'England stars could quit in future if barred from IPL ' : Ashley Giles

[Saj]

IPL 2021: Pietersen wants cricket boards to not schedule international games during tournament

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cricket boards need to realise that the <a href="https://twitter.com/IPL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IPL</a> is the biggest show in town. <br><br>DO NOT schedule ANY international games whilst it’s on. <br><br>V v v simple!</p>— Kevin Pietersen&#55358;&#56719; (@KP24) <a href="https://twitter.com/KP24/status/1377961629187457024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[cricketjoshila]

Double headers are only on the weekend. Not on weeknights. So in a league setup it will add 2-3 weeks to the current 2 months.

$2.6 Billion is not being paid to rush things through so international series can resume.

When 10 teams or 9 teams played there were more double headers. IPL has a 8 week window and they have to adjust within that.

 

[OMB]

Double headers are only on the weekend. Not on weeknights. So in a league setup it will add 2-3 weeks to the current 2 months.

$2.6 Billion is not being paid to rush things through so international series can resume.

yes you are right about Broadcasters demand but at the same time till 2023 (future tours programme) BCCI cannot get a longer time slot. so there is no other way. BCCI will either have to have more double headers with maybe 9 teams or else revert to group games format with 10 teams.

 

[AMSS]

When 10 teams or 9 teams played there were more double headers. IPL has a 8 week window and they have to adjust within that.

BCCI cannot adjust if the broadcaster, who holds the purse, won't let it adjust. And the broadcaster is perhaps even more profit minded than the sharks at BCCI.

Neither the BCCI nor the broadcasters are going to respect this useless window when there are billions to be made.

 

[AMSS]

[MENTION=152613]U$ofA[/MENTION]

Just as I had posted above, the BCCI boffins have done their math. Look at this news.

The Indian board doesn't just have IPL's economic interests to protect but is also eyeing an expansion of the window in the coming years as it increases the number of franchises from the existing eight to nine this year and 10 going forward.

"That'll mean 90-plus matches. That's what the BCCI will want to protect, a window for those many games. That is what will guarantee the IPL top dollar when its media rights tender comes out at the end of the year. There's huge interest. Expect the per-match broadcast price of an IPL game to crash the Rs 100-crore mark. This is going to be big-game hunting," market sources say.

 

[AMSS]

Just look at the numbers.

BCCI currently earns INR 53 crores from each IPL match. They are expecting this figure to breach the 100 crore barrier when the next cycle of rights are awarded.

But we have our Joshila brother who think BCCI can be this ambitious and somehow adjust to the window by playing double headers on weekdays.

If BCCI succeeds, the size of the next IPL broadcast rights deal would hit USD 6.2 billion from the current USD 2.55 billion. That'll break the international calendar.

 

[AMSS]

Currently, each IPL side has an average squad size of 25 players and a purse size of USD 10 million.

If the BCCI succeeds in getting the broadcast deal of its fevered dream, then it will double the team purse size. This is necessary to make the boards around the world feel the pressure from their own players.

With 10 teams, the IPL will have an annual purse size of USD 200 million to splurge on 250 players. Good luck to the boards everywhere to resist that.

 

[Artaxerxes]

There is a precedent already.Top players defected to Kerry Packer's WSC in 1977 and created a headache for cricket boards.Cricketers are playing IPL to make money.It is big money so they will be willing give up their careers and just play IPL.

 

[princeuk]

Boards around the world will be scared to take on the BCCI for fear of repercussions. Players will go on strike if they aren't allowed to play in tournaments like the IPL.

This is the danger when one Board has so much power and is basically controlling cricket, instead of the governing body controlling the sport.

This. The ECB resisted the temptation to complain about the pitches in India despite the BCCI doing a dirty on them but the ECB dont have any leveridge over the BCCI anymore and dont want to ruin their relationship with them because of this whole IPL thingy so just has to lump it, here is to more crappy tracks in India for the english players

 

[cricketjoshila]

This. The ECB resisted the temptation to complain about the pitches in India despite the BCCI doing a dirty on them but the ECB dont have any leveridge over the BCCI anymore and dont want to ruin their relationship with them because of this whole IPL thingy so just has to lump it, here is to more crappy tracks in India for the english players

Doing dirty? If English players cant play spin its whose fault?

