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EASA lifts ban on PIA for flights to Europe [Post Updated #120]

Govt ‘actively engaged’ with UK to get PIA ban lifted: Dar

Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Ishaq Dar said on Saturday that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is “actively engaged” with UK authorities to secure the lifting of a ban on Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) flights.

He said this during a meeting with the airline’s chief executive, Air Vice Marshal Amir Hayat, who requested fresh diplomatic support to remove the long-running flight ban.

Mr Hayat appreciated the foreign minister’s continued support in helping to remove the ban on PIA flights to various countries.

He noted that compliance work begun under the Pakistan Democratic Movement (PDM) coalition government of 2022-23 enabled both PIA and the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) to satisfy International Civil Aviation Organisation auditors, paving the way for the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) to lift its own suspension in November 2024.

Flights to the UK and Europe were halted in June 2020 after then aviation minister told parliament that roughly one-third of the country’s commercial pilots held “dubious” licences — a statement made in the aftermath of the May 22, 2020, crash of Flight PK8303 in Karachi, which claimed 97 lives.

The UK Civil Aviation Authority suspended PIA’s operating permit on June 30 that year, mirroring EASA’s action a day earlier.

Regulators cited systemic failures in licensing oversight and airline safety management. The grounding deprived PIA of one of its most lucrative long-haul markets and cost nearly 40 billion a year in lost revenue, according to government records presented in parliament.

After three years of remedial work — ranging from re-validation of pilot credentials to overhauling safety protocols — EASA reinstated PIA’s Third-Country Operator authorisation on Nov 29, 2024.

Earlier this year, the carrier resumed flights to Paris and plans to add further European destinations this summer.

Power sector meeting

In a separate development, Mr Dar reaffirmed the government’s commitment to making balanced decisions that uphold financial discipline without imposing an undue burden on the public.

Mr Dar chaired a high-level meeting to review matters related to the power sector. The meeting was attended by the ministers for power and petroleum, Special Assistant to the Prime Minister Tariq Bajwa, and senior officials, according to a press release issued by the Deputy Prime Minister’s Office.

Discussions centred on key aspects of the power sector, with a focus on ensuring financial sustainability and consumer protection.

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PIA to resume UK operations in August following removal from UK Air Safety List

In a significant development for Pakistan’s aviation sector, the United Kingdom has officially removed Pakistan from its Air Safety List, paving the way for Pakistani airlines to resume flights to the UK. Following the development, sources told ARY News that Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) will operate its first flight to Manchester from Islamabad on August 14.

The announcement, made today by the UK’s Air Safety Committee, follows years of collaborative efforts between UK and Pakistani aviation authorities to address safety concerns and meet international standards.

The UK banned Pakistani carriers, including Pakistan International Airlines (PIA), from operating in its airspace in 2020, following concerns raised by the European Union Aviation Safety Agency (EASA). The decision stemmed from a 2020 investigation into pilot licensing irregularities in Pakistan, prompted by the tragic crash of PIA Flight 8303 in Karachi, which killed 97 people. The investigation revealed systemic issues, including fraudulent pilot credentials, leading to Pakistan’s inclusion on the UK Air Safety List and a similar EU ban.

Since then, the Pakistan Civil Aviation Authority (PCAA) has worked closely with international regulators, including the UK Civil Aviation Authority (CAA), to implement reforms. These efforts included overhauling licensing processes, enhancing safety oversight, and aligning with International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) standards. The UK Air Safety Committee, after years of engagement, has now deemed these improvements sufficient, allowing Pakistan’s removal from the list.


 
Credit to the government for getting the ban lifted, but personally I still wouldn’t fly with PIA. The quality just isn’t there, and I can’t stand 8-hour non-stop flights. I’d much rather have a break in between.
 
