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Babar being put into his place by everyone. Thankfully no one is defending such timid match loser.
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"Everyone has their own opinion, but you cannot say that I am selfish": Babar Azam
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There are hundreds who are still defending him.
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this is incorrect. Rizwan has not won an international T20 tournament yes but that's not his fault. Sachin played 6 WCs and only won 1.Rizwan the T20 champ who has never won a T20 tournament.
Babar the GOAT who chokes against first string bowling lineups lol.
You seem to be a young kid, maybe a teenager.
A lifetime of disappointment and thrashings at the hand of India await you, son.
Was it a second string Bhumrah, Sami that he smacked all around in 2021? When he was giving nightmares to a Dale Steyn bowling full tilt? Maybe you are were too young to watch that. Watch his domination of Starc and Hazelwood in his 196.
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Rizwan has won ZERO. That's infinite less than ONE.
2021 was dew factor. in the semi he flopped hard and was knocked out of the semi. Aus won it.
There was no nightmares to Steyn. Steynwas old and retired a month later. Also SA whitewashed Pak 3-0 that series.
That 196 match was a flattie which was a draw and then Aus won the series.
So basically all his good knocks are in series/tournaments which Pakistan did not even win.
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Sayon bhaee, are you dense? He has won T20 tournaments so by definition he is a T20 Champ. He is the most successful batsman in the format (or close to it) so by definition he is a T20 Champ.Rizwan has won ZERO. That's infinite less than ONE.
2021 was dew factor. in the semi he flopped hard and was knocked out of the semi. Aus won it.
There was no nightmares to Steyn. Steynwas old and retired a month later. Also SA whitewashed Pak 3-0 that series.
That 196 match was a flattie which was a draw and then Aus won the series.
So basically all his good knocks are in series/tournaments which Pakistan did not even win.
Your hate for Babar will never allow you to see him for who he is. Come back when a new gen Indian batsman comes close to 31 centuries.
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Question to all - if he was selfish why would he sacrifice his T20 opening slot despite being Pak's most successful batsman there with Rizwan? Why would he open in ODIs simply to cover Ayub when he is one of the GOAT number 3s? He relinquished captaincy when he saw he wasn't the best man for the job, a selfish man does not do that. People are hating on him because of his English and a bad day at the office - during which he still scored 64 - as if no one here has had a bad day at work.
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which t20 tournaments? lol
he isn't even the t20 equal of the likes of sanju samson, abhishek sharma, tilak varma etc
shubman is already on 13 and will surpass babar lol.
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He captained Multan Sultans to a title - like I said keep up Sayon, no PrinceEWs here to save you. He has been in T20I teams chosen by ICC but we should listen to Sayon Basak LOL!
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Amir Nazir was
I’ll share the video here soon for everyone to see how the PR machine works for this guy
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multan sultans lol lol lol
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Chawwal leagues dont count.
IPL and BBL are the only leagues that have some standard.
IPL and BBL are the only leagues that have some standard.
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He did nothing.
They won beacause of dahani and sohaib maqsood.
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We understood in 2021 that Babar is an awful selfish but people like @RizwanT20Champ @RedwoodOriginal @Major will understand it in 2030.
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If you think Babar is bad and rate kamran, usman, tayyab, agha and every other batsman higher than Babar, than you havent watched Pakistan cricket in the last 20 years.
Even a half decent Babr is better than these guys
He did not choose to do all those things. It was decided by the management, as it should.
Also, opening is the easiest position to play at in Limited Overs crickets
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Did they get as many chances as Babar?
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What??
We saw a half in form Babar in Karachi the other night….he was outbatted by Naseem, Shaheen and Rauf on the same pitch
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Keep bashing Babar but we have all seen how bad his replacements are so far..SAUD???? KAMRAN??? LOL
Hope Babar bats more sensibly this time because he is not defendable anymore.
Hope Babar bats more sensibly this time because he is not defendable anymore.
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2025
Babar 4 games, 31 avg, 75 sr
Agha 4 games 65 avg, 105sr
Kamran 1 game, 18 avg, 56 sr
Tayyab 4 games 24 avg 107 SR
Saud 3 games 9 avg, 56 sr
2024
Tayyab 3 games 57 avg, 142 SR
Agha 9 games 41 avg, 95 SR
Kamran 9 games 32 Avg, 106 SR
Babar 6 games 57 avg, 76 SR
You realise agha has been consistently outperforming babar for 2 years now in odi? Only in 2023 Babar > Agha but that was due to the fact that agha played like 2 games vs nz and 1 game in wc after Pakistan was exiled from the tournament + it was his debut year.
Agha played at no 6 in 2024, avg 41 and 95 sr at no 6 is astronomically better then avg 57 and 76 sr at no 3. That sr is pathetic.
In 2025 it's not even a comparison, agha at no 5 is even better then at no 6 and he's crushing Babar from all fronts.
