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It looks like the next 10 days will be warm and dry. No damp conditions. In fact looking at the LORDS games last few years it will be a flat track and with the sun out will it turn from day 4 on?

Pak batsmen will still have to work really really hard for runs but I really believe we can win this game!

:ma
 
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It looks like the next 10 days will be warm and dry. No damp conditions. In fact looking at the LORDS games last few years it will be a flat track and with the sun out will it turn from day 4 on?

Pak batsmen will still have to work really really hard for runs but I really believe we can win this game!

:ma

Spot on. It will swing loads in the first morning but by the first late afternoon will be ideal batting conditions. If we bat first and are not blown away in the morning this will be time to drop anchor. Lords is flat and dry on day 4 and 5 so good spin conditions but really we need to bowl tight
 
Azhar Ali
Sami Aslam
fakhar Zaman
Harris
Usman
Sarfaraz
faheem
Shadab
Amir
Abbas
Hassan

That is my Team
 
Azhar Ali
Sami Aslam
fakhar Zaman
Harris
Usman
Sarfaraz
faheem
Shadab
Amir
Abbas
Hassan

That is my Team

I love Sami Aslam, but really, why would you pick him over Imam-ul-Haq???????
 
Best case scenario we absolutely smash England in the series and in the very next series they take out ghussa on India and dish out epic phainti :srini
 
Best case scenario we absolutely smash England in the series and in the very next series they take out ghussa on India and dish out epic phainti :srini

Bro that would just confirm our victory was a fluke :sarf2

Clearly that would mean that we faced an England side that was still rebuilding after a disastrous winter. If we faced England at the end of the summer, we would have fared worse than India.

And don't give me the rubbish we faced them in early May. It was uncharacteristically sunny when we played, which basically meant we had UAE like conditions. If we had faced England in May in any other year, we would have lost each match by an innings.

Don't get your hopes up if we do win. It's clearly a fluke :sarf2
 
If I had it my way,
1_Azhar
2_Imam
3_Haris
4_Babar
5_Fakhar
6_Shadab
7_Fahim
8_Sarfraz
9_Amir
10_Hassan
11_Abbas
Thats the best possible combo considering all things, Batting till 10, 3 fast bowlers one fast medium all rounder, one spin all rounder, 2 left arm 2 right arm pacers, plus 3 good part timers, mean 8 possible bowling option, which mean variety and depth, this team have it both, plus great left right combo in batting with 6 righties and 5 lefties, once upon a time we had one or 2 lefties at most that too bowlers, Asad and Azhar both have been bang average thus for in this tour but Azhar recent performances have earned him a longer rope, Asad can still be in the squad but don't deserve to be in the XI, and before most of you jump in and say both Azhar or imam are too defensive but tell me with a straight face who have more chances to survive clouderson and Barbie in early summer under cloudy skies, these two with solid defense or fakhar? And it's coming from big fakhar fan, his attacking prowess should be used in middle order out of Asia, and if our openers can score even 50 without no loss till lunch they would have done their job of saving middle order from new cherry, and this middle order is dynamic enough to score at over 3.5 and all of them potentially can bat at 50 plus career strike rate. So they can make up for slow start. [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=137148]Rayyman[/MENTION] [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] [MENTION=140234]DRsohail[/MENTION] [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] agree guys?
 
Ideal XI:

Fakhar
Imam
Haris
Usman
Babar
Sarfaraz
Shadab
Faheem
Hasan
Amir
Abbas

no need for slow poke Azhar and highly inconsistent once in a blue moon performer in Shafiq. Usman based on the highlights I saw looked far superior to Shafiq too.

I don't care if Azhar has most experience and runs, we really don't need him since the team has been losing anyway. Might as well pack the team with stroke players who will look to score and get 300+ as fast as possible to give us a chance to compete.

But in reality both Azhar & Shafiq will play and Fakhar & Usman will be on the bench. :facepalm:

Hasan replacing Rahat should be a given by now. Latter is just awful and adds nothing to the team.
 
