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India (282/3) beat South Africa (278/7) by 7 wickets in the 2nd ODI at Ranchi

Ishan and Samson should get consistent run in the team. They shouldn't be judged based on 2-3 matches when Pant is getting endless opportunities on the other hand. :inti
 
Very good knock by Ishan Kishen. Played out good length deliveries and destroyed anything fuller or shorter than that.
 
Amazing batting depth for India in ODIs.

Rohit
Gill
Kohli
Pant
KLR
Pandya
Jadeja

2nd team :-

Dhawan
Shaw
Kishan
Shreyas
Samson
SKY
Axar
 
This is South Africa main side. So the second XI is doing a good job even with washed up Dhawan
 
jnaveen1980 said:
This is South Africa main side. So the second XI is doing a good job even with washed up Dhawan
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Poor selection from them. They should have picked Jansen instead of Parnell. Third pacer needs to be quality especially if you are going with two spinners vs India.
 
54 needed in 12 overs. Is this game under control now?
 
Iyer is plumb, if only there is no inside edge.
 
Surprisingly, Iyer not out, missing leg stump.
 
India batted well. But dew buried SA and made sure they couldn't come back. Ball is not gripping for spinners.
 
Our ODI (even T20) middle order is looking at its absolute best in a long long time. It was the strong middle order of Yuvi, Kohli, Dhoni, Raina that won us the 2011 World Cup. And it was the trash middle over of Jadhav, DK, washed up Dhoni that cost us the 2019 one.

If we have Bumrah, Siraj, Axar fit and find one more good spinner, we are all set for the home world Cup.
 
Mesozoic said:
Our ODI (even T20) middle order is looking at its absolute best in a long long time. It was the strong middle order of Yuvi, Kohli, Dhoni, Raina that won us the 2011 World Cup. And it was the trash middle over of Jadhav, DK, washed up Dhoni that cost us the 2019 one.

If we have Bumrah, Siraj, Axar fit and find one more good spinner, we are all set for the home world Cup.
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Did you intentionally forget the names of Pant and Pandya? :91:

And Indian ODI and T20 team always look at its absolute best in bilaterals. There is no doubt about that. :inti
 
Too many dots played by Samson. Not good, taking it too casually i feel.
 
MP2011 said:
Too many dots played by Samson. Not good, taking it too casually i feel.
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This is what modern ODIs is about. Need to stay patient and not go into T20 mode. Enough players are there in a team who can accelerate if the run rate increases.
 
Ab Fan said:
It will be disheartening as a cricket fan if a bowler of KG Rabada pedigree doesn't get to participate in 2023 World Cup.

Absolute shame for the game of cricket.
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No it’s not shame for the game of cricket.
It’s shame on CSA and it’s totally on them.
 
Ab Fan said:
This is what modern ODIs is about. Need to stay patient and not go into T20 mode. Enough players are there in a team who can accelerate if the run rate increases.
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I don't know but our brand of ODI cricket has become extremely stale which shows in our results in last 2 ODI WCs.
 
Mesozoic said:
Our ODI (even T20) middle order is looking at its absolute best in a long long time. It was the strong middle order of Yuvi, Kohli, Dhoni, Raina that won us the 2011 World Cup. And it was the trash middle over of Jadhav, DK, washed up Dhoni that cost us the 2019 one.

If we have Bumrah, Siraj, Axar fit and find one more good spinner, we are all set for the home world Cup.
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2019 middle order was absolute crap. Washed up Dhoni was one of the worst ODI batsmen in the world at that point and we carried him. :facepalm:
 
Nikhil_cric said:
2019 middle order was absolute crap. Washed up Dhoni was one of the worst ODI batsmen in the world at that point and we carried him. :facepalm:
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We carried Dhoni for 4 years too many not just during that WC.
 
Our failure in last ODI WC is completely on Kohli. He was most powerful Indian cricketer ever during those times and had all the power but still chose his chums and never beens.
 
