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“We’re aware of New Zealand’s decision to pull out of the Pakistan tour due to a security alert. We are liaising with our security team who are on the ground in Pakistan to fully understand the situation. The ECB Board will then decide in the next 24-48 hours whether our planned tour should proceed.”
 
This will be incredibly interesting to see. If England choose to tour in spite of what happened i'll be shocked.
 
For all I care they can all withdraw.

At this point, we should just keep inviting other teams and whoever tours us, we should tour them.

For others, we should stop touring them till they tour us.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
For all I care they can all withdraw.

At this point, we should just keep inviting other teams and whoever tours us, we should tour them.

For others, we should stop touring them till they tour us.
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We don’t make an ounce of difference to the world if we tour or do not tour. If we exist or do not exist. It’s a harsh reality
 
Very interesting. But its just 2 T20s so the threat perception can be managed.
They would have been wiser to not decide immediately. Why this 24 - 48 hr self imposed deadline ?
Tour is in oct.
 
They will not tour

You heard it here first. Would happily be wrong
 
Pakistan has 24-48 hours to prepare an alternative venue
 
Rana said:
We don’t make an ounce of difference to the world if we tour or do not tour. If we exist or do not exist. It’s a harsh reality
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It actually does make a difference as other countries and board naturally like to host countries and earn money. How many tours Ind, Aus, NZ and Eng can have between them? Pak adds much more viewership and series value then some other options available outside.

Even if somehow it doesnt make a difference, no point in keep earning money for other boards who are not going to help PCB earn the same.
 
If ECB don’t tour, then PCB must take strict action. We done so much for them and they can’t abandoned us.
 
I think a more befitting thread title should be 'England to announce withdrawal from Pakistan tour in the next 24-48 hours'

Pure madness to go there if you ask me. We should tour India instead.
 
Matty said:
I think a more befitting thread title should be 'England to announce withdrawal from Pakistan tour in the next 24-48 hours'

Pure madness to go there if you ask me. We should tour India instead.
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But, why are armies including of Eng are mad enough to stay as a guest there for the time being. Also why cant Eng pull them out of Afg themselves rather than sending them to a dangerous place like Pak? Are lives of soldiers that fight for supposedly your country dont hold any value?
 
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Titan24 said:
It actually does make a difference as other countries and board naturally like to host countries and earn money. How many tours Ind, Aus, NZ and Eng can have between them? Pak adds much more viewership and series value then some other options available outside.

Even if somehow it doesnt make a difference, no point in keep earning money for other boards who are not going to help PCB earn the same.
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My friend

Sooner rather than later, incidents like this will kill the remaining loyalists of Pakistan cricket. The fact that we are practically losing 80% of our fixtures on tour has done plenty of damage as it is. I honestly have not felt this devastated as a Pakistan fan since 2009.

What is sad about all of this is, there is absolutely nothing to go by on paper to suggest Pakistan is unsafe. But the word of the white man and his government has practically ended our International cricket.
 
Just invite Sri Lanka for 3 odis and 7 t20s. You won’t get rubbish like this from them.
 
Pakistan should tour NZ and withdraw citing security concern on the day of the match. These people take the P**s I am sorry to say. They need to be taught the same way and then see their re-action.
 
Rana said:
My friend

Sooner rather than later, incidents like this will kill the remaining loyalists of Pakistan cricket. The fact that we are practically losing 80% of our fixtures on tour has done plenty of damage as it is. I honestly have not felt this devastated as a Pakistan fan since 2009.

What is sad about all of this is, there is absolutely nothing to go by on paper to suggest Pakistan is unsafe. But the word of the white man and his government has practically ended our International cricket.
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I think teams which Pak has already hosted like Srl, BD, WI, SA, Zim and quite a few players who play in PSL can still keep on coming. PSL 7 will be held in Pakistan and we will see quite w few foreign players. So its definitely not equivalent to 2009 when clearly Pak’s mishandled things. Pak has done everything right here.

If some teams still dont want to come you have negotiate with them in a language suitable for the things in play.
 
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Rudi hater said:
Pakistan should tour NZ and withdraw citing security concern on the day of the match. These people take the P**s I am sorry to say. They need to be taught the same and then see their re-action.
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As if PCB can resist a tour of New Zealand. They would never walk away from paid holidays down under
 
It's basically a time interval given to soften the blow for PCB when ECB announce their decision.
 
The funny thing is

NZ will probably have a ‘walk away’ clause in its agreements to host Pakistan in the future. Hence any misadventures by the PCB on tour will be fully insured and the PCB will be the one recompensing the NZCB
 
Dr_Bassim said:
For all I care they can all withdraw.

