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England's poor ODI record in India since 2006

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2006: L L L L NA W L, NA refers to the rained out game.
2008: L L L L L, after which the series was called off because of 26/11.
2011: L L L L L, a straight up whitewash.
2013: W L L L W
2017: L*

This is nearly as bad as Australia's test record here. Why can't England make the cut? There are no demons in our ODI pitches.
 
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England would have more chances with demons in the pitch but tbh this is a good ODI team and they can comeback in next 2 ODIs
 
They were one wicket away from winning very comfortably today.

They were a garbage ODI team before.
 
England's bowling is the most overrated of all teams. They have assembled a very formidable batting line-up in ODIs but their bowling is a joke.
 
England during this period was a poor ODI team while India was excellent, so it is not a surprise.

Right now, England have the best batting lineup in ODIs, but their bowling is very weak. They are one or two strike bowlers away from becoming virtually unbeatable in ODIs, but finding such bowlers remains a challenge for them.

Still backing them to win either the CT or the next World Cup, since both are in England.
 
Bowling is garbage but with flat pitches all over they will do extremely well overall.In India , problem is Indian batting might always outbat them.
 
in all honesty england didnt give a crap about odis before this
 
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Cricfan4eva said:
That didnt stop them from having a decent ODI record in all other countries though.
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they got their behinds whooped regularly

even a pak side coming off a spot fixing ran them close 3-2 in Eng.

they had a great period from 2012 mid/end to CT 2013 though where they came upto #1 in the world
 
England were a strong ODI side up until 1992, getting into three of the five WC finals. Thereafter the other nations started to play more aggressive ODI cricket an England were left behind. Since 2015 they are picking more shot-players and their run rate has come back up. Unfortunately their array of medium pacers are just sitting up to get whacked on pitches like these.
 
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England post 2015 is a strong ODI unit, I would be surprised if we sweep them this time. First game was close, they were just 1 wicket away from a huge win.
 
Robert said:
England were a strong ODI side up until 1992, getting into three of the five WC finals. Thereafter the other nations started to play more aggressive ODI cricket an England were left behind. Since 2015 they are picking more shot-players and their run rate has come back up. Unfortunately their array of medium pacers are just sitting up to get whacked on pitches like these.
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THIS. England was a very poor ODI/T20 team from mid 90's till mid 2010's
 
Slog said:
they got their behinds whooped regularly

even a pak side coming off a spot fixing ran them close 3-2 in Eng.

they had a great period from 2012 mid/end to CT 2013 though where they came upto #1 in the world
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But that isn't what we're discussing here.

Their record in India is awful in comparison with their record everywhere else in the last 10 years...


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They've been a bad one day side for a long time. A big reason is that they haven't cared about ODI cricket and have never (until recently) given it enough respect. When they just turn up, they can't adapt to the conditions, which are hard at the best of times, and they play against a country who take ODI cricket very seriously.
 
During this period England were staggeringly mediocre. Only now have they really become one of the best one Day sides in the world. Their batting line-up is probably the best in the world for my money. But excluding Woakes their bowling is ordinary. India's bowling is probably worse, but when you have someone like Kohli in your team who might be the greatest chaser in the history of the format, playing infront of a buzzing home-crowd, there's not much you can do as an opposition but hope to score 400 the next time.

England simply got out-batted, which is why they should look to chase if they win the toss in this series.
 
England are an awesome ODI side. Its just that they are against an even better side under the given conditions.

This England side just needs a very good bowler to replace Ball. A genuine bowler for a No.11. That can increase their chances of winning.
 
Can't wait to see England win the Champions Trophy and/or the World Cup.

Will be Rooting for them since Pakistan does not have any chance.
 
Mamoon said:
Can't wait to see England win the Champions Trophy and/or the World Cup.

Will be Rooting for them since Pakistan does not have any chance.
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Yeah they will only beat India on a green mamba though. Otherwise India are unstoppable.
 
England are a much, much better ODI side now. It's just India is nigh invincible in India. Only SAF and Aus could beat them in a series. Give the current English ODI team is plays together for 3 years, they will be able to beat India in India as well (like SAF did couple of years back).

