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England defeat South Africa by 104 runs to begin World Cup campaign on a strong note

Why are you checking the catch if you’ve determined it bounced after hitting the bat? Waste of time
 
Disagree, Shadab is a work in progress and his leg break isn't as good as the likes of Tahir or the Rashids. Imad is not a wicket-taker against top ODI teams. Hafeez maybe if he chucks whilst Malik and Haris are part-time.

It was ridiculous to not groom a specialist spinner in the last two years.

Shadab and Imad are specialist spinners just like Plunkett and Wood are specialist pacers and Markram is a specialist batsmen. You do not have to be as good as Tahir or Rabada to be considered a specialist.

Shadab and Imad have been backed for years now, there was no room for anyone else in the national team. Of course, there haven't been any outstanding spinners around the domestic circuit either.
 
This is why you should not insult players like QUOTA players etc. This guy earned his place.

Yes but some idiots on here will scream quota but say nothing when Heino Kuhn or Dwaine Pretorious do zilch.
 
Shadab, Imad, Hafeez, Malik and a little bit of Haris is more than enough spin.

Shadab has potential but he more often give 2-3 lose ball in every over ,also he coming from injury and rest all below average spinners
 
Keep living in the past mate. Denial is something. Well you will be shocked tomorrow.

Lol, apart from a couple of changes, both teams are exactly the same as they were two years ago.
 
After Pakistan series where they racked 350 plus for fun, England failed to reach 300 against OZ in warm up. Now they are in the danger of barely getting to 300.
 
Yes it does show it when the shot is played on a certain side however, they can easily show a small radar in between deliveries where one can see placements on both side and any filed change as well.

They have it on the Sky broadcast.
 
Yes but some idiots on here will scream quota but say nothing when Heino Kuhn or Dwaine Pretorious do zilch.

White South Africans have been pretty mediocre over the last few years, generally speaking. None of them have been able to establish themselves while the likes of Rabada, Ngidi and Bavuma have become prominent parts of the Proteas. The quota talk should stop.
 
Pak are to be blamed for engs performance they made eng feel like supermen after the 4-0 thrashing.

Now that they’re actually playing a team that can actually play a bit they're getting exposed!!
 
Even Phehlukwayo has shown more intelligence and game awareness with the bowl than Pak bowlers in recent times hopefully they can learn and turn it around
 
300 would be decent here I think because the pitch is just a tad slow, enough for the English bowlers to push for slower balls and for Rashid to have a say
 
I don't understand why you guys are mocking England. They'll easily get past 300 and 300 is a good score on any surface in any era. South Africa have to bat very well.
 
After Pakistan series where they racked 350 plus for fun, England failed to reach 300 against OZ in warm up. Now they are in the danger of barely getting to 300.

Where else other teams would not even have gotten to 250 England will still win this 310 will be enough as well
 
Pak are to be blamed for engs performance they made eng feel like supermen after the 4-0 thrashing.

Now that they’re actually playing a team that can actually play a bit they're getting exposed!!

Different conditions. This wicket is slightly slower than what we witnessed in Eng Pak series. Its ICC who is now in charge of wickets
 
Gilchrist's weakness was his recklessness, which is why he frequently threw away good starts and didn't score nearly as many tons against good attacks as he should have.

He didnt need too his role was to go gun blazing and he did with huge success and for the most part of his career he was facing likes to two Ws, Walsh, ambrose, and ATG SA attack.
 
Du Plesis needs to hurry up, innings should have been ended 5 minutes ago.
 
They didn't bat first at TB. Otherwise we mightve seen 500 :hasan2 If windies bat first tmrw, we might still see 500 scored.

Even Pak scored 3 consecutive 340+ scores on those tracks. In WC we will see more variety in nature of pitches hopefully
 
Finally 300. Their depth has brought them here. Whoever faces Bairstow and Buttler next time will feel the wrath lol
 
So what is this new wide rule umpires deciding themselves Plunkett didn’t have back away it was a huge wife ridiculous
 
SA proving that England are not as invincible as they would like us to believe. This is what a good leggie can do. We definitely missed Shadab in the series against them.
 
Slower balls is the key...Therefore no Hasnain or Shaheen tomorrow...hope Amir is fit...
 
saffers playing good here..English Attack is not threatening..Rashid moi..woakes plunket are your avergae bowlers but we make woakes n co into heroes
 
SAF have done excellently to peg England back.

However I expect English spinners to get something from this somewhat sluggish surface.
 
Slower balls is the key...Therefore no Hasnain or Shaheen tomorrow...hope Amir is fit...

Ironically when Hasan started he had 2-3 types of slower balls but I can't remember the last time he bowled one. Maybe the coaches have told him not to bowl it.
 
Relieved we're not having another 350+ bashfest.

Good total, but teams chasing have the advantage at The Oval.
 
Archer's west indian family will cheer from west indies? lol

He moved here with his family actually he even speaks like a britisher soft tone and that posh accent I didn’t realize he spoke like a white British person until I heard him speak for the first it was so weird cause his voice didn’t match his face
 
Moeen's attitude is rubbish. No mentality whatsoever.

Looks like he wants to be home.

He has been reckless for a long while now. Needs to get himself in before playing his shots - he has the ability to accelerate. Stokes was on 13 in 20 at one point and now he is striking at 110. Moeen needs to show more patience up front and not come out swinging all the time.

Moeen is the liability in this England team.

Bilal will defend Inzy, Moeen, Tahir and Amla for obvious reasons like his life depends on it.
 
Zero sixes in the last power play. Surprising.

Butler's wicket is the most important down the order for any team. He is the one guy who can completely change the dynamics. Others can hit. But not like Buttler. Same with Bairstwo up the order. Roy is a lottery guy.
 
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