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...-the-world-cup-bravo/articleshow/63417892.cms
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I would have given him the benefit of the doubt that he was injured, but that is a pretty damning statement. Based on this he shouldn't be considered for the PSL in the future. Him deciding to make himself unavailable so close to the tournament would have messed up Zalmi's plans.
 
He obviously isn't going to risk the IPL millions for the PSL. Franchises should aim to sign players who are fit and will be available for the full tournament.
 
Savak said:
PCB should think about hosting the PSL after the IPL. Best chance to get a better pool of foreign players. Given that we cant match the IPL in terms of Perks and Salaries, no foreign player will risk wear and tear, injury and risk missing the IPL.
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So if that happened we might see players faking injuries in IPL to save themselves for PSL..BCCI will never let that happened
 
MachoKhan said:
So he said he was unfit to play for peshawar zalmi but now hes ready to participate in IPL. Yes, money talks but this is pretty cheap from him. PSL should teach him a lesson and not select him at all
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Most posters here don't seem to get the idea.

"PSL" does not pick anyone. Nor does IPL. Teams get to pick players. This is not a centralized process that can be dictated to further the supposed interest of Pakistan cricket.
 
Straight from the horse's mouth. Is he bound to be paid anything by PSL this year?
 
Deewana said:
he failed last time he played, he is rubbish shouldn't be picked anyways..we can't compete with IPL atm neither we need to if PSL keeps improving our team and teams mentality as it has already done, we all will be really pleased with it, Indians enjoy their circus which goes on for an eternity let them enjoy it.
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Both of them are circus.
 
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Lol at his dream of playing for West Indies in the World Cup. The same guys who took West Indies to World Cup through qualifiers deserves to represent their non existent country in the world cup.
 
He was bought in the IPL for Rs 6.40 crores. That's $983680 (approx). That's a big, big amount. How much was he supposed to make from this year's PSL edition.
 
Deewana said:
he failed last time he played, he is rubbish shouldn't be picked anyways..we can't compete with IPL atm neither we need to if PSL keeps improving our team and teams mentality as it has already done, we all will be really pleased with it, Indians enjoy their circus which goes on for an eternity let them enjoy it.
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We know it hurts. You have our sympathies.
 
Hitman said:
He was bought in the IPL for Rs 6.40 crores. That's $983680 (approx). That's a big, big amount. How much was he supposed to make from this year's PSL edition.
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Its a simple financial decision. Thats it. Some posters on PP will thump their chests and show bravado, but the truth is out.

Jofra Archer may be a similar casem
 
cricketjoshila said:
Its a simple financial decision. Thats it. Some posters on PP will thump their chests and show bravado, but the truth is out.

Jofra Archer may be a similar casem
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Jofra might have have left psl to make up his English qualification requirement too.
 
Hitman said:
He was bought in the IPL for Rs 6.40 crores. That's $983680 (approx). That's a big, big amount. How much was he supposed to make from this year's PSL edition.
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He obviously thought it was enough to sign a contract. I have no idea whether he was fit or not, that's the club's responsibility to ensure they aren't giving out money to players who have no intention of playing.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
He obviously thought it was enough to sign a contract. I have no idea whether he was fit or not, that's the club's responsibility to ensure they aren't giving out money to players who have no intention of playing.
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Bias aside, it's definitely unethical, but then again he made the smart decision for himself from a financial standpoint.
 
Who cares as long as he wasn't paid? Get over it, Pakistanis. Focus on making PSL better and bigger and that in turn will change all such behaviors.
 
PSL should not compete with IPL and should have its own unique flavor. They should concentrate to include more raw Pakistani local talents and also more Afghan & other gulf players instead of even investing money on disinterested & below-par/retired international players! That way they can attract the neutrals with some exciting talents playing exciting cricket...
 
Some time ago he was good, more recently he has been poor. I cant believe anyone is still willing to pay such a has been.
 
1. If he/team management says he was unfit, just accept it and get over it.

2. He is paid way more in IPL and have been there for a decade or so, so for obvious reasons he wants to get fully fit for that.