Credit to the government for getting the ban lifted, but personally I still wouldn’t fly with PIA. The quality just isn’t there, and I can’t stand 8-hour non-stop flights. I’d much rather have a break in between.
Why was there a ban? Who hired these pilots. Maybe you can give a background to the hiring of those pilots that led to the ban. Where did the PIA safety stand before the ban. Thanks in advance for your detailed explanation for the reasons
 
Credit to the government for getting the ban lifted, but personally I still wouldn’t fly with PIA. The quality just isn’t there, and I can’t stand 8-hour non-stop flights. I’d much rather have a break in between.
Can you also explain where the illegal hiring by the Nooras and PPP impacted the overall performance of PIA and its safety and how they compared with IKs tenure. I am sure you know all about those.
 
Why was there a ban? Who hired these pilots. Maybe you can give a background to the hiring of those pilots that led to the ban. Where did the PIA safety stand before the ban. Thanks in advance for your detailed explanation for the reasons

There was nothing wrong with the pilots it was fake news created by your party and false prophet that pia has fake pilots which caused the ban.

The karachi crash was a pilot and even before then you had foreign pilots flying for pia .

Both the pilots on the karachi flight were professional pilots the pilot himself sajjad gul was one of pias most experienced
 
Credit to the government for getting the ban lifted, but personally I still wouldn’t fly with PIA. The quality just isn’t there, and I can’t stand 8-hour non-stop flights. I’d much rather have a break in between.
So, rather than a direct 8 hour non stop flight. You'd prefer to have a 6 hour flight followed by a 4 hour flight going through the middle east with a stop over.

I don't care about quality or service. I want to reach the destination in the quickest time possible. So PIA every single time for me and pretty much everyone I know.
 
So, rather than a direct 8 hour non stop flight. You'd prefer to have a 6 hour flight followed by a 4 hour flight going through the middle east with a stop over.

I don't care about quality or service. I want to reach the destination in the quickest time possible. So PIA every single time for me and pretty much everyone I know.
So you'd rather have a terrible experience for 8 hours than a good experience for 10 hours. Out of curiosity are you a Shubhman Gill or PTI supporter?
 
There was nothing wrong with the pilots it was fake news created by your party and false prophet that pia has fake pilots which caused the ban.

The karachi crash was a pilot and even before then you had foreign pilots flying for pia .

Both the pilots on the karachi flight were professional pilots the pilot himself sajjad gul was one of pias most experienced
There was a huge problem and hopefully the UK authorities saw visible proof that the problem has been overcome.
 
So you'd rather have a terrible experience for 8 hours than a good experience for 10 hours. Out of curiosity are you a Shubhman Gill or PTI supporter?
Regarding the bolded portion, what?

Regarding the first part, it's not 8 hours vs 10 hours though is it? It's 8 hours on a single flight vs 10 hours across 2 flights + connecting time. So it's usually 8 hours vs 12/13/14/15/16 hours.

What quality of service do you get on Qatar/Emirates/Etihad/Turkish/Saudi etc that is so groundbreaking? I'm not saying PIA is good - just that I can deal with it for 8 hours.
 
Why was there a ban? Who hired these pilots. Maybe you can give a background to the hiring of those pilots that led to the ban. Where did the PIA safety stand before the ban. Thanks in advance for your detailed explanation for the reasons

Can you also explain where the illegal hiring by the Nooras and PPP impacted the overall performance of PIA and its safety and how they compared with IKs tenure. I am sure you know all about those.

Maybe start by asking Ghulam Sarwar Khan, and your party leaders they were the ones who played a direct role in getting PIA banned from international routes. It wasn’t some outsider or hidden enemy

This is the same party that asked overseas Pakistanis not to send remittances, knowing full well how much the country depends on that support.

When tensions flared between India and Pakistan, instead of standing with their own country, they were echoing narratives that openly favoured India. That’s not politics that’s betrayal, especially at a time when unity was needed most.

if I remember right you your self didn't back Pakistan and said this conflict was all a drama for personal gains for both parties.

we all saw what happened on 9th May and again in November 2024. That wasn’t protest that was chaos, violence, and a clear attempt to destabilise the country from within. Government buildings were attacked, institutions were targeted, and all of it was cheered on by the same leadership.