Ideal XI:

Fakhar
Imam
Haris
Usman
Babar
Sarfaraz
Shadab
Faheem
Hasan
Amir
Abbas

no need for slow poke Azhar and highly inconsistent once in a blue moon performer in Shafiq. Usman based on the highlights I saw looked far superior to Shafiq too.

I don't care if Azhar has most experience and runs, we really don't need him since the team has been losing anyway. Might as well pack the team with stroke players who will look to score and get 300+ as fast as possible to give us a chance to compete.

But in reality both Azhar & Shafiq will play and Fakhar & Usman will be on the bench. :facepalm:

Hasan replacing Rahat should be a given by now. Latter is just awful and adds nothing to the team.

Fakhar will come in place of Babar.
 
Fakhar will come in place of Babar.

How do you know this?

Btw, Babar also doesn't deserve to be in playing XI but he is in good books with Mickey no way he is going to be benched.

I really hope at least Fakhar comes in the team in place of Shafiq because I am 1000% sure Azhar will open with Imam.

It only leaves a spot between Shafiq, Fakhar and Usman and I would go with Fakhar.
 
How do you know this?

Btw, Babar also doesn't deserve to be in playing XI but he is in good books with Mickey no way he is going to be benched.

I really hope at least Fakhar comes in the team in place of Shafiq because I am 1000% sure Azhar will open with Imam.

It only leaves a spot between Shafiq, Fakhar and Usman and I would go with Fakhar.

I don't know for sure, but I think they'll drop Babar and play Fakhar. Could go with Usman as well, but I think they'll go with a stroke player in Fakhar instead.

Most likely Azhar will go back to number 3 with Imam and Fakhar opening.

There is no way that Asad will be dropped given that he is one of the 'senior' players in the team.

The only spot left is that of Babar, who hasn't done much in the Test arena to be honest.
 
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I don't know for sure, but I think they'll drop Babar and play Fakhar. Could go with Usman as well, but I think they'll go with a stroke player in Fakhar instead.

Most likely Azhar will go back to number 3 with Imam and Fakhar opening.

There is no way that Asad will be dropped given that he is one of the 'senior' players in the team.

The only spot left is that of Babar, who hasn't done much in the Test arena to be honest.

Between Shafiq and Babar, I would go with Babar 100% of the time ... Former has been a disappointment after 60 odd tests ... Fakhar should come in for Shafiq but I totally get your point of 'seniority' which is a cancer in our cricket.

Shafiq has been in woeful form.
 
How do you know this?

Btw, Babar also doesn't deserve to be in playing XI but he is in good books with Mickey no way he is going to be benched.

I really hope at least Fakhar comes in the team in place of Shafiq because I am 1000% sure Azhar will open with Imam.

It only leaves a spot between Shafiq, Fakhar and Usman and I would go with Fakhar.


He isnt in the team because of being in Mickey's good books, he's in it because he just played a matchwinning knock at Malahide.

If he fails for a continued stretch of games again, he will be dropped. Funny thing is, people are clamouring for Fakhar to be included on the basis of his LOI form, yet harp on about how Babar shouldnt be selected for the same reason.
 
Obviously can't drop Azhar because of his years of professionalism and service to pak test cricket but that guy needs to man up right now.

Ideal XI

Fakhar
Imam
Usman
Haris
Sarfraz
Asad
Babar
Shadab/Faheem
Hasan
Amir
Abbas

I agree with playing an extra batsman instead of all rounder even on flat pitches.
 
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I love Sami Aslam, but really, why would you pick him over Imam-ul-Haq???????

Because Sami Aslam has performed in England. Imam Is good player , but I feel he is under too much pressure , against Experienced bowling will struggle , better give him a go in UAE .
 
