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Even Carlos Brathwaite is a better cricketer than Shahid Afridi

what is the criteria to define legend. I chose my own legends on my terms. all people have different opinions no one opinion is better then other. I know what he is being a massive fan I presume I know him better then they people who don't support him. no need to tell me I have seen with my own eyes.

there is no point in say if and but because if he was born in aus maybe lost of things could have been different but lots of team would love to have a hard hitting leg spin all-rounder in there team and I don't see many others.

how has afridi fooled anyone he is what he is never tried to be any different did the same things all his life how is that falling for his tricks if I like blind slogging then I like blind slogging that's my choice.

why should he have retired no one is forced to pick him , make him captain. the only people who should want him to retire is his biggest fans because they want him to leave on a high give him one last cheer. they people that don't like him why does it bother you. when he is not good enough don't pick him.

I will say it again sport is played for fans what every makes the fans happy should be prioty number 1. without fans you would have no cricket
so even if you don't appreciate afridis cricket. at least think if it wasn't for all his fans around the world who would bother to watch your beloved team for the past 10 years. a team with fixers, no home cirkcet, drug abusers, no star players.

you might call him the cancer of the team but as far as I can see the team would be dead with out him.

This was so uncoordinated...... :facepalm: I couldn't for one second figure out the premise of what exactly were you trying to say. However, I am assuming that you're his fan and are sad that everyone is taking your hero to task.

Put it simply, Afridi has every right to have simplistic fans that galore on his 'eyes closed' slogging and trust me when I say this; I won't ever judge you for that but doing it at the expense of Pakistan's national cricket team's success is something an intellectual patriot would never appreciate.

There is a website called cricinfo; quite helpful I might add, that has a built in statistical query based search engine. Pull out Afridi's record since his debut and run through his numbers. What you'll find is that the hero you all consider as the next best thing since sliced bread is as mediocre as they come and compared to top 50 batsmen and bowlers of the last 15 years he is right at the bottom of the food chain - NOT MY OPINION but HARD FACT

He has the worst captaincy record for anyone who's captained Pakistan; coupled this with his brainless slogging and mediocrish career numbers are something that in the competitive international cricket is practically shooting yourself in the foot.

He might have millions of fans but those fans, if you ask me, have as much of an understanding of cricket as that of a shinning goldfish. The biggest winners for the entirety of Afridi's career are his PR team - Making one of the most medicore cricketer the face of a test playing nation is no easy task - They have done an outright fantastic job and should be hired by PCB instead to market domestic competitions and other FC related stuff.
 
I was actually replaying to a post and answering the issues raised in that post. and you start your post by trying to insult my intelligence just because it will prove your point that afridi fans don't know ****.

why do I need cric info I know what afridi is ( I am his fan I watch all is games). I have seen it with my eyes player of the tournament at the world cup and runner up in the next one. where he was mom in the final. this is also a fact

define success, and why is the success of a nation dependent on afridi or his millions of fans fault. if you want to be patriotic then afridi mighty not bring home victories but he brings a lot of revenue for the country his charity does a lot of work for the country and he makes thousands cry but he makes millions smile.

as a fan your job is to support your team and looks like you have never supported your captain says a lot about you. not happy with players who get selected blame the selectors not the player or the actual few who have the common-sense to support the player.

you have judged all his fans. if David Luiz was my fav player in the world and not messi with that also mean I don't understand football.
 
Wow another pointless afridi bashing thread

It's actually a condescending undermining of Brathwaite's talent. This guy is a serious prodigy and doesn't deserve to be used as a stick to beat Afridi with. He deserves his own thread, that striking was so clean and calculated. What a player he could become.
 
Let's see Braithwaite hit 2 sixes being 9 wickets down vs ashwin (in a no dew situation).
People just jumping on the Afridi hate bandwagon here.
Still fourth best t20 ranked bowler and up there in all rounders too.
 