3. He is well pass his best and will probably be a liability for CSK, so PSL did not miss anything good.
 
He still looked a bit unfit in the field (wasn’t as quick as he usually is) but it certainly didn’t impact his batting and bowling.
 
I think its about time that Pakistanis accept the fact that most cricketers will prefer IPL over PSL. It's a no-brainer for them and there is no point living in the land of delusion.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Lol at his dream of playing for West Indies in the World Cup. The same guys who took West Indies to World Cup through qualifiers deserves to represent their non existent country in the world cup.
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I understand where you're coming from but you pick your best XI in the world cup.
 
Pakistan has always been favourites to West Indians. Hence you cannot question their commitment to PSL. West Indians will go out of their way to support Pakistan like they have always done.

A lot of delusional Indian fans here who think money can buy love.
 
PSL owners need to have longer memories when selecting players in future.
 
Saj said:
PSL owners need to have longer memories when selecting players in future.
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Add Andre Russell to that list of seriously injured in PSL but ok to play in IPL list.
 
MenInG said:
Add Andre Russell to that list of seriously injured in PSL but ok to play in IPL list.
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Why do you guys still adamant on conspiracy theories?? Those are genuine injuries from what i could see.
 
This is just the start - if PCB keeps arranging PSL with Finals just 2 weeks before IPL, more and more players will play even safe with any minor injury.

Arrange PSL a week after IPL starts or take it to Aug-Sep start.
 
MMHS said:
This is just the start - if PCB keeps arranging PSL with Finals just 2 weeks before IPL, more and more players will play even safe with any minor injury.

Arrange PSL a week after IPL starts or take it to Aug-Sep start.
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What about BBL window?
 
Cricketers play the IPL and PSL for money. They will prioritise the tournament which pays more. Stop expecting loyalty - it's completely unjustified.
 
babajee said:
What about BBL window?
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May be, but that's busy season for PAK as well. But yes, from 20th Dec to next 5/6 weeks, it's possible- better than current timing. Crossing with BPL isn't suggested because that'll cost several PAK players BPL contract.
 
MMHS said:
This is just the start - if PCB keeps arranging PSL with Finals just 2 weeks before IPL, more and more players will play even safe with any minor injury.

Arrange PSL a week after IPL starts or take it to Aug-Sep start.
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Sri Lanka league will start during August and September. Also English T20 league is during that period .
 
shane said:
Cricketers play the IPL and PSL for money. They will prioritise the tournament which pays more. Stop expecting loyalty - it's completely unjustified.
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Agree.

If they have to be loyal to any league it must be the IPL.

Bravo has probably made a fortune of playing in the IPL for last 10 years.
 
Narine didnt look instrested in PSL. All in sudden his intensity went up 100 times in IPL.
 
Hasan123 said:
Sri Lanka league will start during August and September. Also English T20 league is during that period .
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EPL should end by July, or early August - it's an issue for IPL & EPL if top players play safe considering PSL is just after IPL or PSL - PCB can arrange PSL a week later IPL or EPL and put the players in limbo .....

If PSL & LPL cuts path and players opt to play LPL instead of PSL - that day PCB officials should come to office in shorts & "baniyan" and instead of using lap top on a work stations, they should seat on floor mats with their pen & paper.
 
Seems simple to me.. all the posters complaining would do the same... first up there is no loyalty to any league... its about where the money is at... pay them as much as ipl and everyone will be available.
 
He's rubbish and knows he's getting more in the IPL than he deserves, why risk anything? Fair enough in my opinion. It's more of a stupid decision from the teams that selected him.
 
Styarc and Rabada got themselves injured just before the IPL. Smith and Warner so scared of catching TB they literally got themselves banned! Oh the shame.
 
Don't agree with some people questioning people being injured in PSL but fit for IPL, the IPL just happened to be afterwards, I'm sure if the IPL was when the PSL was and vice versa, players would have missed IPL and played PSL. Let's be honest, most players don't give a damn about the team they're playing for, they just want the money. To be fair, it's hard to become loyal to one franchise/team seeing as players move around teams so much!
 
