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England v India | Match 38, World Cup | Edgbaston | 30th June, 2019 | Match Thread

Ahmed216 said:
This is a WC game bro. I do think this is a good pitch but 350 even with Dhawan would be difficult to chase
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True, that why I said max. with most things going in favor of IND - still it'll take a blasting Power Play, a BIG partnership among top 3 and one BIG hundred by someone. Setting up total is easier - you score 3-4 blasting 60-70, you can post 350 ish target, chasing needs partnership and one master innings. IND team had 3 such batsmen who can score 150 while chasing - now two............
 
Listening to Manjrekar on commentary makes my ears bleed. I'd prefer listening to Tendulkar waste a lot of words to say nothing of note.
 
MMHS said:
Calculation went above your head - pull your brain a little up from knees.
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if they win today, then almost certainly NZ
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They? You are talking about India right?

Only happening if Pakiatan are losing to Bangladesh. Bangladesh might be better than Pakistan but not certain to win.
 
Since this DRS has arrived. Quality of umpiring has slumped even more. Yesterday there were three outs at least missed by umpires in Pak innings. And today one in English innings. I miss the days of Simon taufel
 
Soft Poms. If only this was a high pressure game for England.
 
Man India legit treating this like a charity match look at that atrocious Kit it looks like something indian women’s volleyball team would wear
 
Markhor said:
Fair play from Bairstow. He had a pop at the media this week but he backed with words with runs with the bat.
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Not really...he moaned about the fact they didnt have flat pitches which suited him...

He hasn't proved anyone wrong by scoring a century on a tailor made pitch for him...
 
All that Kulcha hype.. getting eaten up easily here. Navala by navala.

Bowlers getting dispatched easily
 
Bhuvi should’ve played as the third seamer if he was fit. England did the right thing by dropping a spinner.
 
Pretty disgusted by this Indian performance. Can't wait until England play India in the finals or semis and we see a completely different bowling performance.
 
Looks like the orange and blue jersey is playing a role in India getting smacked. England loving the view of bright orange colour :afridi
 
We all thought Pandya would be taken apart. He has decent figures. The Indian spinners have been taken apart.
 
shaykh said:
Not really...he moaned about the fact they didnt have flat pitches which suited him...

He hasn't proved anyone wrong by scoring a century on a tailor made pitch for him...
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Would've looked worse if he flopped on the flat pitch he wanted.
 
Mueez said:
Would they have performed the same on a spinning track?

Or a green tinged pitch?
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I believe so. The notion that they are just FTBs is a simplistic argument. They are #1 for nothing and that quality would have shined through at some point. They just needed a challenging situation to spark them. I believe they got too comfortable against Pakistan and Sri Lanka.
 
Mamoon said:
Soft Poms. If only this was a high pressure game for England.
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This was just about the toss. It was obvious
Whoever won toss would be 80% fave to win this game.
Best pitch of tournament flat highway. This is just luck of draw. I actually put quite bit of money on England once they won toss. But would have been India if they won toss....
 
Sunzi said:
All that Kulcha hype.. getting eaten up easily here. Navala by navala.

Bowlers getting dispatched easily
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Dude good spinners have gone fror runs. Even ranji trophy team in afirst class scored 111 runs in 16 overs of Warne
 
B_Positive said:
No swing, no spin, nothing in for bowling. It's gonna be a good match when India bats.
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But first india need to restrict england. As even if its a great batting deck. If the total is too big for eg more than 350 then will be hard for india. As chasing in WC game not easy
 
Mamoon said:
I believe so. The notion that they are just FTBs is a simplistic argument. They are #1 for nothing and that quality would have shined through at some point. They just needed a challenging situation to spark them. I believe they got too comfortable against Pakistan and Sri Lanka.
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They are not #1 anymore. Today India is #1
 
england will win with a big margin today. writting on the wall.
if india brings back shami and took couple of quick wickets then maybe.
 
shah_1 said:
They? You are talking about India right?

