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England v India | Match 38, World Cup | Edgbaston | 30th June, 2019 | Match Thread

BDfanforever said:
Yeah they have Woakes and Rashid who can bat as good as Moeen. Woakes is a proper all rounder. Without Plunkett England would have lost today's game as well.
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Moeen at his best can score a 70 ball ton against any side. Woakes and Rashid lack that capability.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I dont see why we are blaming India for anything.

We knew that even if we win 04 matches, all results have to go our way.

And we KNEW that we have to hand out at least ONE thrashing to improve NRR.

Well, we are on course for 04 matches, but we have barely squeaked through in 49 overs in both games. If it comes down to NRR and NZ, it is OUR FAULT.
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I agree. There is no excuse for that defeat against the West Indies. However, we'll still get through, InshaAllah.
 
Mamoon said:
We were favorites in 87, played professional cricket but unfortunately stumbled in the semifinal. That World Cup should have been the defining moment of Pakistan cricket history, and it could have ushered an era of professionalism.

Unfortunately, we won in 92 and started believing in miracles, magic, unpredictability and cornered tigers nonsense that have severely hampered the growth of Pakistan cricket.

In 83, India produced a bigger cornered tigers moment than Pakistan, but they didn’t allow it to define their cricket, because they knew how success is achieved and what it takes to be a consistently great side.
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Sometimes I can just read your comments, trying every too much to nullify that victory.
 
This is sad. I'm not accusing them in the vast majority of the match, England bowled well and India did have quite a few moments where they tried, look at Pandya's innings, Rohit after he played himself in, I'm sure Kohli was looking to accelerate too.

But this Dhoni, Jadhav partnership, they didn't even try, set up shot. Disappointing. They decided the target was too much, so just knock about for singles not worth bothering.
 
Guys relax, if we lose out on semifinal spot, it will only be due to our show against WI. No one to blame. Dhoni could never have chased this.
 
Plunket is the man who made the difference. He has the knack of picking wickets at crucial times and without it match would have been very very close.
 
I dont have an explanation for these singles - Ganguly

Shame on these Indian batsmen.
 
Only if our match wasn’t washed out with Sri Lanka. England lucky to not have a single match washed out.
 
ads101 said:
This is sad. I'm not accusing them in the vast majority of the match, England bowled well and India did have quite a few moments where they tried, look at Pandya's innings, Rohit after he played himself in, I'm sure Kohli was looking to accelerate too.

But this Dhoni, Jadhav partnership, they didn't even try, set up shot. Disappointing. They decided the target was too much, so just knock about for singles not worth bothering.
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Because these two are not capable of. This Jadhav should be injured.
 
They got to 300 that was the intention from get go..... save their NRR but ensure defeat. Inshallah it will come back to hurt them.
 
This loss will come to haunt back India.

Not complaining about match-fixing etc.

But this has killed their momentum.
 
ind_win said:
Being an Indian , really do not understand the approach. Having the wickets and being notnout is imp than winning? Really man . this is not done.
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Let me lay it out for you in a layman term.

England is also out to win the match and they are bowling to a strategy. They are no minnows and are equally intent on winning. You just don't close your eyes and hit teh ball, hoping you would connect
 
Disgusting by team India.

Indian fans should be fuming.

Honest to God I feel sorry for Indian fans who paid big money this farce !!!
 
This super lack of intention from India is baffling, just like the approach of Afghans against Pakistan yesterday.
 
India will face Poms again in SF - that day we’ll see how they approach a target.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
lol once again you are blaming Dhoni. Watch the match first. Rahul failed again. Pant looked like a proper tullaybaaz. :inti
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Dude. When Pandya was on game was on. Everyone believed. Just listen to the commentators lol Nobody can blame Rahul. He didn't waste balls. Indian top and pandya got the game into a winning positoin.
 
DRsohail said:
Sometimes I can just read your comments, trying every too much to nullify that victory.
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We need to nullify it to progress. What happened in 92 is not a blueprint for success. We need to let it go.
 
Oh yes uncle Dhoni now hits a six when 44 are required in last over
 
Hope MSD and Kedar have toe niggle and get the duck out of this team .Meanwhile MSD is trying hard to keep the dimwit fans happy by hitting a rare 6. THe JIO brigade.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
Dude. When Pandya was on game was on. Everyone believed. Just listen to the commentators lol Nobody can blame Rahul. He didn't waste balls. Indian top and pandya got the game into a winning positoin.
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Pandya was on game was on? Seriously? How many games has he actually finished in his entire career to suggest that? He is good for these 30-40 runs nothing else. He isn't going to play innings like Shakib or Stokes did for their team.
 
