England defeat New Zealand in Super Over by 9 runs after match tied, win T20I series 3-2

[Justcrazy]

Poms are ahead here

 

[Justcrazy]

Kiwis failing here

 

[TheRock]

LOL. Kiwis are cursed.

 

[Danyaalr01]

I don't get it. It's a true wicket with mid off up, why would you try to scoop a full delivery outside off.

 

[DRsohail]

poms win

 

[Justcrazy]

England win here , kiwis would be disappointed, but they have to accept that Poms right now number one team in white ball

 

[Mamoon]

New Zealand should stop moaning now and make peace with the reality. In 2019, they were England’s bunny in multiple sports.

Well done England. They won with several players missing against a pretty much full-strength New Zealand side.

The real number 1 team at the moment. They continue to raise the ball in Limited Overs cricket.

 

[Aman]

New Zealand should stop moaning now and make peace with the reality. In 2019, they were England’s bunny in multiple sports.

Well done England. They won with several players missing against a pretty much full-strength New Zealand side.

The real number 1 team at the moment. They continue to raise the ball in Limited Overs cricket.

It's T20, pipe down wannabe angreji.

We've never really been great in the format. Pakistan smashed us here a few years back.

 

[MenInG]

It's T20, pipe down wannabe angreji.

We've never really been great in the format. Pakistan smashed us here a few years back.

For a Number 6th ranked team to take a number 3 ranked side to a super over in 5th T20I shows me NZ a much better team than you think Aman - wouldnt worry about people trolling etc.

 

[Aman]

England win here , kiwis would be disappointed, but they have to accept that Poms right now number one team in white ball

Credit to England, they have a lot of depth for the shorter formats.

 

[Danyaalr01]

New Zealand should stop moaning now and make peace with the reality. In 2019, they were England’s bunny in multiple sports.

Well done England. They won with several players missing against a pretty much full-strength New Zealand side.

The real number 1 team at the moment. They continue to raise the ball in Limited Overs cricket.

Bunny in multiple sports this year, REALLY? It was on game of rugby, perhaps you should check the overall record. The last time England beat the ABs was in 2012 before the semis. A bunny is when that team has beaten a team multiple times. England are New Zealands Bunny in rugby. Research before commenting.

You really don't like New Zealand do you.

 

[aloo paratha]

New Zealand should stop moaning now and make peace with the reality. In 2019, they were England’s bunny in multiple sports.

Well done England. They won with several players missing against a pretty much full-strength New Zealand side.

The real number 1 team at the moment. They continue to raise the ball in Limited Overs cricket.

lol NZ doesn't even have their regular captain. Their premier fast bowler didn't even play the first 3 games, NZ is also experimenting with the likes of Kugellign and Mitchell.

 

[aloo paratha]

T20 series, who cares. Though Southee shouldn't even have been in the team let alone the captain.

Why did Southee bowl the last over? Who sent Seifert out over De Grandhomme?

 

[Mamoon]

Bunny in multiple sports this year, REALLY? It was on game of rugby, perhaps you should check the overall record. The last time England beat the ABs was in 2012 before the semis. A bunny is when that team has beaten a team multiple times. England are New Zealands Bunny in rugby. Research before commenting.

You really don't like New Zealand do you.

You didn’t get my point. I am well aware of AB’s dominance. My point was that England has dominated New Zealand across sports this year.

I don’t like or dislike New Zealand. I just find their incessant wailing over the World Cup final annoying, and I am happy to see them get trolled by England again and again,

 

[MenInG]

Fifth Twenty20, Eden Park, Auckland
New Zealand 146-5: Guptill 50 (20), Munro 46 (21)
England 146-7: Bairstow 47 (18), Santner 2-20
England 17, New Zealand 8 in super over
England won by nine runs in super over; England won series 3-2

England beat New Zealand in another super over to win a thrilling final Twenty20 and take the series 3-2.

In a repeat of July's World Cup final, the scores were tied at the end of a wildly unpredictable game in Auckland.