Then when it comes to tayyab, He bats at no 6 and no 7 which is not an avg position but a strike rate position and he's done well for his standards..he's no maxwell or Miller but he's punching > his weight compared to Babar who's punching below his weight.
Babar is not > Agha in odi on current form. Claiming he is is being disingenuous.
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Hope Babar bats more sensibly this time because he is not defendable anymore.
You claim its not defendable but here you are defending him? By claiming this?
Keep bashing Babar but we have all seen how bad his replacements are so far..SAUD???? KAMRAN??? LOL
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Saud and Kamran are facts... accept it brother... They are not good enough
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You know what I am saying. Just ignoring it I guess... LOL...nevermind...
Babar has no right to stay on the team if he fails to perform in the CT games...this is also a fact
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Am not ignoring it, i just want you to confess.
Babar has no right to stay on the team if he fails to perform in the CT games...this is also a fact
Nvm you confessed. I acknowledge your submission
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I am not gonna defend any passenger but saud and Kamran as his replacements have failed badly..
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The classic deflection tactic which has been used for time immortal by rulers, politicians etc been showcased here by mods.
Babar is poor in flat track era of ODI’s, yet is opening the innings.
It doesn’t matter if the replacements tried so far are worse than him, the fact is Babar was given ample chances and he has proved he is not fit to open in ODI’s/T20s against elite teams in big tournaments.
Now PCB should send him back to revamp his game in domestics while they try someone new who can work.
It might take years to find a replacement but the current guy (Babar Azam) is not working and should not be persisted with.
Problem with Pakistani fans is that they are probably the only big cricketing nation which takes random bilateral series seriously and criticise their team when they lose those random series. The whole world is using bilaterals to test and build bench strength while Pakistan plays full strength team so their players can stay pad and let their PR agency get to work.
For bilaterals there should be a strict rule to not include first choice players unless they are returning from injury or need to get acclimated to the conditions or need to get back in form. Bilaterals, especially against mediocre or B teams should be played by Pakistani young prospects.
To cut the story short, the main blame for Pakistani cricketing woes is on its “awaam” which has led the nation to the dark days it’s in now which in turn has corrupted the systems which shows in its cricket.
This would have worked in 90s when crickets could hone their skills in county and other teams weren’t as professional or modern but in 2025 this won’t work and hence Pakistan will always be a mediocre inconsistent team until their “awaam” grows a pair and fixes their country first.
Babar is poor in flat track era of ODI’s, yet is opening the innings.
It doesn’t matter if the replacements tried so far are worse than him, the fact is Babar was given ample chances and he has proved he is not fit to open in ODI’s/T20s against elite teams in big tournaments.
Now PCB should send him back to revamp his game in domestics while they try someone new who can work.
It might take years to find a replacement but the current guy (Babar Azam) is not working and should not be persisted with.
Problem with Pakistani fans is that they are probably the only big cricketing nation which takes random bilateral series seriously and criticise their team when they lose those random series. The whole world is using bilaterals to test and build bench strength while Pakistan plays full strength team so their players can stay pad and let their PR agency get to work.
For bilaterals there should be a strict rule to not include first choice players unless they are returning from injury or need to get acclimated to the conditions or need to get back in form. Bilaterals, especially against mediocre or B teams should be played by Pakistani young prospects.
To cut the story short, the main blame for Pakistani cricketing woes is on its “awaam” which has led the nation to the dark days it’s in now which in turn has corrupted the systems which shows in its cricket.
This would have worked in 90s when crickets could hone their skills in county and other teams weren’t as professional or modern but in 2025 this won’t work and hence Pakistan will always be a mediocre inconsistent team until their “awaam” grows a pair and fixes their country first.
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Babar Azam, Mohammad Rizwan have no selfishness, very team-oriented: Gillespie
Former Pakistan head coach Jason Gillespie said that he doesn't find Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan to be selfish when it comes to their playing style. Gillespie worked with the duo during his short time with Pakistan cricket. However, Babar and Rizwan have been criticised a lot for being slow with their batting, especially in T20Is.
This saw both men being dropped from the T20I side for the New Zealand tour as the Pakistan Cricket Board decided to take a different route with the T20 World Cup 2026 in mind. Speaking to Pakpassion.net, Gillespie was asked if the senior players were putting pressure on youngsters by playing slow cricket.
The former Pakistan coach said that it does look like it from the outside, but said that Babar and Rizwan are players who are very team-oriented.
"Certainly does, please don't interpret it that I'm talking about someone like Babar or Rizwan because I'm not. I certainly don't think there's there's any selfishness in their games at all."
"I personally, in my short time with Pakistan, I found those guys to be very team-orientated," said Gillespie.
Gillespie said that he feels that sometimes players in Pakistan cricket feel insecure about their spot and need to do something to keep hold of their place in the team.
"You know, certainly not directing anything towards them at all, but for a while, since I have come in and out of the team a bit. Sometimes players just get into that mentality of I've just got to stay here and I don't want to lose my spot again."
