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NEW DELHI: A day after he was criticised for saying that Azad Kashmir would remain with Pakistan and Jammu and Kashmir with India, National Conference chief Farooq Abdullah said his remarks were not new.

He actually went a step further and declared that Indian forces could not “defend against terrorists and militants”.

He had said on Friday that “Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK)” would remain with Pakistan and that war was not an option.

On Saturday, he apparently attempted to clarify his statement but ended up repeating what he had said earlier. “PoK will be a part of Pakistan, J&K will be a part of India. It is not something new that I have said,” the former J&K chief minister said.

“All of India’s forces can’t defend against terrorists and militants,” he was further quoted as saying by ANI news agency.

Abdullah was assailed for his remarks, even as his son and former J&K chief minister Omar defended him by saying that this was the long-standing belief of his father.

Farooq Abdullah suggested that interaction between people on the two sides of the divide should be enhanced, instead of focusing on territorial disputes.

“People-to-people contact is essential. That is how fear is fought,” he said.

The disputed Himalayan region is one of the world’s most heavily militarised zones. Clashes and ceasefire violations along the Line of Control also pose a constant risk of escalation of tensions between the two countries.



http://www.dawn.com/news/1223061/even-all-indian-troops-cant-tackle-militants-says-farooq-abdullah
 
https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/india-news-nc-workers-from-kashmir-to-kargil-raise-hands-in-dua-for-farooq-abdullas-recovery/379453

National Conference workers on Tuesday held prayer meetings for the speedy recovery and wellbeing of the party president Dr Farooq Abdullah at their respective party headquarters across Jammu and Kashmir.

Dr Farooq was shifted to the Sheri Kashmir Institute of Medical Sciences Srinagar on Saturday four days after he tested positive for Covid-19 and four weeks after he had received the first Covid-19 jab.

A major prayer meeting was held here at the NC headquarters at Nawa-e-Subha Srinagar where the party senior leaders prayed for the speedy recovery of Dr Abdullah. The NC leaders while offering prayers said only Dr Farooq Abdullah can pull out Jammu and Kashmir from the current political crises. The leaders said Dr Abdullah has always worked for communal brotherhood in Jammu and Kashmir and political empowerment of the people of Jammu and Kashmir. “We all pray Dr Sahab recovers soon. At the same time we ask people to maintain social distancing, use masks and also go for vaccination if eligible,” former MLA and NC leader from Ganderbal, Sheikh Ishfaq Jabbar, said during a prayer meeting in the district.

The Kargil unit of the party also prayed for early recovery of Dr Farooq Abdullah. They termed Dr Abdullah as a true voice of the people of Jammu, Kashmir, and Ladakh. At the Lolab constituency of north Kashmir, district president of the party Qaisaer Lone organized special prayers for the party president.

On Sunday, J&K governor Manoj Sinha visited the SKIMS Soura and met former Chief Minister Omar Abdullah to enquire about the health of his father.

“In Srinagar, I met Omar Abdullah at SKIMS Hospital, Soura. Enquired about Farooq Sahab’s health and instructed the doctors to provide best treatment. I pray for his long and healthy life,” Sinha tweeted.

Omar responded to thank the lieutenant governor for the visit.

“Thank you for your visit to enquire after my father @manojsinha_ ji. We are grateful for the offer to shift my father, the doctors & other medical staff at SKIMS Srinagar are amongst the best anywhere & my father is getting the best possible care,” Omar tweeted.

The government says there has been a surge in Covid-19 infections and 442 new cases, 162 from Jammu and 280 from Kashmir, were reported on Monday.
 
That is exactly what Mr.Abdullah wants. A never ending militancy so that people like him can stay relevant.
 
Farooq Ghulamzyada Abdullah and his munnay, Omar Ghulami Abdullah. Nothing to do with these sorts
 
India's best hope of defending against terrorism is to isolate Kashmir, and to do that they will need Pakistan to remain out of it. Pakistan has restricted itself to moral support only for the Kashmiri struggle, but how long that will continue if Indians keep up the anti-Pak propaganda is unclear.

There is always going to be some form of resistance against Indian occupation of Kashmir in IoK, but India could probably pacify them with some greater autonomy while at the same time putting sweeteners out to Pakistan.

He's not said a lot wrong here.
 
National armies are only trained to fight and win against fellow armies. Not lone rangers with bombs strapped to their waist, as even the most advanced military of all time - the USA - has found out since WW2 (Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc.). The only war which they have 'won' is the Gulf War vs a bonafide military led by a Saddam they themselves armed to the teeth.
 