If I had it my way,
1_Azhar
2_Imam
3_Haris
4_Babar
5_Fakhar
6_Shadab
7_Fahim
8_Sarfraz
9_Amir
10_Hassan
11_Abbas
Thats the best possible combo considering all things, Batting till 10, 3 fast bowlers one fast medium all rounder, one spin all rounder, 2 left arm 2 right arm pacers, plus 3 good part timers, mean 8 possible bowling option, which mean variety and depth, this team have it both, plus great left right combo in batting with 6 righties and 5 lefties, once upon a time we had one or 2 lefties at most that too bowlers, Asad and Azhar both have been bang average thus for in this tour but Azhar recent performances have earned him a longer rope, Asad can still be in the squad but don't deserve to be in the XI, and before most of you jump in and say both Azhar or imam are too defensive but tell me with a straight face who have more chances to survive clouderson and Barbie in early summer under cloudy skies, these two with solid defense or fakhar? And it's coming from big fakhar fan, his attacking prowess should be used in middle order out of Asia, and if our openers can score even 50 without no loss till lunch they would have done their job of saving middle order from new cherry, and this middle order is dynamic enough to score at over 3.5 and all of them potentially can bat at 50 plus career strike rate. So they can make up for slow start. [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=137148]Rayyman[/MENTION] [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] [MENTION=140234]DRsohail[/MENTION] [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] agree guys?

I'm tired of Asad. Guy is batting at #4 and is senior but hasn't made one score of 140+. I think he will get another chance cuz his 60 tho. Also Faheem should bat ahead of Shadab. Shaddy is not good enough for #6 yet.
 
Hoping for a repeat of Pakistan 16/6 (Vs NZ), albeit in a different format. Even repeat of 49 a/o against SA would work. Come on Barbie. :broad
 
Hoping for a repeat of Pakistan 16/6 (Vs NZ), albeit in a different format. Even repeat of 49 a/o against SA would work. Come on Barbie. :broad

Pakistan were once 99 all out against England in the first innings of the match in 2012. Still won the match :misbah
 
Because Sami Aslam has performed in England. Imam Is good player , but I feel he is under too much pressure , against Experienced bowling will struggle , better give him a go in UAE .

We all thought Sami Aslam would struggle too against experienced bowling but he done well last time. So Imam-ul-Haq deserves a chance. Also SA is really out of form. So Imam has to play.
 
Tricky selection for this test. The only one who could have had a case was Hasan Ali and he didn't exactly grab 5 wickets.

Seems like same team will need to play as the Irish one - despite dodgy form of Rahat.
 
Lord's is usually a flat, dry, slow pitch and our best chance of winning a Test in this series.

Most likely we'll see the same XI that faced Ireland except for Hasan Ali replacing Rahat Ali.
 
Obviously can't drop Azhar because of his years of professionalism and service to pak test cricket but that guy needs to man up right now.

Ideal XI

Fakhar
Imam
Usman
Haris
Sarfraz
Asad
Babar
Shadab/Faheem
Hasan
Amir
Abbas

I agree with playing an extra batsman instead of all rounder even on flat pitches.

On what basis would you choose Usman over Azhar?
 
Babar out fakhar in

so babar has not done much to justify his position in tests, his 50 against ireland doesn't makeup for all his failures, if we need a player to score quickly, why not have fakhar in for babar and play the following
imam
azhar
harris
shafiq
fakhar
sarfaraz
faheem
shadam
amir
hasan
abbas
honestly that looks alot stronger and since fakhar is alot stronger mentally i am sure he will score more runs that babar
 
Yes Babar's 50 against Ireland in a TEST match doesnt mean anything and Fakhar's 70 odd against Leicestershire (which wasnt even an FC match) justify his spot? Have some patience Fakhar's etc time will come.

Usman is with the team for 3 series now first he should make the team instead of Shafiq who is a mediocre player even after 60 test matches.
 
On what basis would you choose Usman over Azhar?

