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England Vs India | 7th ODI | LORDS | 8/09/07

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England : 1 Paul Collingwood (capt) , 2 Matt Prior (wk), 3 Ian Bell, 4 Kevin Pietersen, 5 Flintoff , 6 Owais Shah, 7 Andrew Flintoff, 8 Luke Wright, 9 Stuart Broad, 10 James Anderson, 11 Monty Panesar.

Flintoff comes in place of Alastair Cook

India: 1 Sourav Ganguly, 2 Sachin Tendulkar, 3 Gautam Gambhir, 4 Yuvraj Singh, 5 Rahul Dravid (capt), 6 Mahendra Singh Dhoni (wk), 7 Robin Uthappa, 8 RP Singh, 9 Piyush Chawla, 10 Ramesh Powar, 11 Zaheer Khan.

RP Singh comes in for Agarkar
 
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India have won the toss and decided to bat first
 
India 17/0 in the 4th over, Ganguly looking unsettled by the bounce.
 
India 26/1 in the 7th over, Ganguly struggling here and Anderson puts him out of his misery, Ganguly out for 15.
 
India have had so much luck
 
India in deep trouble now 53/3 with Dravid just out, Tendulkar and Yuvraj the key to India's chances now.
 
Poor decision by Aleem Dhar. There was daylight between bat and ball. I think it hit dravids back arm on its way to Prior.
 
Lets c how much difference this start makes for England as previously their bowlers were not able to even beat the bat of Sachin and Saurav.
Still a long way to go as Yuvi, Dhoni and Sachin can single handedly make a difference to the outcome.
 
That was a correct decision by Aleem Dar

snicko shows a clear edge.
 
Edge from Tendulkar through a vacant gully. Races down to 3rd man for 4.

59/3
 
Next ball he's outta there. Tendulkar feeling for it outside off has edged one behind to Prior. Tendulkar not happy with it.

59/4
 
wrong decision. He didnt hit it. Bat hit his pad.
 
Aleem Dar sealed the victory for England. It's shocking.
 
Another bad decision against Tendulkar in this test and odi series, Tendulkar deflected his bat off his pad.
 
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chuck said:
Aleem Dar sealed the victory for England. It's shocking.
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1 wrong decision and the game is sealed is it ?

How about the other 10 batsman doing something.
 
It's amazing how many decisions went agains India in this series. Credit to them that they sealed off test series and came so close to winning ODI series.
 
Yuvraj pulls Stuart Broad for a fantastic 6 over square leg. He cracked that one out of the middle and it's into the stands.
 
Saj said:
1 wrong decision and the game is sealed is it ?

How about the other 10 batsman doing something.
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It's two wrong decisions .. Dravid and Tendulkar. And it's not just A batsman .. it's Tendulkar you are talking about. With series being fought so closely, these are key decisions which will have a huge impact. If India wins from here .. it's going to be a huge.
 
chuck said:
It's two wrong decisions .. Dravid and Tendulkar. And it's not just A batsman .. it's Tendulkar you are talking about. With series being fought so closely, these are key decisions which will have a huge impact. If India wins from here .. it's going to be a huge.
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Dravid was out

snicko showed an edge
 
2 wrong decisions,both crucial wickets -commentators are repatedly pointing that out-


Aleem Dar is a cheat.He would have taken money.He ruined the match
 
Anyway no point complaining about umipiring. Happens all the time. I'm signing off. See you all during T20 World Cup!.
 
alexjohn_tcr said:
2 wrong decisions,both crucial wickets -commentators are repatedly pointing that out-


Aleem Dar is a cheat.He would have taken money.He ruined the match
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What utter rubbish. Dravid was out, he edged it. He can shake his head and act the victim role as much as he likes, but he was out and trying to con the umpire.
 
Hash said:
Dravid was out

snicko showed an edge
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They haven't shown the snicko yet on telecast here but Nasir Husain is repeatedly pointing out that it was a wrong decision.
 
alexjohn_tcr said:
2 wrong decisions,both crucial wickets -commentators are repatedly pointing that out-


Aleem Dar is a cheat.He would have taken money.He ruined the match
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Don't know what coverage you are watching

I am watching on supersport, which is getting its feed from sky. They showed hot spot and snicko for both decisions. Only the Sachin one was wrong. Dravid was a clear edge.
 