Don't know what this old man is on about when History has proved that war is an option. I do agree though that the Indian military simply can not fight so many militants or freedom fighters. It's not plausible. These militants are well armed and trained as well.
 
National armies are only trained to fight and win against fellow armies. Not lone rangers with bombs strapped to their waist, as even the most advanced military of all time - the USA - has found out since WW2 (Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc.). The only war which they have 'won' is the Gulf War vs a bonafide military led by a Saddam they themselves armed to the teeth.

Pak army won that kind of war so not exactly an unwinnable situation
 
National armies are only trained to fight and win against fellow armies. Not lone rangers with bombs strapped to their waist, as even the most advanced military of all time - the USA - has found out since WW2 (Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan etc.). The only war which they have 'won' is the Gulf War vs a bonafide military led by a Saddam they themselves armed to the teeth.

Plenty have been won.

This cant be won , same reason as Afghanistan occupation, the people dont want Indians in their land. If Indians could understand this simple reason, they might be invited onto mastermind. Of course Indian army raping children, torturing kids and murdering people isnt helping.
 
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/omar-abdullah-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-isolating-himself-at-home/articleshow/81988846.cms?from=mdr

National Conference leader and former Jammu and Kashmir chief minister Omar Abdullah Friday said he has tested positive for COVID-19.

"For a year I did my best to dodge this damn virus but it's finally caught up with me. I tested positive for #COVID?19 this afternoon. I'm completely asymptotic. Based on medical advice I'm self-isolating at home & monitoring my parameters like oxygen saturation levels etc," he said in a tweet.

His father Farooq Abdullah had tested positive for coronavirus last week and is now recuperating from the infection.

"I am very grateful to everyone reaching out to me here on Twitter to wish me well. I apologise for not replying individually. For the next few days I'm focusing on beating this virus & will be back here after the battle is won," Omar Abdullah added in his tweet.
 
Al Qaeda-Inspired Group 'Wiped Out', 7 Militants Including its Chief Killed in Kashmir

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...ding-its-chief-killed-in-kashmir-3622901.html

It seems like there are many Kashmiris willing to share information about the movement of militants, Random militiants attacks won't achieve anything, Kashmiris should prepare for a mass uprising, attack few military camps take security personnel as hostages and negotiate with government.
 
Al Qaeda-Inspired Group 'Wiped Out', 7 Militants Including its Chief Killed in Kashmir

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...ding-its-chief-killed-in-kashmir-3622901.html

It seems like there are many Kashmiris willing to share information about the movement of militants, Random militiants attacks won't achieve anything, Kashmiris should prepare for a mass uprising, attack few military camps take security personnel as hostages and negotiate with government.

Kashmiris aren't a martial people. They were out-baniyah'ed by the original and true baniyahs. They still have Rajouri and Mehndar though which is our part speaking our lingo.
 
Al Qaeda-Inspired Group 'Wiped Out', 7 Militants Including its Chief Killed in Kashmir

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...ding-its-chief-killed-in-kashmir-3622901.html

It seems like there are many Kashmiris willing to share information about the movement of militants, Random militiants attacks won't achieve anything, Kashmiris should prepare for a mass uprising, attack few military camps take security personnel as hostages and negotiate with government.

They need to actually educate themselves, and aspire to become doctors/lawyers/engineers/teachers. But please carry on.
 
Kashmiris aren't a martial people. They were out-baniyah'ed by the original and true baniyahs. They still have Rajouri and Mehndar though which is our part speaking our lingo.
This is the perfect time to bring attention of world towards kashmir and put India under pressure, for that Kashmiris need to act otherwise they will have to wait till india disintegrates, statements from opportunistic politicians of both sides won't do anything
 
They need to actually educate themselves, and aspire to become doctors/lawyers/engineers/teachers. But please carry on.
There are plenty of well educated kashmiris and many of them are working in different parts of country just like how indians were working under british rule.
 
There are plenty of well educated kashmiris and many of them are working in different parts of country just like how indians were working under british rule.

That's a compliment for indians that you compared them with the british rule.
 
There are plenty of well educated kashmiris and many of them are working in different parts of country just like how indians were working under british rule.

There are plenty of any community doing different legitimate things, so stop calling for jihad that's all.
 
Four militants killed in encounters in Jammu and Kashmir

Four militants, including those responsible for the killing of an Army man in Anantnag district, were killed in two overnight encounters with security forces in Jammu and Kashmir on April 11, police said.