So before pointing fingers at others, take a hard look at your own party’s record, the damage wasn’t done by enemies, it was done by the very people claiming to “save” the country.
 
So, rather than a direct 8 hour non stop flight. You'd prefer to have a 6 hour flight followed by a 4 hour flight going through the middle east with a stop over.

I don't care about quality or service. I want to reach the destination in the quickest time possible. So PIA every single time for me and pretty much everyone I know.
Yeah,

I actually prefer having a break during long journeys get off the plane, have a smoke, grab something to eat, and then board the next leg. Sitting through 8-hour non-stop flights gets boring, especially if it’s with an uncomfortable airline like PIA.

I’ve also had long layovers, sometimes up to 36 hours, where I check out of the airport and spend time exploring the layover city.
 
There was a huge problem and hopefully the UK authorities saw visible proof that the problem has been overcome.
The problem with PTI is that they prefer airing their dirty laundry in public instead of actually addressing the issue. If there really was a problem, they had every opportunity to resolve it while they were in power but they chose to turn it into an international Tamasha.

PS: If PTI hadn’t gone down the point-scoring route, none of this would’ve happened. But in trying to score political points, they ended up getting PIA banned all at the country’s expense.
 
The problem with PTI is that they prefer airing their dirty laundry in public instead of actually addressing the issue. If there really was a problem, they had every opportunity to resolve it while they were in power but they chose to turn it into an international Tamasha.

PS: If PTI hadn’t gone down the point-scoring route, none of this would’ve happened. But in trying to score political points, they ended up getting PIA banned all at the country’s expense.
This is ridiculous (and I'm being kind).

PTI didn't air anything - the level of incompetence of our pilots was already visible for everyone to see. We have pilots who refused to follow instructions over and over and over. It was a terrible situation and with or without PTI it needed to be highlighted and addressed.
 
This is ridiculous (and I'm being kind).

PTI didn't air anything - the level of incompetence of our pilots was already visible for everyone to see. We have pilots who refused to follow instructions over and over and over. It was a terrible situation and with or without PTI it needed to be highlighted and addressed.
PTI remained in power for a solid two years after the PIA ban.

So, can you explain what steps they actually took to improve the aviation industry or reverse the international ban during that time?
 
Yeah,

I actually prefer having a break during long journeys get off the plane, have a smoke, grab something to eat, and then board the next leg. Sitting through 8-hour non-stop flights gets boring, especially if it’s with an uncomfortable airline like PIA.

I’ve also had long layovers, sometimes up to 36 hours, where I check out of the airport and spend time exploring the layover city.
I don't think you understand the type of passenger we're talking about here. It's mainly 1st and 2nd gen Pakistanis going to visit their immediate or extended families.

Most of the passengers want to get to the destination as quickly (mostly as cheaply) as possible.

You said PIA is uncomfortable - what exactly is so special about the other airlines? They have the same legroom. The offer the same mass produced food. The entertainment systems are usually terrible on PIA, but you can easily counter that by bring your own tablet/phone/laptop onboard.

8 hours, of which 4 hours is usually passed through sleeping. So you're really left with 3-4 hours to pass time.
 
I’d rather swim to Pakistan. These corrupt clowns have put peoples lives at risk. Only when these criminals die will pia improve
 
PTI remained in power for a solid two years after the PIA ban.

So, can you explain what steps they actually took to improve the aviation industry or reverse the international ban during that time?
I'm not saying the PTI did or didn't. I'm also not saying PLMN fixed/broke it.

It is collective systematic failure. Decades of corruption led to the Karachi crash.
 
I’d rather swim to Pakistan. These corrupt clowns have put peoples lives at risk. Only when these criminals die will pia improve
I wish that BA or Virgin offered direct flights to Lahore. Currently only BA have a direct flight to Pak (LGW to ISB). But since there is isn't - I will use the next available airline that has direct flights.
 