 

[cricketjoshila]

BCCI cannot adjust if the broadcaster, who holds the purse, won't let it adjust. And the broadcaster is perhaps even more profit minded than the sharks at BCCI.

Neither the BCCI nor the broadcasters are going to respect this useless window when there are billions to be made.

Thing is that no broadcaster has ever dictated to the BCCI. Broadcasters adjust to Bcci conditions.

There are many broadcasters, but there is only one IPL and one BCCI.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Just look at the numbers.

BCCI currently earns INR 53 crores from each IPL match. They are expecting this figure to breach the 100 crore barrier when the next cycle of rights are awarded.

But we have our Joshila brother who think BCCI can be this ambitious and somehow adjust to the window by playing double headers on weekdays.

If BCCI succeeds, the size of the next IPL broadcast rights deal would hit USD 6.2 billion from the current USD 2.55 billion. That'll break the international calendar.

IPL window expansion means English players may not be available for some matches. Aussie NZ SA players may not be available for some matches.

A even bigger issue is that Team India has to finish its international commitments 15 days prior to the IPL, so even the Indian international season gets affected.

IPL starting in April 1st week and ending in may last or june 1st week gives 8-9 week window. That can cover 90 matches with double headers on Friday Saturday Sunday.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Currently, each IPL side has an average squad size of 25 players and a purse size of USD 10 million.

If the BCCI succeeds in getting the broadcast deal of its fevered dream, then it will double the team purse size. This is necessary to make the boards around the world feel the pressure from their own players.

With 10 teams, the IPL will have an annual purse size of USD 200 million to splurge on 250 players. Good luck to the boards everywhere to resist that.

IPL purse is nearly 12 mn.

 

[rhony]

Just look at the numbers.

BCCI currently earns INR 53 crores from each IPL match. They are expecting this figure to breach the 100 crore barrier when the next cycle of rights are awarded.

But we have our Joshila brother who think BCCI can be this ambitious and somehow adjust to the window by playing double headers on weekdays.

If BCCI succeeds, the size of the next IPL broadcast rights deal would hit USD 6.2 billion from the current USD 2.55 billion. That'll break the international calendar.

You are right for the most part but there's a caveat to that. IPL needs international stars as much as they need IPL. These stars are typically from Aus, NZ, Eng and SA. BCCI',s carrot will be a series with those countries at their home more frequently. They can extend the IPL window but it will happen gradually and not to the extent where Bilaterals between these countries will suffer. As far as other countries go, you will see 1 test, 3 T20I series- with ODIs probably scrapped altogether or played the next year.

It will be a game of balance where all 5 parties involved need to win.

 

[U$ofA]

Just look at the numbers.

BCCI currently earns INR 53 crores from each IPL match. They are expecting this figure to breach the 100 crore barrier when the next cycle of rights are awarded.

But we have our Joshila brother who think BCCI can be this ambitious and somehow adjust to the window by playing double headers on weekdays.

If BCCI succeeds, the size of the next IPL broadcast rights deal would hit USD 6.2 billion from the current USD 2.55 billion. That'll break the international calendar.

That is a huge % increase. Will comfortably be the biggest TV deal in cricket. At that kind of money, they are not going cramp anything in the schedule. They will stretch it as much as they can, without going overboard. Because the broadcasters will need to make a profit too.

I am guessing Disney will be the frontrunner again.

 

[cricketjoshila]

That is a huge % increase. Will comfortably be the biggest TV deal in cricket. At that kind of money, they are not going cramp anything in the schedule. They will stretch it as much as they can, without going overboard. Because the broadcasters will need to make a profit too.

I am guessing Disney will be the frontrunner again.

At 2.5bn IPL is the second biggest TV in cricketdeal on per match basis. Biggest being the international matches TV rights of BCCI.

With Sony Reliance Amazon Facebook being interested in the rights, Disney will hardly be in a position to dictate terms to BCCI.