Let's see Braithwaite hit 2 sixes being 9 wickets down vs ashwin (in a no dew situation).
People just jumping on the Afridi hate bandwagon here.
Still fourth best t20 ranked bowler and up there in all rounders too.

There wasn't much dew last night, and what makes you think afridi hit those sixes in no dew situation?
 
This was so uncoordinated...... :facepalm: I couldn't for one second figure out the premise of what exactly were you trying to say. However, I am assuming that you're his fan and are sad that everyone is taking your hero to task.

Put it simply, Afridi has every right to have simplistic fans that galore on his 'eyes closed' slogging and trust me when I say this; I won't ever judge you for that but doing it at the expense of Pakistan's national cricket team's success is something an intellectual patriot would never appreciate.

There is a website called cricinfo; quite helpful I might add, that has a built in statistical query based search engine. Pull out Afridi's record since his debut and run through his numbers. What you'll find is that the hero you all consider as the next best thing since sliced bread is as mediocre as they come and compared to top 50 batsmen and bowlers of the last 15 years he is right at the bottom of the food chain - NOT MY OPINION but HARD FACT

He has the worst captaincy record for anyone who's captained Pakistan; coupled this with his brainless slogging and mediocrish career numbers are something that in the competitive international cricket is practically shooting yourself in the foot.

He might have millions of fans but those fans, if you ask me, have as much of an understanding of cricket as that of a shinning goldfish. The biggest winners for the entirety of Afridi's career are his PR team - Making one of the most medicore cricketer the face of a test playing nation is no easy task - They have done an outright fantastic job and should be hired by PCB instead to market domestic competitions and other FC related stuff.

Well said.
 
There wasn't much dew last night, and what makes you think afridi hit those sixes in no dew situation?

I wasn't talking about last night. Ashwin is changing bowler to hit consecutive 6s if no dew around.
I'm guessing there was no dew that day because I didn't here dhoni complain about it.
Ashwin would not have bowled either of there was dew.

I was being flippant too but people are going out with Afridi hate
 
I wasn't talking about last night. Ashwin is changing bowler to hit consecutive 6s if no dew around.
I'm guessing there was no dew that day because I didn't here dhoni complain about it.
Ashwin would not have bowled either of there was dew.

I was being flippant too but people are going out with Afridi hate

Dhoni didn't complain because he wasn't playing, kohli was the captain :asif
 
The problem that Afridi faces is himself.He had a lot of talent but never could do justice to it.He has been hyped up by his fans for so many years,he is not afraid that he will lose his place after a few bad matches.He is a very selfish and confused man,with not an iota of shame,that his hapless performances have led us to become the laughing stock of the cricketing world.Which team except Afghanistan(even that is unlikely now) would keep him in the squad,waiting for him to get out trying to slog the ball?Which team would be so patient with such a player?Before 2010 I was a huge fan of his.He was my idol,my favorite player.I tried to replicate his shots.But I was a kid back then,with next to no knowledge about cricket.Eventually I learned about the game,eventually I found out that my hero was a clown who didn't know what the situation required.

A large part of this hype around him is because of the Media.Appearing in all sorts of Advertisements(not because of his cricketing prowess but because of his good looks),made him even more popular among his fan base.He also has contacts in the media(especially Geo TV) and has lobbies in the PCB.

He played his favourite players in the team,Ahmed Shahzad,Umar Akmal,Anwar Ali (for a few matches).His captaincy truly was clueless.His differences with Vicky bhai were well publicised.Several players tried to be like him.He has corrupted our style of cricket more than anybody else

Yes,his performances in the 2009 WT20 were great.But that does not negate the countless matches he has lost with his brainlessness.

And now he says he wants to continue playing.Please retire now,Afridi.There is no use in beating a dead dog with a stick.
 
Well your question was very general. To which I thought you were referring to ODI's. However, there was room for clarity so i simply asked.

If Gayle can register a triple century then Afridi is more than capable in my opinion, one his day.

I just wanted to gauge your cricketing knowledge.

I think by you emphatically stating that the only reason Afridi doesn't have a triple century even in domestic cricket is only because he hasn't opened enough, is a good indicator of that.
 
