Electric car

[gazza619]

After much contemplation, I've finally decided to switch to an EV. The tipping point came when my scamming BMW garage presented me with an estimated repair bill of £2,000. I thought to myself, "Enough is enough!" I can no longer justify these exorbitant costs.

Luckily, my employer offers an EV salary sacrifice scheme, which includes insurance and maintenance costs. This turns out to be quite a good deal. Given this, I'm eager to hear from anyone who has experience with EVs. Have you found them to be cost-effective in the long run? Any insights or tips would be greatly appreciated as I navigate this new territory.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and experiences.

 

[hks222]

I dont find them practical with range of around 300-600km.

 

[gazza619]

I dont find them practical with range of around 300-600km.

While I agree that the range can be a point of consideration, in a relatively small country like England, it might not pose as significant of an issue.

Of course, it largely depends on one's average mileage. For instance, when I travel to work, I typically cover around 60 miles. On the other hand, when visiting relatives in another city, my journey can extend up to 270 miles.

I believe with proper planning and the increasing availability of charging points, we can manage these journeys efficiently.

 

[hks222]

While I agree that the range can be a point of consideration, in a relatively small country like England, it might not pose as significant of an issue.

Of course, it largely depends on one's average mileage. For instance, when I travel to work, I typically cover around 60 miles. On the other hand, when visiting relatives in another city, my journey can extend up to 270 miles.

I believe with proper planning and the increasing availability of charging points, we can manage these journeys efficiently.

I have never been to or lived in UK.

For Pakistan - they are useless.

 

[sweep_shot]

I don't like EVs currently. I don't think you can rely on these cars if you are having long drives.

I prefer regular non-electric cars (as of now).

 

[Technics 1210]

After much contemplation, I've finally decided to switch to an EV. The tipping point came when my scamming BMW garage presented me with an estimated repair bill of £2,000. I thought to myself, "Enough is enough!" I can no longer justify these exorbitant costs.

Luckily, my employer offers an EV salary sacrifice scheme, which includes insurance and maintenance costs. This turns out to be quite a good deal. Given this, I'm eager to hear from anyone who has experience with EVs. Have you found them to be cost-effective in the long run? Any insights or tips would be greatly appreciated as I navigate this new territory.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and experiences.

Wait till you get the repair bill for an EV.

Don’t do it.

EV isn't taking off, atleast in the UK, where they’ve realised an investment upwards of £300 BILLION is needed just to upgrade the national Grid infrastructure, and then the cost to generate the electricity - which will most likely be fossil fuels!

This is why then ban on petrol cars was moved to, 2035 from 2030.

 

[ElRaja]

i went down the salary sacrifice route a few years ago, as a petrol head, former bmw owner, who loves ice cars, unless you do 200 mile round trips regularly an electric car beats an ICE car every day of the year. its not even a contest, minimal maintainence, quiet and calm performance, charge it at home over night pay off peak electricity rates, once u get used to the plug and play practicality of an electric car, you cant go back to ice as a daily driver imo.

and this is with electric cars having fairly nascent technology, however the existing car industry is in trouble because none of them can compete with the battery performance of chinese brands, once chinese brands get their driving dynamic on point, and cater their aesthetics to eueopean tastes better, itll be game over for a lot of legacy car makers.

my contract runs out in about ten months, and ill be looking to replace one electric for another when the time comes, get the range up over 400 miles, and charging times under ten minutes, which will be the case by 2027 if not next year, and ice engines will be done as the mainstream drivetrain.

the downside is zero emotional engagement, my car is like an appliance, which get the job done with minimal fuss, but with salary sacrifice it is a zero brainer, esp if you want a new car.

 

[gazza619]

Wait till you get the repair bill for an EV.

Don’t do it.

EV isn't taking off, atleast in the UK, where they’ve realised an investment upwards of £300 BILLION is needed just to upgrade the national Grid infrastructure, and then the cost to generate the electricity - which will most likely be fossil fuels!

This is why then ban on petrol cars was moved to, 2035 from 2030.

Thanks for your input. In my case the maintenance costs is included in the monthly lease payment though.

 

[gazza619]

i went down the salary sacrifice route a few years ago, as a petrol head, former bmw owner, who loves ice cars, unless you do 200 mile round trips regularly an electric car beats an ICE car every day of the year. its not even a contest, minimal maintainence, quiet and calm performance, charge it at home over night pay off peak electricity rates, once u get used to the plug and play practicality of an electric car, you cant go back to ice as a daily driver imo.

and this is with electric cars having fairly nascent technology, however the existing car industry is in trouble because none of them can compete with the battery performance of chinese brands, once chinese brands get their driving dynamic on point, and cater their aesthetics to eueopean tastes better, itll be game over for a lot of legacy car makers.

my contract runs out in about ten months, and ill be looking to replace one electric for another when the time comes, get the range up over 400 miles, and charging times under ten minutes, which will be the case by 2027 if not next year, and ice engines will be done as the mainstream drivetrain.

the downside is zero emotional engagement, my car is like an appliance, which get the job done with minimal fuss, but with salary sacrifice it is a zero brainer, esp if you want a new car.

That sounds really interesting ! Could you share which EV you currently have? I'm also curious to learn which model you're considering as your next car.

 

[LordJames]

i went down the salary sacrifice route a few years ago, as a petrol head, former bmw owner, who loves ice cars, unless you do 200 mile round trips regularly an electric car beats an ICE car every day of the year. its not even a contest, minimal maintainence, quiet and calm performance, charge it at home over night pay off peak electricity rates, once u get used to the plug and play practicality of an electric car, you cant go back to ice as a daily driver imo.

and this is with electric cars having fairly nascent technology, however the existing car industry is in trouble because none of them can compete with the battery performance of chinese brands, once chinese brands get their driving dynamic on point, and cater their aesthetics to eueopean tastes better, itll be game over for a lot of legacy car makers.

my contract runs out in about ten months, and ill be looking to replace one electric for another when the time comes, get the range up over 400 miles, and charging times under ten minutes, which will be the case by 2027 if not next year, and ice engines will be done as the mainstream drivetrain.

the downside is zero emotional engagement, my car is like an appliance, which get the job done with minimal fuss, but with salary sacrifice it is a zero brainer, esp if you want a new car.

Hate them!
Hate the idea of them!