I also wonder.

If the tables were reversed and India had to lose to help Pakistan qualify, would Pakistanis be moaning?
 
Now uncle Jadhav hits a four after defeat has been ensured
 
CricketIsAwesome said:
Let me lay it out for you in a layman term.

England is also out to win the match and they are bowling to a strategy. They are no minnows and are equally intent on winning. You just don't close your eyes and hit teh ball, hoping you would connect
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Even I know eng is there to win. I am loudly asking myself and expressing here, why not throw your bats and give it a serious attempt. Anyway, as I write, India lose.

And I have been following this game more closely than a layman.
 
member250 said:
ENG still have to beat NZ.
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They will - don’t be so naive. PAK blew their chances in first game & our midget blew it against Kiwis. Big 3 were always going to make it (and they deserve as well for their respective teams). Kiwis got lucky here and they’ll be crashed in SF.
 
90MPH said:
Disgusting by team India.

Indian fans should be fuming.

Honest to God I feel sorry for Indian fans who paid big money this farce !!!
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Why should they. The Indian team has been outplayed by England. Looks like the Pakistan fans are fuming with India's loss
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Pandya was on game was on? Seriously? How many games has he actually finished in his entire career to suggest that? He is good for these 30-40 runs nothing else. He isn't going to play innings like Shakib or Stokes did for their team.
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What finish. He was the only one who was taking chance while grandpa was plodding along. He had too much on his plate. His role is to provide momentum to the innings. HE provided adequately.
 
Lost by 31 runs with 5 wickets in hand :))

Every Indian batsmen played for personal records. Only Pandya went for the win because he wants to be superstar.

Pathetic mentality. No chance such a team will win the cup.
 
This is not do or die situation for us so it's OK
Got over 300 not bad not bad at all
After all we must look out for hosts as well
 
if I were a paying fan and I saw my team playing for net run rate I would be fuming. Your still playing for your country for flip sake you should go all out and try to win every game, proper pathetic performance , fair play to England for playing well but India clearly had no urgency to win, hope they get smashed in the semis, and this is not about being bitter that it ruins paks chances. If I were in the stadium and pak weren’t trying their best to win I’d be vexed.
 
Sometimes . . Just sometimes . . I think you should probably give it to the others to. . Both commentators commenting are saying the same thing . . They are not all dumb . . Neither is everyone else other than you . . It's a strange chase . . We don't know what the intent is . . Whether you want to accept it or not, it's a different story . . You sounding patronizing wouldnt change the fact this is was a strange chase . .
 
That run chase reminded me of how when Bangladesh in the 2000s used to concede huge totals, they would play for respectability and look to bat out 50 overs instead of giving the chase a go.
 
I don't mind losing but show some intent atleast. I think despite all the money and resources, BCCI is one of the most corrupt incompetent gutless truckduckers in the cricketing world.

These hero workshipping Thala brigades- Wake up & smell the coffee.
 
Sometimes . . Just sometimes . . I think you should probably give it to the others to. . Both commentators commenting are saying the same thing . . They are not all dumb . . Neither is everyone else other than you . . It's a strange chase . . We don't know what the intent was . . And by all means, it may have been fine . . Whether you want to accept that this was a weird chase or not, it's upto you . . But You sounding patronizing wouldnt change the fact this is was a strange chase . .
 
AdamM97 said:
Of course one should never rely on other teams but if there’s a chance to qualify with the help of others, why complain? Isn’t luck a factor in sports?
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As if other teams wouldn’t hope for someone to win or lose if they saw a chance to qualify. Even Bangladesh were hoping for an england loss.
 
iRfaN_LA said:
Guys relax, if we lose out on semifinal spot, it will only be due to our show against WI. No one to blame. Dhoni could never have chased this.
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Agree.If Pakistan had been good enough it would have won enough games to qualify for semis.We shouldn't rely on other teams performances or rained off matches.We lost WI match due to lack of planning.Our management did not factor in short pitch bowling.The team started practising against short pitched bowling in the nets after the loss to WI.Our players don't read the match situation well.They failed to stick around for first 10-12 overs when playing WI.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
What finish. He was the only one who was taking chance while grandpa was plodding along. He had too much on his plate. His role is to provide momentum to the innings. HE provided adequately.
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Grandpa actually played faster than a 21 year old lala jee lol. Pant was 15(15) at one time
 
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