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Harsh Thakor

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This is my list in order of merit of England's best batsmen after the war in order of merit.

1.Graham Gooch-On top because he dominated great West Indian bowling at home and away as well as mastered spin bowling home and away..In 1981 in the Carribean averaged above 57 including a 150 at Kingston.In 1991 at Leeds scored arguably the best century ever against West Indies.Also mastered turning sub-continent tracks in India with a masterly century at Madras in 1981-82.In 1990 versus India ammased a record aggregate of 752 runs in a 3 test match series.In 1992 at Leeds showed mastery against the swing of Waqar and Wasim.In combined cricket the most prolific batsmen ever.He could take the best of pace attacks by the scruff of the neck wit the spirit of a tiger in combat.His drives and hook shots were truly majestic.At times vulnerable against fast-medium as he showed against Terry Aldermna in 1981 and 1989 in home Ashes series.



2.Ted Dexter

Rated above May and Cowdrey because he scored runs when most needed.Ina crisis possibly the best batsman in the world of his era.He could master any type of conditions or any kind of bowling attack.His two great innings against West Indies and Australia were classic examples of combat in batting.Very stylish and never curbed strokeplay.Gary Sobers rated DExter as the best Englsih batsmen he ever played against.



3.Peter May
Outstanding consistency with a great flair for driving.Generally regarded by English critiques as the best post war middle-order batsmen who played for England.However in Gary Sober's view did not relish the short ball and refrained from hooking.Mya did not prove himself on Carribean or Australian tarcks and to me lacked Dexter's combative spirit.



4.Ken Barrington

Statistically the best English post-war batsman averaging 58.67 and a great batsman to bat for your life.In terms of statistics in the Viv Richards or Sunil Gavakar l class.However he lacked consistent agression to win matches.




5.Geoff Boycott
Often boring an unexciting but after Len Hutton the most technically accomplished English batsman of all.No post-war Englishman posessed the depths of concentration or the technical mastery of Geoff Boycott.His batting was like a lesson in the coaching manual.Defied the great West Indian pace attack like a boulder in 1981.True at times selfish but often scored prolifically in low-scoring games which gave England a chance of winning.In first class cricket the only batsman to average above 100 in 2 English seasons.Arguably the most difficult batsman to dislodge in his era.Made a significant contribution to England's victories in the 1977 home Ashes and the 1969-70 Ashes win in Australia.





6.Colin Cowdrey
On his day arguably the best batsman in the world and the best player of pace bowling in the middle -order.Colin was outstanding technically and played great fast bowling as well as any great batsman like Viv Richards.In the 1959-60 tour of West Indies scored 2 centuries,averaging over 66.At Kingston he compile a classic 114 and 97.On the 1967-68 tour again scored 2 centuries,including a masterly 150 at Trinidad.Arguably played Wes Hall and Griffiths better than any one.However not at his best on slow wickets where the ball did not come on to the bat.On those pitches he looked out of sorts.Made a remarkable comeback facing Lillee and Thomson in 1975 and won a game scoring 151 n.o.His 102 out of 191 v Australia was a batting classic .






7..David Gower

Had he done justice to his extraordinary natural ability he would have been classed with Viv Richards or Graeme Pollock..No left-handed batsmen had as much inborne talent or posessed Gower's elegance.His batting reminded you of a violinist strutting his strings.At his best against great pace bowling like when scoring 154 n.oat Kingston in 1981 .In 1984 in Pakistan averaged around 100 and in the 1985 home Ashes amassed 732 runs.Superbly tackled Australian pace bowling on the 1982-83 tour of Australia and averaged above 77 in the 1986-87Ashes tour down under.In terms of talent the most gifted post-war English batsman .




8.Kevin Peterson

At his best like a modern day Viv Richards.No batsmen tore apart great pace like Kevin Pieterson.He was master on bouncy pitches and relished the short ball.Above all he was great match-winner.



9.Dennis Ammis

One of the best batsman against the West Indian pace attack.At his best in 1973-74 in West Indies when scoring 262 at Barbados.and topping the batting averages.Also scored a huge aggregate in 1976 against Holding and Roberts.One of the best opening batsmen of the 1970's ,almost Boycott's equal.