New Zealand plundered 146-5 from 11 overs, and it took Chris Jordan hitting 12 off the final three deliveries to take the game to a super over.

Jonny Bairstow, who earlier struck 47 off 18 balls, and captain Eoin Morgan scored 17 off England's six deliveries, before Jordan limited New Zealand to eight.

It was a remarkable finish to a rain-delayed game that contained a staggering 29 sixes in 24 overs at Eden Park.

While England, who won the World Cup final by virtue of scoring more boundaries, held their nerve in admittedly less pressurised circumstances, New Zealand will take little comfort from once again missing out by the thinnest of margins.

If the two-Test series which starts on 21 November comes close to matching the excitement on offer at Eden Park, supporters from both sides can have no complaints.

There were several moments around which this game hinged: Bairstow's three sixes in a row off Ish Sodhi; Jordan's four off the final ball to tie the scores; and Morgan's stunning catch over his shoulder as he ran back from cover to remove Tim Seifert with the fourth ball of the super over.

But Jordan's nerveless display with the ball deserves particular praise, given the batting pyrotechnics which had gone before.

On a pitch that offered the bowlers no assistance, and on a ground with boundaries so short that mishits frequently cleared the rope, his yorkers restricted Seifert and Martin Guptill to a two, a four and two singles.

England's celebrations may not have matched those at Lord's on 14 July, but they can be rightly proud of the manner in which they pulled off an away series win with a squad featuring six T20 debutants.

Victory in the Tests would cap an impressive first series for new England coach Chris Silverwood.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/50363945

 

[Aman]

You didn’t get my point. I am well aware of AB’s dominance. My point was that England has dominated New Zealand across sports this year.

I don’t like or dislike New Zealand. I just find their incessant wailing over the World Cup final annoying, and I am happy to see them get trolled by England again and again,

So they tied the WC Final, beat us in a T20 series which no one cares about and they beat us in the SFs only to go on and lose a game which they were heavy favorites by a record margin?

England won as many WCs as NZ did this year, and we also had a new UFC world champion who is a big star in the UFC being lined up for a big fight with Jon Jones.

 

[Aman]

^That doesn't include NZ having their very first major pro wrestling world champion, who also went on to make the Finals of the G1 and beat icons of the business like Okada, Tanahashi and Naito.

 

[Mamoon]

So they tied the WC Final, beat us in a T20 series which no one cares about and they beat us in the SFs only to go on and lose a game which they were heavy favorites by a record margin?

England won as many WCs as NZ did this year, and we also had a new UFC world champion who is a big star in the UFC being lined up for a big fight with Jon Jones.

England are the World Cup winners and your denial won’t change the fact. The trophy is in the England HQs and not New Zealand’s.

No one stopped you guys from hitting more boundaries. You paid a heavy price for your negative batting in the last 5 overs, while England were rewarded for their positive approach in spite of regularly losing wickets.

England have won a World Cup this year and you haven’t. Accept the reality because New Zealand is known to be a gracious loser, a perception that is beginning to lose credibility.

 

[Aman]

Hate to break it to you, NZ did win a WC this year.

 

[Danyaalr01]

Eden Park has to be the ground with the most thrillers or extraordinary games in the last 5 years:

2014- Tie with India in an ODI
2015 WC group match vs Australia
2015 WC group game SA vs PAK
2015 WC Semi Final
2017 NZ vs AUS match where Stoinis almost won it for Aus
2018 - Highest T20I chase AUs vs NZ
2018 - NZ bowl out England for 58 in day night test match on the first day.
And now todays match.

I only got to watch 2 of these at the stadium.

 

[Aman]

Eden Park has to be the ground with the most thrillers or extraordinary games in the last 5 years:

2014- Tie with India in an ODI
2015 WC group match vs Australia
2015 WC group game SA vs PAK
2015 WC Semi Final
2017 NZ vs AUS match where Stoinis almost won it for Aus
2018 - Highest T20I chase AUs vs NZ
2018 - NZ bowl out England for 58 in day night test match on the first day.
And now todays match.