A few years Hertz kept on trying to give me a Tesla and I refused because of the range, they would offer me all sorts of discounts and there used to be loads of these Tesla's and nobody wanted them

Then Hertz sold them at a loss

Hertz's Tesla Fire Sale Continues As Depreciation Costs Mount

Hertz's Tesla-induced depreciation costs continue to mount, and the rental car agency plans to have sold more than 30,000 EVs by the end of 2024.

insideevs.com

After much contemplation, I've finally decided to switch to an EV. The tipping point came when my scamming BMW garage presented me with an estimated repair bill of £2,000. I thought to myself, "Enough is enough!" I can no longer justify these exorbitant costs.

Luckily, my employer offers an EV salary sacrifice scheme, which includes insurance and maintenance costs. This turns out to be quite a good deal. Given this, I'm eager to hear from anyone who has experience with EVs. Have you found them to be cost-effective in the long run? Any insights or tips would be greatly appreciated as I navigate this new territory.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and experiences.

Went in the back of my local Nissan dealer and then there are rows and rows of Leafs with battery issues. 18K for Battery (under warranty) and if warranty is out you might as well scrap the car!

 

[Rballer1]

After much contemplation, I've finally decided to switch to an EV. The tipping point came when my scamming BMW garage presented me with an estimated repair bill of £2,000. I thought to myself, "Enough is enough!" I can no longer justify these exorbitant costs.

Luckily, my employer offers an EV salary sacrifice scheme, which includes insurance and maintenance costs. This turns out to be quite a good deal. Given this, I'm eager to hear from anyone who has experience with EVs. Have you found them to be cost-effective in the long run? Any insights or tips would be greatly appreciated as I navigate this new territory.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and experiences.

I had BMW I4 one of the first ones when it got into EV market. Beautiful car, zero practicality. I was only getting stares when I would go to work but the range was such anxiety inducing that I dumped it within few months. I live in a really cold place so any EV is horrible investment.

I switched to Model Y. Range of about 320 miles but in winters it goes down to 260 miles on 95%. I have level II home charger so I charge it every night. I drive a lot for work. My electric bill went up to $450 per month. I had to change tires one time which cost me about $1200 for all 4.

All in all, low maintenance. But range goes down dramatically in snowy winter conditions. If you are going to drive in inner city then it might serve you well. With snow, it comes with other problems as well. The regenerative braking is horrible on slippery roads.

 

[LordJames]

People with a Brain

People without a Brain

 

[Technics 1210]

Thanks for your input. In my case the maintenance costs is included in the monthly lease payment though.

Theres a video of a Tesla customer who burned his car live after receiving a $30K quote to replace the battery. Lots of similar stories circa £15K!

Tax breaks on EV cars are ending soon too, and before that EV cars will be paying the congestion charge in London I think from 2026.

You dont know how good a car is until something goes wrong.

Proper horror stories where EV drivers had minimal charge, no charge nearby, had to shutdown most electrics (music, AC, fan etc) and still fail to get home.

When the big car manufacturers bail on their EV projects, you know EV isn't taking off. It was all hype.

EV is over 100 years old in the UK, and the sole reason it will never take off is because oil giants will lose out - Oil is here to stay as are ICE cars, or it will mean the instant death of the PetroDollar.

 

[ElRaja]

That sounds really interesting ! Could you share which EV you currently have? I'm also curious to learn which model you're considering as your next car.

i have a polestar 2, with the autopilot add ons. i got it cos the interior was really nice, only qualm is the interior is really difficult to keep clean, and my mum complains the ride in the back is rough but ive never sat in the back so have no idea, lol, but thats pbly why i wont get a polestar 3 or 4 both of which i really liked.

ive also driven a friends eqs suv, pbly one of the most comfortable cars ive been in, and the eqs saloon which had a gorgerous interior, but both are way out of my budget. im not certain on what ill go for, ive got a few months to decide, maybe an SUV so my old parents have ease getting in and out.

 

[Suleiman]

Not a fan personally unless living in a city where their charging stations are readily available. Aesthetics wise most aren’t my style unless it’s the OG Tesla model S or that Porsche electric or hybrid, Taycan think it was

But congrats on your purchase bruv

 

[Technics 1210]

The second hand car market is flooded with EVs, the majority who bought them, do not want them!

 

[LordJames]

Theres a video of a Tesla customer who burned his car live after receiving a $30K quote to replace the battery. Lots of similar stories circa £15K!

Tax breaks on EV cars are ending soon too, and before that EV cars will be paying the congestion charge in London I think from 2026.

You dont know how good a car is until something goes wrong.

Proper horror stories where EV drivers had minimal charge, no charge nearby, had to shutdown most electrics (music, AC, fan etc) and still fail to get home.

When the big car manufacturers bail on their EV projects, you know EV isn't taking off. It was all hype.

EV is over 100 years old in the UK, and the sole reason it will never take off is because oil giants will lose out - Oil is here to stay as are ICE cars, or it will mean the instant death of the PetroDollar.

Where are you guys getting tax breaks on EV? Which country? England is too small so nobody drives a lot there anyways so fuel is cheap @KingKhanWC

i have a polestar 2, with the autopilot add ons. i got it cos the interior was really nice, only qualm is the interior is really difficult to keep clean, and my mum complains the ride in the back is rough but ive never sat in the back so have no idea, lol, but thats pbly why i wont get a polestar 3 or 4 both of which i really liked.

ive also driven a friends eqs suv, pbly one of the most comfortable cars ive been in, and the eqs saloon which had a gorgerous interior, but both are way out of my budget. im not certain on what ill go for, ive got a few months to decide, maybe an SUV so my old parents have ease getting in and out.

I am old and my mother is even older and need help getting in and out of a car with my old bones

 

[Technics 1210]

Where are you guys getting tax breaks on EV? Which country? England is too small so nobody drives a lot there anyways so fuel is cheap @KingKhanWC


I am old and my mother is even older and need help getting in and out of a car with my old bones

Yes tax breaks in UK.

Electric Car Tax Benefits Explained | Kia UK

We explore the various electric car tax benefits available to individuals and companies and why EVs are an economical choice.

www.kia.com

The link explains it better.

 

[hks222]

Not a fan personally unless living in a city where their charging stations are readily available. Aesthetics wise most aren’t my style unless it’s the OG Tesla model S or that Porsche electric or hybrid, Taycan think it was

But congrats on your purchase bruv

Its only good for ladies driving in city or people who use car just for 9-5 office commute.

 

[hks222]

Hybrid gasoline vehicles are better honestly.