10.Alistair Cook

His outstanding statistics has to rank him with the best of batsman averaging around 50 with a staggering aggreagate about 2 years ago.Superb down under in 2010-11.



11.Alec Stewart

Ever consistent and brilliant in a crisis.Never sacrificed the team's interests and came out on top in the most difficult of situations.Faced Wasim Akram or Curtly Ambrose with meticulous skill.




12.Alan Lamb

At his best against the great West Indian pace attack like he showed when scoring 3 centuries in 1984 and 2 in the Carribean later.Brilliant improviser and master in run chases or finishes on one day games.


My order maybe controversial.Graham Gooch's great combative mastery over pace bowling and spin won him top spot.Ted Dexter is ahead of Cowdrey or May because of mastery in a crisis.Peter May is chosen because of his great flair and consistency.Barrington ,not at the top as he lacked the match-winning flair.Boycott is rated very high because of consistency and ability to bat for your life.Gower and Cowdrey were outstandingly talented but often seemed to loose interest and not assert themselves over bowlers.At their best they could have made the all -time world xi's.Alan Lamb is taken because of his mastery at improvisation while Alistair Cook's record speaks for itself.
 
No Hutton and Compton?

I am only counting batsman who started test career after 1947.If scored for runs before the war I have not counted.egLen Hutton.Otherwise ofcourse Hutton and Compton would be at the top.
 
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I am only counting batsman who started test career after 1947.If scored for runs before the war I have not counted.egLen Hutton.Otherwise ofcourse Hutton and Compton would be at the top.

Hutton played 66 out of his 79 tests after the war and Compton played 70 of his 78 tests after the War.

They have to be considered in any legitimate list of post war batsmen
 
Hutton played 66 out of his 79 tests after the war and Compton played 70 of his 78 tests after the War.

They have to be considered in any legitimate list of post war batsmen

O.K.I will redo list respecting your views.
 
Greatest post-war English batsman (revised list)

This is my list in order of merit of England's best batsmen after the war in order of merit.In this new list I have added Hutton and Compton as they had their major career after the 2nd world war.Sorry for error in excluding them in earlier write-up.



1.Len Hutton
Technically the best batsman of all time and arguably the best ever opening batsmen.Could master the most difficult wickets and bowling attacks.Although defensive,was one of test cricket's great match wining batsmen.His batting won series in West Indies and Australia.Averaged 56.67 ,scoring 6974 runs in 138 test matches which is remarkable by any standards.To me morally the equal of Sunil Gavaskar.One time scored the world record score of 365.However at his best when scoring 37 out of 49 on a broken wicket at Sydney.


2.Denis Compton

The most creative batsman of his era or arguably ever.Compton was the equivalent of a magician to batting.When batting he looked like a musical composer.His artistic flair was never at the cost of performance.His batting often turned the tide of test matches.He averaged 50.06 scoring 5807 runs but it was more about how he scored the runs.Scored 100 first class centuries in 552 matches ,slower than only Bradman and in 1947 scored the record aggregate of 3816 runs for an English first class season.


3.Graham Gooch-On top because he dominated great West Indian bowling at home and away as well as mastered spin bowling home and away..In 1981 in the Carribean averaged above 57 including a 150 at Kingston.In 1991 at Leeds scored arguably the best century ever against West Indies.Also mastered turning sub-continent tracks in India with a masterly century at Madras in 1981-82.In 1990 versus India ammased a record aggregate of 752 runs in a 3 test match series.In 1992 at Leeds showed mastery against the swing of Waqar and Wasim.In combined cricket the most prolific batsmen ever.He could take the best of pace attacks by the scruff of the neck wit the spirit of a tiger in combat.His drives and hook shots were truly majestic.At times vulnerable against fast-medium as he showed against Terry Aldermna in 1981 and 1989 in home Ashes series.



4.Ted Dexter

Rated above May and Cowdrey because he scored runs when most needed.Ina crisis possibly the best batsman in the world of his era.He could master any type of conditions or any kind of bowling attack.His two great innings against West Indies and Australia were classic examples of combat in batting.Very stylish and never curbed strokeplay.Gary Sobers rated DExter as the best Englsih batsmen he ever played against.