"So maybe that's the nature of Pakistan cricket, unfortunately, that the players don't feel secure enough of their spots in the team that they feel that they just have to play for themselves to make sure that they get picked next time," said Gillespie.
Bold call to drop Babar and Rizwan from T20I side
Speaking about dropping Babar and Rizwan from the T20I side, Gillespie said that it was a bold decision and an interesting one as Pakistan knew exactly what they get from the two.
"I mean that's an interesting one, isn't it? You know what we've seen in T20 cricket. They've put some really good performances in. I think there has been a bit of criticism at times from certain parts that maybe they can score a bit slowly at times, but I mean I think you have to look at context as well and you have to look at situations."
"Serious situations, they're vastly experienced cricketers, and there's a reason why they play a certain way based on what they see out there, because you want to trust players to go out there."
"Play the game and adjust and adapt their game to the conditions, to the scenario, to the situation, but it's a bold call to leave out two quality players like Babar and Rizwan I suppose," said Gillespie.
Source: https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cr...on-gillespie-pakistan-team-2711854-2025-04-20
Former Pakistan head coach Jason Gillespie said that he doesn't find Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan to be selfish when it comes to their playing style. Gillespie worked with the duo during his short time with Pakistan cricket. However, Babar and Rizwan have been criticised a lot for being slow with their batting, especially in T20Is.
This saw both men being dropped from the T20I side for the New Zealand tour as the Pakistan Cricket Board decided to take a different route with the T20 World Cup 2026 in mind. Speaking to Pakpassion.net, Gillespie was asked if the senior players were putting pressure on youngsters by playing slow cricket.
The former Pakistan coach said that it does look like it from the outside, but said that Babar and Rizwan are players who are very team-oriented.
"Certainly does, please don't interpret it that I'm talking about someone like Babar or Rizwan because I'm not. I certainly don't think there's there's any selfishness in their games at all."
"I personally, in my short time with Pakistan, I found those guys to be very team-orientated," said Gillespie.
Gillespie said that he feels that sometimes players in Pakistan cricket feel insecure about their spot and need to do something to keep hold of their place in the team.
"You know, certainly not directing anything towards them at all, but for a while, since I have come in and out of the team a bit. Sometimes players just get into that mentality of I've just got to stay here and I don't want to lose my spot again."
"So maybe that's the nature of Pakistan cricket, unfortunately, that the players don't feel secure enough of their spots in the team that they feel that they just have to play for themselves to make sure that they get picked next time," said Gillespie.
Bold call to drop Babar and Rizwan from T20I side
Speaking about dropping Babar and Rizwan from the T20I side, Gillespie said that it was a bold decision and an interesting one as Pakistan knew exactly what they get from the two.
"I mean that's an interesting one, isn't it? You know what we've seen in T20 cricket. They've put some really good performances in. I think there has been a bit of criticism at times from certain parts that maybe they can score a bit slowly at times, but I mean I think you have to look at context as well and you have to look at situations."
"Serious situations, they're vastly experienced cricketers, and there's a reason why they play a certain way based on what they see out there, because you want to trust players to go out there."
"Play the game and adjust and adapt their game to the conditions, to the scenario, to the situation, but it's a bold call to leave out two quality players like Babar and Rizwan I suppose," said Gillespie.
Source: https://www.indiatoday.in/sports/cr...on-gillespie-pakistan-team-2711854-2025-04-20
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Braah Shut up Jason mind your own business in the Test side of things.
It was a bold call to drop Babar in the 2nd Test v England and you were saved the blushes after that 800 run pounding!
Yeah let’s talk about the wider context now shall we??
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I've been calling Gillespie out for such a long time, yet I remember when I did, everyone scrutinised me on end.
They kept talking about how he was a world class coach and what not and I kept and kept saying that while Kristen was done dirty, removing Gillespie was the right call.
World class coaching credentials aside, he genuinely wasn't even interested in Pakistan test cricket.
Seriously what did he achieve other then getting along with shan? Had the pitch doctoring nonsense not happened, all that would have occurred is Indians panicking since Joe root would have scored atleast 600+ runs throughout the series and would be closing in on Sachin's run tally.
Followed by Brooks Bradman scoring close to 1000 runs by smacking triple centuries on repeat.
He didn't even work on the fitness standards. I remember people scrutinising me for claiming Shan's and Abdullah's hundreds were trash against England.
I never claimed that, I claimed that the way they got out proves that their not able to bat for long hours which is a requirement in test cricket, while root and Brooks batted for 2.5 days in the heat without any issues. They kept butchering Pakistan, Shan and Abdullah got dismissed on a road cause they got tuckered out.
Similarly the reason Pakistan kept collapsing in the 2nd innings against Bangladesh and England on road pitches wasn't due to the pitch deteriorating, it was due to the fact that they were too tired to bat having been forced to field for 3 days by Bangladesh and England.
With the exception of Saud Shakeel, no one else in the dugout had the capability of playing 200 deliveries in test.
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