Azhar is not playing with a straight bat. He is at his best when scoring runs down the ground. Once he is set he gets lot of runs on the leg side with flicks and clips. He's playing off drive too early in his innings with a crooked bat getting caught in slips. And dropping dolly catches in slips.
And usman used to be the boy prodigy nows he's the grown man prodigy still waiting for a debut.
Wonder what his stats could have been if he had been selected at the same age younis khan was.
But still have to play azhar because you have to back you veteran horse even when badly out of form.
 
Yup. If I go by the match report Hasan Ali didn’t make much of an impact

Sure.

Unfortunately if one goes by Rahat's 20 Tests, he will never make much of an impact.

If ave of 50 in England doesn't disqualify a player from bowling there one wonders what will?

In his brief Test career Hasan at least has been economical, in very unhelpful conditions.
 
We will win one of the matches. The other match will be a draw or england win.
 
Abbas will be a cannon fodder.He might pick tailenders wickets though.Hasan should play instead of abbas.Hoping for a cracker of a match.
 
I guess the team played against Ireland was perfect, given that Azhar performs.

01 Azhar Ali
02 Imam Ul Haq
03 Haris
04 Asad Shafique
05 Babar Azam
06 Sarafaraz Ahmed
07 Shadab Khan
08 Faheem Ashraf
09 M. Amir
10 Hasan Ali
11 M. Abbass

though we are an spinner short but still a good mix. Haris should bowl too,
 
The optimism here is surprising. So all of you guys are very confident about a Pak win? Or is there an inside joke I’m not aware of?
 
The optimism here is surprising. So all of you guys are very confident about a Pak win? Or is there an inside joke I’m not aware of?

Its called PAKpassion for a reason. JAZBA!
The boys will do well and win the 1st test inshallah!
 
Its called PAKpassion for a reason. JAZBA!
The boys will do well and win the 1st test inshallah!

Some people were very worried after that Ireland test. This sudden improvement in mood just because of a weather forecast surprised a realist like me :). Anyways, good luck!
 
England will win the series 1-0 or 2-0. Can’t wait for this series to start. For me, india’s England tour is already started.
 
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Let's put things into perspective, if we're 30/2 in the morning session, with Azhar in the shed, then who is on the other end? 2 Test Imam? 3 Test Haris? Soft belly Asad?

Then it's Babar 'Bradman average' Azam and Sarfraz with their pads on looking on. Faheem, 'not in the top 10 batsmen in the country' looking at his kit bag.

Anything can happen, but I'd be stunned if a miracle happened.

Innings defeats aren't out of question.

Dream scenario: Fakhar and Imam score tons, and Amir rips through England.
 
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Let's put things into perspective, if we're 30/2 in the morning session, with Azhar &/or Imam in the shed, then it's a guy with 3 test experience [Haris], and Babar 'Bradman average' Azam and Sarfraz with their pads on. And Faheem, 'not in the top 10 batsmen in the country' looking at his kit bag.

Anything can happen, but I'd be stunned if a miracle happened because innings defeats aren't out of question.

Dream scenario: Fakhar and Imam score tons, and Amir rips through England.

Only one doing the ripping will be Shadab or Abbas.
 
Best case scenario we absolutely smash England in the series and in the very next series they take out ghussa on India and dish out epic phainti :srini

People bring in India to pak vs eng match thread, then they don’t want Indian fans to respond on this. If we do, we are the one derailing the thread.:facepalm:

BTW You can keep dreaming. But India will be thrashing England this time. We have all bases covered.
 
People bring in India to pak vs eng match thread, then they don’t want Indian fans to respond on this. If we do, we are the one derailing the thread.:facepalm:

BTW You can keep dreaming. But India will be thrashing England this time. We have all bases covered.
It will be an upset if England escape with a draw this time.

5 Tests.

When was the last time there was a 5 match Test series other than The Ashes?
 
Imam
Fakhar
Azhar
Asad
Babar / Haris
Sarfraz
Faheem
Shadab
Hassan
Amir
Abbas

This could be the first tests playing eleven. I would definitely give chance to fakhar on top to put some pressure on big mouth broad and other fast bowlers
 
Question to Junaid, will England take Pakistan seriously as they have a big series against no 1 test team coming up in 2 months time?
 
