Ertugrul Series

[khan-92]

Anyone watched this series is very interesting.
It is being watched over 60 countries and has 2 series on Netflix.
Highly recommended be aware it is addictive.

 

[JaDed]

Hmm the empire and him would be considered monsters if it was today.

 

[Pakpak]

Hmm the empire and him would be considered monsters if it was today.

You can't really judge those empires by today's conditions. Otherwise people like Alexander, Caesar and numerous other great leaders would be considered mass killers. Killing, sacking, looting etc was way of war in the past and every empire did it, as it was considered practical to not be laden by thousands of refugees due to limited resources.

I am not really religious before you paint me as someone with a religious-driven agenda.

 

[JaDed]

You can't really judge those empires by today's conditions. Otherwise people like Alexander, Caesar and numerous other great leaders would be considered mass killers. Killing, sacking, looting etc was way of war in the past and every empire did it, as it was considered practical to not be laden by thousands of refugees due to limited resources.

I am not really religious before you paint me as someone with a religious-driven agenda.

I can actually judge them,as that is personal opinion,it might not matter considering everyone is awe of such empires and those rulers but just letting everyone know Israel and empires of previous years not so diff,only difference is our realization and evolution as human beings.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I can actually judge them,as that is personal opinion,it might not matter considering everyone is awe of such empires and those rulers but just letting everyone know Israel and empires of previous years not so diff,only difference is our realization and evolution as human beings.

This is all true, but we have had movies glorifying Alexander the Great, 300 etc, also Crusades, Ashoka, WWI/II heroes, Jewish struggle against evil Nazis and so many others. So this one is just adding to the collection to give another war movie from the eastern perspective.

 

[JaDed]

This is all true, but we have had movies glorifying Alexander the Great, 300 etc, also Crusades, Ashoka, WWI/II heroes, Jewish struggle against evil Nazis and so many others. So this one is just adding to the collection to give another war movie from the eastern perspective.

Which is true . As I said all those empires are held in high esteem by people, inspite of killing so many brutally.

 

[Asim_khan]

Which is true . As I said all those empires are held in high esteem by people, inspite of killing so many brutally.

Well it was a dog eat dog time, mongols on one side, crusaders on the other, who literally brought the war to their doorstep, the fact they stayed standing says they won.

The Indian army is cheered and has films made on it despite its brutality in Kashmir.

 

[JaDed]

Well it was a dog eat dog time, mongols on one side, crusaders on the other, who literally brought the war to their doorstep, the fact they stayed standing says they won.

The Indian army is cheered and has films made on it despite its brutality in Kashmir.

Ok so you are saying Empires were defending their borders, and Ottaman Empire never extended their empire?

Also outside India who holds Indian Army as holy, even within India other than Kashmiri Muslims many think Indian Army as an issue even there was a thread where a BJP minister felt that, the assumption here is your are not Turkish.

 

[DeadBall]

Don't agree with people claiming it "was a different time", sure we have evolved over time and even now people just do or are forced to do the right thing because of the constant supervision due to media and the internet but to say that it was a dog eat dog world back then doesn't justify the killing of innocents.

Also I don't doubt for a second if there is no more rule of law and if the majority can get away with it they will revert to those barbaric ways. Many with power are still doing it to this day but all floodgates will open if they are no longer accountable or under scrutiny.

 

[Asim_khan]

Ok so you are saying Empires were defending their borders, and Ottaman Empire never extended their empire?

Also outside India who holds Indian Army as holy, even within India other than Kashmiri Muslims many think Indian Army as an issue even there was a thread where a BJP minister felt that, the assumption here is your are not Turkish.

The series isn’t about the Ottoman empire, it’s about Ertugrul, the clue is in the title of the drama itself. The mongols and crusaders preceded any expansionist Turkish empire. Also there’s literally no recorded history of Ertugrul carrying out anything monstrous, unless you know better??

 

[JaDed]

The series isn’t about the Ottoman empire, it’s about Ertugrul, the clue is in the title of the drama itself. The mongols and crusaders preceded any expansionist Turkish empire. Also there’s literally no recorded history of Ertugrul carrying out anything monstrous, unless you know better??

There is no proper history about Osman either,so wait can you make anything up which is what I can do then?
Also you think,ertagul has nothing to do with Ottaman Empire?You think the show would even be watched if it was abt some random guy who managed to defend some random army.

 

[JaDed]

Why is it hard to accept all empires that are people are in awe of have been brutal could be of any religion, country or whatever.

