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Exposing Rashid Khan: He is not as good as everybody thinks

Katwalindian

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I just came to know that Rashid Khan took 90% of his wickets against associate teams like Hong Kong, UAE, and Zimbabwe. If he plays regularly against big teams, he will be exposed like Shadab Khan.

He flopped in the 2019 World Cup, 2021 T20 WC, and 2022 T20 WC, and only performs sporadically in leagues. Kuldeep is 10x better than him because he has 90% of his wickets against big teams. Even Shadab has 80% of his wickets against big teams.

What do you guys think?
 
That's why if he played against big teams regularly he would have lost his mojo long time ago like shadab...
Er no, Shadab isn't in his league its not about playing big teams regularly , visual footage is consistently available to plan, he is just ageing now and his official age is definitely not real.
 
C'mon man ..I am no leg spin expert but at least he lands the ball on the pitch unlike Shadab Full-toss Khan.
 
Yeah he mostly played against
Er no, Shadab isn't in his league its not about playing big teams regularly , visual footage is consistently available to plan, he is just ageing now and his official age is definitely not real.
Shivam dube is looking dale steyn 2.0 while bowling against Same teams which rashid khan statpadded......Shadab khan outperformed him in icc 2019 wc, 2021 t20 wc, 2022 t20 wc and he never have luxury to play 90 percent series against associates otherwise he also would have been GOAT by now 😂
 
He is one of the most over-exposed bowler. He is still considered a threat. Look at Mendis. once his mystery was gone he became non-existent. Rookies generally enjoy beginners luck.
 
Before bashing someone, atleast do some qualitative analysis.

Shadab sucks because Shadab barely gets any turn on his deliveries and because shadab bowls full tosses and cant bowl a right line and length.

Rashid khan gets sharp turn, bowls faster and has very good line and length
 
Shadab khan only become full tosses khan recently
Wrong. Shadab was bowling full toses from his first match in his psl debut. He bowled full tosses in every game he had played.

The only time he bowled at proper lengths was against his first series against west indies.
 
Shadab deteriorated in last few years as he was carrying a shoulder injury. Otherwise, he was decent in CT17, WC19, WC21, WC22. Now if he can recover from his injury and can get back to even 22WC level form, he will add a lot of balance to our side going into 26WC.

As for Rashid, he bowls quick and straight albeit with good accuracy and occasional variation. Any batsman with good slog sweep can counter him and as modern day batsmen are getting better with that shot, he is becoming less threatening. Right now, Noor Ahmad is better bowler than him because of his left arm angle and he also gets more bounce due to his action.
 
He is one of the most over-exposed bowler. He is still considered a threat. Look at Mendis. once his mystery was gone he became non-existent. Rookies generally enjoy beginners luck.
Na he is good.

He is infact the best t20 spinner out there as he is a guranteed wicket taker.

In ODIs, teams tend to avoid attacking Rashid, so they just block him out and go for the other spinners. In t20, he comes in very crucial times and takes down the opposition.

Remember, Afghanistan doesnt play proper fast bowlers in their line up, and they tend to attack with spinners. So considering that Rashid has done really well. Rashid would had done even better if Afhganistan had pacers to open the attack and than another spinner partnering from the other end where rashid bowls
 
He's pretty great. One of the top spin-bowlers in the world in white-ball, and has been for a very long time. I can think of few bowlers who have had as much of a role as Rashid has in their team's rise. It's not his fault that Afghanistan were an associate side when he made his debut and that he had to play matches against so many minnows.

If you think he only performs against minnows you clearly haven't seen him bowl that much. Here are some of the spells he has bowled in recent years:

3-37 against England in Delhi, 2023 World Cup, led to Afghanistan's first ever World Cup win against a test-playing nation.
2-37 against South Africa at Ahmedabad, 2023 World Cup: singlehandedly made a game out of a match that seemed done and dusted. South Africa won but he took the game fairly close.
2-44 against Australia at Mumbai, 2023 World Cup
5-19 against South Africa at Sharjah, Afghanistan won this game by 177 runs
2-26 against Sri Lanka at Abu Dhabi, 2018 Asia Cup in a game that Afghanistan won handily.
3-46 against Pakistan at Abu Dhabi, 2018 Asia Cup in a game that Pakistan barely won.