MP2011 said:
We carried Dhoni for 4 years too many not just during that WC.
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You are right that he was past his best but 2018 was a dreadful year for Dhoni in ODI cricket . And then they selected the squad with keeper backups just to accommodate Dhoni in that squad .

He was not international standard by then .
 
MP2011 said:
I don't know but our brand of ODI cricket has become extremely stale which shows in our results in last 2 ODI WCs.
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We went with a pathetic middle order in 2019 World Cup and it was only a matter of a day when it gets exposed. Top order flopped and the batting order was changed in some kind of nervousness, pathetic cricket that day from us.

Now, the middle order is stable and top order will be good if they select Gill who clearly looks in a better frame of mind than Dhawan.
 
Ab Fan said:
We went with a pathetic middle order in 2019 World Cup and it was only a matter of a day when it gets exposed. Top order flopped and the batting order was changed in some kind of nervousness, pathetic cricket that day from us.

Now, the middle order is stable and top order will be good if they select Gill who clearly looks in a better frame of mind than Dhawan.
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No way our backward selectors will pick Gill ahead of Dhawan.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
You are right that he was past his best but 2018 was a dreadful year for Dhoni in ODI cricket . And then they selected the squad with keeper backups just to accommodate Dhoni in that squad .

He was not international standard by then .
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The ODI series we played in England before ODI WC was so painful to watch.

Dhoni and Raina ensured we couldn't win that series despite being ahead 1-0 in 3 ODIs series.
 
Terrific knock from Iyer.

In ODIs, Iyer and Pant over Kishan, Samson and SKY.

In T20Is, SKY and Pant over Kishan, Samson and Iyer.

All hail Indian cricket!
 
MP2011 said:
No way our backward selectors will pick Gill ahead of Dhawan.
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That's the only challenge. I am sure Dhawan at some point will play a 100 ball 80 to retain his spot in the playing XI.
 
Stat padding Samson at his best again. Any pressure he chokes. Now since Iyer was batting well he strikes at less than 100 to remain not out and maintain his average.
Now some regional supporters will come out and say sanju was a star ....lol biggest domestic and IPL bully
 
Ab Fan said:
Terrific knock from Iyer.

In ODIs, Iyer and Pant over Kishan, Samson and SKY.

In T20Is, SKY and Pant over Kishan, Samson and Iyer.

All hail Indian cricket!
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Absolutely but unless KL keeps wickets there is no place for his slow batting in ODIs
 
Zerotohero said:
Stat padding Samson at his best again. Any pressure he chokes. Now since Iyer was batting well he strikes at less than 100 to remain not out and maintain his average.
Now some regional supporters will come out and say sanju was a star ....lol biggest domestic and IPL bully
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The only one who is choking is you at the moment. :91:

Don't worry Samson and Pant can feature in the same team in the future. Wipe those tears off now. :inti
 
NishanKonar said:
MS Dhoni should retired after 2015 WC

But just like Hafeez and Shoaib Malik he just carried on selfishly and cost us dearly !
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I cringe every time whenever CSK fans hold him in such high esteem.

Whatever good he did for Indian cricket in his first decade in international cricket, he spoiled it with all his might in his last 4 years in international cricket.
 
Whatever sanju is and will be an IPL bully until he plays a Gabba innings like pant. This over hyped guy can be discussed once he plays an impactful innings under pressur or atleast match winning
 
MP2011 said:
I cringe every time whenever CSK fans hold him in such high esteem.

