England players being booed for taking a knee considered 'a racist act?

[KingKhanWC]

England players being booed for taking a knee considered 'a racist act' by officials, according to senior football administrator

Kick It Out chief executive Tony Burnett issues a rallying call to supporters to 'drown out the idiots' until the situation becomes a non-issue; England boss Gareth Southgate's pleas to respect the gesture were once again ignored by a small section of crowd at Romania game on Sunday

A senior football administrator has told Sky Sports News that officials consider the booing of England's players taking a knee as "a racist act", and fans who do so can no longer hide behind the excuse that they are protesting against some political aspects of the Black Lives Matter movement.

It comes after England boss Gareth Southgate's pleas to respect the anti-discrimination gesture were once again ignored by a small section of fans during the side's final Euro 2020 warm-up game against Romania.

The official goes on to say that because Southgate and the players have made it clear their gesture is a call for social justice and an end to discrimination in football, anyone who boos that gesture is showing they are clearly against the drive for racial equality.

"We can't necessarily call the people who are booing racists, but it's now absolutely clear that the booing is a racist act," he says. "And going forward, that's how we need to tailor our response, in terms of how we react to the booing."

https://www.skysports.com/football/...ls-according-to-senior-football-administrator

Wow, now if you boo the knee at a football game its a racist act. But they also say it doesnt mean you're racist lol.

Football fans pay good money to watch live, they can boo , cheer, clap or stay silent.

The racism angle has gone too far now.

Does anyone believe its a racist act to boo sports stars taking the knee?

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

https://www.skysports.com/football/...ls-according-to-senior-football-administrator

Wow, now if you boo the knee at a football game its a racist act. But they also say it doesnt mean you're racist lol.

Football fans pay good money to watch live, they can boo , cheer, clap or stay silent.

The racism angle has gone too far now.

Does anyone believe its a racist act to boo sports stars taking the knee?

Is it racist/islamophobic to boo Muslims when they are bowing down for Sajdah during prayers?

 

[Double Trouble]

As Asian growing up in the north of England playing semi pro football the racism at football matches is shocking.

Supporters throwing bananas, making monkey noises and p***ing on Asian & Black players whilst the police nearby just smiling away.

It’s these thugs who were booing in the England game.

Pure racist

 

[KingKhanWC]

Is it racist/islamophobic to boo Muslims when they are bowing down for Sajdah during prayers?

Yes. Difference is football fans PAY to attend matches, they have every right to show their pleasure or otherwise when in the stadium as long as there is no racist words/actions.

As Asian growing up in the north of England playing semi pro football the racism at football matches is shocking.

Supporters throwing bananas, making monkey noises and p***ing on Asian & Black players whilst the police nearby just smiling away.

It’s these thugs who were booing in the England game.

Pure racist

We dont know this. The majority or at the least HALF the stadium was booing. Are you suggesting half of England fans are racist?

Also

If Zaha racist for not taking the knee? He would boo too possibly.

 

[Halaribo]

https://www.skysports.com/football/...ls-according-to-senior-football-administrator

Wow, now if you boo the knee at a football game its a racist act. But they also say it doesnt mean you're racist lol.

Football fans pay good money to watch live, they can boo , cheer, clap or stay silent.

The racism angle has gone too far now.

Does anyone believe its a racist act to boo sports stars taking the knee?

Take the logic you've applied in this post of yours.

Then apply it to some of the issues you say are harmful or disrespectful to Muslims.

How do you reconcile the fact that what you're saying here would completely contradict the posts in which Muslims are a target?

And no, Zaha would not boo. Zaha doesn't take the knee because he feels it won't change anything. He's right, because the people are booing it. And you're saying it's okay for them to do it. That's Zaha's whole point.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Take the logic you've applied in this post of yours.

Then apply it to some of the issues you say are harmful or disrespectful to Muslims.

How do you reconcile the fact that what you're saying here would completely contradict the posts in which Muslims are a target?

And no, Zaha would not boo. Zaha doesn't take the knee because he feels it won't change anything. He's right, because the people are booing it. And you're saying it's okay for them to do it. That's Zaha's whole point.

They are booing taking the knee, ie booing politics in sport. They are not booing black players, so this has no comparison at all.

Yes its ok to show annoyance at politics in sport. Some have come on air, to make good points.

If you believe its racist act to boo, you must also accept half of England fans(if not more) are racist?

