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England defeat South Africa by 104 runs to begin World Cup campaign on a strong note

Faf should bring Tahir on again. SA may run through England yet.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
We cannot use the argument "same pitch for same". Why not England play on green pitches ? They will be utterly exposed like other teams. They can use green pitch as long as everybody else gets green pitch. England batting on flat pitch and others when they meet each other on green pitch is scheming.
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Home advantage and anyways it’s all gonna be flat pitches cause people want entertainment
 
These two are bowling beautifully. The pitch seems to lack pace so these medium pacer can do a great job bowling line and length.
 
Get Tahir to have a crack, it's SA's best chance. Pace, especially medium pace, will get slaughtered here if Morgan and Buttler get in.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
One hack too many.
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I’d take a hack like him over any batsman if he scores 50+ for me every match also this isn’t hacking mate this is modern day power batting you’re too big of a fan of Pakistani 80’s style batting so you wouldn’t be able to understand this.
 
If you bowl 10 overs 50 runs here that is a fantastic outstanding spell. even 10 overs 55 is a great spell.
 
Rabada strikes !! with 7 overs for Tahir left. England can collapse. Butler is not that comfortable against leggies.
 
Another one! One more wicket, and South Africa will be on top. No better time for Tahir to be brought on.
 
They should send in moeen Ali here because stokes is more of a hitter I honestly believe England need a another joe root type of a player after Morgan comes in cause if this type of a collapse happens and joe gets out they can’t rebuild
 
This is what we were all looking for. We were all fed up of an all out Assault by the english batsmen recently.. Oh Boy!. What the pressure of a world cup match and some good bowling does. Yes it makes cricket exciting.. Rather than seeing 2 teams smash each other all over the park and the match delivering 750 plus runs. This is much better!
 
lol have England gone into their shell? what are they going to do when the pressure is really on in do or die matches?
 
Ozymandiasza said:
England's batting lineup is ridiculously deep.
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You can walts back into the game. Stokes can bat like Misba Ul haq at times lol Keep him and use spinners against Morgan and Buttler. Once they are gone you can run through them. You need Buttler no matter what. He can destroy any bowling if he gets going.
 
This is the beauty. You can always stage a come back wiith 2 quick wickets. Having strike forces in the middle overs is a big bonus. You can capitalize on the pressure of new batsman.
 
England might still score 300 plus but it’s good some wickets fell cause atleast we won’t see people on jere crying omg these pitches are not good for cricket not fair to bowling etc etc
 
jnaveen1980 said:
We cannot use the argument "same pitch for same". Why not England play on green pitches ? They will be utterly exposed like other teams. They can use green pitch as long as everybody else gets green pitch. England batting on flat pitch and others when they meet each other on green pitch is scheming.
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ICC have there own curators in WC and every team has home advantage similar to India in 2011 and Australia in 2015.
 
South Africa should back themselves to chase anything around 300 to 310. This is not a great bowling unit .
 
Rabada ain't even that good.
He averaged 43 vs pak in the 5 match series.
 
Man this already feels too long. 9 matches per team in the group stages is too much cricket in this day and age considering these are ODIs as well. ICC administrators are absolutely brain-dead.
 
Ronaldo7 said:
Rabada ain't even that good.
He averaged 43 vs pak in the 5 match series.
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Rabdaa is a good test match bowler. He is not yet a full-fledged ODI bowler yet as he doesn't have enough good variations. Still a great bowler who can produce beauty of delivery out of nowhere.
 
Dios said:
Man this already geeks too long. 9 matches per team in the group stages is too much cricket in this day and age considering these are ODIs as well. ICC administrators are absolutely brain-dead.
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Your attention span must be really short then. Only 20 overs have been bowled and already you're complaining.
 
hassan747 said:
Roy is not a better batsmen than Root maybe be more destructive but not a better bat.
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In this day and age, a destructive batsmen with the capability of Roy is a better bat than a accumulator like Root. This is not 2000s, Roy has more value and his wicket is more prized.
 
Ngidi doing to South Africa what Wahab Riaz did to Pakistan in CT17 against India.

Pressure release bowler!
 
Morgan is looking really good

At one point people doubted him and wanted him out of the team. Would love a special innings from him
 
Experienced bowlers will be they key especially if the pitches are not gonna offer much and probably will be the case with most of the pitches.

The way Ngidi is going and Shaheen have bowled in Eng till now shows that. They need to learn quickly to create an impact in the tournament.
 
markham and duminy bowling...just shows this world cup we need to pack our batting. Hafeez..malik..fakhar and Haris if he plays are more than enough to get 10 overs in...which means there is no need for both imad and Shadab to play...but i KNOW for a fact both will and mess the balance of the team
 
Root v Roy

Root is the accumulator and Roy is the enforcer in this batting line-up, so they have different roles.

If we want to assess who's better I would look at their respect batting index, which can be derived from adding their averages and strike rates.


Root

Career Stats:

Average: 50.47 & Strike Rate: 87.15
Batting Index: 137.62

2019:

Average: 39.33 & Strike Rate: 98.61
Batting Index: 137.94

Roy

Career Stats:

Average: 40.80 & Strike Rate: 106.29
Batting Index: 147.09

2019:

Average: 80.40 & Strike Rate: 121.45
Batting Index: 201.85

Pretty clear to see who's the bigger asset with the bat for England in ODIs.
 
