Hasan123
Test Star
- Joined
- Mar 25, 2016
- Runs
- 38,432
Exactly make him open
Asad at 3 and Babar at 6. Is there any news if players from the A tour will be drafted in
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Exactly make him open
Asad at 3 and Babar at 6. Is there any news if players from the A tour will be drafted in
The problem is that you expose Azhar Ali to opening against the new ball when he is averaging 9.75.Probably wont happen so Id just play Rizwan at 6 since Shan is definitely not getting the next game
The problem is that you expose Azhar Ali to opening against the new ball when he is averaging 9.75.
If you want to leave players in positions in which they are relatively comfortable, drop Shan Masood and Azhar Ali and replace them with Jaahid Ali and Babar Azam at 1 and 3.
I understand that Shan Masood's dad is on the PCB governing board and that the selectors are keen to please him. (I'm not accusing him of demanding his son's inclusion, not for a moment).
But how does exposing the poor fellow to ridicule as his technique and mind unravel ever further help either the player or his father? I would want my son spared from such humiliation.
So the unwritten imperatives for selecting Shan Masood probably don't apply currently.
And I am not accusing the player or his father of the slightest impropriety.
Probably wont happen so Id just play Rizwan at 6 since Shan is definitely not getting the next game
If the wicket is typical Edgbaston wicket than i will bring in Jaahid Ali for Shan.
If the wicket is like Lords or Old Trafford than I will bring in Sharjeel Khan and would give him license to play his natural game without being over agressive or over hyper. Because He can than disrupt line and length of Anderson & Woakes like Sarfraz did succeed in disturbing line, length & plot of Chris Woakes for 2-3 overs. Otherwise they are so accurate, miserly that they land ball after after in same spots and ask too many questions with that Swing and kick.
But on a Typical Edgbaston wicket where Broad & Anderson have their best bowling Averages & Strike Rates Jaahid Ali is the Man to go too ahead of Sami Aslam who is in squad.
Rahat needs to be shown the door bringing in Control of Imran Khan. If Wahab recovers fuly from Injury than too i will have a 50 % inclination only to select him on Edgbaston surface and We must bring Hasan Ali whose natural length is Good length or fuller length and He swings it away from right handers.
Pakistan can also drop Azhar Ali and bring in Amad Butt with Asad going at number 3, younis 4, Misbah 5, Sarfraz 6, Amad 7, Yasir 8, Amir 9, Hasan 10, Imran 11.
We play Test Series in England after 6 years so we should not shy away from wholesale changes to the squad. I hope Mickey Arthur dominates.
1. Jaahid/Sharjeel
2. Hafeez
3. Asad
4. Younis
5. Misbah
6. Sarfraz
7. Amad
8. Yasir
9. Amir
10. Hasan/Wahab
11. Imran
Or
1. Jaahid/Sharjeel
2. Hafeez
3. Azhar
4. Younis
5. Misbah
6. Asad
7. Sarfraz
8. Yasir
9. Amir
10. Hasan/Wahab
11. Imran.
Note : I hope I am proved wrong but Iftikhar Ahmed as an Allrounder which he isn't won't work. Neither this is UAE. Especially with the Ball and we need a fifth bowling Option which can take 1-3 wickets and provide control aswell.
Pakistan A games were more competitive than the games Pakiatan played against 2nd and 3rd string county sides against rookie fc players.hello.. nice recommendations... but few points..
we can make or break series with this test.. we cannot call on rookies.. experience has slightly more chance than just calling some1 from A team performances where batsmen or bowlers are less competitive(refer azhars performance in practice matches)
Plus, asad is so pleasing to eye that we think he can play at any position but main issue is he has his role in his mind we cannot change it.. he is not mentally strong cricketer.. i dont think he trust himself that much to change his position in mid of such a difficult series. plus he haven't played many big innings ( I understand his number doesn't allow) but if we observe his innings he lacks the big inning tempo. we can risk changing his number in westindies series.. not before..
thanks
In his first 5 Fc seasons Damien Martyn had 6 Fc hundreds and he averaged 64.30.Babar for Shan in the middle order with Azhar opening. Hasan Ali or Sohail Khan for Wahab/Rahat
Hafeez and Massod are clueless but our supposed legendary #3 batsman in YK is flawless, right?
How can you even think of dropping Shan? He is the most fluent in English language, no chance of him getting dropped.Probably wont happen so Id just play Rizwan at 6 since Shan is definitely not getting the next game
Azhar should keep his place. He has scored runs in England against Broad and Anderson
Apart from a score of 92 at the oval batting at number 6 on last tour at the oval, Azhar has been rubbish with the bat most of last tour and on this one so far as well and if he fails again he should be dropped!
England obviously have a plan for him which has been executed well, babar is the obvious replacement with Asad shafiq promoted
Again and Again with the A team players. Why are people being so thick on here
NO player that is not in 16 member squad will play any Tests unless there is an injury and they are drafted in.