5.Peter May
Outstanding consistency with a great flair for driving.Generally regarded by English critiques as the best post war middle-order batsmen who played for England.However in Gary Sober's view did not relish the short ball and refrained from hooking.Mya did not prove himself on Carribean or Australian tarcks and to me lacked Dexter's combative spirit.



6.Ken Barrington

Statistically the best English post-war batsman averaging 58.67 and a great batsman to bat for your life.In terms of statistics in the Viv Richards or Sunil Gavakar l class.However he lacked consistent agression to win matches.




7.Geoff Boycott
Often boring an unexciting but after Len Hutton the most technically accomplished English batsman of all.No post-war Englishman posessed the depths of concentration or the technical mastery of Geoff Boycott.His batting was like a lesson in the coaching manual.Defied the great West Indian pace attack like a boulder in 1981.True at times selfish but often scored prolifically in low-scoring games which gave England a chance of winning.In first class cricket the only batsman to average above 100 in 2 English seasons.Arguably the most difficult batsman to dislodge in his era.Made a significant contribution to England's victories in the 1977 home Ashes and the 1969-70 Ashes win in Australia.





8.Colin Cowdrey
On his day arguably the best batsman in the world and the best player of pace bowling in the middle -order.Colin was outstanding technically and played great fast bowling as well as any great batsman like Viv Richards.In the 1959-60 tour of West Indies scored 2 centuries,averaging over 66.At Kingston he compile a classic 114 and 97.On the 1967-68 tour again scored 2 centuries,including a masterly 150 at Trinidad.Arguably played Wes Hall and Griffiths better than any one.However not at his best on slow wickets where the ball did not come on to the bat.On those pitches he looked out of sorts.Made a remarkable comeback facing Lillee and Thomson in 1975 and won a game scoring 151 n.o.His 102 out of 191 v Australia was a batting classic .






9..David Gower

Had he done justice to his extraordinary natural ability he would have been classed with Viv Richards or Graeme Pollock..No left-handed batsmen had as much inborne talent or posessed Gower's elegance.His batting reminded you of a violinist strutting his strings.At his best against great pace bowling like when scoring 154 n.oat Kingston in 1981 .In 1984 in Pakistan averaged around 100 and in the 1985 home Ashes amassed 732 runs.Superbly tackled Australian pace bowling on the 1982-83 tour of Australia and averaged above 77 in the 1986-87Ashes tour down under.In terms of talent the most gifted post-war English batsman .




10.Kevin Peterson

At his best like a modern day Viv Richards.No batsmen tore apart great pace like Kevin Pieterson.He was master on bouncy pitches and relished the short ball.Above all he was great match-winner.



11.Dennis Amiss

One of the best batsman against the West Indian pace attack.At his best in 1973-74 in West Indies when scoring 262 at Barbados.and topping the batting averages.Also scored a huge aggregate in 1976 against Holding and Roberts.One of the best opening batsmen of the 1970's ,almost Boycott's equal.






12.Alec Stewart

Ever consistent and brilliant in a crisis.Never sacrificed the team's interests and came out on top in the most difficult of situations.Faced Wasim Akram or Curtly Ambrose with meticulous skill.Compiled a staggering aggregate of runs.









My order maybe controversial apart from Hutton and Compton at the top.Infact Hutton and Compton rolled into one would have made cricket's perfect batsman.Hutton was a worthy contender for Bradman's runner -up till today.and a favourite for opening the all-time xi.Graham Gooch's great combative mastery over pace bowling and spin won him 3rd spot.Ted Dexter is ahead of Cowdrey or May because of mastery in a crisis.Peter May is chosen because of his great flair and consistency.Barrington ,is not ahaed of stalwarts like Peter May as he lacked match-winning flair.Boycott is rated very high because of consistency and ability to bat for your life.Gower and Cowdrey were outstandingly talented but often seemed to loose interest and not assert themselves over bowlers..At their best they could have made the all -time world xi's.Pieterson makes it because of his match-wining aggression.Alec Stewart's gritty character won him my vote while Dennis Ammis was a master against the Calypsos.

Of the list to me Hutton.Compton,Gooch,Dexter,May,Barrington and Boycott make it to the truly 'great' category.Gower,Peterson and Cowdrey just missout.
 