 

[ElRaja]

Where are you guys getting tax breaks on EV? Which country? England is too small so nobody drives a lot there anyways so fuel is cheap @KingKhanWC


I am old and my mother is even older and need help getting in and out of a car with my old bones

if i lived in america id own a ram 3500, it was my dream car rumaging through old motor trend and car and driver magazines as a kid in pakistan

 

[LordJames]

if i lived in america id own a ram 3500, it was my dream car rumaging through old motor trend and car and driver magazines as a kid in pakistan

Terrible truck, outdated interior with lots of mechanical and electrical problems.

Go with a F-150 Raptor

 

[ElRaja]

Terrible truck, outdated interior with lots of mechanical and electrical problems.

Go with a F-150 Raptor

dont ruin my dream man, come on, its not like im gonna buy one anytime soon.

lol

 

[Suleiman]

if i lived in america id own a ram 3500, it was my dream car rumaging through old motor trend and car and driver magazines as a kid in pakistan

Me as a kid lol.

Now that same zeal has translated into muscle cars and post fast and furious era into JDM

 

[ElRaja]

Me as a kid lol.

Now that same zeal has translated into muscle cars and post fast and furious era into JDM

dont mention japan, i remember when u could get a mint toyota supra TT mk4 for under £10,000. that was my dream japanese car as a kid. twin turbo, 8 lights on the back, a giant spoiler, those were the days.

 

[hks222]

Nothing beats the driving pleasure of good old Mercedes.

I would still get a E-Class over any electric.

 

[ElRaja]

Nothing beats the driving pleasure of good old Mercedes.

I would still get a E-Class over any electric.

i drove an e250d through the welsh mountains last month, one of my favourite driving experiences, although not so much for my passengers in the rainy changeable weather, lol. so planted, so direct, you can feel the weight, but it never seemed lazy through the corners.

 

[LordJames]

Hybrid gasoline vehicles are better honestly.

Not if you drive long distances, Hybrids are designed to brake and charge and won't work on highway miles

dont mention japan, i remember when u could get a mint toyota supra TT mk4 for under £10,000. that was my dream japanese car as a kid. twin turbo, 8 lights on the back, a giant spoiler, those were the days.

I was looking at these and they are seriously overpriced because of the movie...

 

[hks222]

i drove an e250d through the welsh mountains last month, one of my favourite driving experiences, although not so much for my passengers in the rainy changeable weather, lol. so planted, so direct, you can feel the weight, but it never seemed lazy through the corners.

BMW is even better in corners.

But the ride quality in mercedes is insane.

I have E250 W212 - what an elegant ride, its best thing in my life honestly.

 

[LordJames]

BMW is even better in corners.

But the ride quality in mercedes is insane.

I have E250 W212 - what an elegant ride, its best thing in my life honestly.

I also think that the ride quality of an E-Class is way better than a BMW while the BMW corners better.

There is nothing comparable to a Mercedes in long distance driving.

 

[hks222]

I also think that the ride quality of an E-Class is way better than a BMW while the BMW corners better.

There is nothing comparable to a Mercedes in long distance driving.

True.

Seating, interior elegance, ride balance and driving comfort is beyond imagination.

Mercedes is a true driver's car - sort of thing that would make you wish to live a day more just so you're able to drive it.

MB is class-apart.

 

[LordJames]

True.

Seating, interior elegance, ride balance and driving comfort is beyond imagination.

Mercedes is a true driver's car - sort of thing that would make you wish to live a day more just so you're able to drive it.

MB is class-apart.

Many younger guys won't get this until you are older and your bones creak

 

[shaz619]

After much contemplation, I've finally decided to switch to an EV. The tipping point came when my scamming BMW garage presented me with an estimated repair bill of £2,000. I thought to myself, "Enough is enough!" I can no longer justify these exorbitant costs.

Luckily, my employer offers an EV salary sacrifice scheme, which includes insurance and maintenance costs. This turns out to be quite a good deal. Given this, I'm eager to hear from anyone who has experience with EVs. Have you found them to be cost-effective in the long run? Any insights or tips would be greatly appreciated as I navigate this new territory.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts and experiences.

2k bill? what was that for brother & the engine number ?

If there’s a very complicated job that needs to be completed or doing an oil change, I get that you need to go to the dealer, but for everything else just use an indie garage.

If you’re a car lover, I will say don’t do it. I would cry in an EV every time it moves without making a sound, and the whir of the electric motor just makes me physically sick.

I have a BMW to, but it’s an N52 powered NA straight 6 with no turbos to worry about, it is arguably the best non-M engine ever made, I got the car right at the bottom of its depreciation, and I’ve done research into all the potential issues, but it’s generally considered reliable, I am good at troubleshooting but not exactly the most mechanically inclined and I’ve been ok so far mA, granted, a 20 year vehicle does psychologically feel as though it is getting on a bit, but boy is it glorious to drive & I can get 40mpg on a very long run. Just showing you that there are always solutions out there and it doesn’t need to be EV.

If it was my only car I’d keep it forever, but I will be looking for something newish so I can focus on another project in the long run.

Our government is delusional and so is woke EU with the OPF and all the emissions regs, not everyone can charge at home either & the type of shift we’d need before we all go EV is immense, I don’t know why we’ve not invested enough in synthetic fuels because this is the way for me, we’re big on it in aerospace and car manufacturers such as Porsche & Toyota realise its value but most manufacturers have bent the knee to clueless governments.

Cut your losses if it’s that bad & get another ICE, it’s part & parcel of the ownership + emotional connection, with an EV it wont be the same and not like that will be completely expense and problem free.

 

[shaz619]

I also think that the ride quality of an E-Class is way better than a BMW while the BMW corners better.

There is nothing comparable to a Mercedes in long distance driving.

Mercedes unfortunately are not what they use to be & BMW have caught up when it comes to luxury and comfort, even the more sporty cars such as M340i, with adaptive suspension & non-run flats you’re fine. The cars they make now are more refined than ever, but at the expense of driver engagement. Mercedes got rid of the V8 The C63 was such an iconic car.

 

[gazza619]

2k bill? what was that for brother & the engine number ?

If there’s a very complicated job that needs to be completed or doing an oil change, I get that you need to go to the dealer, but for everything else just use an indie garage.

If you’re a car lover, I will say don’t do it. I would cry in an EV every time it moves without making a sound, and the whir of the electric motor just makes me physically sick.