Overall I think England > India because India will probably play much worse in England. This England team has potential to beat any team in any condition.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
England are a much, much better ODI side now. It's just India is nigh invincible in India. Only SAF and Aus could beat them in a series. Give the current English ODI team is plays together for 3 years, they will be able to beat India in India as well (like SAF did couple of years back).

Overall I think England > India because India will probably play much worse in England. This England team has potential to beat any team in any condition.
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Lets wait for Champ trophy before making such claims without any basis.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
Overall I think England > India because India will probably play much worse in England. This England team has potential to beat any team in any condition.
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We beat England in our last ODI series there.
 
Varun said:
We beat England in our last ODI series there.
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I am talking about future, even 2 years ago England was worse than Bdesh in ODI. Look how they have transformed in 2 years, nearly beat India today. Most of English ODI batters are specialist in the format who can play well anywhere. I am not overhyping, they have the best stats since world cup
 
England batted extremely well in both the games....and could have won both.

In the two matches England scored 716 runs in 100 overs. That is an average of 7.16 runs by Indian bowlers and that too in home conditions. India have the batsmen who can put up such scores otherwise they would have been in trouble
 
Tekcirc said:
India Australia should exclude WC games.. enjoying against minnows adds to the wins.. But even their i think England lost to Ireland and Bangladesh :P
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This is England vs Aus/India away. Doesn't include neutral games.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
This is England vs Aus/India away. Doesn't include neutral games.
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That can't be correct because they haven't won 6 games here and 9 in Australia during the period in question.
 
Varun said:
That can't be correct because they haven't won 6 games here and 9 in Australia during the period in question.
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Ah my bad, I included neutral venue to show UAE results but then it counted Ind-Aus as neutral venue hence adding World cup fixtures. Their record in India/Aus gets even more awful lol.

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AZulfi said:
England batted extremely well in both the games....and could have won both.

In the two matches England scored 716 runs in 100 overs. That is an average of 7.16 runs by Indian bowlers and that too in home conditions. India have the batsmen who can put up such scores otherwise they would have been in trouble
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This home conditions and all doesn't matter much in ODI when we get served up pattas.

Both our spinners average the best in England out of all countries.

For pacers its even worse. They don't even get the little help our spinners get in some pitches.
 
Joseph Gomes said:
I am talking about future, even 2 years ago England was worse than Bdesh in ODI. Look how they have transformed in 2 years, nearly beat India today. Most of English ODI batters are specialist in the format who can play well anywhere. I am not overhyping, they have the best stats since world cup
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Bro, chill, I agree our batting needed to be fixed, but it's not that we don't have replacement, guy's like pant, Pandey, Sarfaraz, will soon be part of batting unit , guy's like rahul, needs time to sort out his game, I am sure he will improve soon, also u need bowlers as well.
 
Dhoni had a knack of winning titles which Kohli doesn't. He still hasn't won an IPL.

Think India is going to enter a barren spell in terms of winning trophies.
 
AZulfi said:
England batted extremely well in both the games....and could have won both.

In the two matches England scored 716 runs in 100 overs. That is an average of 7.16 runs by Indian bowlers and that too in home conditions. India have the batsmen who can put up such scores otherwise they would have been in trouble
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In the same 2 matches England bowlers conceded 731 runs with an avg of 7.31 runs. And they got one of the worst condition in second match.
 
AZulfi said:
England batted extremely well in both the games....and could have won both.

In the two matches England scored 716 runs in 100 overs. That is an average of 7.16 runs by Indian bowlers and that too in home conditions. India have the batsmen who can put up such scores otherwise they would have been in trouble
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Indian batsmen are putting up such big scores because the pitches are super flat. Same with English batsmen. The only reason why they are scoring 350 easily is because of the pitch and the bird nest sized grounds. Just swing the bat and hit a six.

Bowlers have no hope on Indian ODI pitches.
 
troodon said:
Indian batsmen are putting up such big scores because the pitches are super flat. Same with English batsmen. The only reason why they are scoring 350 easily is because of the pitch and the bird nest sized grounds. Just swing the bat and hit a six.

Bowlers have no hope on Indian ODI pitches.
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Exactly, just give them a slight turn without dew and then see.
 
India have a very good record in ODIs in England since their transformation so "in these conditions" is quite a pathetic disclaimer.
 
India always had the wood over Eng in limited overs cricket since 90's be it at home , away or neutral venues.
 
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