Whatever good he did for Indian cricket in his first decade in international cricket, he spoiled it with all his might in his last 4 years in international cricket.
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Dhoni should have been sacked as test captain in 2012 after that 8-0 horror show in England and Australia. Managed to save huis job due to Srinivasan
 
Zerotohero said:
Whatever sanju is and will be an IPL bully until he plays a Gabba innings like pant. This over hyped guy can be discussed once he plays an impactful innings under pressur or atleast match winning
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Sanju Samson has got enough chances but never took it. He lacks big game mentality. Will perform once in a while and then go missing

He is nowhere close to Rishab Pant. Winning test match in Gabba is not a joke !
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
The only one who is choking is you at the moment. :91:

Don't worry Samson and Pant can feature in the same team in the future. Wipe those tears off now. :inti
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Pls don't mention sanju in same sentence as Pant. It is like comparing Bahubali and Brahmastra movies
 
NishanKonar said:
Sanju Samson has got enough chances but never took it. He lacks big game mentality. Will perform once in a while and then go missing

He is nowhere close to Rishab Pant. Winning test match in Gabba is not a joke !
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Agree. Pls tell that to Pant haters. They hate pant so that they can push their agenda. This Sanju guy has 3 times PR behind him and not not even one third of temperament of Pant
 
Zerotohero said:
Whatever sanju is and will be an IPL bully until he plays a Gabba innings like pant. This over hyped guy can be discussed once he plays an impactful innings under pressur or atleast match winning
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So Pant was selected in t20i due to Gabba innings.. great logic.. keep it on..
 
NishanKonar said:
Sanju Samson has got enough chances but never took it. He lacks big game mentality. Will perform once in a while and then go missing

He is nowhere close to Rishab Pant. Winning test match in Gabba is not a joke !
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What are these enough chances you are talking about lol? This is his second ODI in India. He has played a grand total of 8 ODIs so far and is averaging 65.6 with a strike rate of 110. Obviously his average will come down but he is showing promise in whateve little opportunities he is getting. It is pretty clear Samson, Iyer, Kishan, Gill and even Shaw have to keep justifying their places in the team in every match. :inti
 
Zerotohero said:
Agree. Pls tell that to Pant haters. They hate pant so that they can push their agenda. This Sanju guy has 3 times PR behind him and not not even one third of temperament of Pant
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I agree. Sanju has the most cringeworthy PR behind him. Iyer would have wished if he had similar PR, he would have been in first string XI instead of Dhawan.
 
No need to diss anyone. All keeper batsmen have their strengths and weaknesses. They can be match winners on their day in different formats.
 
Zerotohero said:
Agree. Pls tell that to Pant haters. They hate pant so that they can push their agenda. This Sanju guy has 3 times PR behind him and not not even one third of temperament of Pant
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I liked your comparison of Bahubali and Brahmastra. Stick to that, it's good. One had a story, good direction, hard work and performance while other one had too much vfx, chamak damak, third class story and no performance. Infact Alia Bhatt's role was quite similar to Pant's fans. I can imagine you chanting 'pant pant pant'. :91:

I am talking in context of LOIs here. :rabada2 :inti
 
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Shreyas Iyer's second ODI century and Ishan Kishan's flamboyant 93 saw India making mockery of a 279-run target set by South Africa in the second ODI at JSCA International Stadium, Complex in Ranchi on Sunday.

The Shikhar Dhawan-led side thus levelled the three-match series 1-1. India were 48 for 2 at one stage after losing both their openers Shikhar Dhawan and Shubman Gill, but a 161-run stand between Iyer and Kishan helped India reach home with 25 balls to spare.

Earlier, Aiden Markram (79) and Reeza Hendricks (74) had helped South Africa post 278 for 7 in 50 overs.

Mohammed Siraj impressed with figures of 3 for 38 in 10 overs, while Washington Sundar, Shahbaz Ahmed, Kuldeep Yadav and Shardul Thakur claimed a wicket apiece.

South Africa's stand-in captain Keshav Maharaj had opted to bat first against India in the game.
 