Let's look at T20 now:

2-26 against West Indies, Nagpur, 2016 T20 World Cup: in a match where Afghanistan beat eventual champions West Indies.
2-26 against Pakistan, Sharjah, 2022 Asia Cup: Pakistan won this match by 1 wicket.
4-17 against New Zealand, Providence, 2024 T20 World Cup: Afghanistan destroyed New Zealand by 80+ runs in this match.
3-26 against India, Bridgetown, 2024 T20 World Cup
 
He's not the bowler he was until 3 years ago when he was a nightmare to face but he's still good enough. Real age is probably catching up with him
 
What a lot of people forget is that guys like Shane Warne grew up playing against quality sides in their domestic cricket. People like Rashid didnt get to play against quaity sides, still they churn in with what ability they have.
 
Afghanistan has truck load of mystery spinners. They will keep introducing them. But unless they play more and more international games as a unit that cohesive atmosphere would be missing. Pakistan has played 16 or 17 T20Is this year as a same team. Afghanistan's first game since 2024 was in that tri nation cup. How would you gel as a unit if you don't play as a team often enough.
 
I think Rashid is pretty good in T20.

In my opinion, Rashid Khan is the greatest T20 player of all time. He has the most T20 wickets (including franchise cricket) and most T20I wickets.

He is also handy with the bat. Very good attacking batter.
 
I just came to know that Rashid Khan took 90% of his wickets against associate teams like Hong Kong, UAE, and Zimbabwe. If he plays regularly against big teams, he will be exposed like Shadab Khan.

He flopped in the 2019 World Cup, 2021 T20 WC, and 2022 T20 WC, and only performs sporadically in leagues. Kuldeep is 10x better than him because he has 90% of his wickets against big teams. Even Shadab has 80% of his wickets against big teams.

What do you guys think?
Highest wicket taker with an economy rate of 6.12 after 101 Games in T20I is pretty good and a 13.52 SR, this is a good sample size to know that he is good.
 
I just came to know that Rashid Khan took 90% of his wickets against associate teams like Hong Kong, UAE, and Zimbabwe. If he plays regularly against big teams, he will be exposed like Shadab Khan.

He flopped in the 2019 World Cup, 2021 T20 WC, and 2022 T20 WC, and only performs sporadically in leagues. Kuldeep is 10x better than him because he has 90% of his wickets against big teams. Even Shadab has 80% of his wickets against big teams.

What do you guys think?
I agree with @Katwalindian except for the shadab Khan part, Rashid is leagues > Shadab as both a bowler and a batsmen.

But Rashid isnt as good as people think he is. The highest t20 wicket taker was achieved vs Minnows.

In reality he's a spinner on par with the likes of Hafeez so still very good but not the overrated hype machine he is made out to be.

Granted hafeez is off and rashid is leg but I'm talking about effectiveness
 
Rashid bowls too much, he plays almost all the leagues and international games for Afghanistan. If you are playing that many games you are bound to be fatigued and also good players figure you out. Rashid is still a great LO bowler but he does need a break and reduce the amount of matches he plays in a year. Like someone said too much exposure means that there isn't any surprise left in your bowling.
 
Sharjah Pitch was rank Turner in final where M nawaz was unplayable and Rashid khan the best spinner in the world returned figures of 38 runs in 4 overs. Thats proper thrashing. any player who can play sweep shot well dnt need to read him off the hand. I liked how Agha Handled him. he looked so comfortable against him. Cover the line and Stumps , and just nudge him on the leg side for singles and he will occasionally over pitch for slog sweep to come in play
 
It might be Afghanistani hatred of undermining Rashid's threat. Otherwise no captain in right mind would go for another spinner in LOIs from the current crop.
He hasn't had a good year which may be due to temporary glitch in form or his real age catching up with him.
But there's no doubt he's one bowler any team would love to have. In t20s, the only competition he has is from Narine but Narine is a chicken when it comes to internationals and has always run away due to fear of getting reported for chucking.
 