There will be many bidders and only one IPL. So no broadcaster is going to tell Bcci how to schedule the matches.

 

[AMSS]

You are right for the most part but there's a caveat to that. IPL needs international stars as much as they need IPL. These stars are typically from Aus, NZ, Eng and SA. BCCI',s carrot will be a series with those countries at their home more frequently. They can extend the IPL window but it will happen gradually and not to the extent where Bilaterals between these countries will suffer. As far as other countries go, you will see 1 test, 3 T20I series- with ODIs probably scrapped altogether or played the next year.

It will be a game of balance where all 5 parties involved need to win.

How they will arrive at a solution is something that will reveal itself in the fullness of time. My point was that Joshila's conviction that somehow the BCCI and Broadcaster would stick to the 6 week window with double headers on weekdays is absurd.

 

[AMSS]

There will be many bidders and only one IPL. So no broadcaster is going to tell Bcci how to schedule the matches.

The problem here is that you think BCCI and the broadcasters stand in an adversarial relationship. The truth is their financial interests merge in this case so they will act in concert.

 

[AMSS]

That is a huge % increase. Will comfortably be the biggest TV deal in cricket. At that kind of money, they are not going cramp anything in the schedule. They will stretch it as much as they can, without going overboard. Because the broadcasters will need to make a profit too.

I am guessing Disney will be the frontrunner again.

IPL needs more region and state specific engagement. As of today, the IPL has 6 such regions/states/cities that are completely ready to have an IPL team in terms of spending power - Pune, Amdavad/Gujarat, Lucknow/Awadh, Kerala, Andhra, and Haryana.

While the forthcoming broadcast cycle will see addition of two more IPL teams, it's a given that the following round of rights auction would see inclusion of 4 more teams. An IPL season of 180+ matches.

 

[TheNightWatchman]

In a heart beat. A decade down the line, it will be just like football. International breaks for important tournaments and club cricket round the year.

You can't compare a global sport to a colonial one. Indians being crazy about cricket is the reason IPL is so big. Other cricket leagues aren't even close to as big as IPL. It's a monopoly. Laliga isn't the only player in town, theirs premiere league, series A, Bundes liga and others. If the same players are playing for different teams around the world it doesn't make sense. Imagine Messi playing for Man U and Barca and bayern at the same time. Just not enough players. You're just gonna see IPL all year round.

IPL is succesful for the same reasons League football is succesful . You're pitting the best vs the best. The teams are balanced and the further the divide becomes between the top 4 international teams vs bottom 6 the stronger IPL's case becomes.

 

[princeuk]

Doing dirty? If English players cant play spin its whose fault?

Ummm, they can play spin did you not watch the first test match between England and India, India panicked and then produced crappy pitches thereafter.

 

[rhony]

Ummm, they can play spin did you not watch the first test match between England and India, India panicked and then produced crappy pitches thereafter.

They won the toss every game and batted first in the 3rd and 4th games. Crappy pitch or not, they were just abysmal. India never complains about pitches in Kohli era. Other teams should focus on playing par cricket atleast instead of defeating themselves

 

[princeuk]

They won the toss every game and batted first in the 3rd and 4th games. Crappy pitch or not, they were just abysmal. India never complains about pitches in Kohli era. Other teams should focus on playing par cricket atleast instead of defeating themselves

How can indian players complain about pitches in other countries when the pitches the BCCI approve of are like playing on a worn torn outfield.

And also England won in Sri Lanka so they clearly know how to play spin, they are a top ranked team not languishing at the bottom of the table that they dont know how to play spin. Give them a proper pitch and they can play.

 

[Oxfordchamp]

How can indian players complain about pitches in other countries when the pitches the BCCI approve of are like playing on a worn torn outfield.

And also England won in Sri Lanka so they clearly know how to play spin, they are a top ranked team not languishing at the bottom of the table that they dont know how to play spin. Give them a proper pitch and they can play.

Nasser Hussain, Mike Atherton and other experts themselves said England need to learn to play on spin pitches and they need to prepare better in future.

 

[CanadianG00se]

How can indian players complain about pitches in other countries when the pitches the BCCI approve of are like playing on a worn torn outfield.