MP2011 said:
Too many dots played by Samson. Not good, taking it too casually i feel.
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Samson is not a match winner. Most of his scores end up short of winning the game because he starts to looks for his own score stats.
He is good but probably 20th or so good batter in terms of ranking in India. He has failed in chances he got. Iyer and kishan played to win today not just to stat pad like samson
 
jnaveen1980 said:
No need to diss anyone. All keeper batsmen have their strengths and weaknesses. They can be match winners on their day in different formats.
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Agree not dissing but the PR machines behind this guy keep on pushing him everywhere. Suddenly there are multiple sanju fan club's in social media sprouting up everywhere in the last six months .
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Good comparison. Bahubali was from south right? :91: :inti
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This is not at all a regional comparison but few south fans get behind this Sanju guy for pushing PR agendas.

And Answer is yes bahubali is far better than brahmastra just because of superior direction and hard working actors. Nothing to do with North and south
 
Zerotohero said:
This is not at all a regional comparison but few south fans get behind this Sanju guy for pushing PR agendas.

And Answer is yes bahubali is far better than brahmastra just because of superior direction and hard working actors. Nothing to do with North and south
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As usual, the guy again showed his lack of understanding by making it a regional comparison of North and South :91: :inti
 
Mp812 said:
Samson is not a match winner. Most of his scores end up short of winning the game because he starts to looks for his own score stats.
He is good but probably 20th or so good batter in terms of ranking in India. He has failed in chances he got. Iyer and kishan played to win today not just to stat pad like samson
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He is a slow starter and that will cost us if you play him in a team which has Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli and Rahul at top 4.

No way I would be picking Samson, he just doesn't get into this team ahead of Pant and Iyer in ODIs and Pant and SKY in T20Is.

His keeping is also well below par compared to Pant.
 
Pant has definitely proven himself in Tests. But he has a lot to prove in the T20s. Even in IPL, he has failed more often than not.
He and his fans have created this fake persona of him as some kind of ruthless hitter of the ball, who can come down the order and score a 12-ball 30. But most of the time his strike rate is between 120-140 which is very very poor.
 
Reeza Hendricks and Aiden Markram both struck half centuries but they were not enough as the Proteas slipped to a seven-wicket defeat to India in the second One-Day International (ODI) at the JSCA International Stadium Complex in Ranchi on Sunday.

Batting at three, Hendricks - in the team after captain Temba Bavuma had taken ill before the game - recorded an impressive 74 off 76 balls (9 fours, 1 six) with number four Markram top-scoring with 79 (89 balls, 7 fours, 1 six).

The pair shared in a crucial 129-run third-wicket stand that propelled the visitors to what looked a challenging 278 for seven.

But the hosts were rarely troubled in reply, and lead by an unbeaten Shreyas Iyer century, they cruised home with more than four overs to spare.

The result ensured the three-match series was now level at 1-1 and will go down to a decider in Delhi on Tuesday.

The South Africans will be unhappy with their showing, but they had to overcome the last-minute withdrawal of their leader Bavuma due to a mild infection. They were also without spinner Tabraiz Shamsi for the same reason whilst Lungi Ngidi was rested. Hendricks, Bjorn Fortuin and Anrich Nortje were the three players to come into the XI.

After winning the toss and batting, stand-in skipper Keshav Maharaj saw key opener Quinton de Kock fall early for five when he was bowled by the game’s outstanding bowler Mohammed Siraj (3/38). Janneman Malan again showed promise in a 31-ball 25 but fell leg before wicket to debutant Shahbaz Ahmed with the score on 40.

The Markram-Hendricks stand then calmed nerves with the latter going on to record his fourth ODI half century before being taken out by Siraj.

A stand of 46 followed between Markram and Heinrich Klaasen (30), who was next to go in the 38th over with the total on 215. At that stage 300 still looked on, but there from there the South Africans faded.

The former, after posting his fifth ODI 50, was out on the same score and despite the efforts of David Miller (35 not out), the tourists could only muster a target of 279.