This whole thread has become a farce and no knowledgable discussion can take place when in every posts people and mentioning players from the A team. The A team squad are their to play the Lions and Sri Lanka they have nothing to do with the test series
well said and absolutely right. good luck in getting that message across though. apparently three innings against an under 12 sri lankan A team is proof of being the reincarnation of bradman.
Apart from a score of 92 at the oval batting at number 6 on last tour at the oval, Azhar has been rubbish with the bat most of last tour and on this one so far as well and if he fails again he should be dropped!
Babar
Sami
Shafiq
Rizwan
Misbu
Abdullah
Sarfraz
Yasir
Hasan
Amir
Rahat
Abdullah?)
I'm flattered, thanks guys. Eagerly awaiting Inzi's call.![]()
One thing that I would avoid is changing things that have worked. We don't need to change things that r not broken. Moving shafiq from 6 is something that is risky.
For eg, At the moment we know that azhar is struggling at number 3, n we r not sure how he will go. Shafiq at 6 we know will go ok.
Now if we promote shafiq to 3 and openers gets out then shafiq could be in I the first 10 minutes. This is totally different challenge with Fresh ball and fresher bowlers. So we would have a further unknown, it we don't know how shafiq will go and we also don't know how the number 6 (rizwan/iftikhari ) will go.
2 much risk.
So we stick with azhar at 3 and hope he goes well. We can't just expect guys to come in and debut and do better than azhar younis etc. Masood maybe a different story coz of mental block but u can afford 1 change. Not 4 like being suggested abovr
If the logic is to drop Shan because he is a walking wicket then yes it makes sense to play 5 bowlers.
Title.
Imo adding an extra batsman/all-rounder isnot worth it because mostly he just chokes at pressure situations so playing an extra seamer will provide other bowlers some rest and more variety to attack.
What do you guys think?
too much hate for shaan in this forum... azhar and younis get away in the limelight.. shaan playing his first english summer, where azhar and younis more experienced than misbah even but their contribution is equal to nothing... they scored centuries against kiddies from counties with their awful technique and looked like a dishwasher playing cricket against the english pace attack... IMO can drop azhar and play z.babar in his place will score more than him...so far wahab and yasir have scored more azhar in this series..
BumpOn a scale of 1 to 10 how bad of an idea would be to open with sarfraz? 10 is the worst. His walking down the pitch might even get us through the new ball. Either way you can't really perform worse than our openers have on foreign tours. In his current position although he's gifting his wicket away but he looks comfortable unlike many players atm but he very soon ends up with the tail which obviously results in a false shot.
Sent from my 0PJA2 using Tapatalk
Bump
Sent from my 0PJA2 using Tapatalk
Shan is in the team because of his connections which puts him under the microscope as far as I am concerned.
When are we playing against Ireland, any idea? [MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION]
18th and 20th Aug.
well...so are the players playing test matches going to be available? hope so they aren't.
Pakistan has to play 5 regular bowlers. It can be either 4 seamers + 1 spinner or 3 seamers + 2 spinners depending on the wicket. But has to be 5 bowlers.
Shehzad is the only solution. Selectors can't just keep ignoring him. Give him enough chance and he'll eventually deliver.
Why am I reading recommendations from readers on including 'A' team players? Is that even an option or just wishful thinking? I am genuinely befuddled.
Also puzzled on suggestions to play Asad or Azher up the order. Not that I am against it but has there been a suggestion?
Clearly Shan, Hafeez, Azher are struggling but knowing Misbah, it is just not likely any of the other two will happen.
So discussion for the sake of it then? Or is there some smoke?
There is no smoke, there is no possibility of including A team players for Test series, and they should not be included.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So after the Worcestershire match it seems that Pakistan will go into the 3rd Test with the same team <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EngvPak?src=hash">#EngvPak</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/759435028271071232">July 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
So iftikhars selection was a blunder? Inzi selected because he could bowl as well and he was given only one over in the side match. Why not just allowed Younis khan play the match then?
I dont agree with this. One of Wahab/Rahat, mot probably Wahab will surely warm the bench
How do you he wasn't allowed vs didn't want to: there's ego involved in being asked to prove yourself as a senior player.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">So after the Worcestershire match it seems that Pakistan will go into the 3rd Test with the same team <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cricket?src=hash">#Cricket</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EngvPak?src=hash">#EngvPak</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/759435028271071232">July 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
I dont agree with this. One of Wahab/Rahat, mot probably Wahab will surely warm the bench
This will be good step, at least he won't bat with a timid mindset like Shan.According to an inside source, Sami Aslam is going to be selected in this test. Haven’t been told at the expense of whom but 99% sure he is in.
The Times reporter reckoned that James Anderson will be licking his lips at the prospect of Shan Masood keeping his place in the side. Even by Pakistan batting standards he's a complete dud.