He flopped in the PSL, so doesn't matter if he plays or not. He can feast on the bowlers of IPL and score 20 ball 50s there.
 
MMHS said:
EPL should end by July, or early August - it's an issue for IPL & EPL if top players play safe considering PSL is just after IPL or PSL - PCB can arrange PSL a week later IPL or EPL and put the players in limbo .....

If PSL & LPL cuts path and players opt to play LPL instead of PSL - that day PCB officials should come to office in shorts & "baniyan" and instead of using lap top on a work stations, they should seat on floor mats with their pen & paper.
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The new English league won't start until mid July.
 
Not the players' fault but will be the fault of PSL franchises if they select these players again.
 
WengerOut said:
When is the rainy season in Pakistan? I can see that coinciding.
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forget about rain in pakistan especially in karachi and lahore where most probably next year's psl matches will held.. rainy season usually start here in june but most of the rainfall happens in islamabad/pindi and hilly areas..
 
Send1983 said:
Yes IPL is circus but PSL is a real cricket. Sour Grapes:))
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look at the impact psl is having on pakistan's cricket and compare it with any other league in the world.. no league has produced world class cricketers in such a small time period while psl gave us the likes of fakhar, shadab, faheem, ruman, hasan, shinwari, talat.. imagine if psl keep on bringing talent for pakistan like this in coming years, we'll be world class cricketing nation may be on par with the likes of england, saffers, oz..

p.s Please keep your ipl we dont need it.. we have psl which is growing faster than ever and you guys keep enjoying your scripted entertainment..
 
Hasan123 said:
He obviously isn't going to risk the IPL millions for the PSL. Franchises should aim to sign players who are fit and will be available for the full tournament.
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even retired foriegn players can do the job.. the main purpose of psl is to give younger talent a exposure to international cricket.. the experience these foreign players brings on the table will be priceless for the young guys.. and that'll do..
 
MoJoJoJo said:
look at the impact psl is having on pakistan's cricket and compare it with any other league in the world.. no league has produced world class cricketers in such a small time period while psl gave us the likes of fakhar, shadab, faheem, ruman, hasan, shinwari, talat.. imagine if psl keep on bringing talent for pakistan like this in coming years, we'll be world class cricketing nation may be on par with the likes of england, saffers, oz..

p.s Please keep your ipl we dont need it.. we have psl which is growing faster than ever and you guys keep enjoying your scripted entertainment..
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Still 7 in ODI and Test. Lol we are no 1 in both formats. We are no 3 in t20, will become no1 soon in that format as well.


Sour Grapes. :))

Yes your players don't need IPL. :)
 
HitWicket said:
The new English league won't start until mid July.
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Which means, it should end by late August - PSL can start from mid sep, which is good for uae or PAK (in terms of weather). On top of that CPL should end by then freeing PAK players.

My point was, among 12 months mid Feb was the worst possible time for starting PSL considering IPL starts within 2 weeks of PSL final - absolutely no surprise to me that PCB would pick exactly that period.

This is the same board that arranges FC cricket when 4-5 hours playing light is available, that too not every day with fog, smog, mist, rain ... while arrange PSL exactly when one shouldn’t.
 
MMHS said:
Which means, it should end by late August - PSL can start from mid sep, which is good for uae or PAK (in terms of weather). On top of that CPL should end by then freeing PAK players.

My point was, among 12 months mid Feb was the worst possible time for starting PSL considering IPL starts within 2 weeks of PSL final - absolutely no surprise to me that PCB would pick exactly that period.

This is the same board that arranges FC cricket when 4-5 hours playing light is available, that too not every day with fog, smog, mist, rain ... while arrange PSL exactly when one shouldn’t.
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By the way, I am not sure if it’s wise to start EPL cricket after mid July, which means more than half of the tournament will cut path with Barclays PL, European Qualifiers. My hunch is, it should start first week of July, may be just after All England Championship & British GP (F1) and end just before BPL Sunday (May be Saturday Final).
 