So you'd rather have a terrible experience for 8 hours than a good experience for 10 hours. Out of curiosity are you a Shubhman Gill or PTI supporter?
when you have kids, 8 hours is bliss. Went via BA man>lhr>isb, they don't leave much time to transfer. direct from manchester is much better. plus travelling with apnay, you dont have to deal with snooty airline staff or qatar airways habibi "Abdulkareem Ismaeil" passengers of the world
 
PTI remained in power for a solid two years after the PIA ban.

So, can you explain what steps they actually took to improve the aviation industry or reverse the international ban during that time?
sunlight is the best disinfectant, they shone light on the shortcomings. the accountability institutions had to make moves to increase safety as their bottom line was being hit. what else could pti do, thats the remit of the CAA regulators
 
I don't think you understand the type of passenger we're talking about here. It's mainly 1st and 2nd gen Pakistanis going to visit their immediate or extended families.
Most of the passengers want to get to the destination as quickly (mostly as cheaply) as possible.

Sorry mate, you need to be clearer in your post about which type of passengers you're referring to.
You said PIA is uncomfortable - what exactly is so special about the other airlines? They have the same legroom. The offer the same mass produced food. The entertainment systems are usually terrible on PIA, but you can easily counter that by bring your own tablet/phone/laptop onboard.

8 hours, of which 4 hours is usually passed through sleeping. So you're really left with 3-4 hours to pass time.

I’m not sure if you’ve ever flown with PIA, but to begin with the seats are extremely uncomfortable and dirty, especially when compared to airlines like Turkish, Qatar, or Emirates. at least the seats with other airlines are my cushy

The entertainment system feels like it’s straight out of the 80s. Honestly, I don’t think anything has been updated since I first flew with them in the 90s same uncomfortable seats, outdated screens, and a painfully boring selection of entertainment.

less spoken about the food the better it goes straight back to the air hostess other airlines have a better variety and taste
 
sunlight is the best disinfectant, they shone light on the shortcomings. the accountability institutions had to make moves to increase safety as their bottom line was being hit. what else could pti do, thats the remit of the CAA regulators
its better to lead by example if you can't then PTI and it followers need to be :shh
 
I wish that BA or Virgin offered direct flights to Lahore. Currently only BA have a direct flight to Pak (LGW to ISB). But since there is isn't - I will use the next available airline that has direct flights.

I think its just a matter of time. VA did for a while but have stopped now for some reason.

THe last time I took a PIA flight was from Karachi to ISB. The air conditioning didnt work at all, no tv's as usual, the planed hadnt even been cleaned properly. If such basic things arent working there is a good chance something serious isnt working either. It should be renamed Russian Roulette Airlines.
 
when you have kids, 8 hours is bliss. Went via BA man>lhr>isb, they don't leave much time to transfer. direct from manchester is much better. plus travelling with apnay, you dont have to deal with snooty airline staff or qatar airways habibi "Abdulkareem Ismaeil" passengers of the world
Maybe it’s just you, but I’ve never had any issues with other airlines. I’ve travelled three times last year and already twice this year without a problem. As for transfer times, that’s really up to you, you can go for a shorter or longer layover. I usually choose something between 2 to 4 hours so I have enough time to step out for a smoke and grab a halal McDonald’s before catching the next flight.
 
Maybe it’s just you, but I’ve never had any issues with other airlines. I’ve travelled three times last year and already twice this year without a problem. As for transfer times, that’s really up to you, you can go for a shorter or longer layover. I usually choose something between 2 to 4 hours so I have enough time to step out for a smoke and grab a halal McDonald’s before catching the next flight.
I've been on various (turkish airlines being worst), emirates, turkish, BA, except for qatar. Been going with PIA multiple times, all pretty cool, no ego flights from manchester. Would never go on internal flights in pakistan as the safety is not as good as international standards plus the planes used on internal flight are old etc
 
I think its just a matter of time. VA did for a while but have stopped now for some reason.

