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Hammered Pakistan in T20Is though.
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England white-ball captain : Eoin Morgan
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And another duck....
Back-to-back blobs for the England skipper, who slices Cooper to short third man while looking to get off the mark with a big shot over the leg-side.
Back-to-back blobs for the England skipper, who slices Cooper to short third man while looking to get off the mark with a big shot over the leg-side.
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Morgan has an awful ICC tournament with the bat coming up. He is not the same player that he was 3 years ago. And once that happens he will be sent packing.
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Seems like he's given up on being a batter. Like he hasn't seemed much interested in scoring runs for some good time now.
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Jason Roy backs England one-day captain Eoin Morgan to recover form after latest duck
Jason Roy has backed Eoin Morgan to rediscover his one-day form after the England captain was out for a second successive duck against the Netherlands as his side wrapped up a series win.
Morgan's last half-century in any format of cricket came in July 2021.
"He's just a knock away from everyone being all over him again," said Roy, who marked his 100th ODI cap with 73 off 60 balls in Amstelveen.
"That's just the fickle nature of sport."
Roy's knock, along with Phil Salt's 77, helped England easily chase down the Dutch score of 236 for a six-wicket win in the second of three one-day internationals.
"We won the game so [Morgan] puts [the duck] to bed straight away. As soon as the result's there, he's happy," said Roy, who added that he was backing his captain "for sure".
Roy's landmark occasion saw his wife and daughter make the trip over to Amsterdam, where he was presented with his centenary cap by another man who has played more than 100 ODIs for England, Moeen Ali.
"He's the perfect guy to give it to you," said Roy. "You're not judged by your cricket in this group, you're judged as a person and the energy you bring, how hard you work. If he went on [speaking] for a minute longer, there might have been a tear or two."
Opener Roy was handed a suspended two-game international ban earlier this year for an undisclosed charge by the cricket discipline commission and said he went through a tough time at the start of 2022.
"Things mentally weren't right with me at the PSL [Pakistan Super League]. I was in a weird place because I was playing good cricket but I wasn't enjoying myself, I wasn't happy and it was just a dark time," said Roy.
Roy, whose son was born in January, withdrew from the Indian Premier League and took a "short indefinite break" from cricket, which he believes was key to helping him back to form.
"It was just a good two months to come home and live a normal life for a bit after a tough couple of years and a lot of months away," he added.
"I think we had over 50 days of hotel quarantine the year before and then having a child in January and having to spend time away from him was just a bit too much."
Having seen England's Test XI win their series against New Zealand in entertaining fashion under Brendon McCullum, Roy says he would still love to play for the red-ball side.
"I haven't shut the door on Test cricket but the opportunity to play red-ball is few and far between for Surrey," he said. "Like I did before, pushing myself forward with white-ball runs is probably the way forward but the team and squad they've got now is extremely special and capable of doing great things."
https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/61860567
Jason Roy has backed Eoin Morgan to rediscover his one-day form after the England captain was out for a second successive duck against the Netherlands as his side wrapped up a series win.
Morgan's last half-century in any format of cricket came in July 2021.
"He's just a knock away from everyone being all over him again," said Roy, who marked his 100th ODI cap with 73 off 60 balls in Amstelveen.
"That's just the fickle nature of sport."
Roy's knock, along with Phil Salt's 77, helped England easily chase down the Dutch score of 236 for a six-wicket win in the second of three one-day internationals.
"We won the game so [Morgan] puts [the duck] to bed straight away. As soon as the result's there, he's happy," said Roy, who added that he was backing his captain "for sure".
Roy's landmark occasion saw his wife and daughter make the trip over to Amsterdam, where he was presented with his centenary cap by another man who has played more than 100 ODIs for England, Moeen Ali.
"He's the perfect guy to give it to you," said Roy. "You're not judged by your cricket in this group, you're judged as a person and the energy you bring, how hard you work. If he went on [speaking] for a minute longer, there might have been a tear or two."
Opener Roy was handed a suspended two-game international ban earlier this year for an undisclosed charge by the cricket discipline commission and said he went through a tough time at the start of 2022.