Revering them is what I'm talking against.

 

[Asim_khan]

There is no proper history about Osman either,so wait can you make anything up?
Also you think. ertagul has nothing to do with Ottaman Empire?

It’s a work of fiction on an actual person, so yes, you can make anything up as long as it ties in with the timeline. Who knows maybe they might have him travel to India and use the Internet.

And Ertugrul has as much to do with the Ottoman Empire as Allama Iqbal has to do with Pakistan. There’s a reason it’s named after his son.

 

[TQ89]

Well it was a dog eat dog time, mongols on one side, crusaders on the other, who literally brought the war to their doorstep, the fact they stayed standing says they won.

The Indian army is cheered and has films made on it despite its brutality in Kashmir.

The ottoman empire never fought crusades, it was the seljuk turks and even they lost pretty badly in the wars due to zero support from neighboring arab empires.

The ottoman's always fought against the byzantine empire based in Constantinople (Present Day Istanbul) and other empires in the Anatolian region before expanding into Europe.

 

[JaDed]

It’s a work of fiction on an actual person, so yes, you can make anything up as long as it ties in with the timeline. Who knows maybe they might have him travel to India and use the Internet.

And Ertugrul has as much to do with the Ottoman Empire as Allama Iqbal has to do with Pakistan. There’s a reason it’s named after his son.

No Iqbal was an intellectual,there is a difference it's not even close.

Agree on the fiction part, and it's propaganda this series? And before you say things yes Bollywood has lot of propaganda and BJP too..incase you were gonna give those examples I'm laying it out.

 

[TQ89]

And dog eat dog doesn't make their brutalities(which are many) ok. I don't care if it is an eastern empire or western empire, their wrongs are wrongs & don't deserve any justification.

 

[Asim_khan]

The ottoman empire never fought crusades, it was the seljuk turks and even they lost pretty badly in the wars due to zero support from neighboring arab empires.

The ottoman's always fought against the byzantine empire based in Constantinople (Present Day Istanbul) and other empires in the Anatolian region before expanding into Europe.

Ertugrul was a Bey of Principality for the Seljuk empire. He fought against remnants of the crusader empires, as well as the Byzantine empire and the Mongols

 

[Asim_khan]

And dog eat dog doesn't make their brutalities(which are many) ok. I don't care if it is an eastern empire or western empire, their wrongs are wrongs & don't deserve any justification.

Can you share some of these brutalities Ertugrul caused since you have so many?

 

[Asim_khan]

No Iqbal was an intellectual,there is a difference it's not even close.

Agree on the fiction part, and it's propaganda this series? And before you say things yes Bollywood has lot of propaganda and BJP too..incase you were gonna give those examples I'm laying it out.

Abdul Mutallib to the first Islamic Medina State then?

And it’s an action series made by the state broadcaster, which airs at peak time, made for a Turkish audience, of course they’re gonna make him Uber heroic

 

[TQ89]

Can you share some of these brutalities Ertugrul caused since you have so many?

I don't care about ertugrul one bit. His history isn't even clear & his story is fabricated a lot.

As for ottomans, well they were aggressors for nearly 500 years in that region. Look up their brutalities in asia minor & europe & you will get an idea. I always call a spade a spade. They don't get free pass from me just because they are muslims

 

[JaDed]

Abdul Mutallib to the first Islamic Medina State then?

And it’s an action series made by the state broadcaster, which airs at peak time, made for a Turkish audience, of course they’re gonna make him Uber heroic

Yes that's what I was highlighting they are revered in Turkey understanble but surely laid foundation for the brutal Ottaman empire which is revered .so not sure why you quoted me, when you agree it's fiction.

 

[Asim_khan]

I don't care about ertugrul one bit. His history isn't even clear & his story is fabricated a lot.

As for ottomans, well they were aggressors for nearly 500 years in that region. Look up their brutalities in asia minor & europe & you will get an idea. I always call a spade a spade. They don't get free pass from me just because they are muslims

You cared enough about him to comment on a thread about a tv show bearing his name, why else would you even view it?. Surely if you felt so strongly about the crimes of the Ottoman Empire you’d start a new thread, since commenting upon it is about as relevant to a topic on a ‘fabricated’ action filled historical tv show as discussing the price of tea is in China.

 

[Asim_khan]

Yes that's what I was highlighting they are revered in Turkey understanble but surely laid foundation for the brutal Ottaman empire which is revered .so not sure why you quoted me, when you agree it's fiction.