I have a BMW to, but it’s an N52 powered NA straight 6 with no turbos to worry about, it is arguably the best non-M engine ever made, I got the car right at the bottom of its depreciation, and I’ve done research into all the potential issues, but it’s generally considered reliable, I am good at troubleshooting but not exactly the most mechanically inclined and I’ve been ok so far mA, granted, a 20 year vehicle does psychologically feel as though it is getting on a bit, but boy is it glorious to drive & I can get 40mpg on a very long run. Just showing you that there are always solutions out there and it doesn’t need to be EV.

If it was my only car I’d keep it forever, but I will be looking for something newish so I can focus on another project in the long run.

Our government is delusional and so is woke EU with the OPF and all the emissions regs, not everyone can charge at home either & the type of shift we’d need before we all go EV is immense, I don’t know why we’ve not invested enough in synthetic fuels because this is the way for me, we’re big on it in aerospace and car manufacturers such as Porsche & Toyota realise its value but most manufacturers have bent the knee to clueless governments.

Cut your losses if it’s that bad & get another ICE, it’s part & parcel of the ownership + emotional connection, with an EV it wont be the same and not like that will be completely expense and problem free.

I visited the dealership for brake pad replacement and brake fluid maintenance. Initially, I was quoted around £340 for the service, which I was prepared for. However, while enjoying the complimentary mocha from their coffee machine, I was approached by a customer service representative who presented a long list of additional repairs, including brake discs and suspension, totalling over £2,000.

The representative claimed this was a discounted price with a dodgy smile, but I declined the additional costs. He mentioned that the brake fluid had already been changed, so I agreed to proceed with that only. He then offered to speak with his manager to reduce the price, but returned with an £1,800 bill, which I also declined.

I left the dealership feeling quite frustrated. I drive a 2016 BMW 2 Series 220d with approximately 70,000 miles on it, and I am quite attached to the car, which is why I have always deferred the thought of replacing it. As I was leaving, I decided to take two complementary cold drinks from their fridge, which made me feel slightly better

 

[hks222]

Mercedes unfortunately are not what they use to be & BMW have caught up when it comes to luxury and comfort, even the more sporty cars such as M340i, with adaptive suspension & non-run flats you’re fine. The cars they make now are more refined than ever, but at the expense of driver engagement. Mercedes got rid of the V8 The C63 was such an iconic car.

W213 is still a pretty solid car although I agree that older Mercedes were something else.

BMW offers alot of fun though. My F30 has crazy driving road stability which I don't expect in any E-Class.

 

[shaz619]

I visited the dealership for brake pad replacement and brake fluid maintenance. Initially, I was quoted around £340 for the service, which I was prepared for. However, while enjoying the complimentary mocha from their coffee machine, I was approached by a customer service representative who presented a long list of additional repairs, including brake discs and suspension, totalling over £2,000.

The representative claimed this was a discounted price with a dodgy smile, but I declined the additional costs. He mentioned that the brake fluid had already been changed, so I agreed to proceed with that only. He then offered to speak with his manager to reduce the price, but returned with an £1,800 bill, which I also declined.

I left the dealership feeling quite frustrated. I drive a 2016 BMW 2 Series 220d with approximately 70,000 miles on it, and I am quite attached to the car, which is why I have always deferred the thought of replacing it. As I was leaving, I decided to take two complementary cold drinks from their fridge, which made me feel slightly better

340 for a full service or just an oil change? if it’s an oil change that is a little bit pricey, do you normally use them, any other dealer nearby?

Discs/pads front + rear can add up to like £1k, don’t ever go to a dealer for wear/tear, worst case if you get them done at a back-yard garage and they last you a few years, you’re still better off! As for the suspension, unless you got adaptive dampers, don’t use the dealer!!

Find a trusted local garage to ease your worries, the kind of repairs you mention is nothing if I am honest with you! Most EV’s are salary sacrifice etc and do you really want to give up ICE for another monthly outgoing during these economic times? Your issues can get sorted within budget, it will just be a little annoying to shop around for a bit.

I think your car got the B47 engine, mechanically that motor is much better then its predecessor the N47 which had the known timing chain problems. Around 2015 onwards BMW did well to address so many of their reliability issues in general. And @ 70k miles you got plenty if juice left, I’d only change it to get something else; petrol or diesel. P.S my 20 year old motor is like on 110k miles


Same, I always get the cappuccino when I get a service done lol And look around at all the cars around me in disgust wondering why some of them are too big & bulky

 

[DeadlyVenom]

@gazza619 salary sacrifice or lease is the way to go with EV's. No issues with maintenance and don't have to worry about the depreciation. If you are charging at home shop around for an energy company that offers some EV tarrifs too.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Where are you guys getting tax breaks on EV? Which country? England is too small so nobody drives a lot there anyways so fuel is cheap @KingKhanWC


I am old and my mother is even older and need help getting in and out of a car with my old bones

UK will only sell EV's by 2030, they are giving tax breaks etc which goes to the EV companies helping to make them bigger profits , all in collusion with MPs who have are lobbied and receive donations. They are too expensive atm compared to other cars.

 

[Technics 1210]

The greatest conspiracy theory going right now is that our government cares for us, cares for the environment, and always speak the truth on all matters, including the automobile industry and energy sector.

All sheep who follow the government and trust the government, deserve to be lemmings.

 

[shaz619]

Salary sacrifice is such a scam! well for me anyway, there are much better deals on select car leasing’s website!

Worst case, if you are worried about maintenance & reliability, you could always get a brand new petrol or diesel in warranty with very little else to be concerned about!

I can’t make any case for an EV remotely.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Salary sacrifice is such a scam! well for me anyway, there are much better deals on select car leasing’s website!

Worst case, if you are worried about maintenance & reliability, you could always get a brand new petrol or diesel in warranty with very little else to be concerned about!

I can’t make any case for an EV remotely.

you can get good deals occassionally. Most of the cars on select you need to put down a 6 months deposit, and then insurance + maintenance. On the Sacrifice Scheme that's taken care off. As an example recently an Audi Q6 was showing up around 200 quid a month cheaper ( + maint and insurance) vs normal leases.

There is a page on tiktok called Vehicle Consulting. Take a look at their vids and when a nice car pops up compare it to your company's scheme.

 

[LordJames]

I visited the dealership for brake pad replacement and brake fluid maintenance. Initially, I was quoted around £340 for the service, which I was prepared for. However, while enjoying the complimentary mocha from their coffee machine, I was approached by a customer service representative who presented a long list of additional repairs, including brake discs and suspension, totalling over £2,000.