And also England won in Sri Lanka so they clearly know how to play spin, they are a top ranked team not languishing at the bottom of the table that they dont know how to play spin. Give them a proper pitch and they can play.

England were facing bunch of noobs in SL but in India they were facing ATG spinner plus rampaging debutant who bamboozled English batsmen. England were lucky that Jadeja was injured or else things would have been much more worse for them.

English are as good at playing spin as Indians are at playing swing.

 

[ads101]

In a heart beat. A decade down the line, it will be just like football. International breaks for important tournaments and club cricket round the year.

I agree it eventually will be. Maybe a decade is too soon, but I think it will happen some time. Having a domestic system like football is far more profitable in terms of bringing in money from the actual people of the country, you aren't as reliant on touring big countries. And of course domestic cricketers will be much better compensated. And of course by implementing a system like this standard (at least in T20s) will improve. There will also be less of these big useless signings, the guys getting the big wages will be performing consistently not just given a huge contract one year and flop.

Yes I enjoy international cricket more, but if a domestic system could be introduced like football that is far more exciting and higher standard to watch, I think I would be open to it. A lot of us are hypocrites, we happily watch domestic football teams, but moan if cricket tries to do the same despite it being the naturally more profitable, self-sustaining option.

I'm not sure I would like a football system or not. But one thing that does sway me is the plight of domestic cricketers. They toil out there in Pakistan for little money, and often in empty grounds as no one cares. The vast majority of cricketers in Pakistan are not regulars in internationals. This would be a way of adequately paying those cricketers so they can better support their families, and more chances for cricketers to rise through the ranks and earn their keep rather than solely relying on that international chance which may never come. I feel rather sorry for them really, it's not fair, we rely on a domestic structure to produce those international standard cricketers yet don't care about the rest of the domestic players who by playing allow that to happen.

 

[Devadwal]

Again @Mammon was right. England players will participate in IPL 2021 in UAE .England IPL stars are likely to come along with the Indian team from Manchester to Dubai for IPL 2021 in the same charter flight for the bubble to bubble transfer.

 

[MRSN]

Well we all now know money can buy happiness.

 

[MRSN]

International bilateral series should be dumped. Each nation plays these circus leagues and then we can have a world cup after 4 years. The future of cricket looks quite bleak to be honest. Who would have thought a bilateral FTP tour will be dumped to allow Eng players play for IPL.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Where is that Ashley Giles thread?

 

[globalcitizen]

Covid has wreaked havoc..so unfortunate. But health is important, hope Bangladesh gets out of this current covid wave

 

[IMMY69]

Covid has wreaked havoc..so unfortunate. But health is important, hope Bangladesh gets out of this current covid wave

Tell that to the Aussies who are playing in Dhaka as we speak

 

[Rana]

Wait let me get this straight...

So England are sending a team to Bangladesh whilst their are English players going to IPL also?

 

[Ashmal]

Wait let me get this straight...

So England are sending a team to Bangladesh whilst their are English players going to IPL also?

BD tour cancelled

 

[Rajdeep]

Wait let me get this straight...

So England are sending a team to Bangladesh whilst their are English players going to IPL also?

BD tour is postponed to March 2023 amidst rise in covid cases. English players would play in IPL due to that.

 

[U$ofA]

BD tour cancelled

BD tour is postponed to March 2023 amidst rise in covid cases. English players would play in IPL due to that.

How "convenient" for the ECB players.

 

[Rana]

BD tour cancelled

Right so Ashley Giles has proven to be a liar?

 

[Ashmal]

Right so Ashley Giles has proven to be a liar?

Technically not

 

[Rana]

Technically not

Are our IPL friends a little bit too early as usual?

 

[Last Monetarist]

BD tour is postponed to March 2023 amidst rise in covid cases. English players would play in IPL due to that.

No, the coronavirus hasn't got anything to do with it, not when the Australians are in Bangladesh right now. At least, try and be plausible.