 

[Bewal Express]

Although taking the knee has lost its impact, what is obvious is that those that are booing are mainly racists. If a player wants to take the knee then that is his right, especially when he thinks his group of people have been unfairly targeted. As i said i wasnt much of a fan of it before, but i would carry on doing until i retire. If these fans dont like it, they can get lost.

 

[street cricketer]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] is living in cuckoo land if he thinks those who boo the players taking the knee would have a favourable view of muslims.

It's been interesting seeing the reaction of segments of fans in England the past few days. Ollie Robinson got greeted with loud cheers at the start of second day after he got criticised for historic racist tweets and the English football team comprising of quite a few black players has been getting booed for taking the knee. And then the PM and his advisor have taken a pretty political stand on it.

 

[MenInG]

The people booing England players 'taking a knee' are an "ignorant minority" who need "educating", says former England captain Rio Ferdinand.

England players were booed before two games last week as they made the gesture to highlight racial injustice.

Ferdinand told the BBC those that booed were "being heard loud and clear".

He added: "They are part of the problem. These people need to be educated. I think half of them don't even know what they're booing for."

After England were booed by a minority of supporters before their two Euro 2020 warm-up games in Middlesbrough, manager Gareth Southgate said that "some people aren't understanding the message" with taking a knee, stressing that it is not "a political stand".

Southgate said his players would continue taking a knee and, in an open letter he wrote for The Players' Tribune, said it was their duty to "continue to interact with the public on matters such as equality, inclusivity and racial injustice".

Speaking on BBC Breakfast, former centre-back Ferdinand said: "If [people who booed] had listened to Gareth Southgate in his press conferences and what the players have said, taking the knee is not about politics.

"There are a lot of people, I feel stupid people, making excuses and using politics as a reason they don't agree or they're booing players taking the knee.

"Listen, educate yourself, be informed and then you won't be booing."

However, Tory MP Brendan Clarke-Smith wrote on Facebook at the weekend that taking a knee "now comes across as little more than habitual tokenism and has lost its effect".

He added that "the mixing of politics and football had disastrous consequences" and questioned whether players "really want to carry the political baggage that comes with taking the knee".

And England fan Andrew, who was at both games last week, told Radio 1 Newsbeat he booed to show his objection to what he sees as "an identity politics agenda that focuses on black people and skin colour, when as far as I am concerned we are all England fans regardless of colour".

"Some seem to genuinely believe booing is an act of racism - I reject that," he adds.

Meanwhile, following the news that "offensive material" in historical tweets by some England cricket players was being investigated, Ferdinand added: "Don't just punish people, there needs to be an education element that goes alongside it.

"Looking back at our past tweets is right - I feel people need to be shown the wrongs they've done - but the bigger element for me is education.

"With punishment alone, these things keep occurring, because there isn't the education that backs it up."

BBC

 

[The_KING]

If I was a fan, I would boo too. No need for politics in football. People watch sports because it’s way of escapism from the harsh realities of this world. The last thing most people want is to be constantly reminded of what’s happening in the world, when they watch sports. Booing during this token gesture doesn’t make someone a racist. People are just sick and tired of it.

 

[in_cutter]

If I was a fan, I would boo too. No need for politics in football. People watch sports because it’s way of escapism from the harsh realities of this world. The last thing most people want is to be constantly reminded of what’s happening in the world, when they watch sports. Booing during this token gesture doesn’t make someone a racist. People are just sick and tired of it.

It’s a cause not politics.

Yea they are now milking it but that does not justify the booing.

 

[The_KING]

It’s a cause not politics.

Yea they are now milking it but that does not justify the booing.

Fans have every right to boo or cheer during the match. If people don’t like the boos, then do this stupid knee thing in the dressing rooms instead of doing it in front of cameras for attention purposes.

And it is politics.

 

[street cricketer]

If I was a fan, I would boo too. No need for politics in football. People watch sports because it’s way of escapism from the harsh realities of this world. The last thing most people want is to be constantly reminded of what’s happening in the world, when they watch sports. Booing during this token gesture doesn’t make someone a racist. People are just sick and tired of it.

Would you support if people booed football players bringing Palestinian flags on to the field too?

 

[Technics 1210]

The booing and jeering is another way of saying - do not mix sports with politics.

Nothing racist about this.

