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Hope Shastri and the team aren't punch drunk after the Aussie tour. This England side with Root and Anderson in red hot form are absolutely DEMOLISHING Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka and are going to hit the ground running in Chennai on February 5.

We need to be on our guard and make sure half the team doesn't capsize to injuries again. As we've seen before in 2012, it isn't impossible for a couple of handy spinners and a class batsman or two to beat us even in home conditions.
 
It's SL. if we'll take this performance seriously, we should pack up our bags and call it quit from cricket altogether.
 
Varun said:
Hope Shastri and the team aren't punch drunk after the Aussie tour. This England side with Root and Anderson in red hot form are absolutely DEMOLISHING Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka and are going to hit the ground running in Chennai on February 5.
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Even though we should take every cricket playing nation seriously however, England white washed SL last time they visited their shores so its not something new they're doing.

Root & Jimmy are class players though and we should be wary of them, Root especially was in great nick during their last trip to India just that he couldn't convert them into bigger scores like Kohli did in that series.
 
Varun said:
Hope Shastri and the team aren't punch drunk after the Aussie tour. This England side with Root and Anderson in red hot form are absolutely DEMOLISHING Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka and are going to hit the ground running in Chennai on February 5.

We need to be on our guard and make sure half the team doesn't capsize to injuries again. As we've seen before in 2012, it isn't impossible for a couple of handy spinners and a class batsman or two to beat us even in home conditions.
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Why would you think they will take Eng lightly? Is there any chance that any team can beat other team on merit rather than coz the beaten team taking the other team lightly? This is now becoming a trend after Ind-Aus series.
 
Also, its been a while since any of our guys hit double tons in tests. Want to see at least 3-4 double tons from them in this series.
 
Please, take us lightly!

It’s the only way that we might win. lol
 
James said:
Please, take us lightly!

It’s the only way that we might win. lol
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Having a feeling that England will either draw or win this series.

Indians must be drained out after The Fall Of Gabba. They gave everything they had plus their soul for it.
 
Who in SL team, are we comparing Kohli, Rahane, Pujara, Bumrah. Gill, Ashwin, Rohit, Pandya, Shastri with.
 
Varun said:
Hope Shastri and the team aren't punch drunk after the Aussie tour. This England side with Root and Anderson in red hot form are absolutely DEMOLISHING Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka and are going to hit the ground running in Chennai on February 5.

We need to be on our guard and make sure half the team doesn't capsize to injuries again. As we've seen before in 2012, it isn't impossible for a couple of handy spinners and a class batsman or two to beat us even in home conditions.
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England don’t have the good spinners this time, and their batting line is a lot weaker. Unless Crawley suddenly turns into Cook.
 
England openers look clueless against spin and if they are 2 wickets down for next to nothing against India it will be more difficult for the likes of root and bairstow etc.. to bail england out.

Only way for England to compete in india is putting up big runs all the time 450 scores usually par so that means the batsmen need to do there job, otherwise they will get steam rolled again
 
We have Ravi 'The Tracer Bullet' Shastri which Sri Lanka does not have.

Shastri has scores to settle to British media.
 
Behensto will hit a double hundred in India.

Mark my words
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Indians must be drained out after The Fall Of Gabba. They gave everything they had plus their soul for it.
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Most of the bowlers in the 4th Test against Australia won't even play against England. Kohli will be fresh because he only played one game and some of the batsmen (Gill, Sharma, Pant etc.) came into the XI later. Only ones who you could say would be drained are Pujara and Rahane since they played all 4 Tests. Even then, they have a decent break before the first Test as compared to England.
 
You're not winning in india without quality spinners.

While typing this lanka's no 9 and 10 are whacking english spinners all over the parks says a lot

Last time swann and panesar took 50 odd wickets which was pivotal for that victory

Players in the likes of root and stokes may succeed because of their quality but that alone won't be enough to draw the series let alone winning
 
Mickey Arthur and Grant Flower showing their class and quality with the Sri Lankans as well. I predict a very short stint for these two unlike the PCB
 
After the Aus series I am absolutely sure that our team is being run by some very shrewd, talented and motivated individuals possessing much greater cricketing intelligence than us angry young keyboard tacticians. England is a powerhouse and they won't be taken lightly.
 
In another universe, James Taylor would have been England's Test skipper and would scored over 10 centuries by now.

Eng bat deep and with Root, Stokes, Buttler, Anderson and Broad, they are the big boys. Arguably better than NZ and Aus in these conditions.(NZ has no spinner to be taking 5fers inning after inning. Aus are weak against offspin). It's just the trio of Sibley, Burns and Crawley that worries me, otherwise they have a pretty solid lineup. Stokes is probably the only two cricketers in one in the world.
Leach and Bess are good spinners, don't lose their senses when things aren't going their way.

Batting first with a big first inning total should be the key in the series.
 