I just don’t know why you would even mention the Ottoman Empire when discussing such an action historical epic series which concentrates on one individual, I bet you’re fun at parties. Do you bring up the Vietnam war atrocities whilst watching Rambo?

 

[TQ89]

You cared enough about him to comment on a thread about a tv show bearing his name, why else would you even view it?. Surely if you felt so strongly about the crimes of the Ottoman Empire you’d start a new thread, since commenting upon it is about as relevant to a topic on a ‘fabricated’ action filled historical tv show as discussing the price of tea is in China.

It is relevant as you are the one who was going gaga on the ottomans as if they were the defenders of the muslim world. I just cleared it up for you. Btw Nice try diverting the thread.

 

[Asim_khan]

It is relevant as you are the one who was going gaga on the ottomans as if they were the defenders of the muslim world. I just cleared it up for you. Btw Nice try diverting the thread.

Yes, me diverting the thread. As opposed to the guy discussing Ottoman atrocities in a thread on a historical action series which doesn’t even feature a baby Osman.

And can you point to where I was going gaga over the Ottomans? My use of ‘Dog eat dog’ seems to have offended you, yet it’s said in a post where I also mention Crusaders, which you rightly pointed out earlier on didn’t fight the Ottomons, so how could I be going ‘gaga’ over them? Simple logic. You’ve gotta love it.

 

[JaDed]

I just don’t know why you would even mention the Ottoman Empire when discussing such an action historical epic series which concentrates on one individual, I bet you’re fun at parties. Do you bring up the Vietnam war atrocities whilst watching Rambo?

No one thinks Rambo is real lol, Ertagul is considered almost like a founder, is Rambo considered a founder for American Empire?

 

[Asim_khan]

Anyone watched this series is very interesting.
It is being watched over 60 countries and has 2 series on Netflix.
Highly recommended be aware it is addictive.

Yes watched it, love it. Incredible show, great acting, villains in particular stand out, the guy who plays Kurdoglu in the first series and Noyan in the second series. I’ve watched series 3 and I’m part way through season 4 and the quality doesn’t drop. The writing and plotting is incredible, I’m literally on the edge of my seat through out. Can see why it’s been such a huge hit world wide.

 

[khan-92]

Yes watched it, love it. Incredible show, great acting, villains in particular stand out, the guy who plays Kurdoglu in the first series and Noyan in the second series. I’ve watched series 3 and I’m part way through season 4 and the quality doesn’t drop. The writing and plotting is incredible, I’m literally on the edge of my seat through out. Can see why it’s been such a huge hit world wide.

Yes agree I am on season 4 caught up
One of the best series I have seen, anyone I recommend to watch feel the same they get hooked on it.

 

[s28]

I don't care about ertugrul one bit. His history isn't even clear & his story is fabricated a lot.

As for ottomans, well they were aggressors for nearly 500 years in that region. Look up their brutalities in asia minor & europe & you will get an idea. I always call a spade a spade. They don't get free pass from me just because they are muslims

He says on a Thread titled 'Ertugrul'

Love how some people are so lacking in self awareness

 

[TQ89]

He says on a Thread titled 'Ertugrul'

Love how some people are so lacking in self awareness

Oh really. Don't you have to find some more tweets to post what Israel are doing currently?

 

[s28]

Where can one watch this from Series 1 in the UK ?

 

[khan-92]

Where can one watch this from Series 1 in the UK ?

You can watch on Netflix season 1-2 rest I watched on Facebook.

 

[hussain.r97]

You can't really judge those empires by today's conditions. Otherwise people like Alexander, Caesar and numerous other great leaders would be considered mass killers. Killing, sacking, looting etc was way of war in the past and every empire did it, as it was considered practical to not be laden by thousands of refugees due to limited resources.

I am not really religious before you paint me as someone with a religious-driven agenda.

I personally do not see the brutalities of any empire from the last one thousand years to be acceptable, people were civilised enough by 1000 AD to know right from wrong. Alexander, Caesar, etc lived in a time where people lacked a solid set of morals, and thus had no reason to believe that anything they are doing is wrong. The Ottoman Empire on the other hand were officially Islamic, and even held the title caliphate. Despite having a set of morals to follow in the shape of Islam, they went on to use Islam for legitimacy, bend the rules, and commit the same brutalities as people committed in pagan times.