Woke culture is destroying this country.

 

[IMMY69]

Taking the knee is a way of standing up to racism.

It is not politics... it's about the way of life and for people to stand up against prejudices which are rife in this Uk and the rest of the world.

So Once again, taking the knee is a way of standing up to racism.

When you are against such a cause or you boo when they do it, then what does that say about you?

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Yes. Difference is football fans PAY to attend matches, they have every right to show their pleasure or otherwise when in the stadium as long as there is no racist words/actions.



We dont know this. The majority or at the least HALF the stadium was booing. Are you suggesting half of England fans are racist?

Also

If Zaha racist for not taking the knee? He would boo too possibly.

Is it fine to boo Muslim players when they do sajdah after scoring a goal or scoring a century?

Crowd didn’t pay to see that

 

[Technics 1210]

Taking the knee is not standing up to racism, it’s standing side by side with the BLM movement/trend.

 

[street cricketer]

Taking the knee is not standing up to racism, it’s standing side by side with the BLM movement/trend.

What's wrong with saying Black lives matter.

Are you part of the "All lives matter" brigade?

 

[IMMY69]

When I see players taking the knee I don't think of BLM.

In fact I think only a minority of people think of BLM.
The majority know it's about inequality and racism.

 

[Varun]

England have lost the plot in trying to make this anti-racism thing succeed.

They should stop immediately, go home, re-strategize, and come back with a better plan.

There won't be any meaningful difference in racism incidents/statistics as they go about this.

The BLM movement in the US is cacaphonic and a nuisance, but has generated far more traction that their cousins across the Atlantic where they've seemingly been stuck getting out of the garage.

 

[Technics 1210]

What's wrong with saying Black lives matter.

Are you part of the "All lives matter" brigade?

This is a good example of media brainwashing folks. Media would have you believe that only blacks are victims of racism.

Standing up to racism is not the same as standing side by side with BLM.

 

[topspin]

Taking the knee is to express equality and solidarity for victims of racism. If you have an issue with it cut to the chase and admit you're racist rather then beating around the bush.

 

[topspin]

Taking the knee is not standing up to racism, it’s standing side by side with the BLM movement/trend.

Mask coming off again it seems [MENTION=21699]Pakpak[/MENTION]

 

[Technics 1210]

The banners - stand up against racism - are more than enough. No need to get political. If players wanted to show solidarity for the people of Palestine and took the knee, it would not go down too well.

If you allow 1 political movement in sports, you must allow others. Hence why politics and sports shouldn’t mix.

The line must be drawn. The banners will suffice.

 

[King-Misbah]

Taking the knee is to express equality and solidarity for victims of racism. If you have an issue with it cut to the chase and admit you're racist rather then beating around the bush.

Isn't it a political move? Hypocrisy when you can't say Free Palestine but can take the knee. I have no issues with BLM but atleast don't have dual policies.

 

[IMMY69]

Very eye opening documentary on channel 4 called

"The truth about police: stop and search".

It was presented by Jermaine Jenas..

When I watch shows like these and talk with my black and mixed race friends it makes me want to applause the players that take the knee, not boo or defend those that boo

 

[Halaribo]

They are booing taking the knee, ie booing politics in sport. They are not booing black players, so this has no comparison at all.

Yes its ok to show annoyance at politics in sport. Some have come on air, to make good points.

If you believe its racist act to boo, you must also accept half of England fans(if not more) are racist?

Kick It Out and Gareth Southgate have been quite clear on what taking the knee means for them and their thoughts on it.

Fans don't have to be booing the black players. Your line of reasoning is akin to those who think Muslim people are fine but then go on to insult our faith.

Here is where I stand on it.

The players stated their actions are not political or affilated with BLM the political movement.

Therefore I can only interpret that as a cause. If people have an issue with this, then I don't want to see any remembrance day silences or poppies on football shirts etc etc. Would you hear booing for that?

It's the hypocrisy I can't tolerate. So many issues are political under the guise of a cause but they're tolerated. What is so different about this?

Ultimately, yes, the knee is pointless in the bigger picture. It's a token gesture.

But that booing to me is the exposing of what exists out there and what needs to be fought against. I don't buy the argument it's about keeping politics separate.

Which ties in again with Zaha's point.

That's why I wouldn't boo or criticise these actions because I am not going to side for one moment with any genuine racists.

