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England v South Africa l 1st Test l Lords l 10/7/08

I think Eng will target Hamish McAmla - looked a bit shaky last night.

He goes...the rest could follow.

Despite his good recent record, I dont think Amla has it at the highest level.
 
DAmn! I though that was bat-pad. So so close!

I thought that was OUT!

Monty looking good 1st over.

246-1
 
South Africa should declare at evening drinks with a lead of 100 and then bowl England for 32 in 15 overs.
 
Ind v Eng in the winter

2 tests / 7ODIS

I think that confirms that test cricket is dying in Ind!
 
Oxy said:
Ind v Eng in the winter

2 tests / 7ODIS

I think that confirms that test cricket is dying in Ind!

That's really really dissapointing
 
It sad to see 7 ODI's and only 2 Tests...

But then again, do u really want to see more Tests on those flat tracks...
 
lollol said:
It sad to see 7 ODI's and only 2 Tests...

But then again, do u really want to see more Tests on those flat tracks...

You'd think that with the masses of $$$ in the game in the sub-continent, we could buy a decent pitch that does something!!!
 
I think money might have to do something with the flat pitches: it its played the full five days, everyone (stadium, tv producers) benefit from it :P
 
Jardine employing a 'legitamate legside theory' for Amla!!!
 
With the England tour, remember that India are already playing 4 Tests against Australia in October, followed by 2 against England, then more Tests vs Pakistan?.

That's a lot of Tests for somewhere where the Test game is supposedly dying.
 
Random Aussie said:
With the England tour, remember that India are already playing 4 Tests against Australia in October, followed by 2 against England, then more Tests vs Pakistan?.

That's a lot of Tests for somewhere where the Test game is supposedly dying.

Might be loads of tests for England...but only 2 for India. And no doubt they are happy with it!
 
England have given up.

All legside / outside leg bowling.

Batsman just padding up to every deliver from Mudhsuden.
 
Pathetic bowling from england.

As if bowling short will get u wkts
 
Michael Holding reminding the viewers how the English crowd were booing and jeering 'a team from a 'warm country' a couple of years ago for bowling leg side against Eng.

Now they cheer for the same tactics when Eng employ them....

He's having a laugh about it!
 
Oxy said:
Might be loads of tests for England...but only 2 for India. And no doubt they are happy with it!

Sorry I meant that is the Indian schedule for Tests

20 Overs for 44 runs. Awesome.
 
About 9000 fans in Lords on the final day.

Not bad.

Botham having a whinge that its empty - but I think its 8999 more people that attended the recent Asia Cup.....
 
Oxy said:
Michael Holding reminding the viewers how the English crowd were booing and jeering 'a team from a 'warm country' a couple of years ago for bowling leg side against Eng.

Now they cheer for the same tactics when Eng employ them....

He's having a laugh about it!

Double standards anyone.....
 
Bland pitch. Wow were the english cocky about "how bad" the s.a bowling was. They're not looking too special bowling on this pitch now either.
 
Anderson gets mckenzie

well played mckenzie! Faced a amazing 447 balls before getting out, exactly what required to draw this game
 
Ali drops a catch at slip off Broad - was gettable.

Thats the draw confirmed methinks
 
Oxy said:
Ali drops a catch at slip off Broad - was gettable.

Thats the draw confirmed methinks

Yep, disappointing miss for England. Does look a draw now, yep.
 
Now its drawn :)

So, the last 6 matches at Lord's have been drawn... what happened to Lords? It has become too flat.
Code:
draw  	England v Sri Lanka  	Lord's  11 May 2006
draw 	England v Pakistan 	Lord's 	13 Jul 2006
draw 	England v West Indies 	Lord's 	17 May 2007
draw 	England v India 	Lord's 	19 Jul 2007
draw 	England v New Zealand 	Lord's 	15 May 2008
draw 	England v South Africa 	Lord's 	10 Jul 2008
 
lollol said:
Now its drawn :)

So, the last 6 matches at Lord's have been drawn... what happened to Lords? It has become too flat.
Code:
draw  	England v Sri Lanka  	Lord's  11 May 2006
draw 	England v Pakistan 	Lord's 	13 Jul 2006
draw 	England v West Indies 	Lord's 	17 May 2007
draw 	England v India 	Lord's 	19 Jul 2007
draw 	England v New Zealand 	Lord's 	15 May 2008
draw 	England v South Africa 	Lord's 	10 Jul 2008

and WE blame NSK for being too flat?
 
Indeed yet another draw at lords and wicket seems to get flatter and flatter every year. S.A have a powerful batting line up and their big guns didnt fire in 1st inns but they did in the 2nd and most worrying for england must be kallis didnt fire in either inns!

Intresting to see if england drop collingwood and bring back flintoff. Plus simon jones must not be to far off a call up. An intresting 2nd test awaits!
 
ucilite said:
and WE blame NSK for being too flat?
Karachi hasnt hasnt had a draw since AUS toured more than ten years ago...