Dravid is not out-They say for an inside edge there will be a clear distinct line on snicko
 
alexjohn_tcr said:
Dravid is not out-They say for an inside edge there will be a clear distinct line on snicko
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stop chatting bull, anyway dravid deserves it i remember pak-ind 2004 he didnt walk in 3rd test when there was a clear edge and he went on to make 200odd.
 
alexjohn_tcr said:
Dravid is not out-They say for an inside edge there will be a clear distinct line on snicko
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'They' being who?

Amazing how different the two coverages are!

I'm watching the sky feed which has shown hot spot and snicko for both decisions......Dravid being out and Sachin being not out.

You're watching on? Doordarshan? ESPN? Who are harping on about bad umpiring ruining the game!

I'd rather believe the factual evidence of hot spot and snicko personally!
 
Saj said:
What utter rubbish. Dravid was out, he edged it. He can shake his head and act the victim role as much as he likes, but he was out and trying to con the umpire.
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You got it wrong mate. Dravid will never try to con the umpire.Can you point out one instance when he did that before
 
Dravid edged it. Tendulkar didn't. The first decision was superb, the second was wrong but by no means a shocker. Nine times out of ten, umpires would give that. It looked and sounded right.
 
alexjohn_tcr said:
You got it wrong mate. Dravid will never try to con the umpire.Can you point out one instance when he did that before
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pak-ind 2004 mate
 
alexjohn_tcr said:
You got it wrong mate. Dravid will never try to con the umpire.Can you point out one instance when he did that before
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You miss the point. Dravid was out in this match, case closed. That utter nonsense about Aleem Dar accepting money and being a cheat was out of order
 
Nasser Hussain can shut up because i don't see him willing to do the umpiring job. "ruining the final", there's only been 1 bad decision so far.
 
alexjohn_tcr said:
You got it wrong mate. Dravid will never try to con the umpire.Can you point out one instance when he did that before
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He did it today mate. He stood there in front of thousands of fans and millions watching on tv, and pretended he hadnt touched the ball. Then when he was given out he shook his head as if to say I never touched it.
 
Anyway India 79/4 in the 20th over, Yuvraj and Uthappa needs to get a big partnership from here.
 
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A good opportunity for Yuvraj and Uthappa to lead the fightback
 
let se nasser as a umpire. he's pissing me off so much. keeps on saying that the decision was wrong. lets see himm as an umpire
 
Usman Sahib said:
You miss the point. Dravid was out in this match, case closed. That utter nonsense about Aleem Dar accepting money and being a cheat was out of order
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Aleem Dar accepting money came out of utter frustration.sorry for that.

However I still believe that Dravid was not out and Dravid will NEVER CHEAT

me watching ESPN listening to the Great Michael Holding and Nasser Hussain
 
Sachin has tried to con the umpire before as well

I remember a few times he has shown the umpire his bat when there has been no edge at all (for lbw appeals)
 
alexjohn_tcr said:
Aleem Dar accepting money came out of utter frustration.sorry for that.

However I still believe that Dravid was not out and Dravid will NEVER CHEAT

me watching ESPN listening to the Great Michael Holding and Nasser Hussain
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:))) I still believe that pigs can fly :)))
 
alexjohn_tcr said:
Aleem Dar accepting money came out of utter frustration.sorry for that.

However I still believe that Dravid was not out and Dravid will NEVER CHEAT

me watching ESPN listening to the Great Michael Holding and Nasser Hussain
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When the snicko shows that he edged it, how can you still believe that he was not out?
 
I think Uthappa has knicked that one and it was not given. He looked pretty concerned when the ball went to the keeper.

I may be wrong, i need some replays.
 
Nasser is being so nice to India today, just said that India should complain about Flintoff coming off the feild.
 
Rob H said:
I think Uthappa has knicked that one and it was not given. He looked pretty concerned when the ball went to the keeper.

I may be wrong, i need some replays.
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He did edge it. So now no Indian fan can claim foul luck in this game. It's 1-1 on bad decisions.
 
Headline on Cricbuzz "Aleem Dar rocks Indian top order " lol.....

Funny how those sour grapes are not harping on about the Uthappa decision.
 
I'm still enjoying this ODI series but I'm really fed up with all these injury problems that keep hitting our players. I know quite a lot of teams are having similar problems as well but it's just frustrating for any fan when their team takes one step foward but then falls two steps back due to injury.