India lost their captain Shikhar Dhawan (13) and Shubman Gill (28) to Wayne Parnell (1/44) and Kagiso Rabada (1/59) respectively by the ninth over, but from there Iyer (113 off 111 balls, 15 fours) and Ishan Kishan (93 off 84 balls, 4 fours, 7 sixes) dominated. They took their side from 48 for two to 209 for two, leaving the Indians in a comfortable position with more than 15 overs to play.

Fortuin (1/52) finally broke a partnership that had yielded 161, but Sanju Samson (30 not out) and Iyer ensured there were no further blips as the home side reached their target with 25 balls to spare.
 
Mp812 said:
Samson is not a match winner. Most of his scores end up short of winning the game because he starts to looks for his own score stats.
He is good but probably 20th or so good batter in terms of ranking in India. He has failed in chances he got. Iyer and kishan played to win today not just to stat pad like samson
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Can you name those 19 players who are better than Samson in white ball cricket from India?
 
Zerotohero said:
This is not at all a regional comparison but few south fans get behind this Sanju guy for pushing PR agendas.

And Answer is yes bahubali is far better than brahmastra just because of superior direction and hard working actors. Nothing to do with North and south
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Lol at the PR agendas. You brought Bahubali and Brahmastra into discussion not me. And it is pretty natural to call a guy from South the Bahubali. Not sure why you got hurt on your own analogy. :inti
 
India B is mad strong from what it looks like batsmen wise. They can easily replace Rohit and Kohli (current form) and not have to look back .
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
Must be pretty hard for you to see two talented wicketkeeper batsman giving tough competition to Pant in LOIs? :91: :inti
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Neither of the two is comparable to Pant. Thank God, you didn't mention tests there because those two are not fit enough to tie shoelace of Pant in the real format.

ODIs:-

1. Shreyas/Pant
2. Pant/Shreyas
3. Samson
4. SKY
5. Kishan( just watch him overseas)

T20Is :-

1. SKY
2. Pant
3. Samson
4. Kishan
5. Shreyas

:inti
 
Suleiman said:
India B is mad strong from what it looks like batsmen wise. They can easily replace Rohit and Kohli (current form) and not have to look back .
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Not just batting..

"India B" bowling is actually better than the main team mediocrities like Bhuvi, Chahal, Harshal. :91:
 
Mesozoic said:
Not just batting..

"India B" bowling is actually better than the main team mediocrities like Bhuvi, Chahal, Harshal. :91:
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Bhuvi and Harshal are not part of the ODI side. It's recently been something like Bunrah, Shami, Prasidh/Siraj, Chahal.
 
Mesozoic said:
Our ODI (even T20) middle order is looking at its absolute best in a long long time. It was the strong middle order of Yuvi, Kohli, Dhoni, Raina that won us the 2011 World Cup. And it was the trash middle over of Jadhav, DK, washed up Dhoni that cost us the 2019 one.

If we have Bumrah, Siraj, Axar fit and find one more good spinner, we are all set for the home world Cup.
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It will take something like 2014 FIFA WC out of the world event to deny the hosts 2023 ICC world cup..they have the best odi team and I can't see any team beating them in front of 100k crowd in any pressure game
 
pakpassfan said:
It will take something like 2014 FIFA WC out of the world event to deny the hosts 2023 ICC world cup..they have the best odi team and I can't see any team beating them in front of 100k crowd in any pressure game
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Indian selectors: just wait and watch son

Rohit: selectors, what you couldn’t accomplish, I will by choosing Dhawan and Bhuvi in XI

Bhuvi and Dhawan: and I will do the rest, son.

And you guys think Pakistani selectors are incompetent
 
Lot of dhoni haters here.....he played after 2015 because he was asked by team management and shastri to guide budding captain Kohli in ODIs .
As a keeper there was no better than him,only his strike rotation and big hitting failed him due to his age...even in semifinals he tried his best..
Besides there was immature pant and DK was also in team....so no point in hating dhoni blindly...

In this T20 generation,PPL has no patience and easily disrespect a true legend..
 
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