At this point, we should just keep inviting other teams and whoever tours us, we should tour them.

For others, we should stop touring them till they tour us.
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Either that or the alternative is to do what the Americans do with their sports - create a World Series Test Cricket league with only local teams from Pakistan and play with each other.

What’s the point of playing international cricket with 7 out of 9 teams refuse to visit your country to play cricket and all the top teams refuse to host you at home for a proper full test series, instead you fill in the small gaps in their cricket calendar here and there in between other big teams.

And in any case, It’s not like the cricket on display by the current lot , Babar Azam aside, is of good enough standard. As it stands , there’s embarrassment and humiliation off the field and to say on the field also is an understatement.
 
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Majid Khan said:
Either that or the alternative is to do what the Americans do with their sports - create a World Series Test Cricket league with only local teams from Pakistan and play with each other.

What’s the point of playing international cricket with 7 out of 9 teams refuse to visit your country to play cricket and all the top teams refuse to host you at home for a proper full test series, instead you fill in the small gaps in their cricket calendar here and there in between other big teams.

And in any case, It’s not like the cricket on display by the current lot , Babar Azam aside, is of good enough standard. As it stands , there’s embarrassment and humiliation off the field and to say on the field also is an understatement.
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I’m pretty sure this is the least of our concerns right now..

Even if we were ranked 10th most fans would do anything to watch / turn up if their team playing at home.
 
Very sad day in Pak cricket.

NZ government could have postponed this match until further evidence was provided.

Just hope ECB remember who toured in Covid times last year.
 
If England does not tour either. Then Pakistan should boycott the world cup twenty20. No need to participate in such an event. Total boycott.
 
rockyboy2018 said:
If England does not tour either. Then Pakistan should boycott the world cup twenty20. No need to participate in such an event. Total boycott.
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Pull out of the game with India before the toss. They always make us play India in the WC for the views, love to make money off us don't they.
 
NZ agencies will share the info with British security that got tour cancelled at last moment.
Now if after seeing that threat info even if ECB cancel...then I guess the logical deduction would be it was a threat that was serious and thankfully a tragedy has been avoided
 
Apparently the intelligence on which New Zealand based their decision came from England. If England were in possession of that intelligence, why didn't they alert the Pakistan Security Agencies and the Prime Minister. Secondly, why didn't England call off their tour immediately since they were in possession of this information? The truth of this situation will never trickle its way to the fans, maybe not even to the Cricket Board. But there are long-term steps that we can take. Of course they are easier said than done, and in fact have never been done before in Pakistan.

1. The PCB must lose the apologetic tone that has existed within the Board from decade. Of course when you are an instrument of the government, that apologetic tone will permeate within your offices and subsequently on the world stage. We can be friendly and firm at the same time.

2. The PCB must get its house in order. Pakistan must start winning games on the field and the Board must become best in class. Pakistan is looked down on for many reasons. Two of those reasons are our negligible performance on the field and a Cricket Board generally made up of compromised individuals, appointed rather than hired.

3. Pakistan must push forward as a country. We must educate our people as a national emergency, which will bring equality and quality in our society. Think about some of the people that have infiltrated Pakistan Cricket over the years. They seem to have jobs for life even though there record is devoid of performance. Why? Because they are the rich and powerful in our society and always have been. What can change that? The rise of a new power center can change that. Although partially off topic, it is the reason why the rise of the Pakistani startup is so important. Not only will it help the economy, it will generate a new power center that hopefully can fight against the old boy network in Pakistan.

Disclaimer: I acknowledge the last piece of this is a little idealistic.
 
British intelligence is lightyears ahead of NZs.

If ECB decide to tour, it’ll be egg on the faces of the Kiwi government, and RAW.
 
Technics 1210 said:
British intelligence is lightyears ahead of NZs.

If ECB decide to tour, it’ll be egg on the faces of the Kiwi government, and RAW.
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But the doubt has already been sown into the minds of the likes of Morgan, Curran etc. They will not tour, it might have to be a British Asian XI that tours Pakistan.

Maybe Bopara, Panesar, Samit Patel and a few others will be back in England colours.
 
Considering both countries use the same guys for security advice. This is done.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
It's probably British intelligence which is prodding NZ to pull out.
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True that - what with 5 eyes & everything. Dont think NZ have the standalone intelligence network capable of ferreting out threats in another region. If thats the case, its curtains for the English series too.