Marylebone Cricket Club (MCC) is deeply saddened to announce the death of the Club’s much loved former President, Edward Dexter CBE. After a recent illness he passed away peacefully in the Compton Hospice in Wolverhampton at midday yesterday, surrounded by his family.
Ted was a cherished husband, father and grandfather and one of England’s greatest ever cricketers. He was captain in 30 of his 62 Test matches and played the game with the same sense of adventure and fun that captures much of the story of his remarkable life.

Through his own PR Agency, he became a pioneer in cricket’s digital technology revolution. In June this year, he was inducted into the ICC Hall of Fame.

We kindly request that the privacy of Susan, his wife, and Genevieve and Tom, his daughter and son, is respected at this difficult time.
 
Farewell Lord Ted, one of England’s best in a strong batting era. A batsman of ferocious power. Not so good an administrator, presiding over the disastrous Summer of Four Captains.
 
[MENTION=132062]Harsh Thakor[/MENTION] where does Root come on your list? 9000 test runs, average bang on fifty with 22 centuries so far.

And what about Graham Thorpe?
 
[MENTION=132062]Harsh Thakor[/MENTION] where does Root come on your list? 9000 test runs, average bang on fifty with 22 centuries so far.

And what about Graham Thorpe?

Thorpe lost my respect when his selfish batting denied Alex Tudor a 100 at Edgbaston in 1999.
 
If Root performs in Ashes later this year, he will be greatest post war England batsman for me. Being an all format all conditions bat and carrying a weak team alone, he deserves to be rated higher.
 
Thorpe lost my respect when his selfish batting denied Alex Tudor a 100 at Edgbaston in 1999.

Am guessing that he thought the win was more important. Tudes wasn’t a top order batter and there was nothing to come after him.

Consider the Nasser win in SL a year later. Thorpe was key to that, keeping Murali out to create time to score off the other bowlers.
 
Am guessing that he thought the win was more important. Tudes wasn’t a top order batter and there was nothing to come after him.

Consider the Nasser win in SL a year later. Thorpe was key to that, keeping Murali out to create time to score off the other bowlers.

If the game is tight then you only think about the winning, Tudor had all the hard work, Thorpe rode on his back and started to smash it. All he had to do was to let Tudor get his 100, but his jealousy got in the way. To this day I can't believe what he did.
 
Sad to hear of Ted Dexter's passing. I met him on a fair few occasions and he had some seriously antiquated views on international affairs and human beings but as a cricketing man, he was at times, a visionary.

I have a soft spot for him, for all his flaws.

PS. Root should be second or third on list of ATG English batsmen post the war.
 
Since 1970:-

1. Joe Root
2. Kevin Pietersen
3. Graham Gooch
4. Geoff Boycott
5. Alastair Cook
6. David Gower
7. Graham Thorpe
 
Since 1970:-

1. Joe Root
2. Kevin Pietersen
3. Graham Gooch
4. Geoff Boycott
5. Alastair Cook
6. David Gower
7. Graham Thorpe

West Indians of a certain age would say Gooch, who stood up and smashed them and was also excellent against spin. But he could be exposed by medium pace swingers, and Lillee had him number. Whereas Root does not appear to have a weakness.
 
Since 1970:-

1. Joe Root
2. Kevin Pietersen
3. Graham Gooch
4. Geoff Boycott
5. Alastair Cook
6. David Gower
7. Graham Thorpe

This list is looking very solid for Test cricket only, although KP is arguably still top overall when all formats of the game are considered.
 
For me Gooch, Gower, Stewart, Robin Smith and Mike Gatting. Never mind the averages and that I didn't like any English batsman who did well versus Pak:)) My best English batsman was Graeme Hick coz he was awful against us:)):))
 
This list is looking very solid for Test cricket only, although KP is arguably still top overall when all formats of the game are considered.

I would say Root and KP are neck and neck in ODIs. Root has a better adjusted average and lower adjusted SR. I would put both behind Bairstow and Buttler in ODIs. Overall Root is still quite a bit ahead than anybody else post 1960s.
 
That I have seen….

Boycott, Gooch, Gower, Stewart*, Thorpe, Pietersen, Root.

* I would include Stewart had he played more tests as a pure batsman. The way that guy smashed Wasim and Waqar about. The two centuries in the Barbados test against Walsh and Ambrose.
 
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