The BCCI successfully lobbied both boards as reported here:

https://www.aninews.in/news/sports/cricket/ipl-2021-bcci-confirms-england-players-availability-for-league-in-uae20210803104859/

Speaking to ANI, sources in the know of developments said the BCCI has received the green signal from the England and Wales Cricket Board on the participation of the English players and is the perfect example of the brilliant working relation BCCI Secretary Jay Shah has with the English and Bangladesh cricket board.

"The English players will be available for the resumption of the IPL in the UAE. The BCCI has the green signal. This shows the brilliant working relationship that the secretary has with not just the ECB, but also the BCB," the source said.

 

[sweep_shot]

IPL has become way too powerful. Many cricketers seem ready to ditch national teams over these pajama leagues.

 

[Rajdeep]

No, the coronavirus hasn't got anything to do with it, not when the Australians are in Bangladesh right now. At least, try and be plausible.

The BCCI successfully lobbied both boards as reported here:

https://www.aninews.in/news/sports/cricket/ipl-2021-bcci-confirms-england-players-availability-for-league-in-uae20210803104859/

Okay I stand corrected then. Someone was saying its due to covid but thanks for clarifying.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Right so Ashley Giles has proven to be a liar?

The decision of players playing or not playing in the IPL is way above Giles paygrade.

 

[Rana]

The decision of players playing or not playing in the IPL is way above Giles paygrade.

I know you would like to think that.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

'IPL is bigger than World Cup' - De Kock

 

[cricketjoshila]

I know you would like to think that.

Its the fact. BCCI talks to people who pay and hire Giles.

No Matter how much you cry.

 

[globalcitizen]

The England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB) and the Bangladesh Cricket Board came to the decision "mutually", according to the ECB.

Both England and Bangladesh were facing packed calendars and the necessity for teams to stay in restrictive bubbles or contained environments due to Covid has only increased the pressure on international tours.

England is even talking about cancelling Ashes due to biobubbles
Hard luck Bangladesh. Stay strong. Covid has changed lives of many .

https://www.skysports.com/cricket/n...from-september-and-october-2021-to-march-2023

 

[Rana]

Its the fact. BCCI talks to people who pay and hire Giles.

No Matter how much you cry.

I’m not the one crying. I don’t understand what your point is here? Are England playing in Bangladesh whilst players leaving for IPL at the same time?

 

[DeadlyVenom]

IPL is too lucrative for players to turn down. We are banging our heads against a brick wall by arguing otherwise. Its not going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[princeuk]

If any board in the world is willing to stand upto BCCI it is the ECB, I cant wait for the day that happens.

 

[U$ofA]

If any board in the world is willing to stand upto BCCI it is the ECB, I cant wait for the day that happens.

You are going to be waiting for a very long time. ECB and CA are what can be termed co-conspirators. They are part of the Big3. Which puts them as supporters of BCCI and not standup against.

 

[Last Monetarist]

'IPL is bigger than World Cup' - De Kock

He's not wrong, in terms of significance and importance to cricket players, the IPL is bigger than the World T20. Players and most boards would sooner forego the World T20 than cancel the IPL, as we saw last year. International white ball cricket is on a slippery slope, even the 50-over World Cup is not perceived to be as prestigious as it was a decade ago.

 

[PakLFC]

IPL is the cash cow in Cricket for the foreseeable future. For sure English players will quit international Cricket if they are barred from participating in the IPL. The ECB has to find a way that suits all parties involved.

 

[U$ofA]

IPL is the cash cow in Cricket for the foreseeable future. For sure English players will quit international Cricket if they are barred from participating in the IPL. The ECB has to find a way that suits all parties involved.

You are right. No way they are leaving money on the table. They will choose to play IPL. Not playing will have a negative effect on the chances for a new contract as well. And I suspect they are at end of their current ones.

Looking at the contracts of some them, it would be stupid not to play. We all live in the real world.

Stokes - $5.85 million
Archer - $3 million
Butler - $1.8 million
Curran - $2.3 million

 

[Gilly]

If any board in the world is willing to stand upto BCCI it is the ECB, I cant wait for the day that happens.

Why is any board going to "stand up" to the BCCI, what would be the purpose of that?.