I am not concerned with English series getting cancelled (afterall only 2 measly T20s), but the optics of it does reflect badly.
 
It wouldn't be surprising if ECB pull out of the tour and Pakistan go into the T20WC unprepared.
 
Why decide in the next 48 hours, they can decide right up until they are due to leave for the tour which is when?
 
Matty said:
I think a more befitting thread title should be 'England to announce withdrawal from Pakistan tour in the next 24-48 hours'

Pure madness to go there if you ask me. We should tour India instead.
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You just toured us for 4 Tests, 3 ODIs and 5 T20s. We just toured you back for 4 Tests.
 
Even if England do decide to tour, it means nothing. The (unpunished)precedent set by the NZCB means a team could abandon a tour 10 minutes before the first match of the tour.

We are doomed
 
If the decision was made in Washington DC, England won't come . India will be happy to host them instead.
 
New Zealand gov will not be happy with UK gov if English team comes, that would be a big embarrassment for NZL.
 
Rana said:
Even if England do decide to tour, it means nothing. The (unpunished)precedent set by the NZCB means a team could abandon a tour 10 minutes before the first match of the tour.

We are doomed
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You should be happy though. This last minute cancellation should give you a series whitewash via forfeiture. Losing to NZ C team at home would have destroyed whatever morale this team has left. I think this is quite a blessing for Pakistan cricket!
 
Rana said:
But the doubt has already been sown into the minds of the likes of Morgan, Curran etc. They will not tour, it might have to be a British Asian XI that tours Pakistan.

Maybe Bopara, Panesar, Samit Patel and a few others will be back in England colours.
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Morgan is a mercenary. The guy pulled out of Bangladesh tour due to security reasons but was happy to tour India in 2010 when bombs went off outside Indian stadiums. Ironic given he is from Ireland.
 
Pakistan is not safe to tour anymore. ECB should make the sensible call and withdraw from this tour.
 
moghul said:
New Zealand gov will not be happy with UK gov if English team comes, that would be a big embarrassment for NZL.
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I seriously doubt the NZ government cares what their decision is. They made a decision about what was in the best interests of NZ citizens once they were made aware of some news about the security of the NZ team.
 
I think England Team will come In Sha Allah.apprently the decision was based upon source from England.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Morgan is a mercenary. The guy pulled out of Bangladesh tour due to security reasons but was happy to tour India in 2010 when bombs went off outside Indian stadiums. Ironic given he is from Ireland.
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Very well said, but Morgan has left his roots along time ago :afridi
 
Rana said:
But the doubt has already been sown into the minds of the likes of Morgan, Curran etc. They will not tour, it might have to be a British Asian XI that tours Pakistan.

Maybe Bopara, Panesar, Samit Patel and a few others will be back in England colours.
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Do you mean to say that the life of Morgan and Curran is worth more than Bopara or Panesar or Patel?
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Do you mean to say that the life of Morgan and Curran is worth more than Bopara or Panesar or Patel?
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See here is the problem.


I didn’t say that. What I did mean to say is that there are those who are more keen to abandon in comparison to others.

I stand by what I say, don’t care how you or others interpret it.
 
Build a new secure stadium with a hotel, make departments for vetting/aerial/crowd control/use counter terror tech/ have choppers standby. It should meet requirements of the US President. Couple 100 mil,can happen within a year. Onus in on you, but thats how you should approach this.
 
Rana said:
My friend

Sooner rather than later, incidents like this will kill the remaining loyalists of Pakistan cricket. The fact that we are practically losing 80% of our fixtures on tour has done plenty of damage as it is. I honestly have not felt this devastated as a Pakistan fan since 2009.

What is sad about all of this is, there is absolutely nothing to go by on paper to suggest Pakistan is unsafe. But the word of the white man and his government has practically ended our International cricket.
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No, meek boards like New Zealand still need the viewership from PCB, especially since PSL viewership numbers and the viewership of our national team are increasing.

Maybe larger boards like ECB and CA might not need as much of this viewership, but a board like New Zealand, who was struggling financially within just 6 months of the pandemic cannot pick and choose who they tour and who they don't.

Had Pakistan not toured New Zealand, they would have faced considerable revenue losses, mostly seen with the fact that their players must participate in the IPL above all to make money since their national salaries are nothing to write home about.
 
As per some news channels Pakistan has been taken out of travel red list. Not sure if it will play a role in the recent tour but, a development worth mentioning.
 