No, not all those booing are racist, but yes, 100% there are racists among them.

I'll say though that 100% none of those booing would stand up for me or you and what we hold dear to us.

 

[street cricketer]

Isn't it a political move? Hypocrisy when you can't say Free Palestine but can take the knee. I have no issues with BLM but atleast don't have dual policies.

What are you talking about..

Manchester United players and Leicester players supported the recent crisis in Palestine with Palestinian flags and nobody booed them for it and rightfully so too.

 

[Technics 1210]

England have lost the plot in trying to make this anti-racism thing succeed.

They should stop immediately, go home, re-strategize, and come back with a better plan.

There won't be any meaningful difference in racism incidents/statistics as they go about this.

The BLM movement in the US is cacaphonic and a nuisance, but has generated far more traction that their cousins across the Atlantic where they've seemingly been stuck getting out of the garage.

This.

Forcing the BLM movement has had the reverse effect.

UK (and USA) have been trying to tackle racism with all sorts of media stunts for decades, and the result is racism has been on the rise (woke definition) and certainly the perception of it through the media.

It’s not about the message, but rather how its conveyed. Don’t need the obvious rammed down our throats 24/7. Education begins at home, not the internet/media.

 

[Halaribo]

Isn't it a political move? Hypocrisy when you can't say Free Palestine but can take the knee. I have no issues with BLM but atleast don't have dual policies.

And then you have this sort of pettiness.

How sincere is your jihad for justice when it doesn't include everyone who deserves it?

Does something have less merit because something else isn't given enough?

 

[IMMY69]

Taking the knee is a human right issue not a political issue.

 

[IMMY69]

For the umpteenth time...

Footballers taking the knee is not showing support for BLM...

 

[Halaribo]

Very eye opening documentary on channel 4 called

"The truth about police: stop and search".

It was presented by Jermaine Jenas..

When I watch shows like these and talk with my black and mixed race friends it makes me want to applause the players that take the knee, not boo or defend those that boo

Indeed.

I admit I am generalising here and could very likely be wrong, but I do get the feeling there's some inherent prejudice against black people which is coming to the fore in many posts around this subject.

I don't know how one can so vociferously stand up for Muslims and their faith yet ignore the plight of others who face injustice.

I like Omar Suleiman's activism in the US around the duty we have as Muslims towards causes like this.

 

[Halaribo]

For the umpteenth time...

Footballers taking the knee is not showing support for BLM...

Yup, to conflate this issue with BLM is an intentional misrepresentation.

 

[The_KING]

Would you support if people booed football players bringing Palestinian flags on to the field too?

They would have every right to. I wouldn’t like it as it’s an issue that is close to my heart but fans have every right to express their opinion.

And it’s funny how you have clubs like Arsenal warning their players for showing support for Palestine. But they are more than happy to take the knee. Talk about double standards.

 

[Technics 1210]

Lewis Hamilton taking the knee with the T-Shirt - Black Live Matter

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ilton-backs-end-drivers-taking-knee-race.html

Lets stop pretending taking the knee is a humanitarian issue, it’s clear as daylight that taking the knee is all about BLM.

 

[Technics 1210]

This is why taking the knee is now viewed as a racist act, because BLM is itself a racist organisation/movement.

 

[street cricketer]

They would have every right to. I wouldn’t like it as it’s an issue that is close to my heart but fans have every right to express their opinion.

And it’s funny how you have clubs like Arsenal warning their players for showing support for Palestine. But they are more than happy to take the knee. Talk about double standards.

You wouldn't think those who boo bringing Palestinian flags onto the field as islamophobic in the slightest?

 

[Technics 1210]

Let us recall when Moeen Ali was reprimanded for supporting the Palestinians because - wait for this - he was wearing a wristband. A wristband while on the field.

The duplicity displayed by sporting boards is obvious as well as their desperate attempts at pandering to the woke left.

 

[IMMY69]

Taking the knee was before George Floyd and it started with an American footballer taking the knee.
It has nothing to do with BLM.

However this does not mean that black lives don't matter.

 

[Technics 1210]

‘ Kaepernick was initially moved to protest by the deaths of African-Americans at the hands of police or while in police custody. These deaths gained prominence through the media and the Black Lives Matter movement in the years immediately preceding the protest.[30] During a post-game interview on August 26, 2016, he stated, "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color.To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder", adding that he would continue to protest during the anthem until he feels like "[the United States flag] represents what it's supposed to represent."[31][32]’

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._national_anthem_protests_(2016–present)

Taking the knee is all related to BLM, in his own words, a movement which started in 2013 - 3 years before taking the knee became a thing.