Some people were very worried after that Ireland test. This sudden improvement in mood just because of a weather forecast surprised a realist like me :). Anyways, good luck!

Some people are always very worried.
This weather thing is all in light humor. Sun or clouds Pak will be ready.
 
I don't think it will be easy for us to Draw the Test !!!!!!! Hope we at least do that .... let alone win !!!!!!
 
Weather is good, the team has had plenty of practice leading up to this series.

The key will be Sarfraz captaincy, top order Pakistan batting and imo with a bit of luck you will see Shadab making his name in this series. If the wicket gives him some purchase, he could be lethal against the England batsmen.
 
Weather is good, the team has had plenty of practice leading up to this series.

The key will be Sarfraz captaincy, top order Pakistan batting and imo with a bit of luck you will see Shadab making his name in this series. If the wicket gives him some purchase, he could be lethal against the England batsmen.

They need to get their XI bang on but I agree with you that there should be no excuses if a defeat is to take place, they've prepared as well as they possibly could. They're an inexperienced bunch so we shouldn't expect too much but I believe we have the ability to cause an upset and win a Test at the very least. Like you say, captaincy will be vital; Misbah played a very key role last time round and was our man of the series I believe.
 
He isnt in the team because of being in Mickey's good books, he's in it because he just played a matchwinning knock at Malahide.

If he fails for a continued stretch of games again, he will be dropped. Funny thing is, people are clamouring for Fakhar to be included on the basis of his LOI form, yet harp on about how Babar shouldnt be selected for the same reason.

Fakhar has a higher FC avg then Babar so definitely deserves it more.

Babar after 12 tests is a sub 20s avg. batsman which weakens an already vulnerable line up further.

But given the options on hand, I prefer Fakhar and Babar over Azhar & Shafiq. Sick of defensive style of batting.
 
Azhar
Fakhar
Imam
Asad
Babar
Sarf
Shadab
Faheem
Amir
Hasan
Abbas

expecting this..hoping Haris gets a spot for stability.
 
If I had it my way,
1_Azhar
2_Imam
3_Haris
4_Babar
5_Fakhar
6_Shadab
7_Fahim
8_Sarfraz
9_Amir
10_Hassan
11_Abbas
Thats the best possible combo considering all things, Batting till 10, 3 fast bowlers one fast medium all rounder, one spin all rounder, 2 left arm 2 right arm pacers, plus 3 good part timers, mean 8 possible bowling option, which mean variety and depth, this team have it both, plus great left right combo in batting with 6 righties and 5 lefties, once upon a time we had one or 2 lefties at most that too bowlers, Asad and Azhar both have been bang average thus for in this tour but Azhar recent performances have earned him a longer rope, Asad can still be in the squad but don't deserve to be in the XI, and before most of you jump in and say both Azhar or imam are too defensive but tell me with a straight face who have more chances to survive clouderson and Barbie in early summer under cloudy skies, these two with solid defense or fakhar? And it's coming from big fakhar fan, his attacking prowess should be used in middle order out of Asia, and if our openers can score even 50 without no loss till lunch they would have done their job of saving middle order from new cherry, and this middle order is dynamic enough to score at over 3.5 and all of them potentially can bat at 50 plus career strike rate. So they can make up for slow start. [MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] [MENTION=138254]Syed1[/MENTION] [MENTION=137148]Rayyman[/MENTION] [MENTION=134608]Hawkeye[/MENTION] [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] [MENTION=140234]DRsohail[/MENTION] [MENTION=9]Saj[/MENTION] agree guys?

You tagged me in this identical post in 3 threads - I am trying to answer all 3 here.