Here is list of countries were most % of matches get drawn since 2000. Not surprised to see India almost on top of this list :))

Code:
[B][COLOR=Red]Span  		Mat  	Won  	Tied  	Draw  	%D [/COLOR] [/B]
in West Indies
2000-2008 	44 	28 	0 	16 	0.36
in India
2000-2008 	38 	24 	0 	14 	0.36
in England
2000-2008 	60 	44 	0 	16 	0.26
in Pakistan
2000-2007 	30 	22 	0 	8 	0.26
in New Zealand
2000-2008 	34 	26 	0 	8 	0.23
in Sri Lanka
2000-2007 	46 	36 	0 	10 	0.21
in Zimbabwe
2000-2005 	22 	18 	0 	4 	0.18
in Australia
2000-2008 	50 	42 	0 	8 	0.16
in South Africa
2000-2008 	47 	40 	0 	7 	0.14
in Bangladesh
2000-2008 	25 	22 	0 	3 	0.12
 
lollol said:
Karachi hasnt hasnt had a draw since AUS toured more than ten years ago...

Here is list of countries were most % of matches get drawn since 2000. Not surprised to see India almost on top of this list :))

Code:
[B][COLOR=Red]Span  		Mat  	Won  	Tied  	Draw  	%D [/COLOR] [/B]
in West Indies
2000-2008 	44 	28 	0 	16 	0.36
in India
2000-2008 	38 	24 	0 	14 	0.36
in England
2000-2008 	60 	44 	0 	16 	0.26
in Pakistan
2000-2007 	30 	22 	0 	8 	0.26
in New Zealand
2000-2008 	34 	26 	0 	8 	0.23
in Sri Lanka
2000-2007 	46 	36 	0 	10 	0.21
in Zimbabwe
2000-2005 	22 	18 	0 	4 	0.18
in Australia
2000-2008 	50 	42 	0 	8 	0.16
in South Africa
2000-2008 	47 	40 	0 	7 	0.14
in Bangladesh
2000-2008 	25 	22 	0 	3 	0.12

good stuff my friend........
 
Well, what a snooze that was.... the wicket was too flat for anyone to win, and England attack has been exposed when it doesn't swing. Fortunately Fred is back to give tem a cutting edge.

Oh, and jolly good rearguard action, Saffers! There's the Voortrekker spirit!
 
Verdict:

It's about time Lord's started preparing pitches with something in them for the bowlers. This match could quite easily have lasted seven or eight days and still ended in a draw. What's more this was the 6th consecutive Lord's Test match to end in a draw, a figure which makes for a very poor advertisement for the Home of Cricket.

England once again didn't bowl badly, and Michael Vaughan's captaincy was dynamic and imaginative, even giving Amla a working over with some fast leg theory! What would the reaction have been had the opposition been Australia, I wonder? Unfortunately, James Anderson is no Harold Larwood, and on this pitch, even the latter would probably have struggled to rough up a batsman, even with a field that at one stage had a Jardinesque seven men (plus the wicket keeper) on the leg side! Unlike Nasser Hussain's use of leg-theory when Ashley Giles famously bowled it for over after over to frustrate Tendulkar, Michael Vaughan's use of it to Amla was an attacking ploy, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it used again in this series against the same batsman. It might just pay dividends on a faster pitch.

Amla to his credit took it all unflinchingly, and deserved his hundred.

South Africa can take great heart from their highly disciplined batting display, and given the short gap until the second Test, there are going to be some very tired English bodies after their three long days of solid toil, meaning that South Africa go into the second match with a slight advantage, something that seemed highly improbable after three days of this match.
 
Big Harvey said:
Verdict:

It's about time Lord's started preparing pitches with something in them for the bowlers. This match could quite easily have lasted seven or eight days and still ended in a draw. What's more this was the 6th consecutive Lord's Test match to end in a draw, a figure which makes for a very poor advertisement for the Home of Cricket.
It is indeed a shame, and i wont watch the next Test at Lords anymore if its flat again. Pathetic stuff really, they made it almost look like a Indian wicket.

The so-called home of cricket, where only 2 Test matches/year are played in may/july, has become a batting paradise.
 
Harvey what happened to the gloom and doom 4-0 to SA theory, England acquitted themselves quite well.

SA batted quite sensibly for the last couple of days, but there was relatively little danger, they peppered Amla with the short stuff but it simply wasn't that kind of wicket, especially for those who struggled to get above low 80's in speed.

South Africa's footballing skills weren't too impressive either in the morning :O
 

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dblock said:
Harvey what happened to the gloom and doom 4-0 to SA theory, England acquitted themselves quite well.

4-0 was never a theory I subscribed to. The only question mark in my mind was over the England batting, and that question mark was related to attitude rather than ability. As I expected, the England batsmen look really up for this series, although I expect South Africa's bowlers to put in better performances from now on than they did on that horrible Lord's pitch.
 
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