So as i said, lets stop pretending taking the knee is about a humanitarian cause, it all traces back to BLM.

 

[IMMY69]

Taking the knee was before George Floyd and it started with an American footballer taking the knee.
It has nothing to do with BLM.

 

[Technics 1210]

BLM existed before the footballer took the knee, and in his own words. He did so because of racism towards blacks highlighted by BLM movement.

It must be tough, but facts don't care about feelings.

 

[IMMY69]

I think if you're hanging onto the fact that people have followed someone else's example to make a protest and that makes it political or part of some other group then you're really clutching at straws.

 

[Technics 1210]

The American footballer you cling to in an attempt to describe taking the knee as a humanitarian cause disagrees with you. You like to cite documentaries, go watch his.

The only one clutching straws is you and it shows.

 

[topspin]

I think if you're hanging onto the fact that people have followed someone else's example to make a protest and that makes it political or part of some other group then you're really clutching at straws.

No point arguing with that deranged fool. It's clear that all of those days of excessive clubbing, drinking and drug taking have got to his head.

 

[topspin]

Isn't it a political move? Hypocrisy when you can't say Free Palestine but can take the knee. I have no issues with BLM but atleast don't have dual policies.

As mentioned by Immy, it is humanitarian not political. Taking the knee pre-dates the BLM movement.

 

[Technics 1210]

Moving on.

The point of Palestinian flags at football matches.

'But both Uefa and the International Olympic Committee were unable to provide assurances that they would not be punished for doing the same at next week’s Europa League final or this summer’s European Championship and Olympics.'

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....carry-palestine-flag-around-old-trafford/amp/

Read carefully, Uefa unable to provide assurance that players would not be punished. Talking the knee for BLM is game, but showing the flag of Palestine cannot provide assurances.

Sigh. The woke folk love the media, are obsessed with the media, worship the media - but fail to read the media.

Hypocrisy all round.

 

[The_KING]

You wouldn't think those who boo bringing Palestinian flags onto the field as islamophobic in the slightest?

I would. But I believe that issue of Palestine is a real issue while this issue of racism is blown way out of proportion by this BLM loving people.

 

[Technics 1210]

I would. But I believe that issue of Palestine is a real issue while this issue of racism is blown way out of proportion by this BLM loving people.

Palestine will never become an issue for the masses unless the media start reporting so, and until the media do, society will not care.

The power of nightmares.

 

[The_KING]

Palestine will never become an issue for the masses unless the media start reporting so, and until the media do, society will not care.

The power of nightmares.

It’s double standards. Taking a knee is linked with BLM movement which is linked with politics. If showing support for Palestine is linked with politics, and that has no place in sports then same applies to taking the knee.

 

[street cricketer]

I would. But I believe that issue of Palestine is a real issue while this issue of racism is blown way out of proportion by this BLM loving people.

"The issues concerning my people is a real one while the issues concerning other people isn't so much."

 

[IMMY69]

"The issues concerning my people is a real one while the issues concerning other people isn't so much."

Shocking isn't it?

Do these people think before typing?

 

[IMMY69]

No point arguing with that deranged fool. It's clear that all of those days of excessive clubbing, drinking and drug taking have got to his head.

You are right.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

The England football team has genuinley the worst fans in the world. The people booing the knee are racists hiding behind a false argument.

I personally think taking the knee is silly but i'd be mature enough not to boo players from my own team as it clearly means something to them.

 

[Technics 1210]

It’s double standards. Taking a knee is linked with BLM movement which is linked with politics. If showing support for Palestine is linked with politics, and that has no place in sports then same applies to taking the knee.

100% agree, taking the knee is a BLM political stunt, which is why sports should either allow political protests, or none at all

Yet we have clear cut evidence that taking the knee for BLM in sport is fine because its flavour of the year with the media, but Palestinians flags waved by players cannot even protect players from punishment by sporting bodies.

The reality is that anyone who disagrees with woke standards is now deemed a racist - welcome to double standards.