 

[AMSS]

You are right. No way they are leaving money on the table. They will choose to play IPL. Not playing will have a negative effect on the chances for a new contract as well. And I suspect they are at end of their current ones.

Looking at the contracts of some them, it would be stupid not to play. We all live in the real world.

Stokes - $5.85 million
Archer - $3 million
Butler - $1.8 million
Curran - $2.3 million

These numbers look way inflated unless I am missing something

 

[U$ofA]

These numbers look way inflated unless I am missing something

I believe IPL contracts are for 3 years. Archer for example gets $1 million per season. The auction prices and following contract numbers published are per year and not the whole contract.

Generally contracts are for 3 years as the mega auction takes place every 3 years. At least that is my understanding.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Why is any board going to "stand up" to the BCCI, what would be the purpose of that?.

Because pakistanis and pcb want that.

 

[AMSS]

I believe IPL contracts are for 3 years. Archer for example gets $1 million per season. The auction prices and following contract numbers published are per year and not the whole contract.

Generally contracts are for 3 years as the mega auction takes place every 3 years. At least that is my understanding.

Cool. I was thinking in terms of annual figures.

 

[someone21]

Nothing outrageous or shocking about it. IPL is the La Liga + EPL combined!!!

Many footballers quit international careers for their club. It is same thing if the national cricket teams refuse to co-operate for IPL window.

 

[Hitman]

Because pakistanis and pcb want that.

The bigger question is why would any board think of standing up to the BCCI? They have nothing to gain but everything to lose by doing that.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

International cricket is on the way out, whether anyone likes it or not. It's a slow process but it's happening.

The fact that Aus didn't send their main players to WI or Bangladesh and the Bangladesh series rights didn't even get picked up in Australia (The100 is showing btw) sums up how it's going to be from here on.

Post pandemic has probably accelerated this process since broadcasters have made it quite clear to boards. T20 is where the money is at, The100 will be tried and tested. But international without marquee teams is a no go.

In future we might probably see a 6-8 month T20 league window and marquee series lined up in summer. But even then I don't forsee a lot of tests for teams other than Eng, Ind, Aus, Pak, SA & NZ.

 

[PakLFC]

You are right. No way they are leaving money on the table. They will choose to play IPL. Not playing will have a negative effect on the chances for a new contract as well. And I suspect they are at end of their current ones.

Looking at the contracts of some them, it would be stupid not to play. We all live in the real world.

Stokes - $5.85 million
Archer - $3 million
Butler - $1.8 million
Curran - $2.3 million

Common sense that money talks the loudest. Any person would go where the money is unless or until a better alternative to the IPL is there.

 

[gazza619]

International cricket is on the way out, whether anyone likes it or not. It's a slow process but it's happening.

The fact that Aus didn't send their main players to WI or Bangladesh and the Bangladesh series rights didn't even get picked up in Australia (The100 is showing btw) sums up how it's going to be from here on.

Post pandemic has probably accelerated this process since broadcasters have made it quite clear to boards. T20 is where the money is at, The100 will be tried and tested. But international without marquee teams is a no go.

In future we might probably see a 6-8 month T20 league window and marquee series lined up in summer. But even then I don't forsee a lot of tests for teams other than Eng, Ind, Aus, Pak, SA & NZ.

Who do you think cares if Chennai beats Mumbai? Sanjay in India or Tom/Dick/Harry in UK? The IPL is big for players but not to world

 

[princeuk]

Why is any board going to "stand up" to the BCCI, what would be the purpose of that?.

Ummm, because tehy are the bully boys of cricket, ok no they are really lovely people.

 

[Gilly]

Ummm, because tehy are the bully boys of cricket, ok no they are really lovely people.

What exactly do you want, do you want BCCI to give all their money to the PCB, do you want the big three to be broke just like other boards. What the issue here?.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Who do you think cares if Chennai beats Mumbai? Sanjay in India or Tom/Dick/Harry in UK? The IPL is big for players but not to world

Yet everyone queues in line to buy its broadcast rights

Just FYI Supersports offered more money for IPL rights than the rights of SA T20 league.