I only got to watch 2 of these at the stadium.

Eden Park may be small but it does produce classic matches, it's a shame so many are blinded by the boundary size and ignore the quality of cricket that has been seen there recently.

 

[Danyaalr01]

England are the World Cup winners and your denial won’t change the fact. The trophy is in the England HQs and not New Zealand’s.

No one stopped you guys from hitting more boundaries. You paid a heavy price for your negative batting in the last 5 overs, while England were rewarded for their positive approach in spite of regularly losing wickets.

England have won a World Cup this year and you haven’t. Accept the reality because New Zealand is known to be a gracious loser, a perception that is beginning to lose credibility.

Again, do your research before you post. Netball is a pretty big deal in New Zealand.

 

[Aman]

Again, do your research before you post. Netball is a pretty big deal in New Zealand.

Wannabe Englishmen has no idea what he's talking about, leave it.

 

[Danyaalr01]

Eden Park may be small but it does produce classic matches, it's a shame so many are blinded by the boundary size and ignore the quality of cricket that has been seen there recently.

Wasn't there a plan to make a stadium/ground around Western Springs just for cricket? I've been hearing about this for a while but nothings ever been done.

 

[Aman]

Wasn't there a plan to make a stadium/ground around Western Springs just for cricket? I've been hearing about this for a while but nothings ever been done.

There was years back, but I haven't heard anything about it. Think they may have stuck with revamping Eden Park and Mt Smart Stadium. I do wish cricket had its own big stadium in Auckland, Eden Park is cool and all but every game there all you hear is other teams fans complain about how small it is.

 

[Danyaalr01]

Eden Park has to be the ground with the most thrillers or extraordinary games in the last 5 years:

2014- Tie with India in an ODI
2015 WC group match vs Australia
2015 WC group game SA vs PAK
2015 WC Semi Final
2017 NZ vs AUS match where Stoinis almost won it for Aus
2018 - Highest T20I chase AUs vs NZ
2018 - NZ bowl out England for 58 in day night test match on the first day.
And now todays match.

I only got to watch 2 of these at the stadium.

Ofcourse there is also the 1992 World Cup Semifinal.

Not to forget the many rugby games.

 

[Aman]

Ofcourse there is also the 1992 World Cup Semifinal.

Not to forget the many rugby games.

Ended the WC drought at Eden Park

We've won 2 WCs there.

 

[Danyaalr01]

There was years back, but I haven't heard anything about it. Think they may have stuck with revamping Eden Park and Mt Smart Stadium. I do wish cricket had its own big stadium in Auckland, Eden Park is cool and all but every game there all you hear is other teams fans complain about how small it is.

The small boundaries make it unique. Eden Park always has a great atmosphere, no matter who is playing. I have been to Sedden park and it wasn't that good (probably because we were in the stands and not the grass). Mt Maunganui was great though, packed ground with a great atmosphere, helped by a drunk Islander who claimed his grandpa was Pakistani and was hurling abuse at the Kiwis.

 

[Mamoon]

Hate to break it to you, NZ did win a WC this year.

Good to know. At least the New Zealand women can win and not make excuses.

 

[Ag78]

That was a very entertaining game. Worth the price of admission for the crowd.

 

[Aman]

The small boundaries make it unique. Eden Park always has a great atmosphere, no matter who is playing. I have been to Sedden park and it wasn't that good (probably because we were in the stands and not the grass). Mt Maunganui was great though, packed ground with a great atmosphere, helped by a drunk Islander who claimed his grandpa was Pakistani and was hurling abuse at the Kiwis.

lmao.

Yeah, I was there for the WC SF, the atmosphere for the finish was incredible.

 

[Mamoon]

Wannabe Englishmen has no idea what he's talking about, leave it.

You have taken straw-clutching to a new level by bringing women sports to the table, but I will still give it to you to ease your pains.

 

[Aman]

You have taken straw-clutching to a new level by bringing women sports to the table, but I will still give it to you to ease your pains.

You do realize netball is pretty big here?...