Nasser Hussain isn't helping either. I thought he was making progress over the last couple of years but he's just been a complete bell throughout this series. Think before you speak!
 
Uthappa gone now. He tried to smash Dimi over wide mid off but only found Anderson on the edge of the circle. Poor shot given the situation.

106/5 off 24.3
 
Does Naz have some endorsements in India which he is scared of losing if he doesn't tow the Indian line?

I can't believe they are making such a big deal about one wrong decision. If Inzi is given out wrongly all they can say is 'ahh, tough luck, these things happen'.......sachin goes wrongly (not to mention Uthappa being given not out when he was out) and it's as if Aleem Dar has committed the crime of the millenium.
 
Billy said:
Nasser Hussain isn't helping either. I thought he was making progress over the last couple of years but he's just been a complete bell throughout this series. Think before you speak!
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I've always said this. He is such a shocking commentator because he judges everything before even getting all his facts straight and then doesn't change his mind despite there being clear evidence against him. I couldn't believe it when he was voted one of the better commentators on this forum some while back.
 
Dhoni plumb as you like lbw but given not out by Ian Gould. Was not given for hitting outside the line but it hit him flush on off stump. India fortunate again....... Come out all those criticising earlier.....
 
Nasser Hussain went way over the line today - he mentioned Aleem Dar and how he was ruining a final about 56 times and I felt like throwing the remote at the TV because of how annoying he was. Its a pity because it was a clear nick.
 
so now there are two decisions against us and one decision against India!
 
Hash said:
Does Naz have some endorsements in India which he is scared of losing if he doesn't tow the Indian line?

I can't believe they are making such a big deal about one wrong decision. If Inzi is given out wrongly all they can say is 'ahh, tough luck, these things happen'.......sachin goes wrongly (not to mention Uthappa being given not out when he was out) and it's as if Aleem Dar has committed the crime of the millenium.
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Tedu and Dravid should be hauled before the match referee for their dissent.
What they forget is, they have had a few lucky decisions go for them in the past.
Dravid & Attappu were out and Tendu wasn't, still no excuse to moan.

swings and roundabouts
 
Powar gone run out trying to take a quick single off Monty. He stutted when taking off and it caused his downfall.

147/7
 
Chawla gone stumped to Dimi. He went for a big drive but dragged his foot out and Prior did the rest.

148/8
 
Could watch only last 5 overs of Ind. innings in the match, and from look of things seems I didn't miss much. :D Discussions over here suggests Tendu/Dravid decisions were debatable?

... anyways 187 can be defendable if Indian bolwers can show some discipline.
Come on India!
 
purplehaze said:
... anyways 187 can be defendable if Indian bolwers can show some discipline.
Come on India!
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yeah, it's always good to be optimistic, though far from reality :)
 
Just watching the discussion after First innings, Ian Chappell is saying that Dravid's out was wrong decision. I haven't seen the snicko but if Nasser and Ian Chappell are saying this, after presumably seeing snicko then it must be dubious.

It's gloomy for India from here .. having had 187 only.
 
Now Prior repreived by Dar. That was dead plumb.
 
chuck said:
Just watching the discussion after First innings, Ian Chappell is saying that Dravid's out was wrong decision. I haven't seen the snicko but if Nasser and Ian Chappell are saying this, after presumably seeing snicko then it must be dubious.

It's gloomy for India from here .. having had 187 only.
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Nasser later conceded that the Dravid decision was '50-50'......I think most of their comments are based on Dravid's reaction to the wicket. They are just trusting him.

Snicko doesn't lie. There was a clear line when it passed the bat and clear deviation. It could only have been an edge.
 
chuck said:
Just watching the discussion after First innings, Ian Chappell is saying that Dravid's out was wrong decision. I haven't seen the snicko but if Nasser and Ian Chappell are saying this, after presumably seeing snicko then it must be dubious.
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Snicko showed a thin edge as the ball went past Dravid's bat.
 
Dravid was out. I thought Snicko showed that.
 
Hash..presumably they watched the same snicko as you did. If they think it's questionable then it wouldn't have been that clear.

Dar seem to be getting a number of decisions against India. Prior has just been reprieved as well.
 
They said if the technology (sound, snicko) was used for Dravid's decision then it would have been out

Tendu was not out as it was the bat hitting the pad when the ball was close
 
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