"Things mentally weren't right with me at the PSL [Pakistan Super League]. I was in a weird place because I was playing good cricket but I wasn't enjoying myself, I wasn't happy and it was just a dark time," said Roy.
Roy, whose son was born in January, withdrew from the Indian Premier League and took a "short indefinite break" from cricket, which he believes was key to helping him back to form.
"It was just a good two months to come home and live a normal life for a bit after a tough couple of years and a lot of months away," he added.
"I think we had over 50 days of hotel quarantine the year before and then having a child in January and having to spend time away from him was just a bit too much."
Having seen England's Test XI win their series against New Zealand in entertaining fashion under Brendon McCullum, Roy says he would still love to play for the red-ball side.
"I haven't shut the door on Test cricket but the opportunity to play red-ball is few and far between for Surrey," he said. "Like I did before, pushing myself forward with white-ball runs is probably the way forward but the team and squad they've got now is extremely special and capable of doing great things."
https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/61860567
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Liam Livingstone has backed England white-ball captain Eoin Morgan to return to form with the bat, believing he is one score away from being back to his best.
Morgan has failed to score a run so far on England's tour of the Netherlands, dismissed for a duck in both of the first two ODIs, and his last half century in any format came a year ago against Sri Lanka.
Speaking to Sky Sports ahead of the third and final ODI on Wednesday, Livingstone praised England's World Cup-winning captain and said he feels a score will come soon.
"I think the thing that has been forgotten is Morgs is an unbelievable leader," Livingstone said. "He is the leader of our team and everybody knows he is only one score away.
"I'm sure that score will come very soon and he'll be off and running again."
England have already clinched a comprehensive series win, leading 2-0 with one to play, with the first of their victories seeing the visitors post a world-record score of 498-4 in Friday's opener.
Jos Buttler was one of three centurions in that game - smashing an unbeaten 162 off 70 balls - while Livingstone tonked England's record-fastest fifty, off just 17 balls.
It continued a remarkable run of form for Buttler, with his exploits following a superb IPL season in which he finish as the tournament leading run-scorer, hitting four hundreds for Rajasthan Royals.
"To watch Jos go about his business, it was nice to have him on my side this time round," Livingstone said. "It was pretty special to watch, especially from the other end.
"It's been great fun. It was nice to obviously break the world record on Friday, the lads have put in some really good cricket, it has been a great standard and hopefully it's the same again [on Wednesday
https://www.skysports.com/cricket/n...white-ball-captain-to-rediscover-batting-form
Morgan has failed to score a run so far on England's tour of the Netherlands, dismissed for a duck in both of the first two ODIs, and his last half century in any format came a year ago against Sri Lanka.
Speaking to Sky Sports ahead of the third and final ODI on Wednesday, Livingstone praised England's World Cup-winning captain and said he feels a score will come soon.
"I think the thing that has been forgotten is Morgs is an unbelievable leader," Livingstone said. "He is the leader of our team and everybody knows he is only one score away.
"I'm sure that score will come very soon and he'll be off and running again."
England have already clinched a comprehensive series win, leading 2-0 with one to play, with the first of their victories seeing the visitors post a world-record score of 498-4 in Friday's opener.
Jos Buttler was one of three centurions in that game - smashing an unbeaten 162 off 70 balls - while Livingstone tonked England's record-fastest fifty, off just 17 balls.
It continued a remarkable run of form for Buttler, with his exploits following a superb IPL season in which he finish as the tournament leading run-scorer, hitting four hundreds for Rajasthan Royals.
"To watch Jos go about his business, it was nice to have him on my side this time round," Livingstone said. "It was pretty special to watch, especially from the other end.
"It's been great fun. It was nice to obviously break the world record on Friday, the lads have put in some really good cricket, it has been a great standard and hopefully it's the same again [on Wednesday
https://www.skysports.com/cricket/n...white-ball-captain-to-rediscover-batting-form
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Morgan missing out today with a groin injury - suffered the same problem earlier in the summer with Middlesex.
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As Eoin Morgan eases himself between the sheets in his bed at the England team hotel on Wednesday evening his mind may start to wander.
To batting in the nets on a concrete strip with a beer keg as stumps at Rush Cricket Club, the seaside commuter town on the outskirts of Dublin, as a youngster. To the time he boldly told Ireland's selectors aged 13 his dream was to play for England.