Digging yourself a bigger hole. Not only are you disloyal to your own country, you're sexist.

 

[Mamoon]

Again, do your research before you post. Netball is a pretty big deal in New Zealand.

Don’t want to sound sexist, but bringing women sports to the table is ridiculous straw-clutching.

 

[Mamoon]

You do realize netball is pretty big here?...

I don’t care if it is big in New Zealand, it is not big globally. Both cricket and rugby are bigger globally, and England trolled New Zealand in both.

 

[Aman]

Don’t want to sound sexist, but bringing women sports to the table is ridiculous straw-clutching.

Usually that would be the case, but the mens netball game is non existent. Womens netball is the top level for the sport.

 

[Aman]

I don’t care if it is big in New Zealand, it is not big globally. Both cricket and rugby are bigger globally, and England trolled New Zealand in both.

Yeah, but we're sitting here with 2 WCs in 3 tournaments and England is sitting there with their runners up medal. I wonder who I would rather be.

Difference between bronze and silver is negligible, both useless.

 

[Danyaalr01]

Don’t want to sound sexist, but bringing women sports to the table is ridiculous straw-clutching.

No one cares about men's netball, infact I didn't even know men played until this year. Women's netball is considered big here and is probably the 3rd most followed team after the ABs and Black Caps. Come out of your backward shell. I understand you want to please the colonisers and prove to them you are one of them, but it's alright to be yourself, you don't have to suck-up to them.

 

[Danyaalr01]

I don’t care if it is big in New Zealand, it is not big globally. Both cricket and rugby are bigger globally, and England trolled New Zealand in both.

NZ: Won 3 Rugby world cups. England have one 1.

In 42 games, NZ have beaten England 33 times. England last beat NZ in 2012 and before that in 2003. A slip up in one game, and as [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] said, no one cares about the difference of bronze and silver, it's all about the winner.

 

[Aman]

No one cares about men's netball, infact I didn't even know men played until this year. Women's netball is considered big here and is probably the 3rd most followed team after the ABs and Black Caps. Come out of your backward shell. I understand you want to please the colonisers and prove to them you are one of them, but it's alright to be yourself, you don't have to suck-up to them.

Silver Ferns are probably more followed than the Kiwis, international league is pretty dead.

They'd be behind Super Rugby teams and The Warriors though.

 

[Aman]

NZ: 3 world cups.

In 42 games, NZ have beaten England 33 times. England last beat NZ in 2012 and before that in 2003. A slip up in one game, and as [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] said, no one cares about the difference of bronze and silver, it's all about the winner.

If they had won, they could have trolled us hard but fortunately they lost and by a record margin at that.

Thank the Boks from saving us from that hell.

 

[Danyaalr01]

If they had won, they could have trolled us hard but fortunately they lost and by a record margin at that.

Thank the Boks from saving us from that hell.

The Southern Hemisphere remains far superior than the Northern and Angrez.

 

[leatherface58]

Don’t want to sound sexist, but bringing women sports to the table is ridiculous straw-clutching.

A world cup is a world cup. Why should gender matter at all? Besides, when you frame the statement as "don't mean to sound sexist but", you are being sexist. The bit after the "but" becomes meaningless drivel.

 

[Aman]

The Southern Hemisphere remains far superior than the Northern and Angrez.

You don't know how happy I was to see the WC remain in the southern hemisphere. It's been here since 2007 and hopefully it will remain here more many a decade.

 

[Mamoon]

A world cup is a world cup. Why should gender matter at all? Besides, when you frame the statement as "don't mean to sound sexist but", you are being sexist. The bit after the "but" becomes meaningless drivel.

I would agree, but how else do I respond to dragging the women into the discussion while we are discussing England’s dominance over New Zealand this year in cricket and rugby?

Women sports are not at par with men’s sports yet. When you say a country has a won a World Cup, it automatically means a men’s World Cup.

