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Enjoy it before the shirk/bidda crowd come to rain on the parade.
See? Didn't take long at all did it?
Its a question, which I will repeat once more....try answering with little less condescension.
Where did the third Eid come from? I only know of two.
No condescension intended.
As for where it came from, I wouldn't know, since I don't celebrate it. Those who do can answer better.
From what little I've read/heard, as long as nothing haram is part of it, there shouldn't be any issues coming up with events/celebrations that have no precedence in the prophetic tradition. I'll be interested in reading the debate though.
You can read this thread .This debate is going on from last two three years on Pakpassion.
http://www.pakpassion.net/ppforum/showthread.php?t=117720&highlight=Milad&page=4
As for this "celebration", people may think it's harmless BUT it's not
Just because something is not "haram" doesn't mean it can't come under the banner of biddah
I think the fact the the prophet (PBUH) didn't celebrate this "Eid" tells you all about it, nor did the companions of the prophet (PBUH) celebrate it, nor did the immediate descendants
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Enjoy it before the shirk/bidda crowd come to rain on the parade.
I only know two eids....
When did the third one come about?
If you don't celebrate it then why even mention shirk/biddah, are you trying to create problems?
No, just giving the ol' pot a good stir. It's fun.
I don't celebrate it (or celebrate much of anything for that matter) but I support others' right to do so. And it irks me that the ones who cry shirk/bidda at anything will have people stop.
And as I've stressed before, I'm no expert at it but from what I've read, there's nothing wrong with it theologically speaking.
Don't waste your time with them then, absolute Jahils you ask them meaning of the Shirk or biddah and they post videos.
Well maybe that just points to your lack of knowledgeIts a question, which I will repeat once more....try answering with little less condescension.
Where did the third Eid come from? I only know of two.
Last year I was invited to a Muslim friend's place on 25th December.
They cut a cake and offered me a piece, I asked what was it about?
He replied, "Aaj Hz Eesa ki saalgirah hai tou hum wo celebrate kar rahay hain".
I only know two eids....
When did the third one come about?
Milad un Nabi, being the birthday of the Prophet, is THE most important eid for Muslims.
I wish everyone Milad un Nabi mubarak.
Does anybody else celebrate it outside of desi communities?
i think its celebrated in middle east as well. Only Israel and saudi arabia doesnt recognise it.We don't celebrate. Wahabi Muslims and few other sects do not celebrate it.
Mainly its a Barelwi Sect thing.
We don't celebrate. Wahabi Muslims and few other sects do not celebrate it.
Mainly its a Barelwi Sect thing.
Why not?
faraz39;8986761 May Allah send his peace said:Allah Huma Aameen.
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He is not our master. Allah (swt) is our master.From someone far wiser and knowledgeable than us all -- Imam Suhaib Webb:
"One of the major causes of intolerance amongst us - even bloodshed in some cases - is the religiously untrained who, due to their lack of knowledge and experience, confuse fiqh with shariah, imposing on us what does not need to be imposed, or neglecting an issue that demands observance.
Shariah consists of non-negotiable commands and prohibitions: faith, prayers and honesty, while Fiqh represents a scholar's understanding of rulings and commands, gleaned from acceptable sources. Examples of fiqh are where to place your hands in prayer, the number of rakat for taraweeh, issues surrounding divorce, organ donation and things like the mawlid. Yes, the mawlid!
Imām al-Shāfi stated that issues of fiqh should be addressed with sincere discussions and respect - "No one should force a person to accept the former's opinion." That was the logic adopted by main stream Islam until around two hundred yeas ago. I'm by no means saying things were always perfect. But in general, things ran pretty smooth.
For those, like myself, who celebrate the mawlid - a practice of FIQH, observed by the majority of the four Sunni and Shia schools and the Sunni and Shia populace throughout our history, we cringe at the intolerance of some who, in their passion, seem to forget the principles mentioned above, and engage other Muslims with distain and disrespect.
May Allah send his peace, blessings and our love to our master, Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم"
He is not our master. Allah (swt) is our master.
Master- a man who has people working for him, especially servants or slaves.
ex: "he acceded to his master's wishes".
synonyms: lord, overlord,
https://www.google.com/#q=master+definition
It is important to realize that while we should remember the birth of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), we shouldn't make this day as important as some make it out to be.
Is it Islamically wrong to call Holy Prophet as
" AAQA O MATAH "
?
Not sure what means.
But anyway, look at the definition for "master"; It is clearly not a name we should attribute to him(pbuh) going by that particular definition. A better thing to say would be "Leader of Our Ummah" or "Intercessor between us and God".
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We don't celebrate. Wahabi Muslims and few other sects do not celebrate it.
Mainly its a Barelwi Sect thing.
Absolute rubbish. It is celebrated in every Muslim country in the world apart from Saudi Arabia - even there a lot of the ordinary people celebrate it (quietly to escape the wrath of the extreme Wahabbis).