First, if FZ hits a hundred against L'ster - he almost did that. No, I won't drop Azhar in any case. He has been out for single digit mostly (in this tour), which doesn't really say that he is finished. In a longer game, a series of 3/4 single digit scores don't tell that batsman is struggling; rather if he gets out regularly after an hour stay is more alarming - it indicates lack of capability. Once Azhar survived 1st hour, batted for 2 sessions - I'll keep him as opener. Besides, he is a limited player, but extremely gutsy - he improves with time in to the series. I expect him to do well at Lord's.

I don't think, FZ deserves a spot in XI if PAK goes with a 5 batsmen combination. In that case, only open spot is Haris (Asad isn't going while Babar did save his spot in last innings) - which I think wrong in 2 aspects - 1. Haris is better fitted in Test game (though he needs to deliver now). 2. Which is critical - replacing FZ means, either he'll bat at 3 (or 1-2), and Babar or Azhar at 3 - neither is a good idea for me. I read, it's going to be a dry London (When I used to live there; in May, dry means, we could see Sun for few hours, but time might have changed now) - in that case PAK might go for a 6+4 combination (which from team talk, sounds unlikely though), taking a chance of 35-40 overs from part-timers. In that case I'll take FZ at 6, at the expense of Fahim. Usman has batted well, but I don't think at 6 he adds any dimension - it's like playing Azhar at 6.

Among PAK batsmen, I am not sure who is going to score most; but if it's dry summer, Asad should enjoy his drives. I would expect Babar to score lot - he is too good for an average of 25, at one point he'll start to make up ground. For PAK, MOST critical is Sarfraz to get runs - at this age/fitness, he is not going to improve in Keeping drastically, so his best chance to contribute (read not cost his team) with bat. I hope in 4 innings, he scores close to 150, at least over 100 with one critical innings of 60-70, in crunch time. Advantage (if you look it in a positive way) for PAK line-up is, it's not dependent on one Kohli or Smith for putting a winning total - all 6/7 are almost equally good or bad. This can be a strength as well - often fielding side gets caught off-guard from an unexpected corner; it think PAK's best chance to compete with bat is this surprise - score some quick runs when Poms just can get a bit complacent. In that regard, Sarfraz, Fahim/FZ, Shadab are most important batsman for me, unless top order puts them at 57/5 every time.

For the combination of first Test, if I am honest - I won't have played Sarfraz. If there was a VC assigned & a back-up WK, I guess Sarfraz would have been "injured" by now. He is playing and for that I actually would play 6 batsmen & take a chance with 4 bowlers + part-timers - Fahim'll miss the cut, for FZ at 6 (Sarfraz at 7). If it's a dry Lord's, Fahim's bowling isn't going to work much, rather FZ might become handy on 4th innings. Also, in that case PAK should bat first and try to set up a score for Shadab, Hasan & Haris, FZ in 4th innings - in any case ENG might bowl first.

I think, it'll be a good game, but couple of PAK players have to play outstanding game to make it close.
 
Update from Pak team physio:

Amir had tendon tendinitis. He's training perfectly fine at the moment and will participate in a full training session tomorrow. He's got very little, if any symptoms of anything left in his right knee and I suspect he'll have a full recovery before the Lord's Test.

Hasan hurt his hand during the two-day match against Leicestershire. He was trying to take a catch and split a bit of the webbing between his thumb and index finger. He was assessed by the medical staff and two stitches were inserted as a precautionary measure. It's a superficial wound. I'm going to try and keep Hasan away from training tomorrow to give him enough chance to get that superficial wound to heal. At this point in time, he's still available for selection.

At this point in time, we have a full squad, there’s two training days left and I think all the guys are really looking forward to taking on England.
 