When you talk about women’s World Cup, you have to call it a Women’s World Cup. Sexist yes, but that how it is for now.
[MENTION=149684]Danyaalr01[/MENTION]

 

[Ab Fan]

England captain won the World Cup 2019 trophy but unfortunately Kane Williamson ended up stealing the show. Barring Ben Stokes, not many Englishmen could elevate their legacy even after winning the tournament.

 

[Mamoon]

NZ: Won 3 Rugby world cups. England have one 1.

In 42 games, NZ have beaten England 33 times. England last beat NZ in 2012 and before that in 2003. A slip up in one game, and as [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION] said, no one cares about the difference of bronze and silver, it's all about the winner.

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION]

The loser doesn’t care, the winner does. Losing a World Cup final is a better result than losing a World Cup semi-final. That is beyond any dispute.

Again, not talking about history. Only 2019.

 

[Aman]

I would agree, but how else do I respond to dragging the women into the discussion while we are discussing England’s dominance over New Zealand this year in cricket and rugby?

Women sports are not at par with men’s sports yet. When you say a country has a won a World Cup, it automatically means a men’s World Cup.

When you talk about women’s World Cup, you have to call it a Women’s World Cup. Sexist yes, but that how it is for now.

[MENTION=149684]Danyaalr01[/MENTION]

Except the womens game is the main game for Netball.. the mens equivalent is essentially non existent as a commercial product.

 

[Mamoon]

England captain won the World Cup 2019 trophy but unfortunately Kane Williamson ended up stealing the show. Barring Ben Stokes, not many Englishmen could elevate their legacy even after winning the tournament.

Yes he stole the show with the most undeserving player of the tournament in World Cup history. ICC should may as well have called it the Pity Award.

Everyone - include Williamson and NZ fans themselves - know that the real player of the tournament was Stokes and by a massive margin.

 

[Mamoon]

Except the womens game is the main game for Netball.. the mens equivalent is essentially non existent as a commercial product.

It has no global relevance. Billions of people know that England and South Africa have won World Cup this years, but very few are aware of New Zealand winning the women netball.

 

[Aman]

[MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION]

The loser doesn’t care, the winner does. Losing a World Cup final is a better result than losing a World Cup semi-final. That is beyond any dispute.

Again, not talking about history. Only 2019.

No one is going to remember England beating us in 10 years time, I don't even remember who we beat in the 2015 or 2011 SFs. All I remember is the Finals and who we beat.

 

[James]

What a win!!

Lightning stuck twice!!

 

[Mamoon]

No one cares about men's netball, infact I didn't even know men played until this year. Women's netball is considered big here and is probably the 3rd most followed team after the ABs and Black Caps. Come out of your backward shell. I understand you want to please the colonisers and prove to them you are one of them, but it's alright to be yourself, you don't have to suck-up to them.

No one cares about women netball either. It has zero global relevance. How many people turned up for the final compared to the cricket and rugby finals?

I don’t want to please anyone. It is a fact that England have bossed New Zealand this year. Denying that is futile. That is all.

 

[Mamoon]

No one is going to remember England beating us in 10 years time, I don't even remember who we beat in the 2015 or 2011 SFs. All I remember is the Finals and who we beat.

English fans will. Beating the ABs is a matter of great pride and significance.

 

[Aman]

No one cares about women netball either. It has zero global relevance. How many people turned up for the final compared to the cricket and rugby finals?

I don’t want to please anyone. It is a fact that England have bossed New Zealand this year. Denying that is futile. That is all.

England beat us in one tournament and then went on to lose the Final by a record margin.

 

[Aman]

English fans will. Beating the ABs is a matter of great pride and significance.

And the rest of the world wont care, everyone else will remember SA smashing Eng in win the Final to continue SH dominance and leveling us in WCs.

Will be 2 decades since a NH team won the RWC by the time the next RWC rolls around.

 

[MenInG]

Stick to cricket please in this thread - polite warning.

 

[Robert]

What a win!!

Lightning stuck twice!!

Hopefully there will be a super over at the end of both tests as well

 

[Robert]

If they had won, they could have trolled us hard but fortunately they lost and by a record margin at that.