The representative claimed this was a discounted price with a dodgy smile, but I declined the additional costs. He mentioned that the brake fluid had already been changed, so I agreed to proceed with that only. He then offered to speak with his manager to reduce the price, but returned with an £1,800 bill, which I also declined.

I left the dealership feeling quite frustrated. I drive a 2016 BMW 2 Series 220d with approximately 70,000 miles on it, and I am quite attached to the car, which is why I have always deferred the thought of replacing it. As I was leaving, I decided to take two complementary cold drinks from their fridge, which made me feel slightly better

Sorry to hear that, its cheaper to buy parts and get them all replaced sometimes instead of messing around with fault finding. Brakes/Suspension are usually cheaper to just replace! Take your car and turn steering (extreme right) and make slow circles while turning do you hear any noises? Repeat the test in the other direction and listen for noises. Get under the car and see if there are any leaks (oil or broken rubber in the suspension) and if none of this is happening your suspension is fine for the time being. Turn the wheel (extreme in one direction), get under the car and look for a leak in the rubber or any sign of leak (repeat in the other direction too):

You can physically look at your brakes through the holes and see how worn out the brakes are and also feel it with your fingers (to see if they are being eaten into). This is an extreme example but in normal cars you can look at your brakes

Of course if you can just take the wheel off then this is what it looks like and it will be clearly visible to you if you need a brake job...just looking at 1 front wheel and 1 back wheel is enough!

Guys,

Please update me on the latest in UK for older car maintenance as it has been a while since I was in UK

UK/Canada:

1. Go to an Independent Car Garage and let them inspect the Car.
2. Get a list of exactly what needs to be repaired and cost
3. Call around to get quotes, always get at least 3-4 quotes
4. Get it done and ask to see the old parts
5. Get your Service History stamped and keep it updated or for Canada (update your Carfax History)

USA:

1. Get your oil changed when the Sale comes at the Dealer and get a report of what else needs to be fixed
2. Buy your Parts at RockAuto (check Amazon too as you may get it cheaper) you need to ask some Brothers on what to buy, for example drilled and slotted discs etc
   1. Parts brand depends on your Car
   2. OEM of 3rd party also depends on your Car and age
3. From Facebook get a Mobile mechanic to install it for you if you don't have a trusted Mechanic but do your research before picking the mechanic
4. Update CarFax and keep it updated for your car.

BMW 2-Series is not a big car but for bigger cars you need serious stopping power so get your brakes updated with thicker drilled and slotted kit specially if you have women, kids driving in inclement weather, you don't want to take chances.

 

[LordJames]

Get Ceramic or Metallic Brake Pads for extra stopping power for your wife and kids etc...

Brand doesn't matter! Its the type which matters...

 

[sweep_shot]

People without a Brain

Whoever designed this should be in a mental hospital.

Retarded design.

 

[shaz619]

you can get good deals occassionally. Most of the cars on select you need to put down a 6 months deposit, and then insurance + maintenance. On the Sacrifice Scheme that's taken care off. As an example recently an Audi Q6 was showing up around 200 quid a month cheaper ( + maint and insurance) vs normal leases.

There is a page on tiktok called Vehicle Consulting. Take a look at their vids and when a nice car pops up compare it to your company's scheme.

I am not sure if the gap is that much wider, I think the salary sacrifice discount ought to be much wider, if you go through every nook & cranny I could swear there wouldn’t be too much difference.

 

[shaz619]

Sorry to hear that, its cheaper to buy parts and get them all replaced sometimes instead of messing around with fault finding. Brakes/Suspension are usually cheaper to just replace! Take your car and turn steering (extreme right) and make slow circles while turning do you hear any noises? Repeat the test in the other direction and listen for noises. Get under the car and see if there are any leaks (oil or broken rubber in the suspension) and if none of this is happening your suspension is fine for the time being. Turn the wheel (extreme in one direction), get under the car and look for a leak in the rubber or any sign of leak (repeat in the other direction too):

You can physically look at your brakes through the holes and see how worn out the brakes are and also feel it with your fingers (to see if they are being eaten into). This is an extreme example but in normal cars you can look at your brakes

Of course if you can just take the wheel off then this is what it looks like and it will be clearly visible to you if you need a brake job...just looking at 1 front wheel and 1 back wheel is enough!

Guys,

Please update me on the latest in UK for older car maintenance as it has been a while since I was in UK

UK/Canada:

1. Go to an Independent Car Garage and let them inspect the Car.
2. Get a list of exactly what needs to be repaired and cost
3. Call around to get quotes, always get at least 3-4 quotes
4. Get it done and ask to see the old parts
5. Get your Service History stamped and keep it updated or for Canada (update your Carfax History)

USA:

1. Get your oil changed when the Sale comes at the Dealer and get a report of what else needs to be fixed
2. Buy your Parts at RockAuto (check Amazon too as you may get it cheaper) you need to ask some Brothers on what to buy, for example drilled and slotted discs etc
   1. Parts brand depends on your Car
   2. OEM of 3rd party also depends on your Car and age
3. From Facebook get a Mobile mechanic to install it for you if you don't have a trusted Mechanic but do your research before picking the mechanic
4. Update CarFax and keep it updated for your car.

BMW 2-Series is not a big car but for bigger cars you need serious stopping power so get your brakes updated with thicker drilled and slotted kit specially if you have women, kids driving in inclement weather, you don't want to take chances.

Great post, I don’t do the work myself usually but all good points.

I think even if he isn’t hands on, if he can do a bit of troubleshooting, go to a trusted garage, then you can just get the parts yourself & pay for labour.

I normally just let the indie charge me for parts & labour, it’s way cheaper compared to a dealer, unless there’s a specific performance bit I want which I’ll source myself. For things like hydraulic fluid flush etc I get that myself and also things like coolant, most garages wont go to the nth degree but you can get to them to a point where the steps are straightforward and they are happy to do what you want exactly.

 

[LordJames]

Time Magazine Study:

This was in the 1980s. Time Magazine bought a brand new Dodge and gave it to a woman Journalist to drive across America. Every few hundred miles they taught her to reverse the spark plug cables (put 2 in 4, 3 in 1 etc) and then take the car to a Mechanic due to misfire.

By the time she reached California, the car had cost (something like) 6 times the price of the original vehicle in repairs. Some Dealers had even changed the Car Lighter 3 times, 1 dealer charged her $800 for Car lighter saying its a system change and its connected to her Engine and Car Lighter is causing the engine to misfire!