Middle Eastern broadcasters were bidding for IPL rights.

SKY uk and BT PLC were bidding.

just because pakistanis dont get to see it because of their government ban, doesn't mean rest of the world isnt interested.

 

[cricketjoshila]

The bigger question is why would any board think of standing up to the BCCI? They have nothing to gain but everything to lose by doing that.

Because according to our pakistani friends, BCCI are bad people and they need to be punished.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

Who do you think cares if Chennai beats Mumbai? Sanjay in India or Tom/Dick/Harry in UK? The IPL is big for players but not to world

The answer to that is why a Raza Khan in Lahore wears Man Utd Jersey and drinks beer while mouthing off Liverpool supporter Salman Rizwi.

 

[princeuk]

What exactly do you want, do you want BCCI to give all their money to the PCB, do you want the big three to be broke just like other boards. What the issue here?.

The issue here is that BCCI should not intervene in other people's leagues such as the KPL and shouldnt be threatening other players to not take part, its the players choice.

Also not to produce rubbish wickets like test matches 2 and 3 between India and England recently, they knew they had a fight on their hands from England then produced really substandard pitches which was more suited to Rugby than cricket, they knew they would get away with it as its the BCCI.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

IPL pays more in 1 year than all domestic leagues would pay in a lifetime, of course players would want to quit. Cricket players are contracted professionals, they are only in it for money. The only people who might feel patriotic during a cricket match are the spectators.

I don't think international cricket will be going away anytime soon, but they won't exist for more and more teams while IPL is on. I don't like it since I dislike domestic T20s, but this is 2021 and the world has moved on.

 

[Rana]

Again @Mammon was right. England players will participate in IPL 2021 in UAE .England IPL stars are likely to come along with the Indian team from Manchester to Dubai for IPL 2021 in the same charter flight for the bubble to bubble transfer.

This is what you are talking about )

 

[Rana]

The decision of players playing or not playing in the IPL is way above Giles paygrade.

I guess this recent decision was within Gile’s paygrade?

 

[Rana]

If any board in the world is willing to stand upto BCCI it is the ECB, I cant wait for the day that happens.

You may be getting your wish pal

 

[Pakhs]

The answer to that is why a Raza Khan in Lahore wears Man Utd Jersey and drinks beer while mouthing off Liverpool supporter Salman Rizwi.

ofcourse IPL is bigger for the players than cricket fans that bit is obvious since there is plenty of cricket to watch these days fort he fans anyway.

Regarding the world? Cricket is not a global sport but a sport for a few countries so obviously people only in those countries care that too not all of them when it comes to who wins. I personally can not remember who won the IPL last year or what players played were involved in the final.

 

[princeuk]

You may be getting your wish pal

About time

 

[MenInG]

IPL allowance set dangerous precedent

That early summer series saw one of the most worrying decisions of all because it set a dangerous precedent that further gnawed away at the integrity of Test cricket.

Yes, the two Tests against New Zealand were arranged late as cricket tried to claw back revenue lost through Covid, but there was no way Giles and Silverwood should have allowed top players to miss them to play in the Indian Premier League.

It is just weak to say they cannot be stopped because of the sums involved. England's players are paid extremely well through central contracts and should never be missing Test cricket, let alone in an Ashes year.

As it was Ben Stokes suffered the broken finger in his first game for Rajasthan Royals that was to have serious repercussions for both him and England while a weakened Test side were soundly beaten at Edgbaston to lose a rare home series.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/c...-disaster-Australia-means-heads-roll-ECB.html

 

[Rana]

Who are England’s IPL/ Test players?

Butler
Stokes
Bairstow
Archer

All have been useless recently for England. Get rid of them all!

 

[Saj]

White ball rules in English cricket.

Whether it's players or the Board.

And the results of this are there to see.

 

[BreadPakoda]

It’s funny when England loses the experts blame IPL, 100s, Vitality, etc. When Australia lost to India, they blamed Big Bash and when India loses they blame IPL

Yet, these are teams losing to each other and there is no single team that does not have its players take part in some form of T20 league

Blaming T20 looks like an easy coping mechanism