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Dont worry they will. No 7 team last time won 2 out of 4. No 1 side got spanked.:salute

We were not a no 1 team then, moreover it was 3-1 vs 2-2. You are talking as if you won the series and we lost the series 5-0.:))

you are talking about past record as you know your current no 7 team is pretty average which lost to poor SL at home, has no chance to beat this eng team. You know when did you last win the series in eng? Maybe you were not born then.:)
 
We were not a no 1 team then, moreover it was 3-1 vs 2-2. You are talking as if you won the series and we lost the series 5-0.:))

you are talking about past record as you know your current no 7 team is pretty average which lost to poor SL at home, has no chance to beat this eng team. You know when did you last win the series in eng? Maybe you were not born then.:)

As an Indian dont talk too much about the past. Pak wipes the floor with India in test cricket.:salute
 
As an Indian dont talk too much about the past. Pak wipes the floor with India in test cricket.:salute

First of all you are the one who brought in past record and second of all, no you don’t have anything to back up your “pak wipes the floor with India in test” comment. Both teams have won same number of series head to head. Both have not won any series in Aus and SA but India have won more test matches against them at home. India has won more series in Windies whereas Pak has won more series in NZ. Almost same number of matches won in eng if I remember correctly.

You know what India wipes the floor with pak in WC games. 11-0. Shhhhhhhhh
 
Weather forecast has changed and now raining most of Thursday afternoon. Should bowl first if we win the toss and hope to skittle out England for a low score and then bat the other days when weather is better.
 
I hope Thursday is rained off, the only day I can attend is Monday.
 
First of all you are the one who brought in past record and second of all, no you don’t have anything to back up your “pak wipes the floor with India in test” comment. Both teams have won same number of series head to head. Both have not won any series in Aus and SA but India have won more test matches against them at home. India has won more series in Windies whereas Pak has won more series in NZ. Almost same number of matches won in eng if I remember correctly.

You know what India wipes the floor with pak in WC games. 11-0. Shhhhhhhhh

LOL just check the H2H record in tests. And why you fall back on the wc? We are talking test matches.:danish
 
I was against Fakhar playing but think we should play him now. He just seems too determined, feel he's going to pull through. I also think other teams will be more wary of Fakhar than Babar, whilst Babar is more talented and a better LOI bat, I don't think he's ready, teams will look at him and realise his bad test record (and mediocre domestic 5 day stats). Fakhar on the other hand, there's less evidence to predict, plus they know that Fakhar has done well in the CT and scored centuries in England already. Usually I'd always prefer to pick the player the opposition is least looking forward to face, and atm think that's Fakhar over Babar.

We need a strong start, and what's interesting is Imam, Azhar, Fakhar, they've all played with each other either in internationals or domestic. So having them as our top 3 wouldn't be bad.

I'd drop Fahim for reasons I've stated in the past, I think we'd be more secure with a proper bat, and Fahim seems to add little with the ball. Fakhar coming in would also add yet another part time option to our team to share workload of the bowlers.

I'd go with a team

1. Azhar
2. Fakhar
3. Imam
4. Asad
5. Haris
6. Usman
7. Sarfraz
8. Shadab
9. Amir
10. Hasan
11. Abbas

Azhar could switch positions with Imam or Fakhar switch with Imam, but think maybe it's best to stick with the duo opening. Whatever the combination of the top 3, I'd prefer left-right combination at the top anyway.

I think Asad should be promoted up the order to four. We need to use his experience, and if he continues to be at 6, there's no point we should just get a new batsmen. The only way for him to really step up as a senior is up the order in a top 4 position, he needs to sink or swim. Or we're going to have our version of Ian Bell on our hands.
 
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play Fakhar as opener, move Azhar back to #3 , move every one after 1 batting position lower and drop Fahim?
 
LOL just check the H2H record in tests. And why you fall back on the wc? We are talking test matches.:danish

No of series won is same 4-4, pak have won more games. 12-9 is not wiping the floor with India.

I didn’t mean to bring in World Cup stats, I wanted to show you an example what wiping the floor with opponent team means. 11-0 is a perfect example. India wiped the floor with Pak in WC games.
 
Looks like certain people wont stand for Pakistanis to think highly of their team going into this series or in general. :shezzy
 
Why in the world is Rahat still there? Hasan is a better bowler, fielder and batter. This is preposterous.
 
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