To his maiden one-day international hundred for Ireland against Canada, to his England debut. To his appointment as England white-ball captain. To his blueprints, his vision, his transformation.
To beating the best and reaching the top. To his 148 from 71 balls against Afghanistan. To Cricket World Cup glory and to his place in history. To his team-mates, to the joy of the greatest days.
But then his thoughts may drift some more. To the niggles, the aches and pains. To one half-century in the past 65 innings he's played in all matches. To being unsold in the Indian Premier League. To one ball last Friday. To seven excruciating balls on Sunday. To no runs. To rashness, to feet that feel like they are in lead boots, to parts of the body not quite moving in unison anymore.
To the groin injury which ruled him out of the final ODI in Amstelveen, and a chance to prove to everyone he could still do it. He still had it. He could still bat.
To the questions. To the scrutiny. To the time away from home. To his wife Tara and young son Leo. To self-doubt. To whether, at nearly 36, it is time to break his own gentleman's agreement with English cricket, his paymasters, his fans, his colleagues. To cancel the unwritten pact he had earned the right to go out on his terms. To whether he should resign.
On Sunday, Morgan had bitten his bottom lip as he traipsed off, shoulders slumped forward staring at the turf, unwilling to make any hint of eye contact with Liam Livingstone, the next man in at the VRA Cricket Ground in Amstelveen.
A defence mechanism of forced positivity followed. He puffed his chest out then sheepishly smiled his way through soft team questions in the post-match media duties with television broadcasters. He watched on two days later as his team-mates warmed up in the Dutch sunshine, keeping his poker face.
So far, the England camp - his team-mates, his friends - have dead-batted talk of his demise, trotting out the cricketing platitudes: Morgs looks good in the nets, Morgs just needs a score, Morgs will come good.
"There's ups and downs in everyone's careers," his England team-mate Jason Roy had said with defiance. "I've had a shocking few games at times and at some stage things turn around. They have for me and it's no different with him. He's an incredible guy around the changing room. An incredible captain and he's working just as hard as the next man."
It's a measure of his leadership qualities, the unswerving loyalty he has engendered, that so many of his players are so willing to go out to bat for him - with their words off the field and their actions on it. Masking his failures with the bat, yet unwittingly highlighting them, in the cruellest of paradoxes.
"He's always leading the group really well," Sam Curran pleaded. "I'm very certain it just takes that one knock when he gets back into form and everyone would have forgotten about it."
Yet surely now only the most loyal Morganistas in England's group truly believe what they say about his batting. Away from the cameras and dictaphones. In hushed conversations in the narrow streets of Amsterdam, strolling along the canals, over coffee, it will not have been far from their lips. In the back of their minds.
His skills as a captain are undiminished. His mind still tactically sharp. Yet, how much longer can he hold others back. They know that Jonny Bairstow and Ben Stokes will come back in when it matters. That they could miss out. That everyone else here in the Netherlands has made runs in favourable batting conditions. That Sam Hain and Harry Brook are middle-order batters back home smashing it in the Blast, knocking on the door.
They know that in Jos Buttler there is a readymade heir. A man in the form of his life, and arguably just as tactically astute. That he is ready. That his comments about pushing to make 500 in ODIs will be spearheaded by him, not held back by him. That he already has their respect.
They knew that Joe Root was the run-scoring captain who couldn't buy a win. They know Morgan is the winning captain who can't buy a run.
Now it feels inevitable that something has to give. That the end of days are coming. Now he waits. They wait. We wait.
BBC
To batting in the nets on a concrete strip with a beer keg as stumps at Rush Cricket Club, the seaside commuter town on the outskirts of Dublin, as a youngster. To the time he boldly told Ireland's selectors aged 13 his dream was to play for England.
To his maiden one-day international hundred for Ireland against Canada, to his England debut. To his appointment as England white-ball captain. To his blueprints, his vision, his transformation.
To beating the best and reaching the top. To his 148 from 71 balls against Afghanistan. To Cricket World Cup glory and to his place in history. To his team-mates, to the joy of the greatest days.