THe last time I took a PIA flight was from Karachi to ISB. The air conditioning didnt work at all, no tv's as usual, the planed hadnt even been cleaned properly. If such basic things arent working there is a good chance something serious isnt working either. It should be renamed Russian Roulette Airlines.
That's a domestic flight - domestic flights in Europe also don't have entertainment systems. I travel to mainland Europe regularly and none of the airlines have entertainment for short distance or domestic flights. That includes KLM, Air France, SAS and others I've flown.

VA won't ever come back now. PIA will fill the gap and even BA's direct flight will probably end.
 
That's a domestic flight - domestic flights in Europe also don't have entertainment systems. I travel to mainland Europe regularly and none of the airlines have entertainment for short distance or domestic flights. That includes KLM, Air France, SAS and others I've flown.

VA won't ever come back now. PIA will fill the gap and even BA's direct flight will probably end.

It depends on the aircraft, yes smaller planes have no screens but biggers are fitted with screens. I was on a large PIA plane with screens, every single one was damaged/broken. Here is a plane has a screen it works, regardless of Int or domestic.

Im happy with Qatar and Emirates, I also get to stay in Dubai or Doha for a couple of days. Or will use Saudi Airlines and visit Mecca for a couple of days.
 
Maybe it’s just you, but I’ve never had any issues with other airlines. I’ve travelled three times last year and already twice this year without a problem. As for transfer times, that’s really up to you, you can go for a shorter or longer layover. I usually choose something between 2 to 4 hours so I have enough time to step out for a smoke and grab a halal McDonald’s before catching the next flight.
Would you agree that a large % of passengers on PIA flights to Pakistan are VFR (visiting friends and family)? If you agree, then I think you'll also understand why these passengers won't to have the shortest journey possible.

I've been on many airlines like you and my best experiences have been with VA. But frankly, I'm prepared to compromise on quality for that saved time.
 
I’m not sure if you’ve ever flown with PIA, but to begin with the seats are extremely uncomfortable and dirty, especially when compared to airlines like Turkish, Qatar, or Emirates. at least the seats with other airlines are my cushy

The entertainment system feels like it’s straight out of the 80s. Honestly, I don’t think anything has been updated since I first flew with them in the 90s same uncomfortable seats, outdated screens, and a painfully boring selection of entertainment.

less spoken about the food the better it goes straight back to the air hostess other airlines have a better variety and taste
Prior to the ban, I always flew PIA. Now that the ban is lifted I will not only travel with PIA, I will travel more frequently.

Let me put it into countext why for me it's a no brainer and why for the majority of Pakistanis who are VFR (visiting friends and family).

Option 1: PIA (Total travel time ~17 Hours ~£500).

  • Drive to Airport = 2 Hours
  • Time are Airport = 3 Hours
  • Flight = 8 Hours
  • Time at Airport = 1 Hour
  • Time to home in Pakistan = 3 Hours
Option 2: Qatar/Saudi/Emirates/Etihad etc etc (Total travel time ~23 Hours ~550).

  • Drive to Airport = 2 Hours
  • Time are Airport = 3 Hours
  • Flight = 14 Hours
  • Time at Airport = 1 Hour
  • Time to home in Pakistan = 3 Hours
PIA will be cheaper, it has always been but even if PIA was the same price I would still pick it because of the many hours of travel time.

Your argument is that PIA has bad quality and service. But for me and many others, it doesn't matter.

That is why PIA will succeed with the re-introduction of these flights.
 
It depends on the aircraft, yes smaller planes have no screens but biggers are fitted with screens. I was on a large PIA plane with screens, every single one was damaged/broken. Here is a plane has a screen it works, regardless of Int or domestic.

Im happy with Qatar and Emirates, I also get to stay in Dubai or Doha for a couple of days. Or will use Saudi Airlines and visit Mecca for a couple of days.
I understand and I'm not disputing your view. But most other passengers are travelling to VFR. So connecting flights and stay overs are irrelevant. Then it comes to price vs quality vs duration - in that trade off most passengers travelling to Pak will choose PIA.
 