Non issue. Almost everyone will prioritize participation in the higher paying league.

PSL is establishing, it has to work with what's available.
 
Let him retire first. He will definitely play PSL after retirement as most of the old retired players are playing in it.
 
Spectrum said:
Let him retire first. He will definitely play PSL after retirement as most of the old retired players are playing in it.
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Old retired players such as BMAC who couldn't buy a run in the PSL but hit a 40 at 160SR in their first match of IPL this season.


:shh :shh :shh :shh :shh :shh :shh :shh
 
Yaah they use PSL as their practice session and perform in the best league of the world...
 
MoJoJoJo said:
even retired foriegn players can do the job.. the main purpose of psl is to give younger talent a exposure to international cricket.. the experience these foreign players brings on the table will be priceless for the young guys.. and that'll do..
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We don't want too many OAPs though. I would have a rule where you can't have more than 1 player over the age of 34.
 
Syed1 said:
Yes 2 innings of note in the 10 matches he played this season. Thanks for making my point for me.


:salute
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Then wait till he plays a few games in IPL. He may not last that long here. Here once he fails for a few games, we will start benching him. No way he would play entire league like he did in PSL if he performs as bad as he did in PSL. He is played as a pinch hitter here. Not the main batsman of the team.
 
jagatk said:
Remind me how many innings Baz has performed for in ipl.
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This season, played 1 - performed in 1.


In PSL this season played 10 - performed in 2.



Even a chest thumping Indian can tell which is the better ratio. Also my response was to the guy who said PSL is only comprised of over-aged has-beens but those same has-beens are playing and performing in the IPL. My mind can't compute as to why BMAC in PSL is bad, but BMAC in IPL is acceptable.
 
Syed1 said:
This season, played 1 - performed in 1.


In PSL this season played 10 - performed in 2.



Even a chest thumping Indian can tell which is the better ratio. Also my response was to the guy who said PSL is only comprised of over-aged has-beens but those same has-beens are playing and performing in the IPL. My mind can't compute as to why BMAC in PSL is bad, but BMAC in IPL is acceptable.
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Cant understand the logic behind ths
If Bmac failed to perform in PSL and Scored Runs in IPL thats mean PSL bowling attack is better
So one players performance will decide which league got better bowling attack
Form and Pitch make no sense
So if tomorrow Kohli Failed to perform against Zimbabwe and smacked Australian Bowling attack then by ur logic You will rate Zimbabwe bowling attack over Australian bowling attack
Ths reminds me of Great VVS laxman that guy used to play pretty average cricket against all the team but when It comes Australia he used to become Beast
Motivation to perform also dose matters alot
And Bmacs body language was pretty down IN PSL..seems he was jus playing for formality with no motivation watsoever...
 
Syed1 said:
This season, played 1 - performed in 1.


In PSL this season played 10 - performed in 2.



Even a chest thumping Indian can tell which is the better ratio. Also my response was to the guy who said PSL is only comprised of over-aged has-beens but those same has-beens are playing and performing in the IPL. My mind can't compute as to why BMAC in PSL is bad, but BMAC in IPL is acceptable.
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One game is not a good sample. He was just swinging blindly. Don’t think you watched the game. Don’t think he is going to last long here.
 
Decent player great six hitting ability but feasting on average bowlers he would not stand a chance against PSL/Pak pacers
 
Syed1 said:
This season, played 1 - performed in 1.


In PSL this season played 10 - performed in 2.



Even a chest thumping Indian can tell which is the better ratio. Also my response was to the guy who said PSL is only comprised of over-aged has-beens but those same has-beens are playing and performing in the IPL. My mind can't compute as to why BMAC in PSL is bad, but BMAC in IPL is acceptable.
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So we now compare ratios once it suits your agenda does it, he has played 1 innings comeback when he has a good IPL then your comparison is valid. Baz is a has been though PSL, IPL does not matter. I understand why IPL picks them, baz, gayle maybe has beens on the pitch but are worth the money in terms of popularity these are name IPL fans have seen play brilliantly over the years but in PSL that logic makes no sense.
 
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