 

[street cricketer]

100% agree, taking the knee is a BLM political stunt, which is why sports should either allow political protests, or none at all

Yet we have clear cut evidence that taking the knee for BLM in sport is fine because its flavour of the year with the media, but Palestinians flags waved by players cannot even protect players from punishment by sporting bodies.

The reality is that anyone who disagrees with woke standards is now deemed a racist - welcome to double standards.

You're turning the argument to suit your agenda, which is not really the point of discussion here.

The question is not about whether international sporting bodies are impartial or not. They may well not be, given most of these tend to be western and thereby the obvious bias towards Israel.

The question in this thread is whether those fans who boo the football players taking the knee are racist or not. If fans booed the football players bringing Palestinian flags onto the field, I would tend to think they're racist too.

 

[Technics 1210]

You're turning the argument to suit your agenda, which is not really the point of discussion here.

The question is not about whether international sporting bodies are impartial or not. They may well not be, given most of these tend to be western and thereby the obvious bias towards Israel.

The question in this thread is whether those fans who boo the football players taking the knee are racist or not. If fans booed the football players bringing Palestinian flags onto the field, I would tend to think they're racist too.

I wasn't debating with you but to answer your question, the only reason why those booing to those taking the knee is even remotely considered racist is simple because of the woke generation. Why? Because people who do not agree with woke standards are deemed racists by the woke generation.

As for Palestinian flags, a point which you brought up, it's clear, sporting bodies have different standards. Why was Moeen Ali reprimanded for wearing a wristband supporting a Palestinian cause? Got an asnwer? If so, lets read it.

As it has been said, sports and politics shouldn't mix, if you allow one political stunt, then you must allow others - if not, none at all.

Now don't change the subject when your point on Palestinian flags proves the hypocrisy practised by sporting bodies.

 

[Technics 1210]

For the record, I am a season ticket holder at Brentford. I pay to see the players play football, not make a political statement. I have every right to boo, jeer, cheer, and applaud.

 

[someone21]

The thing is when does it end? The elites are so proud of themselves by taking a knee, yet have done little to resolve the issue. It's all symbolism and eventually, too much symbolism becomes only marketing and publicity stunt. This is what is has become today.

 

[IMMY69]

The thing is when does it end? The elites are so proud of themselves by taking a knee, yet have done little to resolve the issue. It's all symbolism and eventually, too much symbolism becomes only marketing and publicity stunt. This is what is has become today.

You should say this to the black players and see how they reply.

 

[someone21]

You should say this to the black players and see how they reply.

The thing is black players have also questioned this. Example. Zaha of Crystal Palace. The idea that one aren't black enough or don't understand black issues if do not agree with "the knee", itself is racist and problematic.

Doing it constantly makes it flimsy, imagine somebody doing that in office daily.

 

[KingKhanWC]

[MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION] is living in cuckoo land if he thinks those who boo the players taking the knee would have a favourable view of muslims.

It's been interesting seeing the reaction of segments of fans in England the past few days. Ollie Robinson got greeted with loud cheers at the start of second day after he got criticised for historic racist tweets and the English football team comprising of quite a few black players has been getting booed for taking the knee. And then the PM and his advisor have taken a pretty political stand on it.

You're in cuckkoo land if you think those who are NOT booing will have a favourable position of Muslims.

Not sure how, but you are amazing if you can determine the minds of people & their thoughts by them booing.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Is it fine to boo Muslim players when they do sajdah after scoring a goal or scoring a century?

Crowd didn’t pay to see that

Strange you cant see the simple differnece and others on this thread too.

They are not booing people of a certain colour, faith or ethnicity. They are booing an act, which is taking the knee. This was introduced along with BLM slogans in the ground, on the tv and on the pitch.

Those claiming this is not political are simply ignorant of the events before the knee was introduced into football, it was on the back of Floyds death, the BLM protests and decision to support this movement in sport(football).

We had red card to racism, kick racism out of football already present. These are not the same as taking the knee or BLM, both political gestures & movements. The previous attempts havent worked & neither will this. IT has only caused further divide, more intolerenace.

 

[Technics 1210]

You should say this to the black players and see how they reply.

Yet more proof that taking a knee is just about blacks players, BLM. No mention of Asian players facing racism.

Taking a knee is a humanitarian cause my foot. It's a BLM stunt.

I replied for prosperity, not to the user.

 

[Technics 1210]

Strange you cant see the simple differnece and others on this thread too.