Sri lanka is a very and I mean a very poor side and also lackadaisical at the same time.

I wouldn't take this cricket seriously its men against boys
 
Bairstow will not play first 3 tests. We need to neutralise Root and Buttler, rest should be okay. I do not think anyone is taking them lightly especially after seeing how they are playing in Lanka!
 
TNAmarkFromIndia said:
Most of the bowlers in the 4th Test against Australia won't even play against England. Kohli will be fresh because he only played one game and some of the batsmen (Gill, Sharma, Pant etc.) came into the XI later. Only ones who you could say would be drained are Pujara and Rahane since they played all 4 Tests. Even then, they have a decent break before the first Test as compared to England.
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Pujara would be like a kid in lollipop store trying to get as many candies as possible. On the low bounce pitches if he gets in he will make it big.
Guy has 3 triples before the age of 23 and his debut.
 
England will be whitewashed without any doubt because they cannot play spin at all. Even if they play 2 tests with Bangladesh they will loose one test.
Australia was lucky not to tour India otherwise they will be whitewashed for sure.
 
I have a gut feeling ENGLAND is going to win the series against India in the coming tour.. Indians are on a high, they probably thinking ENG is a walk over, no one is giving ENG a chance, I feel they will shock the Indians...
 
Savak said:
Mickey Arthur and Grant Flower showing their class and quality with the Sri Lankans as well. I predict a very short stint for these two unlike the PCB
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Exactly!!!! If Micky and Grant got players with merit by an honest selector we could have better position then where he left off.
 
England need spinners to take more than 0 wickets, otherwise it's really difficult
 
Shafi said:
England will be whitewashed without any doubt because they cannot play spin at all. Even if they play 2 tests with Bangladesh they will loose one test.
Australia was lucky not to tour India otherwise they will be whitewashed for sure.
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At all? Let us not by hyperbolic. Root 228 and 186 in two tests against SL. Moeen got two centuries on the last tour of India, and Stokes got one.
 
Robert said:
At all? Let us not by hyperbolic. Root 228 and 186 in two tests against SL. Moeen got two centuries on the last tour of India, and Stokes got one.
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This is classic analysis based on scoreboard. Those were first innings flat wickets. By this logic Agarkar and Kumble are champions of swinging conditions in Eng.
 
So after predicting that we will lose 4-0 in aus the same set of posters are predicting a win for england.
3-1 3-0 or 4-0 are the only results possible.
Please dont forget that this time we have a great Pace attack along with ATG spinners.So its not like 2016 where you can pummel our pacers and play safely vs spin. Bumrah will be making his debut on Indian Soil, Ishant is back and Ashwin is on an all time high after winning us a series in AUS.
 
The Indian pitches are a lot different to Sri Lankan pitches. If England wins tosses, this could be a great series to watch. If India wins tosses, it will be a massacre of epic proportions.
 
Robert said:
At all? Let us not by hyperbolic. Root 228 and 186 in two tests against SL. Moeen got two centuries on the last tour of India, and Stokes got one.
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Moeen is finished!!! Root is declined as well plus India's bowling has improved so much since that. I cannot see England has a chance in India, may be they can win couple of matches in home soil. England lost to WI that's tell how poor team they are.
 
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At all? Let us not by hyperbolic. Root 228 and 186 in two tests against SL. Moeen got two centuries on the last tour of India, and Stokes got one.
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Root, Stokes and possibly Buttler will make runs. Moeen is not the same , he has regressed and i dont think that he has a confirmed spot in the playing eleven.
Our Pacers will take more wickets then Spinners .
 
To beat teams like India and Australia at their home, the opposition needs to have bowlers who are relentless and don't give an inch. Leach and Bess are good bowlers sure, but not sure they are capable of holding the Indian line up especially in 1st, 2nd and 3rd innings when conditions are good for batting. Anderson and one of Archer/Broad HAVE to feature in all matches to limit this Indian line up. Tough ask but England is well prepared this time. India is actually not so well prepared as they've played ZERO cricket in India this season.
 
Its certainly not gonna be walk in park. We fans haven't completely woken up from that win, let alone Shastri and co who must be at all-time high, they probably need a couple of days to wake up.

Hopefully, we don't lose a test match by the time our HTBs woke up and do what they do best.

Behenstrokes has already tweeted, "Coming soon, India". The guy can win them a test match alone.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Root, Stokes and possibly Buttler will make runs. Moeen is not the same , he has regressed and i dont think that he has a confirmed spot in the playing eleven.
Our Pacers will take more wickets then Spinners .
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We have a long history of building and rejuvenating careers.of players. So I won't underestimate Moeen. England has been our bogey team in last decade or so.
 