Thank the Boks from saving us from that hell.

But we wouldn’t have. It’s not our way. We might have a go at chippy whingers, but no dignified New Zealander like Williamson who takes it on the chin. We would just buy him a pint.

 

[MenInG]

Reopening memories of the epic ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2019 final in July this year, England trumped New Zealand after a Super Over once again – this time in the deciding T20I of the five-match series at Auckland's Eden Park.

Early showers delayed the toss, truncating the game to 11-overs-a-side. When play finally began, Martin Guptill and Colin Munro handed New Zealand a fiery start, racing off to 55/0 in the three allotted Powerplay overs. Guptill led the charge with clean hits to the leg side, clearing away anything in his arc to bring up a 19-ball 50, his joint-fastest in T20Is.

Munro (46) slowed down a tad after Guptill’s exit, but that didn't prevent him from becoming the fourth batsman to hit 100 sixes in T20Is. A combined nine sixes by the openers helped New Zealand to 83/0 after five overs, but England did well to give away only 12 runs from the next two overs.

A late cameo by Tim Seifert (39* off 16) then helped New Zealand collect 51 off the final four overs, as they ended on 146.

In response, England were pushed on the backfoot early, with New Zealand imposing a ‘full and straight’ policy on the openers. Cramping the batsmen for room, the Kiwi opening pair of Tim Southee and Trent Boult snared Tom Banton and James Vince in the first seven balls, leaving England at 9/2.

Jonny Bairstow did not let the double-strike derail the chase, resuscitating the dipping run-flow by deftly piercing gaps, especially behind the wicket. A 30-run stand with Eoin Morgan (17) helped chart a mini-recovery, but the England captain departed in the last over of the Powerplay, with the side requiring 108 off the final eight.

Sam Curran brought in a free-flowing spirit, carting Kuggeleijn for 20 runs off four balls; it opened the floodgates, as Bairstow matched him with three consecutive sixes off Ish Sodhi. The fifth and sixth overs produced 44 runs, just over 30% of the target, and brought England right back into the game.

A change of bowling, in the form of James Neesham and Mitchell Santner from either end, reaped benefits; Neesham sent back Bairstow, and Santner cleverly got rid of Sam Curran and Lewis Gregory, to keep the see-saw battle going.

With 36 needed in three, Tom Curran tried a few adventurous scoops with varying success, but kept chipping away, with Sam Billings at the other end. The two eventually needed 16 runs off the last over – the same equation as in the World Cup final.

Neesham gave away only three off his first three balls, also getting rid of Tom Curran in that time. But he lost his way thereafter, with Chris Jordan’s first three balls - a six, a two, and a four, levelling the scores and pushing the game into the Super Over.

Morgan and Bairstow slammed two sixes in the Super Over to set up an 18-run target. Jordan, however, gave little away - Seifert, opening with Guptill, carved out a four through covers off the second ball, but departed to an excellent diving catch by Morgan, leaving the Kiwis with 11 off the last two. They eventually fell short by nine runs.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1491111

 

[Aman]

But we wouldn’t have. It’s not our way. We might have a go at chippy whingers, but no dignified New Zealander like Williamson who takes it on the chin. We would just buy him a pint.

Tbf it's only Mamoon who's been bringing it up, I haven't come across an english poster on here who has.

Anyway, congrats on the series win. You have an absurd amount of depth in LOIs.

 

[nextover666666]

Guys why is everyone arguing over rugby World Cup and netball World Cup stick to the topic Congratz on England on winning the 5th T20. No one should bash New Zealand for losing the World Cup they got robbed with the extra runs coming off stokes is bat. Thier a great cricket nation and have a bright future look forward to see what both New Zealand and England do in the future

 

[Suleiman]

Man these two teams are hard to pick apart in terms of quality of play.

NZ doesn’t have a lot of well known guys but play superbly as a unit. Doubt they care about a random t20 series after daylight robbery early this year.

Hope they win the world t20 so they have at least some gold in some shape and form for their performances.