She had the whole engine changed, transmission changed, brake system changed, suspension changed etc.

Only 2-3 Mechanics caught the actual issue and 2 didn't charge anything, something like that.

 

[Technics 1210]

Salary sacrifice is such a scam! well for me anyway, there are much better deals on select car leasing’s website!

Worst case, if you are worried about maintenance & reliability, you could always get a brand new petrol or diesel in warranty with very little else to be concerned about!

I can’t make any case for an EV remotely.

Salary Sacrifice, for a car in London, is a massive scam.

I work in London, and preferred to be paid extra every month than have a car through a lease. The extra £500 or so, went straight into Gold!

Whats the point in London? I prefer the Tube/Bus when travelling in London anyway!

But you make a good point, that driving an EV through a company lease scheme is a preferable option to buying an EV (new or 2nd hand), because I wonder if those who drive an EV through a lease, would buy an EV from their pocket? The answer is overall a resounding no.

Even the Uber drivers of London have started to complain, because hybrid will be phased out by TfL for Uber qualification.

EV will never take off if because it means the death of the petrodollar. This is a fact. Japan, UK, USA, and even Europe, all had electric cars on the roads, before the discovery of oil in the ME - the rest is history.

 

[Technics 1210]

@shaz619 I had a 2000 Honda Civic, 2 door, 2 Litre, lowered, with sounds, spoiler, and it was black in colour. It was my KNIGHT RIDER. I had custom bling too - Blue LEDs underneath, and the KITT red phaser light under the hood, but enough to show off when needed!

That b@st@rd Sadiq Khan forced me to sell it due to the ULEZ expansion into zones 4, 5, and 6.

I hate the guy with a passion.

My Knight Rider was my fortress of solitude.

 

[shaz619]

@shaz619 I had a 2000 Honda Civic, 2 door, 2 Litre, lowered, with sounds, spoiler, and it was black in colour. It was my KNIGHT RIDER. I had custom bling too - Blue LEDs underneath, and the KITT red phaser light under the hood, but enough to show off when needed!

That b@st@rd Sadiq Khan forced me to sell it due to the ULEZ expansion into zones 4, 5, and 6.

I hate the guy with a passion.

My Knight Rider was my fortress of solitude.

Sadiq Khan is a piece if crap for that, in London you don’t get to drive around much anyway as you said, but most people who do have car, it’s usually their pride & joy for the weekends, imagine being charged the moment you start your car! That’s beyond pathetic, and even worse when these classics are somehow not ULEZ compliant, their carbon footprint is much lower then all the newer cars which are made

I’ve read about Londoner’s having to sell legendary cars such as the BMW E30 as a result, the only option is getting storage outside the ULEZ zone but in big city’s the cost is probably high and you don’t feel comfortable doing that for the greed or ignorance of the leadership!

Just on that alone I would never vote for him, what an absolute waste of sperm, sorry about that Honda, don’t make them like the 2000’s anymore!

 

[RizwanT20Champ]

Electric cars are a scam for Dimmies. Stay away. Their mileage is terrible. I had a "top brand" electric car for all of 4 days before I ran into all kinds of problems.

 

[Technics 1210]

Sadiq Khan is a piece if crap for that, in London you don’t get to drive around much anyway as you said, but most people who do have car, it’s usually their pride & joy for the weekends, imagine being charged the moment you start your car! That’s beyond pathetic, and even worse when these classics are somehow not ULEZ compliant, their carbon footprint is much lower then all the newer cars which are made

I’ve read about Londoner’s having to sell legendary cars such as the BMW E30 as a result, the only option is getting storage outside the ULEZ zone but in big city’s the cost is probably high and you don’t feel comfortable doing that for the greed or ignorance of the leadership!

Just on that alone I would never vote for him, what an absolute waste of sperm, sorry about that Honda, don’t make them like the 2000’s anymore!

Here’s the thing.

It would have costed me £12.50 a day to keep my Knight Rider on the road.

I’m like, if the skank mayor is serious about cutting emissions, then why bloody offer the choice to pollute the enviroment at a cost of 12.50 a day!

This is making my blood boil as I type.

 

[shaz619]

Here’s the thing.

It would have costed me £12.50 a day to keep my Knight Rider on the road.

I’m like, if the skank mayor is serious about cutting emissions, then why bloody offer the choice to pollute the enviroment at a cost of 12.50 a day!

This is making my blood boil as I type.

Have you followed the Youtuber Brown Car Guy? he’s from London and has been protesting this for so long, it’s just a cash grab for the doofus khan, and don’t get me started on his scrap scheme!

 

[LordJames]

Have you followed the Youtuber Brown Car Guy? he’s from London and has been protesting this for so long, it’s just a cash grab for the doofus khan, and don’t get me started on his scrap scheme!

Average age of car in UK is 10 years?

Its 12 1/2 years in US and obviously with much higher mileage too.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

But you make a good point, that driving an EV through a company lease scheme is a preferable option to buying an EV (new or 2nd hand), because I wonder if those who drive an EV through a lease, would buy an EV from their pocket? The answer is overall a resounding no.

Agree with this. I have a normal car and electric through work. No chance I would buy an electric outright because Ive heard too many stories of the crazy depreciation and when things go wrong they go very wrong. I can't take it to my usual uncle mechanic coz he ain't touching it.

Electric does have its benefits if you can get a good deal, live in a house with easy parking ( it would be nightmare to charge in most homes where you have on street parking).

 

[sweep_shot]

@shaz619 I had a 2000 Honda Civic, 2 door, 2 Litre, lowered, with sounds, spoiler, and it was black in colour. It was my KNIGHT RIDER. I had custom bling too - Blue LEDs underneath, and the KITT red phaser light under the hood, but enough to show off when needed!

That b@st@rd Sadiq Khan forced me to sell it due to the ULEZ expansion into zones 4, 5, and 6.

I hate the guy with a passion.

My Knight Rider was my fortress of solitude.

I have a Honda Civic 2016 currently. I have been driving it for the last 6-7 years.

It is much better than retarded EVs.

 

[hks222]

I have a Honda Civic 2016 currently. I have been driving it for the last 6-7 years.

It is much better than retarded EVs.

True.

By the way, these EV rear wheel drive cars seem very scary - the instant push is very voilent.

 

[sweep_shot]

True.