Also, many of the brutalities carried out by the Ottoman Empire happened in the last couple of centuries. Between 1913 and 1923, the Ottomans committed a genocide of Christians, including around 1.5 million Armenians, 200,000 Assyrians, and 500,000 Greeks, the effects of which are still lasting today. I see almost no justification. The Ottomans, and Turks in general, have overall done very little good for this world. Their empire was regressive, and they are almost solely responsible for the decline of Middle Eastern Civilisation, and Europe eventually overtaking in fields of education, philosophy, culture, and science.

 

[Napa]

This is all true, but we have had movies glorifying Alexander the Great, 300 etc, also Crusades, Ashoka, WWI/II heroes, Jewish struggle against evil Nazis and so many others. So this one is just adding to the collection to give another war movie from the eastern perspective.

The reason Indians call him "Ashoka the Great" is not due to his conquests, but because he recoiled from the brutality of war, became a Buddhist, and sent missionaries to carry the Buddha's message of peace to other countries.

 

[mani1]

I personally do not see the brutalities of any empire from the last one thousand years to be acceptable, people were civilised enough by 1000 AD to know right from wrong. Alexander, Caesar, etc lived in a time where people lacked a solid set of morals, and thus had no reason to believe that anything they are doing is wrong. The Ottoman Empire on the other hand were officially Islamic, and even held the title caliphate. Despite having a set of morals to follow in the shape of Islam, they went on to use Islam for legitimacy, bend the rules, and commit the same brutalities as people committed in pagan times.

Also, many of the brutalities carried out by the Ottoman Empire happened in the last couple of centuries. Between 1913 and 1923, the Ottomans committed a genocide of Christians, including around 1.5 million Armenians, 200,000 Assyrians, and 500,000 Greeks, the effects of which are still lasting today. I see almost no justification. The Ottomans, and Turks in general, have overall done very little good for this world. Their empire was regressive, and they are almost solely responsible for the decline of Middle Eastern Civilisation, and Europe eventually overtaking in fields of education, philosophy, culture, and science.

It wasn't the Ottoman's that did those things it was the Young Turks.

 

[DeadBall]

Well at least they gave us good furniture.

 

[Napa]

It wasn't the Ottoman's that did those things it was the Young Turks.

Actually the Young Turks carried out their massacres while the Ottoman Empire still existed. The Armenian genocide began around 1915, and the Ottoman Empire finally expired around 1922/23.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

its a fantastic show and im fully inmersed in it. I love some of the peculiarities of Turkish customs and the way the show creators have integrated Ibn Arabi into the story.

Some of the scenes where they talk about Ertugruls progeny being the saviours of the Muslim Ummah are a bit cheesy but overall its a great show. Every episode ends in a cliff hanger.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

Also lol at some of the posts in this thread. Many posters here commenting about not glamourising an empire that existed 100s of years ago but will happily sit through actual tragedies taking place infront of them today. See by the guy casually dismissing someone highlighting news about Israeli aggression while his backside is burning of a semi historical tv show.

The level of intelligence displayed by posts like that is laughable.

 

[hussain.r97]

It wasn't the Ottoman's that did those things it was the Young Turks.

It was still under the banner of the Ottoman Empire.

 

[idrizzy]

Looking to watch this show soon, really addicting and being labelled as the "Turkish GoT". Few of my friends have started watching it and are binging it whenever they can.

 

[s28]

Looks awesome

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[re82h]

started watching this over the Christmas holidays. Watching season 2 at the moment.
Great series. Excellent writing and acting.
Keeps you on the edge. As mentioned above it is addictive.

 

[topspin]

I personally do not see the brutalities of any empire from the last one thousand years to be acceptable, people were civilised enough by 1000 AD to know right from wrong. Alexander, Caesar, etc lived in a time where people lacked a solid set of morals, and thus had no reason to believe that anything they are doing is wrong. The Ottoman Empire on the other hand were officially Islamic, and even held the title caliphate. Despite having a set of morals to follow in the shape of Islam, they went on to use Islam for legitimacy, bend the rules, and commit the same brutalities as people committed in pagan times.

Also, many of the brutalities carried out by the Ottoman Empire happened in the last couple of centuries. Between 1913 and 1923, the Ottomans committed a genocide of Christians, including around 1.5 million Armenians, 200,000 Assyrians, and 500,000 Greeks, the effects of which are still lasting today. I see almost no justification. The Ottomans, and Turks in general, have overall done very little good for this world. Their empire was regressive, and they are almost solely responsible for the decline of Middle Eastern Civilisation, and Europe eventually overtaking in fields of education, philosophy, culture, and science.