The total number of militants killed in the twin encounters — which began on April 10 — in Shopian and Anantnag districts — has risen to five as an unidentified militant was killed late on April 10.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...and-kashmirs-shopian/article34294038.ece/amp/

The police official said that Faisal Gulzar, the 14-year-old newly recruited militant, trapped in the area and police were persuading him to surrender.

Gulzar, according to the official, joined militancy barely 72 hours ago.

The official said that the family of the boy was brought to the encounter site to appeal him to surrender.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gr...ant-killed-in-ongoing-shopian-gunfight-2/?amp
 
Four militants killed in encounters in Jammu and Kashmir

Four militants, including those responsible for the killing of an Army man in Anantnag district, were killed in two overnight encounters with security forces in Jammu and Kashmir on April 11, police said.

The total number of militants killed in the twin encounters — which began on April 10 — in Shopian and Anantnag districts — has risen to five as an unidentified militant was killed late on April 10.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...and-kashmirs-shopian/article34294038.ece/amp/

The police official said that Faisal Gulzar, the 14-year-old newly recruited militant, trapped in the area and police were persuading him to surrender.

Gulzar, according to the official, joined militancy barely 72 hours ago.

The official said that the family of the boy was brought to the encounter site to appeal him to surrender.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.gr...ant-killed-in-ongoing-shopian-gunfight-2/?amp

Why would anyone recruit a 14 yr old (whatever may be their fight)?
 
Why would anyone recruit a 14 yr old (whatever may be their fight)?
Many indian revolutionaries who sacrificed their lives to overthrow british joined different movements during their teens.
 
OK. I read you. but not comaprable.

14 yrs old is too young to be handed a gun.
 
Why would anyone recruit a 14 yr old (whatever may be their fight)?

Most of the time these encounters are fake and used to cover up extra judicial killings and other atrocities. Just imagine what they are doing to the men women and children as their is a complete media blackout. The rapes and murders. they have a history of doing this sort of stuff so I dread to think.

But as with Palestine there is a inevitability to these conflicts. Just like there was an inevitability to the crusade era problems. Its not that different. history has a way of repeating itself..
 
Al Qaeda-Inspired Group 'Wiped Out', 7 Militants Including its Chief Killed in Kashmir

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...ding-its-chief-killed-in-kashmir-3622901.html

It seems like there are many Kashmiris willing to share information about the movement of militants, Random militiants attacks won't achieve anything, Kashmiris should prepare for a mass uprising, attack few military camps take security personnel as hostages and negotiate with government.

There are a few "inspired" terrorists but thats already been dealt with and will continue. Shah and Modi have taken control of Kashmir and won't let go. The uprising time was when article 370 was abrogated. Nothing happened then. It almost makes me think that these are normal, decent people who just want to earn a good living and want a good future for their kids. If that's the case, India has nothing to worry. The odd balls will be destroyed. Modi and India should fulfill their promise of prosperity to the Kashmiris. They owe them for being calm and cooperative after the article 370 abrogation.
 
Most of the time these encounters are fake and used to cover up extra judicial killings and other atrocities. Just imagine what they are doing to the men women and children as their is a complete media blackout. The rapes and murders. they have a history of doing this sort of stuff so I dread to think.

But as with Palestine there is a inevitability to these conflicts. Just like there was an inevitability to the crusade era problems. Its not that different. history has a way of repeating itself..

There's a difference. 8 million Israeli soldiers don't live in Palestine. If at all, Palestine serves as a good example to teach Kashmiris how it's a worthless cause to fight and ruin their future.
 
There are a few "inspired" terrorists but thats already been dealt with and will continue. Shah and Modi have taken control of Kashmir and won't let go. The uprising time was when article 370 was abrogated. Nothing happened then. It almost makes me think that these are normal, decent people who just want to earn a good living and want a good future for their kids. If that's the case, India has nothing to worry. The odd balls will be destroyed. Modi and India should fulfill their promise of prosperity to the Kashmiris. They owe them for being calm and cooperative after the article 370 abrogation.

Already tried by many to suppress people doesn't last long Serbia tried on Bosnia Yugoslavia broke into pieces , USSR broke into pieces you can't supress us. Accept reality and we will have good friendly relations with india.
 
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Already tried by many to suppress people doesn't last long Serbia tried on Bosnia Yugoslavia broke into pieces , USSR broke into pieces you can't supress us. Accept reality and we will have good friendly relations with india.
After suffering so much under Indian administration you're still interested in having friendly relations with India ?
 
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