By the way, these EV rear wheel drive cars seem very scary - the instant push is very voilent.

I see.

I read on the news one guy died in an EV because there was a malfunction.

 

[JaDed]

Go for it, in terms of Tesla: super quiet , great for city drive, the auto drive feature costs about 100$ or something a month.

The newer Model Y is also very quiet on concrete roads which was an issue before.

I don’t understand the love for traditional cars esp for average folks that just need it for city drive.

 

[Technics 1210]

Not one electric car qualifies for Labour’s £3,750 discount.

Not a single driver will be eligible to receive Labour’s flagship £3,750 electric vehicle (EV) grant, analysis shows.

The net zero scheme, which was announced in mid-July, begins making payouts to manufacturers from this week.

However, only 22 car models are eligible for the grant, but none of them qualify for the full headline subsidy. Drivers of vehicles including the Renault Megane and Vauxhall Astra Electric instead receive a smaller payment of £1,500.

Just two EVs – Citroen e-C5 Aircross and Nissan Leaf – are likely to be eligible for the full grant but neither is currently on the market.

DT

 

[ElRaja]

loads of points i wanted to answer to so ill do it in one post..

1. why have a car in london? old parents, potential emergencies, and living on the periphery of the city. also unless you driving into zone 1, driving tends to be quicker door to door.
2. electric cars are full of problems? ive had one for over two years, no issue. i know two friends who have had electric cars for longer, and apart from a squeeky spring on a tesla, no problems.
3. why salary sacrifice? honestly its a no brainer, given how much tax i pay i will scrape back any penny i can from the government. as a comparison my polestar 2 years ago was £750 on a lease, i pay around £450 for mine with no upfront payment (average over the term has been around £500. all salary sacrifice is not the same, the highest quote i got was nearly £900, so you have to shop around.
4. ice vs electric? this is a non-argument, if you understand that both serve different purposes (at the moment).
5. electric is a fad, conspiracy, partly true, but the real conspiracy is that china could not compete with ice car manufacturers so put all its eggs in the electric basket to blow global car makers out the water, if your bet against electric, your betting against the smartest minds in china

i consider myself a proper petrolhead, all my dream cars are ICE cars, but ignoring electric because they dont invoke the same emotion wont make a difference, they are here to stay. @RizwanT20Champ which car did you have, what issues did u face, so i avoid it when i look to get another one

 

[DeadlyVenom]

loads of points i wanted to answer to so ill do it in one post..

1. why have a car in london? old parents, potential emergencies, and living on the periphery of the city. also unless you driving into zone 1, driving tends to be quicker door to door.
2. electric cars are full of problems? ive had one for over two years, no issue. i know two friends who have had electric cars for longer, and apart from a squeeky spring on a tesla, no problems.
3. why salary sacrifice? honestly its a no brainer, given how much tax i pay i will scrape back any penny i can from the government. as a comparison my polestar 2 years ago was £750 on a lease, i pay around £450 for mine with no upfront payment (average over the term has been around £500. all salary sacrifice is not the same, the highest quote i got was nearly £900, so you have to shop around.
4. ice vs electric? this is a non-argument, if you understand that both serve different purposes (at the moment).
5. electric is a fad, conspiracy, partly true, but the real conspiracy is that china could not compete with ice car manufacturers so put all its eggs in the electric basket to blow global car makers out the water, if your bet against electric, your betting against the smartest minds in china

i consider myself a proper petrolhead, all my dream cars are ICE cars, but ignoring electric because they dont invoke the same emotion wont make a difference, they are here to stay. @RizwanT20Champ which car did you have, what issues did u face, so i avoid it when i look to get another one

Point number 5 is bang on. I've said the same things, and we don't even get the best of the chinese market here.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Go for it, in terms of Tesla: super quiet , great for city drive, the auto drive feature costs about 100$ or something a month.

The newer Model Y is also very quiet on concrete roads which was an issue before.

I don’t understand the love for traditional cars esp for average folks that just need it for city drive.

There are some really good deals for Tesla, I was tempted but Elons meltdowns put me off.

 

[LordJames]

loads of points i wanted to answer to so ill do it in one post..

1. why have a car in london? old parents, potential emergencies, and living on the periphery of the city. also unless you driving into zone 1, driving tends to be quicker door to door.
2. electric cars are full of problems? ive had one for over two years, no issue. i know two friends who have had electric cars for longer, and apart from a squeeky spring on a tesla, no problems.
3. why salary sacrifice? honestly its a no brainer, given how much tax i pay i will scrape back any penny i can from the government. as a comparison my polestar 2 years ago was £750 on a lease, i pay around £450 for mine with no upfront payment (average over the term has been around £500. all salary sacrifice is not the same, the highest quote i got was nearly £900, so you have to shop around.
4. ice vs electric? this is a non-argument, if you understand that both serve different purposes (at the moment).
5. electric is a fad, conspiracy, partly true, but the real conspiracy is that china could not compete with ice car manufacturers so put all its eggs in the electric basket to blow global car makers out the water, if your bet against electric, your betting against the smartest minds in china

i consider myself a proper petrolhead, all my dream cars are ICE cars, but ignoring electric because they dont invoke the same emotion wont make a difference, they are here to stay. @RizwanT20Champ which car did you have, what issues did u face, so i avoid it when i look to get another one

There are some really good deals for Tesla, I was tempted but Elons meltdowns put me off.

Tesla is the least reliable Use car in America considering records for the past 5-10 years, its a bag of junk for the amount of money which is being paid for it.

Tesla Is One Of The Least Reliable Used Car Brands: Consumer Reports

Several owners of older Model S EVs reported battery and drive unit replacements. Meanwhile, Lexus and Toyota are at the top.

insideevs.com

Not only its unreliable, its quality is getting worse over the years, not better and it is admitted even by Tesla owners

J.D. Power Vehicle Dependability Slumps Overall, Tesla stays 4th from last

Tesla dependability declined (242->252 issues per 100 vehicles), but same goes for the industry overall (186->190). Consequently, Tesla stayed 5th in rankings, though it's not officially counted for whatever reason. I do agree that Lexus/Toyota are the best in class. By far...

teslamotorsclub.com

As I said Hertz kept on insisting that I rent a "Tesla" and they are badly built, unreliable and noisy, abject junk for the money Elon is asking for them.

Rickety doors, chassis and noisy suspensions. Drive a Tesla and drive a Lexus and you know the difference

 

[IAJ]

Norway has the highest proportion of electric cars relative to its total number of vehicles and there are no issues. Many cars have range from 500-600 and that is more than enough and with charges available all over the country you really don’t need anything else.