It's a national holiday in a lot of Muslim countries including the UAE.
Milad Mubarak to all.
The meaning should be taken in context.
On the google search you shared, the second definition of master is this: A man in charge of an organisation or group, in particular.
That is probably a more applicable meaning of the usage of "Master" in this situation.
I guess it's quite similar to referring to Muhammad (SAW) as the leader of the Ummah. The master/slave relationship is obviously not an appropriate way to interpret the term in this case.
We don't celebrate. Wahabi Muslims and few other sects do not celebrate it.
Mainly its a Barelwi Sect thing.
What is Barelwi sect? Why are you mis-informing people?
You need to travel outside sub-continent and see how people celebrate the noble birth of the LAST Prophet (saw).
This is a big day in countires like Yemen, Syria, Egypt, Morocco to mention some.
What is Barelwi sect? Why are you mis-informing people?
You need to travel outside sub-continent and see how people celebrate the noble birth of the LAST Prophet (saw).
This is a big day in countires like Yemen, Syria, Egypt, Morocco to mention some.
Bilkul meinay tou dehleez se bahar qadam nai rakha. Abi pangoorhay mein hun.
Allah hoo Akbar
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your response is ridiculous, isn't it ? you were claiming it is mainly a barelvi thing and that means only in Pak and India but when questioned about it you are showing videos that say" why not to celebrate"? [MENTION=18398]IAJ[/MENTION] was not writing theology to get in this discussion. He only denied your assumption that it is a barelvi thing.I thought It was simple to comprehend.
Enjoy it before the shirk/bidda crowd come to rain on the parade.
But correct me if I'm wrong, I read somewhere that establishing a good practice has a reward. I would think that this qualifies.
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now again you are sharing some theological discussion to celebrate or not to celebrate.I am not arguing about its validity nor did [MENTION=18398]IAJ[/MENTION] argued . how difficult it is to understand?
you claimed it is mainly barelwi thing while it is not .Almost all Muslim world celebrates it.
This Sunday in my home town.
Pasti e Zouq : Javed Ahmad
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Who are the ppl at the front of the crowd & why are they draped in flower necklaces?
I don't celebrate Milad because I don't feel comfortable with the practise. All I can say is my heart and conscience for whatever reason don't accept it, Allah knows best. I don't have a problem when certain members of my immediate family attend such gatherings, they're not answerable to me. It's a grey area that is better not discussed unless real experts on Islam are amongst us who can give conclusive evidence either way. From my understanding the Prophet(saw) did not celebrate his birthday, will not say it's "shirk" just because I disagree with it. Arguing over such trivial matters only causes further disarray amongst the Muslim family already in a chaotic situation. Celebrate it if you want whilst respecting those who don't as well as the other way round. There are supposedly lot worse and better things Muslim people around the world do. My salvation does not depend celebrating Milad.
I don't celebrate Milad because I don't feel comfortable with the practise. All I can say is my heart and conscience for whatever reason don't accept it, Allah knows best. I don't have a problem when certain members of my immediate family attend such gatherings, they're not answerable to me. It's a grey area that is better not discussed unless real experts on Islam are amongst us who can give conclusive evidence either way. From my understanding the Prophet(saw) did not celebrate his birthday, will not say it's "shirk" just because I disagree with it. Arguing over such trivial matters only causes further disarray amongst the Muslim family already in a chaotic situation. Celebrate it if you want whilst respecting those who don't as well as the other way round. There are supposedly lot worse and better things Muslim people around the world do. My salvation does not depend celebrating Milad.
This is in Nigeria....over 3 million celebrating the Milad of best of mankind.
If we go with that logic then the prophet also caused disarray amongest the families.
When you speak the truth it will cause disarray.
Even the hard core supporters of Milad agree that neither prophet has done it nor the companions.
Now , suppose we do it , it means one of the two things. First , the prophet knew about this but intentionally did not tell us.
Second , the prophet did not know it but the scholars who initiate it know this.
So , which is true? In both cases it is major sin .
I celebrate it by giving charity in our Beloved Prophets name. If you dont celebrate it then that it is your problem, let me live with my sin. But as your second post suggests( "they consider him to be liar") your not one of us. But Allah knows best
Brother I am not here to comment individually , I am here to speak about doctrine.
Many Muslims go and bow down to graves. You can do whatever you want , no one can stop you.
When you say that it is part of Islam on a social forum , then I have right to give evidence against it in a respectful manner. That is what I have done.
Yes , if you have evidence to back your action , you are welcome to share it here .
Thank You.
Firstly, i have never heard of any Muslim even using the words liar and our beloved Prophet in the same sentence. As far a your position is concerned then that is fine but its an opinion and i have no problem with it. But yours isnt the only opinion so you to yours and me to mine.
Pointless annual debate. Never ending.