Only happening if Pakiatan are losing to Bangladesh. Bangladesh might be better than Pakistan but not certain to win.
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I thought you were trolling, but I can see you are genuinely dumb. This is the equation - read it carefully

I predicted, few days back -

1 AUS 16 points (1 loss)
2 IND 15 points (1 loss, 1 wash out)
3 ENG 12 points
4 NZ 11 points, despite losing last 2 (now 1) and whatever BD, PAK does in remaining 3 games, because their NRR is too good

If Poms win today, they'll be on 10 and 1 game against Kiwis - unless they lose that, even a wash out takes them to 11 and Kiwis to 12 - both has much, much better NRR (To cover that PAK'll need to win inside 12 overs or by 350+ margin, which I don't think they are that ******** to do).

Only slim chance that PAK has (if Poms win today) is beating BD, and then expect Kiwis to beat Poms - first one is in their hand though - first let them do that.
 
India never chasing 350+.

300 maybe but not when it gets to 7 runs an over in a pressure game, that too when English bowlers will get some assistance in the first 10 overs.
 
The pressure is not on India so it doesn't matter whether they are chasing 300 or 350. They will back their natural game. Which could be decisive in the end.

Will be fun supporting India as a batting unit today. Hope they don't give me a 'Pakistanesque' experience.
 
Markhor said:
Would've looked worse if he flopped on the flat pitch he wanted.
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But detractors have slammed England batters abilities to adapt to pitches and situations...Bairstow hasn't proven anything today...the likes of Stokes are still much better overalll...
 
I like how Kohli backs Kuldeep. He can afford have bad days this is such a road where ball turns ever so slowly. You can swing through the line.
 
Mamoon said:
They deserve it for working so hard and reaching number 1 ranking.
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Why only england deserve in this WC? You mean other 9 teams didn't work so hard and they don't deserve? Fact is except root no other player can bat on spinning or green track.
 
Mamoon said:
I believe so. The notion that they are just FTBs is a simplistic argument. They are #1 for nothing and that quality would have shined through at some point. They just needed a challenging situation to spark them. I believe they got too comfortable against Pakistan and Sri Lanka.
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Roy and Bairstow got lucky, but they have taken their chances with both hands.

Kudos for that.
 
England team is better than Pakistan.They don't have Hafeez and Malik in their team .We had four years to groom new players but useles PCB did nothing.We don't have quality spinners.Amir and Wahab were brought in at the last minute.Hasnain and Shaheen are one for the future but it was too early to select them for WC.They need at a couple of season of first class cricket
 
Faisalabadimunda said:
But first india need to restrict england. As even if its a great batting deck. If the total is too big for eg more than 350 then will be hard for india. As chasing in WC game not easy
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Even if they score above 350 on this pitch. It will surely be a competitive match. Don't know if they will win but it will be exciting for sure. KL Rahul, Rohit and Kohli if got going then they will win as well
 
jnaveen1980 said:
No chance. NZ just has to lose gracefully. Pakistan is not going to "thump" BD. With a huffing and puffing iwn over Afghanistan it is going to be a tough ask.
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If eng lose to nz and pak beat bd, pak will go through.
 
Root is suppose to be their best player of spin but he plays kuldeep in the back foot which is a major no no
 
Wish Indian batsmen turn up and thrash these guys today. I don't mind losing. But would love to turn up big today. Kohli just has to be in the "chasing mood". He hunted down 336 in 38 overs. So if he is in the zone nothing is impossible.
 
Eng go crying for flat pitches ind go crying for dustbowls.

When theyr in the final one half of the pitch can be flat & other end spinning one..
 
90MPH said:
India never chasing 350+.

300 maybe but not when it gets to 7 runs an over in a pressure game, that too when English bowlers will get some assistance in the first 10 overs.
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It's not a pressure game for India. They are already through to semis.
 
Visaal-E-Yaar said:
Why only england deserve in this WC? You mean other 9 teams didn't work so hard and they don't deserve? Fact is except root no other player can bat on spinning or green track.
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No one worked harder than England. They completely revamped their ODI team in 2015 and prepared very hard for this moment. They also proved people wrong by winning a series in Australia and New Zealand, when people thought that they can only win.
 
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