I myself have among other 2 Nissan Leaf’s. One with 24 kWh battery and the other with 62 kWh, enough for my purposes.

 

[LordJames]

Norway has the highest proportion of electric cars relative to its total number of vehicles and there are no issues. Many cars have range from 500-600 and that is more than enough and with charges available all over the country you really don’t need anything else.

I myself have among other 2 Nissan Leaf’s. One with 24 kWh battery and the other with 62 kWh, enough for my purposes.

Leaf is reliable car and leads the way in quality.

https://www.whatcar.com/news/reliability-survey-most-reliable-electric-cars/n26158

Tesla is junk!

 

[Mamoon]

HEVs are fantastic and they have become super popular in Pakistan, EVs are about to take off in Pakistan as well.

There’s a lot of pessimism over EVs in this thread but it clearly has its benefits, although the skepticism overs its deprecation is quite common.

However, in the future, EV batteries will become very cheap to the point that the depreciation factor will be significantly reduced, plus it has almost no running maintenance costs because you are not running an engine (no oil change, etc.)

 

[Technics 1210]

Norway also has the least proportion of population too, at least 1/12th that of UK. Which is why Norway have a great pension system too etc, you have less people in Norway.

In UK there are approx 25 Million drivers, 5 times that the population of Norway, and I'm not even including drivers who have 2 cars.

The UK infrastructure is not fit to distribute water, gas, electricity as it is, and we have dreams of generating electricity (either importing energy or through fossil fuels).

EVs are sold on the basis of a con in the UK, that con is clean energy, net-zero, and tax breaks - someone finally realised it is more damaging to the environment when generating that much electricity to support EVs.

Heck, UK government can even get HS2 right.

 

[Technics 1210]

Oh another thing, that monstrosity of a London Mayor has plans to not only increase the 20 MPH zones in London, but now he wants to reduce the speed limit to 10 MPH in parts of London.

Forget EVs, walking or cycling will be your best bet soon!

 

[gazza619]

Oh another thing, that monstrosity of a London Mayor has plans to not only increase the 20 MPH zones in London, but now he wants to reduce the speed limit to 10 MPH in parts of London.

Forget EVs, walking or cycling will be your best bet soon!

Thank God I left London 8 years ago!

 

[gazza619]

Leaf is reliable car and leads the way in quality.

https://www.whatcar.com/news/reliability-survey-most-reliable-electric-cars/n26158

Tesla is junk!

Have you ever driven a Tesla or a Leaf? Why do you think Leaf is high in quality?

 

[LordJames]

Have you ever driven a Tesla or a Leaf? Why do you think Leaf is high in quality?

Driven both and relatives have both but both are different cars.

The Nissan Leaf is a smaller, cheaper car with less range (about 100 miles before 2019 models) and slower charging. But it’s built better, more reliable, and has been around longer, so most of the issues are already worked out. There are plenty of used Leafs on the market too. If you just need a daily commuter, can charge overnight, and want something affordable that lasts, the Leaf makes more sense.

The Tesla, on the other hand, has more range and size, but is known for poor build quality and low reliability. If budget isn’t a concern and I wanted a family EV, something like a Polestar (in the US) or a BYD (outside the US) might be a better choice.

But ULEZ isn't an issue for us so not happening for the foreseeable future. We get used (older) Leafs really cheap here so I may buy one for kids to go to university if the current car dies because their university is within range.

I have already shared the reliability links.

In the US, Teslas are very popular among Indians (just like Hondas used to be), while at mosques you’ll mostly see Toyotas like the Camry. Hondas tend to have higher repair costs, which is why Toyota is more common among Arabs, Pakistanis, Afghans, and Turks, while Indians lean more toward Teslas and Hondas.

Why Indians are obsessed with Teslas? | Misc. - Blind

Genuine question, I live in the bay area and 80% of Tesla drivers I see here are Indian. Most Indian coworkers in my team talk about how they want to buy a Tesla all the time. Is there a secret behind this or it’s just my bubble?

www.teamblind.com

https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaLounge/comments/1hjmsdw/teslas_and_south_asian_indians_in_the_usa

TikTok - Make Your Day

Indians are financially savvy but not mechanically inclined. Toyota Camry is basically a Kitchen Appliance, no fun but it will run forever!

 

[shaz619]

Norway also has the least proportion of population too, at least 1/12th that of UK. Which is why Norway have a great pension system too etc, you have less people in Norway.

In UK there are approx 25 Million drivers, 5 times that the population of Norway, and I'm not even including drivers who have 2 cars.

The UK infrastructure is not fit to distribute water, gas, electricity as it is, and we have dreams of generating electricity (either importing energy or through fossil fuels).

EVs are sold on the basis of a con in the UK, that con is clean energy, net-zero, and tax breaks - someone finally realised it is more damaging to the environment when generating that much electricity to support EVs.

Heck, UK government can even get HS2 right.

For those that actually run EV’s today in the UK, I’d love to know if they are making significant savings when you consider what we pay for electricity compared to the rest of Europe.

 

[sweep_shot]

Go for it, in terms of Tesla: super quiet , great for city drive, the auto drive feature costs about 100$ or something a month.

The newer Model Y is also very quiet on concrete roads which was an issue before.

I don’t understand the love for traditional cars esp for average folks that just need it for city drive.

Can you take an EV for a long drive? I have heard horror stories.

Also, it takes a long time to charge an EV. It is inconvenient.

As of now, I prefer traditional cars.

 

[Caved12]

I rented a Tesla for a couple of weeks and didn’t enjoy it. The regen braking takes a bit of getting used to, and I hated having to control everything through the big screen. For the price, the car felt pretty ordinary. Another thing I noticed was the range, if you drive even slightly aggressively, the battery drains much faster and you don’t get anywhere near the advertised mileage. To maximize it, you basically have to drive like your grandma.

Charging wasn’t cheap either about $35 for a full charge back in 2022, plus all the waiting around. That said, it’s still cheaper than filling up on gas, so there is that advantage. I drive a Mazda CX-9 and love it, and I wouldn’t trade it for a Tesla. But I know this is the future, especially once gas prices shoot up.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Congratulations Gazza bhai on your new Electric car. May you have countless happy & safe miles on it.


On a lighter note, here’s a top review on EVs by renowned motor enthusiast Raja Gujjar bhai