I understand and I'm not disputing your view. But most other passengers are travelling to VFR. So connecting flights and stay overs are irrelevant. Then it comes to price vs quality vs duration - in that trade off most passengers travelling to Pak will choose PIA.

I realise this, my point was when on an airline , numerous things are broken , surely the plane, crew and the maintenance people cant be trusted to safely transport you in the air!

Not to mention the food is disgusting, the seats are unclean some of the staff are rude or clueless. PIA has no right to charge up towards £1k for a return flight from the UK
 
I realise this, my point was when on an airline , numerous things are broken , surely the plane, crew and the maintenance people cant be trusted to safely transport you in the air!

Not to mention the food is disgusting, the seats are unclean some of the staff are rude or clueless. PIA has no right to charge up towards £1k for a return flight from the UK
Agree with everything regarding quality and service. But it still wouldn't persuade me to use another airline. With a family (3 young kids) the most important thing for me is getting to the destination as quick as possible.

My last visit to Pak was at the start of this year through Saudi and Qatar. By the end of the both journeys we were absolutely fed up. It didn't matter to me one iota whether the entertainment system was good/operational or not. I just wanted the journey to be over.
 
Agree with everything regarding quality and service. But it still wouldn't persuade me to use another airline. With a family (3 young kids) the most important thing for me is getting to the destination as quick as possible.

My last visit to Pak was at the start of this year through Saudi and Qatar. By the end of the both journeys we were absolutely fed up. It didn't matter to me one iota whether the entertainment system was good/operational or not. I just wanted the journey to be over.

Makes sense, it depends on what your main needs are . But those who choose PIA should know beforehand of the risk they are taking and also the poor service they will be offered. Hopefully the UK will ensure all planes are fully maintained and checked properly before taking off.
 
Bolded was my surprise at that statement. Cannot compare any of those airlines to PIA come on bro, like comparing @Bhaag Viru Bhaag and @mominsaigol as posters or comparing 1st world America and 3rd world India for quality of life. Two completely different classes.
I agree, you cannot compare the quality or service. But you can compare flight duration and price. In that comparison it's easy win for PIA, they're usually cheaper and they are definitely faster.
 
Maybe start by asking Ghulam Sarwar Khan, and your party leaders they were the ones who played a direct role in getting PIA banned from international routes. It wasn’t some outsider or hidden enemy

This is the same party that asked overseas Pakistanis not to send remittances, knowing full well how much the country depends on that support.

When tensions flared between India and Pakistan, instead of standing with their own country, they were echoing narratives that openly favoured India. That’s not politics that’s betrayal, especially at a time when unity was needed most.

if I remember right you your self didn't back Pakistan and said this conflict was all a drama for personal gains for both parties.

we all saw what happened on 9th May and again in November 2024. That wasn’t protest that was chaos, violence, and a clear attempt to destabilise the country from within. Government buildings were attacked, institutions were targeted, and all of it was cheered on by the same leadership.

So before pointing fingers at others, take a hard look at your own party’s record, the damage wasn’t done by enemies, it was done by the very people claiming to “save” the country

Oh of course, Ghulam Sarwar was just sipping chai while the fake licenses magically issued themselves. Totally unrelated to the same noble souls who heroically appointed thousands of people illegally—pure coincidence. But sure, just ignore the 2014 IHC decision, because who needs facts when you’ve got blind conviction, unashamed beghairati.


And wow, hats off to you,really trying to give credit for "solving" a problem that was cooked up by Noora and PPP in the first place. That’s like stabbing someone and then demanding a medal because, hey, they didn’t die. Inspirational stuff.


As for the conflict, let’s all just marvel at how NS and his dear mother, sorry, daughter have maintained such a dignified silence while Pakistani soldiers are killed and the water treaty’s basically trashed. But no, not a peep. Punjab’s directly hit, but hey, silence is golden when Modi is your house guest and personal relationship are on the line and put ahead of PKs interest.


And the way you bend over backwards to defend actual criminals while attacking IK—who got the nation to rally behind the Airforce while sitting in jail thanks to those very same criminals—well, that’s just next-level beghairati. Even the DGISPR praised the PTI social media teams. But where were you guys?