I was actually replaying to a post and answering the issues raised in that post. and you start your post by trying to insult my intelligence just because it will prove your point that afridi fans don't know ****.

why do I need cric info I know what afridi is ( I am his fan I watch all is games). I have seen it with my eyes player of the tournament at the world cup and runner up in the next one. where he was mom in the final. this is also a fact

define success, and why is the success of a nation dependent on afridi or his millions of fans fault. if you want to be patriotic then afridi mighty not bring home victories but he brings a lot of revenue for the country his charity does a lot of work for the country and he makes thousands cry but he makes millions smile.

as a fan your job is to support your team and looks like you have never supported your captain says a lot about you. not happy with players who get selected blame the selectors not the player or the actual few who have the common-sense to support the player.

you have judged all his fans. if David Luiz was my fav player in the world and not messi with that also mean I don't understand football.

I don't know how anyone can question your intellect after this post.
 
His appointment as captain is rather premature.

Still somebody with potential than one who has been delivering the goods consistently.

Or is it a ploy by the WICB, stopping another one of their players from being lost to T20 leagues?
 
Carlos Brathwaite - The NEW Shahid Afridi

The reincarnation of Afridi in West Indian form.

Silent for matches in a row, then bursts out with an epic performance.

Won his team a t20 Wcup like our own Lala.

And now when no one gave him a chance, plays a stunning innings for the islands.

The all rounder of legend reborn. :afridi :gayle
 
Haha, I'm sure Brathwaite would aim higher than being the new 'Afridi' if he was honestly asked.

What a low bar.
 
Afridi was only good against pace as an opener. He didn't have the skill or temperament to be a finisher as opposed to Brathwaite.
 
Don't recall Afridi playing a consistent blinder like Carlos was doing today, Afridi has had his games vs India and the one vs Bangladesh in the Asia Cup but no where close to this extent especially at a World Cup.
 
Don't recall Afridi playing a consistent blinder like Carlos was doing today, Afridi has had his games vs India and the one vs Bangladesh in the Asia Cup but no where close to this extent especially at a World Cup.

As always we over-hype our players as if they are some sort of legends. Even I have been guilty of this.

Pakistan needs good, consistent players to be given long runs.

The problem was, these inconsistent hacks like Malik and Afridi played for 15 years and became legends just for playing a lot of games and not good performances.
 
Let's not insult Afridi.

Braithwaite averages 17 in ODIs and 15 in T20s with bat despite playing in a far easier batting era.

I will not even waste time to compare their bowling.
 
Let's not insult Afridi.

Braithwaite averages 17 in ODIs and 15 in T20s with bat despite playing in a far easier batting era.

I will not even waste time to compare their bowling.

OP probably thinks any random WI hack is better than :sa
 
Afridi was the best at what he did in early 2000's. You can't compare one player from one era to another player from a different era.
 
Afridis average doesn’t tell the whole story one of the best match winners for Pakistan watch the Sri Lanka Sharjah match in 2012 where he scored 75 and picked up like 5 wickets unbelievable win
 
Afridis average doesn’t tell the whole story one of the best match winners for Pakistan watch the Sri Lanka Sharjah match in 2012 where he scored 75 and picked up like 5 wickets unbelievable win

Lol@ "one of the best match winners for Pakistan"
 
Afridi was a bad Cricketer but make no mistake brathwaite is even worse he is a nothing bowler and hit and miss bat
 
Lol. Can't take this post seriously.

Afridi was an awful player, but he was miles better all of our fake all-rounder like Faheem , Imad and Shadab
Brathwaite is far behind than Afridi
Brathwaite is a mediocre bowler but Afridi was quite good
In term of batting I think Afridi was better than Braithwaite because he won us a t20 WC with his batting
 
Shahid Afridi was more an entertainer than a batsmen but he was a very handy bowler.

When he burst onto the scene, he was a very good fielder who could move fast with a bullet arm.
 
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