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hassan747 said:
:root true don't think he can comprehend the skills Rabada possess which make him as highly rated as is he is
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Not only that rabada is skillful he’s proven it everywhere every now and than so it’s not something you can even put up for debate he even was the number ranked bowler for quite some time in international cricket now some will say rashid khan is number 2 by playing minnows hat rankings don’t prove anything but rabada got that ranking by playing good sides so it does prove something
 
Omer2002 said:
markham and duminy bowling...just shows this world cup we need to pack our batting. Hafeez..malik..fakhar and Haris if he plays are more than enough to get 10 overs in...which means there is no need for both imad and Shadab to play...but i KNOW for a fact both will and mess the balance of the team
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You need atleast one proper spinner in the team. SA is also playing tahir, Duminy and Markham arent good enough to bowl 10 overs in between then in every match and that is why SA is playing 4 pacers out of which two can bat and one spinner, Duminy and Markham are just to fill in overs.
 
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jnaveen1980 said:
Faf is a shrewd, tough guy. He will manage the resources well
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I dont think you can these days on these flat wickets, you just need bowlers who bowl well. you cant hide anyone anymore batsmen will target you whenever you bowl.
 
No Pakistani, Bangladeshi or New Zealand representation in the comm box on the opening day of the world cup
 
Titan24 said:
Experienced bowlers will be they key especially if the pitches are not gonna offer much and probably will be the case with most of the pitches.

The way Ngidi is going and Shaheen have bowled in Eng till now shows that. They need to learn quickly to create an impact in the tournament.
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But I do believe Hafeez supported by Haris and Malik can be a decent 5th bowling option if they want to drop one of the spinners.
 
I saw someone's coment on fb

Amir or Husnain say attack krwayain.
Amir say longer spell krwaya jaye 4-6 overs ka.

Husnain agar achi bowling krta hy to Powerplay k end tk lga rehny dain.

Powerplay k foran baad Hafeez ko ly aana chahiye Hassan Ali k saath. 18 over k baad Shadab or Haris ko b ly aayain.

25 over complete honay k baad wahab ko kisi ek spinner k saath continue krain.

Or Wahab k saath Amir ka ek short spell krwayain 35 say 40 over tk.

Hasan or Husnain say 40 say 45 tk over krwany k baad aakhri 5 dubara Amir or Wahab finish krain.
 
topspin said:
Root is the accumulator and Roy is the enforcer in this batting line-up, so they have different roles.

If we want to assess who's better I would look at their respect batting index, which can be derived from adding their averages and strike rates.



Root

Career Stats:

Average: 50.47 & Strike Rate: 87.15
Batting Index: 137.62

2019:

Average: 39.33 & Strike Rate: 98.61
Batting Index: 137.94

Roy

Career Stats:

Average: 40.80 & Strike Rate: 106.29
Batting Index: 147.09

2019:

Average: 80.40 & Strike Rate: 121.45
Batting Index: 201.85

Pretty clear to see who's the bigger asset with the bat for England in ODIs.
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Roots the first name of the team sheet for England management.
 
Darkness said:
I saw someone's coment on fb

Amir or Husnain say attack krwayain.
Amir say longer spell krwaya jaye 4-6 overs ka.

Husnain agar achi bowling krta hy to Powerplay k end tk lga rehny dain.

Powerplay k foran baad Hafeez ko ly aana chahiye Hassan Ali k saath. 18 over k baad Shadab or Haris ko b ly aayain.

25 over complete honay k baad wahab ko kisi ek spinner k saath continue krain.

Or Wahab k saath Amir ka ek short spell krwayain 35 say 40 over tk.

Hasan or Husnain say 40 say 45 tk over krwany k baad aakhri 5 dubara Amir or Wahab finish krain.
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Brilliant. Send him to England asap 🤤
 
Andile bowling well. Sad he's been labelled as a quota player.

Thought his performances v Pakistan would've been a slice of humble pie.
 
hassan747 said:
Roots the first name of the team sheet for England management.
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Tell em man he’s the backbone of the English cricket team the reason they have him is to hold the innings together which him makes him so vital and the first name on the sheet like you said
 
hassan747 said:
Roots the first name of the team sheet for England management.
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No that's Morgan, but I'm not interested in who's the first name in the England team sheet, this is about Root v Roy because I see a lot of armchair experts firing away with no credible insight whatsoever.
 
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If Plunkett is coming in at 10...thats a diamond gun line up....I guess 320+ is on the cards, flat deck, good outfield, 2 new balls....et al.....i'd still back Faf and Saf to chase whatever Eng put on the board...Eng bowling ain't that hot....lets see what Archer has to offer though-will be xciting to c him...
 
Feel that SAF could do with another proper spinner with Tahir for these middle overs.

Take pace off the ball.
 
I don't think so Root is England's favourite son. Maybe I'm slightly biased as he's from Sheffield like myself.
 
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I always find it surprising that cricket broadcast never shows a small radar showing field placements considering what an important part of the game is that. As a viewer I would love to know where fielders are placed and thus what kind of shots batsmen can try.
 
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