PakEngFan said:
Just invite Sri Lanka for 3 odis and 7 t20s. You won’t get rubbish like this from them.
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Sri Lanka is totally broke at the moment.Zero foreign exchange. If Pakistan cricket board picks up the tab for their trip , they might come.
But with t20 world cup about to start , teams might not like to expose their players to the wuhan virus by traveling.
Also the new Zealanders have postponed their trip not cancelled it outright.
The Pakistani authorities should not worsen the situation by loose talk.
 
drubwrubnat said:
Build a new secure stadium with a hotel, make departments for vetting/aerial/crowd control/use counter terror tech/ have choppers standby. It should meet requirements of the US President. Couple 100 mil,can happen within a year. Onus in on you, but thats how you should approach this.
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This is actually a good suggestion. Pakistan needs to build stadiums with on site hotels like Old Trafford or Ageas Bowl. Can bypass a lot of security difficulties.
 
drubwrubnat said:
Build a new secure stadium with a hotel, make departments for vetting/aerial/crowd control/use counter terror tech/ have choppers standby. It should meet requirements of the US President. Couple 100 mil,can happen within a year. Onus in on you, but thats how you should approach this.
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What video game is that ?

They did not leave for security reason, its a political game .

If they don;t want to come, they will find a new excuse.
 
Mamoon said:
Pakistan is not safe to tour anymore. ECB should make the sensible call and withdraw from this tour.
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crazy, non-sense statement.
after recent events in Afghanistan , Pakistan is safer than ever before. There is no pro-Indian regime there now .
 
Get ready for more bad news. I hope I am wrong but I think ECB will also cancel their tour.
 
Why would they withdraw? Kiwis have always been extra cautious, look at their response to one covid case.
 
Sorry to say this but white people stick together in things like this. As soon as one white nation pulls out, the others will follow.
 
I think whether or not they decide to tour is a moot point; the precedent has been set and the England team could withdraw after the toss for all we know. We’ll be on pins and needles going forward until the match actually starts.
 
It will not surprise me if the the phone call for the threat is originated form India.... and if it is originated from india .... what will the kiwis say then.....
 
Ramiz Raja and Wasim Khan should fly to England to salvage the England Tour. They have to be proactive to influence them.
 
I hope that whatever this security threat, if even it were a credible threat, is provided to the government so that they can act on it.

Keeping us in the dark for longer is intentionally jeopardizing the tour of England.
 
Boycottisno2 said:
It will not surprise me if the the phone call for the threat is originated form India.... and if it is originated from india .... what will the kiwis say then.....
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Only if it were that simple.So are you telling me the counter intelligence of IsI which I have been told multiple times on this forum is not even a contest for raw and is way better than CIA and mossad couldn’t stop a single random phone call from India to the Nzl team management?

I mean if a random poster can predict this from happening that India would sabotage this tour, then I am sure intelligence agencies could do the same.
 
I am 100% sure England are not coming. I would dearly like to be wrong on this but I will very surprised if England came,
 
Aman said:
I seriously doubt the NZ government cares what their decision is. They made a decision about what was in the best interests of NZ citizens once they were made aware of some news about the security of the NZ team.
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And how about the best interests of pakistan and its cricket? How about communicating the threats with the host board and allowing a joint statement to be released or are the hosts not worthy of dialogue or discussion?
 
Karachi: Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB)’s CEO, Wasim Khan is optimistic over England touring Pakistan next month for T20Is in Rawalpindi.

England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB)’s spokesperson said that they are liaising with its security team after New Zealand unilaterally canceled Pakistan tour due to a security alert.

“England are coming for a very short tour and I hope they keep an open mind. We will speak to them in the next 48 hours. They will go through their own processes. I would be disappointed if they pull out but it is a decision for the ECB to make,” Wasim Khan.

It must be noted that England will play two T20Is at the Pindi Cricket Stadium in Rawalpindi on 13 and 14 October.

England women team will also play as many T20Is against Pakistan women on the same day. Both teams will arrive in Islamabad on October 9.

The men’s squad will depart for Dubai for T20 World Cup on 15 October while women will stay back for the three ODIs to be played on 17, 19 and 21 October.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Speculation that British High Commission was involved in PakvsNZ tour being called off are untrue; this was a decision for the New Zealand authorities & taken independently. I recognise that this is a sad day for cricket fans in &#55356;&#56821;&#55356;&#56816; & around &#55356;&#57101; who were looking fwd to the series</p>— Christian Turner (@CTurnerFCDO) <a href="https://twitter.com/CTurnerFCDO/status/1438864939347812355?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
English team is not coming, ECB is the one who forward the false intel to NZ govt ......
 
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