So you prefer Wahabi Saudis?

 

[Greenstorm]

Just finished season 1. Brilliant series and a much needed one.

 

[re82h]

Just finished season 1. Brilliant series and a much needed one.

agree. only gets better with season 2.

 

[m.shah]

Just finished season 1. Brilliant series and a much needed one.

Is it available in some other language or with english subtitles?

 

[re82h]

Is it available in some other language or with english subtitles?

it has english subtitles on netflix.

PTV has dubbed it in urdu as well you can find it on their YouTube channel.

Best to watch it with subtitles though as the expressions are better with original dubbing.

 

[IAJ]

Just finished season 1. Brilliant series and a much needed one.

Bro. This is the only series I have watched fully on TV. I have watched all the 5 season and watching 6 now.

It really boost the imaan.

 

[Greenstorm]

Bro. This is the only series I have watched fully on TV. I have watched all the 5 season and watching 6 now.

It really boost the imaan.

Its average in some aspects for instance the long useless scenes of typical saas bahu jhagre which are common in our dramas. Sometimes, one has to skip almost half episode to avoid such trash. But it is the truthful character of Ertugrul which keeps you glued along with the compelling message which is very relatable for modern Muslims.

Very rarely do we see such perfect heroes in movies/seasons. Protagonists of most western movies/seasons usually have lot of flaws in their character. They are usually disgruntled, motivated by revenge or greed but that is not the case in this series which makes for an interesting viewing.

 

[Pakistanian]

So you prefer Wahabi Saudis?

You do realize that he's from a Shia background? The Persians rivaled the Ottomans.

 

[IAJ]

Its average in some aspects for instance the long useless scenes of typical saas bahu jhagre which are common in our dramas. Sometimes, one has to skip almost half episode to avoid such trash. But it is the truthful character of Ertugrul which keeps you glued along with the compelling message which is very relatable for modern Muslims.

Very rarely do we see such perfect heroes in movies/seasons. Protagonists of most western movies/seasons usually have lot of flaws in their character. They are usually disgruntled, motivated by revenge or greed but that is not the case in this series which makes for an interesting viewing.

Season 1 had some saas bahu stuff but you will see less of that in later seasons. But remember every episode is plus minus 2 hrs so they have to have that kind of stuff as well. What facinated me most was that they fought only for Allah SWT and not for own gains and pockets and the love they had for the beloved Prophet (saw) was amazing.

 

[topspin]

You do realize that he's from a Shia background? The Persians rivaled the Ottomans.

I didn't know that. Thanks for filling me in.

I will take the Ottomans over the present day Saudi Wahabis any day of the week.

 

[shaz619]

I can actually judge them,as that is personal opinion,it might not matter considering everyone is awe of such empires and those rulers but just letting everyone know Israel and empires of previous years not so diff,only difference is our realization and evolution as human beings.

Salahudeen Ayubi is probably among a few leaders from those days where the chivalry was unique in barbaric times, otherwise generally yeah the nature of an empire and the individuals are overly glorified.

 

[DeadBall]

Couldn't get past the first episode, too many flashbacks and it felt like they filled the other half with slow motion and close ups.

 

[re82h]

Couldn't get past the first episode, too many flashbacks and it felt like they filled the other half with slow motion and close ups.

starts off slow but it does pick up and get better

 

[Forum363]

Finished all five seasons a while ago.

Just started the sequel series Kurulus: Osman.

Don’t know what it is, keeps me coming back for more.

 

[Greenstorm]

Couldn't get past the first episode, too many flashbacks and it felt like they filled the other half with slow motion and close ups.

Its not for you.

 

[iRfaN_LA]

Superb series. Love the character of the people in the show, acting is top notch, action, emotions, amazing show. I am on Season 2 so far, its only getting better.

 

[Zaz]

Season 1 had some saas bahu stuff but you will see less of that in later seasons. But remember every episode is plus minus 2 hrs so they have to have that kind of stuff as well. What facinated me most was that they fought only for Allah SWT and not for own gains and pockets and the love they had for the beloved Prophet (saw) was amazing.

Its a drama based on several hundred years old history Its not necessarily all true.

The producers seem have taken a lot of creative liberties so just dont take everything shown as fact and enjoy it for what it is a tv series