Shafi said:
England will be whitewashed without any doubt because they cannot play spin at all. Even if they play 2 tests with Bangladesh they will loose one test.
Australia was lucky not to tour India otherwise they will be whitewashed for sure.
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Please check how they are piling up runs against SL bowlers where the ball is spinning like anything.
 
RajBan said:
Please check how they are piling up runs against SL bowlers where the ball is spinning like anything.
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In India around 65% to 70% of wickets in the last 5+ years have been taken by pacers and not spinners. Ishant, Yadav, Shami, Bhuvi all average less than 26 in India. Bumrah hasnt even played in India yet

Pacers will be the real threat to England and not spinners
 
Forward Defensive Push said:
The Indian pitches are a lot different to Sri Lankan pitches. If England wins tosses, this could be a great series to watch. If India wins tosses, it will be a massacre of epic proportions.
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We have lost only 1 single test in last 9 years at home. In over half of them we had lost the toss. So don't think toss matters at all
 
Just to add to the above, our home track record since 2013 1st Jan, is

34 matches, won 28, lost 1, draw 5 (so 85% matches have had results and only 15% were draw)

We won 17 tosses and lost 17 tosses

We won 14 batting first and won 14 batting second

And as said before, majority of our wickets were by pacers and not spinners
 
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England has won previous 9/10 tosses against us in tests. 4/5 in 2016-17 and 5/5 in 2018. Also won the WC toss. It has to even out some time.
 
It'll be a fun series. England will be a tough opposition for India. They are doing very well against SL, although SL is quite poor. I predict a 2-1 for India. If India loses the series, questions will be raised about Kohli's captaincy.
 
Dom Bess or Leach can totally do a Steve O' Keefe in 1 or 2 tests.

Will be interesting to see England's battle against spin with their sweeps and reverse sweeps.
 
If England does win it will mean more pressure on Kohli's captaincy which isn't bad. Kohli is holding this team back, an easy win here and he will have freedom to destroy careers of more youngsters in the future.
 
Do you guys think Gill, Pant, Sundar and Siraj will get a single game under Kohli?

I am expecting this lineup which English should fancy their chances against.

Rohit
Mayank
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Axar
Saha
Ashwin
Thakur
Ishant
Bumrah

Youngsters have no chance under our legendary captain, they can only get in if we suffer an Adelaide like humiliation at home.
 
Swashbuckler said:
Kohli is holding this team back, an easy win here and he will have freedom to destroy careers of more youngsters in the future.
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An aussie writer on Fox Sports said he was in touch with several indian journalists and they mentioned to him that the indian players play for Kohli when he is the skipper whereas with Rahane they play for the team. Are we being knee-jerk here or is there a hint of truth in that Rahane fosters a more relaxed environment for the team?
 
Swashbuckler said:
Do you guys think Gill, Pant, Sundar and Siraj will get a single game under Kohli?

I am expecting this lineup which English should fancy their chances against.

Rohit
Mayank
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Axar
Saha
Ashwin
Thakur
Ishant
Bumrah
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Mayank was dropped from the 3rd Test due to poor form, not injury. Why will he get his spot back as an opener over Gill?

Pant is a question mark. Team management have preferred Saha at home and Pant overseas.

Sundar and Siraj can't say because there's Kuldeep and Ishant Sharma they have to contend with.
 
Swashbuckler said:
Do you guys think Gill, Pant, Sundar and Siraj will get a single game under Kohli?

I am expecting this lineup which English should fancy their chances against.

Rohit
Mayank
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Axar
Saha
Ashwin
Thakur
Ishant
Bumrah

Youngsters have no chance under our legendary captain, they can only get in if we suffer an Adelaide like humiliation at home.
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Gill will be there for sure. Toss up between Sundar and Pandya for AR spot. Sundar should be the one if that is the case. Siraj will be there for Thakur. Pant also will be there.
 
england could contest against india at home but in india will be an issue and i expect a dominant india win
 
Swashbuckler said:
Do you guys think Gill, Pant, Sundar and Siraj will get a single game under Kohli?

I am expecting this lineup which English should fancy their chances against.

Rohit
Mayank
Pujara
Kohli
Rahane
Axar
Saha
Ashwin
Thakur
Ishant
Bumrah

Youngsters have no chance under our legendary captain, they can only get in if we suffer an Adelaide like humiliation at home.
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Pant and Gill will play, not sure about Washi, i think Kuldeep will be preferred over him which will be fair.
Washi doesn't have the skills needed for an off spinner to survive in test cricket.
He is more of a batting allrounder in tests.
 