Oh and 9th May? Please, spare us. Still waiting for that pesky little thing called CCTV footage. Who needs evidence when you have your criminal judges, you can just lie and hope no one notices the gaping holes in your story are wider
 
Oh of course, Ghulam Sarwar was just sipping chai while the fake licenses magically issued themselves. Totally unrelated to the same noble souls who heroically appointed thousands of people illegally—pure coincidence. But sure, just ignore the 2014 IHC decision, because who needs facts when you’ve got blind conviction, unashamed beghairati.


And wow, hats off to you,really trying to give credit for "solving" a problem that was cooked up by Noora and PPP in the first place. That’s like stabbing someone and then demanding a medal because, hey, they didn’t die. Inspirational stuff.


As for the conflict, let’s all just marvel at how NS and his dear mother, sorry, daughter have maintained such a dignified silence while Pakistani soldiers are killed and the water treaty’s basically trashed. But no, not a peep. Punjab’s directly hit, but hey, silence is golden when Modi is your house guest and personal relationship are on the line and put ahead of PKs interest.


And the way you bend over backwards to defend actual criminals while attacking IK—who got the nation to rally behind the Airforce while sitting in jail thanks to those very same criminals—well, that’s just next-level beghairati. Even the DGISPR praised the PTI social media teams. But where were you guys?


Oh and 9th May? Please, spare us. Still waiting for that pesky little thing called CCTV footage. Who needs evidence when you have your criminal judges, you can just lie and hope no one notices the gaping holes in your story are wider
oh stop crying your tantrums are just childish now :shh
 
oh stop crying your tantrums are just childish now :shh
Answer thr points. Under whose govt were the illegal appointments made, and under whose govt were the pilots given these illegal licenses. You have a habit of lying and then running off. Let's see you show some backbone.
 
Answer thr points. Under whose govt were the illegal appointments made, and under whose govt were the pilots given these illegal licenses. You have a habit of lying and then running off. Let's see you show some backbone.
No, not at all.

Without your usual PTI cheerleading routine, you’re irrelevant on this forum. no need to give you attention
 

PIA plans UK flights from Aug 14​


The government said on Tuesday that the new buyer of the Pakistan International Airlines would require investing up to Rs70 billion in the loss-making airline over a period of five years but final investment needs would be assessed only after the audited accounts are available next month.

Privatisation Commission secretary Usman Bajwa said that the new investors would require to invest Rs60 billion to Rs70 billion over the five years. He made the statement during a meeting of the Senate Standing Committee on Privatization, which was chaired by Senator Dr Afnan Ullah Khan of the PML-N.

Usman Bajwa said that new investment will be aimed at financial recovery, operational improvements, and increasing the fleet size.

During the last failed attempt to privatise PIA, the government set the investment limit at $300 million and the new limit appeared on the lower side compared to the last time. One of the possible reasons can be the assumption of improved profitability due to opening of international routes to Europe and the United Kingdom and tax exemptions on lease of aircraft.

Usman Bajwa said that PIA has decided to start flights to Manchester from August 14 after the United Kingdom lifted a ban on PIA flights. The ban had been imposed after the last PTI government claimed that the PIA pilots had bogus degrees.

The advisor to Prime Minister on Privatisation Muhammad Ali said after the meeting that the airlines total investment requirements would be assessed once the audited financial accounts for end June period are available by mid of next month.

The Secretary Privatisation said that there were security concerns regarding PIA's North America routes but efforts were underway to address and clear these concerns.

The investor will retain 85% of the bid amount to invest the money in the airline. The government will get only 15% of the bid money.

The PIA fleet age has also risen to 18 and a half years and the new investor would have to double the fleet within five years, said the secretary. The CEO of PIA said early this month that the airline was currently flying 19 aircraft.

Source: https://tribune.com.pk/story/2557395/pia-plans-uk-flights-from-aug-14
 
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