They are not booing people of a certain colour, faith or ethnicity. They are booing an act, which is taking the knee. This was introduced along with BLM slogans in the ground, on the tv and on the pitch.

Those claiming this is not political are simply ignorant of the events before the knee was introduced into football, it was on the back of Floyds death, the BLM protests and decision to support this movement in sport(football).

We had red card to racism, kick racism out of football already present. These are not the same as taking the knee or BLM, both political gestures & movements. The previous attempts havent worked & neither will this. IT has only caused further divide, more intolerenace.

Indeed, and said users who are weeping over those booing over the knee are only concerned about black players.

Racism affects all people, but no, the media has managed to brainwash the masses, in particular Arsenal supporters it seems.

Taking the knee is, and will remain, a political stunt.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Indeed, and said users who are weeping over those booing over the knee are only concerned about black players.

Racism affects all people, but no, the media has managed to brainwash the masses, in particular Arsenal supporters it seems.

Taking the knee is, and will remain, a political stunt.

Asian, French, Spanish, German plays have all been abused from the stands. They claim its for all but while the knee is being taken, BLM sign is projected on the big screen & sometimes on the TV too. BLM was promoted in order for Biden to win the election and its laughable everyone fell for the democratic strategy.

Kick out racism was fine, everyone supported it as it was generic. BLM is not liked by millions of football fans because its specific to one race, the knee came along with BLM. Those who try to distance the two, simply have no clue of the world.

 

[Technics 1210]

Asian, French, Spanish, German plays have all been abused from the stands. They claim its for all but while the knee is being taken, BLM sign is projected on the big screen & sometimes on the TV too. BLM was promoted in order for Biden to win the election and its laughable everyone fell for the democratic strategy.

Kick out racism was fine, everyone supported it as it was generic. BLM is not liked by millions of football fans because its specific to one race, the knee came along with BLM. Those who try to distance the two, simply have no clue of the world.

Kick out racism is the perfect universal message. It doesn't pigeon hole or focus on a particular race. Taking the knee on the otherhand sends the message that black lives matter MORE than others and will backfire immensely. It should be booed at till the rafters come falling down as BLM itself is a racist movement. Heck, even the founder of BLM knows this which is why she bailed on the movement she founded.

Once again the woke left are hell-bent on destroying every aspect society with their nonsense.

 

[IMMY69]

Problem with all the other campaigns, whilst they meant well and had some success, you simply can't ignore the discrimination people of colour and in particular black people receive in our society.

You don't have to support the whole BLM movement to appreciate players taking the kneel and thereby continuing to highlight racism.

You also don't have to support the kneeling but booing it? What does that say?

 

[Manunited18]

Taking the knee was before George Floyd and it started with an American footballer taking the knee.
It has nothing to do with BLM.

However this does not mean that black lives don't matter.

But all this makes no difference, like john Barnes who I completely agree with stated, racism is a society issue, to root the problem out goes way beyond sport events.

 

[IMMY69]

But all this makes no difference, like john Barnes who I completely agree with stated, racism is a society issue, to root the problem out goes way beyond sport events.

Sadly John Barnes is absolutely right.

The issue is not the act but the reaction to it.
Why would people feel like they have to boo the players from taking a stand against racism?

Doesn't leave much room for discussion when people are booing

 

[Manunited18]

Sadly John Barnes is absolutely right.

The issue is not the act but the reaction to it.
Why would people feel like they have to boo the players from taking a stand against racism?

Doesn't leave much room for discussion when people are booing

Agree, it's so sad even in the 21st century it's still a humongous issue, the only way to even disturb the issue I believe is to highlight in education settings and it has to be made compulsory as one of the main subjects only then people may show more respect

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Strange you cant see the simple differnece and others on this thread too.

They are not booing people of a certain colour, faith or ethnicity. They are booing an act, which is taking the knee. This was introduced along with BLM slogans in the ground, on the tv and on the pitch.

Those claiming this is not political are simply ignorant of the events before the knee was introduced into football, it was on the back of Floyds death, the BLM protests and decision to support this movement in sport(football).

We had red card to racism, kick racism out of football already present. These are not the same as taking the knee or BLM, both political gestures & movements. The previous attempts havent worked & neither will this. IT has only caused further divide, more intolerenace.

Booing Muslim players doing sajdah would also be booing an act

 

[guna]

The white guilt is an amazing thing.