Thomaskutty said:
An aussie writer on Fox Sports said he was in touch with several indian journalists and they mentioned to him that the indian players play for Kohli when he is the skipper whereas with Rahane they play for the team. Are we being knee-jerk here or is there a hint of truth in that Rahane fosters a more relaxed environment for the team?
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Kohli is playing for the team, if u play for your captain you are basically playing for your team.
This " Salute to the rising Sun" is getting boring now.
It is quite possible that Rahane fails in this series and his spot comes under scrutiny.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
We will be out of the WTC if this happens.
A finals spot is at stake here. We do not need blessing in disguise here.
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Nobody will remember WTC which is a distraction based on nonsensical calculations in the name of COVID effect.
 
jeeteshssaxena said:
Kohli is playing for the team, if u play for your captain you are basically playing for your team.
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You read it wrong .. playing for your captain meaning constantly being aprehensive about what he thinks and looking for his validation, given the hold he has over the BCCI.

Just asking. Regardless, I want Kohli back as captain as well.
 
WengerOut said:
Nobody will remember WTC which is a distraction based on nonsensical calculations in the name of COVID effect.
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Imagine a rematch v the Aussies at the WTC final at Lords, and they'll be wanting revenge. That would be a blockbuster spectacle ..
 
Thomaskutty said:
Imagine a rematch v the Aussies at the WTC final at Lords, and they'll be wanting revenge. That would be a blockbuster spectacle ..
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It will be the same if Aussies come to India or India going to Australia next time. And that is normal course. I think WTC is a result of ICC over analysing to bring a solution to a problem which never existed. Test cricket always had context. JAMODIs, i can understand.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Having a feeling that England will either draw or win this series.

Indians must be drained out after The Fall Of Gabba. They gave everything they had plus their soul for it.
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Yea this is a massive advantage eng have.

It really is unfair that ind can't have Atleast one months rest after a monumental tour of Australia.

Pujara and rahane must be done
 
WengerOut said:
It will be the same if Aussies come to India or India going to Australia next time. And that is normal course. I think WTC is a result of ICC over analysing to bring a solution to a problem which never existed. Test cricket always had context. JAMODIs, i can understand.
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No it didn't.

Indian fans would not have shown half the interest they showed in the recent NZ home series' if not for the championship and India's dependence (of sorts) on NZ's results.

You could say the same with NZ fans/players and the upcoming series in India and South Africa. Outside of the big 3 , Test cricket was going nowhere prior to the WTC. It may not be perfect and I agree it's scheduling and format is a little meh...but it is something and I'm sure it'll pay dividends in the future.
 
freelance_cricketer said:
Having a feeling that England will either draw or win this series.

Indians must be drained out after The Fall Of Gabba. They gave everything they had plus their soul for it.
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Yea this is a massive advantage eng have.

It really is unfair that ind can't have Atleast one months rest after a monumental tour of Australia.

Pujara and rahane must be done
 
Who will take wickets for England except Anderson.(who is toward end of his career). India would play England spinners comfortably.
 
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Indian fans and their pessimism :facepalm

England are in for a phainty like 2016. This time we have ruthless seam attack as well. People are reading too much into SL series. SL are bordering minnows these days.
 
sindhiboy said:
Yea this is a massive advantage eng have.

It really is unfair that ind can't have Atleast one months rest after a monumental tour of Australia.

Pujara and rahane must be done
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The good thing is, those players won't be playing in these tests.
 
I think Jimmy Anderson might not last the whole India tour - 2 tests in SL plus 4 in India at his age & with his fitness? England should have had managed his workload better.
 
dildilpak said:
I think Jimmy Anderson might not last the whole India tour - 2 tests in SL plus 4 in India at his age & with his fitness? England should have had managed his workload better.
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But he didn't play first SL test?
 
It will be great to see Eng doing well in the Indian series. A well contested series is fun to watch.
 
Buttler will only play first test and will return afterwards while Bairstow will only play last two due to rotation and workload management during this season. Buttler will be a big miss I think, on of those players who can completely change the momentum of the games anywhere,
 
India are still firm favourites. They have a far superior seam attack to Sri Lanka so I'd expect them to examine English techniques more sternly.

Plus, Embuldeniya showed the openers aren't comfortable facing spin albeit Sibley played well in this 2nd innings.

England's pace attack is better than 2016. Archer, Wood and Stone can make something happen on flat pitches in contrast to the typical 80mph right arm medium pacers England have often carried abroad. Broad is better than ever while Anderson will be important in the D/N Test.

The spinners are an upgrade on 2016 too, however they'll need support from the pitches. India's batsmen are also much better players of spin than Sri Lanka.

The biggest question is of fatigue. England will hope India's gruelling schedule and a litany of injuries will take its toll.
 
India favorite. But after this Indian tour, we have seen no team should be underestimated..

If players are playing test at the highest level, they are qualified to win.
 
If we had a deadly left arm spinner like Jadeja and our 2 skiddy reverse swing quicks in shami and umesh at our disposal, we would have buried England. Now I'm not sure. Can our guys score big hundreds after that OZ tour? Lots of questions for India to answer
 
India should take care of root like kohli was taken care of in 2014 england tour. Wrapping up the series is a matter of time.
 
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