But then his thoughts may drift some more. To the niggles, the aches and pains. To one half-century in the past 65 innings he's played in all matches. To being unsold in the Indian Premier League. To one ball last Friday. To seven excruciating balls on Sunday. To no runs. To rashness, to feet that feel like they are in lead boots, to parts of the body not quite moving in unison anymore.
To the groin injury which ruled him out of the final ODI in Amstelveen, and a chance to prove to everyone he could still do it. He still had it. He could still bat.
To the questions. To the scrutiny. To the time away from home. To his wife Tara and young son Leo. To self-doubt. To whether, at nearly 36, it is time to break his own gentleman's agreement with English cricket, his paymasters, his fans, his colleagues. To cancel the unwritten pact he had earned the right to go out on his terms. To whether he should resign.
On Sunday, Morgan had bitten his bottom lip as he traipsed off, shoulders slumped forward staring at the turf, unwilling to make any hint of eye contact with Liam Livingstone, the next man in at the VRA Cricket Ground in Amstelveen.
A defence mechanism of forced positivity followed. He puffed his chest out then sheepishly smiled his way through soft team questions in the post-match media duties with television broadcasters. He watched on two days later as his team-mates warmed up in the Dutch sunshine, keeping his poker face.
So far, the England camp - his team-mates, his friends - have dead-batted talk of his demise, trotting out the cricketing platitudes: Morgs looks good in the nets, Morgs just needs a score, Morgs will come good.
"There's ups and downs in everyone's careers," his England team-mate Jason Roy had said with defiance. "I've had a shocking few games at times and at some stage things turn around. They have for me and it's no different with him. He's an incredible guy around the changing room. An incredible captain and he's working just as hard as the next man."
It's a measure of his leadership qualities, the unswerving loyalty he has engendered, that so many of his players are so willing to go out to bat for him - with their words off the field and their actions on it. Masking his failures with the bat, yet unwittingly highlighting them, in the cruellest of paradoxes.
"He's always leading the group really well," Sam Curran pleaded. "I'm very certain it just takes that one knock when he gets back into form and everyone would have forgotten about it."
Yet surely now only the most loyal Morganistas in England's group truly believe what they say about his batting. Away from the cameras and dictaphones. In hushed conversations in the narrow streets of Amsterdam, strolling along the canals, over coffee, it will not have been far from their lips. In the back of their minds.
His skills as a captain are undiminished. His mind still tactically sharp. Yet, how much longer can he hold others back. They know that Jonny Bairstow and Ben Stokes will come back in when it matters. That they could miss out. That everyone else here in the Netherlands has made runs in favourable batting conditions. That Sam Hain and Harry Brook are middle-order batters back home smashing it in the Blast, knocking on the door.
They know that in Jos Buttler there is a readymade heir. A man in the form of his life, and arguably just as tactically astute. That he is ready. That his comments about pushing to make 500 in ODIs will be spearheaded by him, not held back by him. That he already has their respect.
They knew that Joe Root was the run-scoring captain who couldn't buy a win. They know Morgan is the winning captain who can't buy a run.
Now it feels inevitable that something has to give. That the end of days are coming. Now he waits. They wait. We wait.
BBC
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This is potentially an eleven that England can field
Bairstow
Roy
Salt
Butler
Livingstone
Brooks
Stokes
Moeen
Archer
Adil/Willey/Topley
Wood/Carse
I don't feel that they need Morgan at this moment and in this form. They have the world's most destructive set of batters at their disposal currently with people like Vince, Smeed, Malan, Root, and a few others who would be pretty useful in white-ball cricket but are currently missing out. Incredible depth of talent, almost an embarrassment of riches meanwhile there are teams trying to fit substandard players in their middle orders.
Bairstow
Roy
Salt
Butler
Livingstone
Brooks
Stokes
Moeen
Archer
Adil/Willey/Topley
Wood/Carse
I don't feel that they need Morgan at this moment and in this form. They have the world's most destructive set of batters at their disposal currently with people like Vince, Smeed, Malan, Root, and a few others who would be pretty useful in white-ball cricket but are currently missing out. Incredible depth of talent, almost an embarrassment of riches meanwhile there are teams trying to fit substandard players in their middle orders.
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