 

[street cricketer]

I wasn't debating with you but to answer your question, the only reason why those booing to those taking the knee is even remotely considered racist is simple because of the woke generation. Why? Because people who do not agree with woke standards are deemed racists by the woke generation.

As for Palestinian flags, a point which you brought up, it's clear, sporting bodies have different standards. Why was Moeen Ali reprimanded for wearing a wristband supporting a Palestinian cause? Got an asnwer? If so, lets read it.

As it has been said, sports and politics shouldn't mix, if you allow one political stunt, then you must allow others - if not, none at all.

Now don't change the subject when your point on Palestinian flags proves the hypocrisy practised by sporting bodies.

There's a difference between the two scenarios and you're just not grasping it.

When Moeen Ali wears a wrist band that says "Free Palestine", next some Jewish player with sympathies with Israel might wear a "Long live Israel" wrist band. And some Pakistani player might wear "Free Kashmir" wrist band to which in retaliation, some Indian player might wear "Free Balochistan" or some Afghan player might wear "Free Pashtunistan". It will descend into an endless *** for tat battle that will turn the international game into chaos. I mean you already saw something of that sort happening when planes flew banners with Free Kashmir and Free Balochistan above the ground of world cup games.

When a football player takes a knee on the field, there's nothing confrontational about it except saying that the lives of black people isn't cheap and they do matter. Ideally this shouldn't cause a confrontation like the examples in the above paragraph, but then again, if you wish, you can take a knee for Brown lives matter or White lives matter or All lives matter. Nobody's stopping you.

 

[street cricketer]

Shocking isn't it?

Do these people think before typing?

If there's one thing that hindu conservatives and muslim conservatives have in common, it's their deep seated prejudice towards the blacks.

 

[The_KING]

"The issues concerning my people is a real one while the issues concerning other people isn't so much."

Great way of twisting my words. And besides racism isn’t as big an issue today as BLM loonies make it out to be. We made a lot of progress in race relations over the last 50 years, but BLM ruined everything. The issue of Palestine is a far bigger issue than some black criminal getting killed by the police. I can’t take losers like Lewis Hamilton seriously, when he is playing the race card despite having most privilege than most white people.

 

[Technics 1210]

Great way of twisting my words. And besides racism isn’t as big an issue today as BLM loonies make it out to be. We made a lot of progress in race relations over the last 50 years, but BLM ruined everything. The issue of Palestine is a far bigger issue than some black criminal getting killed by the police. I can’t take losers like Lewis Hamilton seriously, when he is playing the race card despite having most privilege than most white people.

Spot on.

The definition of racism - to discriminate based on race [colour of skin] - has all been lost. We now live in a woke culture where the lefty loon are more dangerous despite not being elected into power, such is their woke media influence. The brainwashed amoeba are at full flow even in this thread, you do not agree with the woke warped thinking, you are labeled a racist. Complete detachment to what racism really is.

Lewis Hamilton is a pleb. He weeps and hollows over racism, take the knee with a BLM t-shirt, but is happy to accept an award from white privilege [knighthood from the Queen].

The real danger to society in not the rightwing, not terrorists, but the looney woke left.

 

[street cricketer]

Great way of twisting my words. And besides racism isn’t as big an issue today as BLM loonies make it out to be. We made a lot of progress in race relations over the last 50 years, but BLM ruined everything. The issue of Palestine is a far bigger issue than some black criminal getting killed by the police. I can’t take losers like Lewis Hamilton seriously, when he is playing the race card despite having most privilege than most white people.

Great points.

1. Palestine is a much bigger issue than blacks getting killed by cops as they're criminals anyway.

2. Lewis Hamilton isn't entitled to talk about black rights because he made it to the top and that immediately disqualifies him from talking about black people's lives being respected.

 

[Manunited18]

Great way of twisting my words. And besides racism isn’t as big an issue today as BLM loonies make it out to be. We made a lot of progress in race relations over the last 50 years, but BLM ruined everything. The issue of Palestine is a far bigger issue than some black criminal getting killed by the police. I can’t take losers like Lewis Hamilton seriously, when he is playing the race card despite having most privilege than most white people.

Surely your being sarcastic when you mention Hamilton, who had to work his backside off to get to the privilege position he's in today as possibly the Greatest sportsman from the United kingdom ever.