Sharjah Pitch was rank Turner in final where M nawaz was unplayable and Rashid khan the best spinner in the world returned figures of 38 runs in 4 overs. Thats proper thrashing. any player who can play sweep shot well dnt need to read him off the hand. I liked how Agha Handled him. he looked so comfortable against him. Cover the line and Stumps , and just nudge him on the leg side for singles and he will occasionally over pitch for slog sweep to come in play
Thats because Nawaz is a left arm spinner. It will always be difficult to attack a left arm spinner if he gets even alittle bit of turn.

Rashid on the other hand bowls with more pace. Now on a rank turner he can get more turn if he leaves the ball in the air, but his pace makes him dangerous in every ground in the world.

Besides Nawaz has sucked in majority of games he has played, while Rashid has one off game sometimes
 
As for the age factor. No doubt he has fudged his age, but i wouldnt say age is catching up.

He is a spinner and spinners improve as they age.

I think its the Afghan factor which makes alot of Pakistanis hate him.

Because you guys dont know how great of a bowler Rashid is. Spinners improve by playing loads of overs in first class cricket. This guy doesnt have that access to first class and test but is still good from bowling in limited overs.

See him with an unbias lense
 
Thats because Nawaz is a left arm spinner. It will always be difficult to attack a left arm spinner if he gets even alittle bit of turn.

Rashid on the other hand bowls with more pace. Now on a rank turner he can get more turn if he leaves the ball in the air, but his pace makes him dangerous in every ground in the world.

Besides Nawaz has sucked in majority of games he has played, while Rashid has one off game sometimes

I usually dnt engage with posters who have DP of Fascist Dictator .. A major red flag

But i will respond to you on this one

i did nt say Rashid is not good. He bowls with more pace because he goes for wickets. So its a two edged sword.. If batsman is competent Enough , He will Tonk Rashid easily just like Agha did. Play him on back foot and cover the line of wrong one which he bowls excessively. He will give you hit me ball eventually
 
I usually dnt engage with posters who have DP of Fascist Dictator .. A major red flag

But i will respond to you on this one

i did nt say Rashid is not good. He bowls with more pace because he goes for wickets. So its a two edged sword.. If batsman is competent Enough , He will Tonk Rashid easily just like Agha did. Play him on back foot and cover the line of wrong one which he bowls excessively. He will give you hit me ball eventually
Easier said than done.

If it was easy to attack Rashid, most teams would had done that.

When you are turning the ball and have pace, you become the most dangerous spinner.

Zahid Mehmood from Pakistan was the only leg spinner after Danish Kaneria that had a much larger turn in his bowling. His main issue was he was at the same time a very slow spinner, which made hitting him very easy.

Rashid is not very easy to play against. The main weapon with Rashid is that he bowls his leg spin and his googly with the same action. Plus, his line is very accurate. He can bowl the legspin and googly at the same trajectory.

Offcourse, guys like Rashid will have a one bad off day or tournament. Shane Warne was notoriously not as good on Indian spin wickets as he was on Australian pace wickets.

The only reason why Rashid could have bad stats by the end of his career is because Afghanistan is forced to use him as their death bowler. He is not allowed to bowl his spin overs in the middle and finish off, as he has to come in death and defend those runs as all the other bowlers these guys play are not good enoufh baring Fazalhaq
 
Easier said than done.

If it was easy to attack Rashid, most teams would had done that.

When you are turning the ball and have pace, you become the most dangerous spinner.

Zahid Mehmood from Pakistan was the only leg spinner after Danish Kaneria that had a much larger turn in his bowling. His main issue was he was at the same time a very slow spinner, which made hitting him very easy.

Rashid is not very easy to play against. The main weapon with Rashid is that he bowls his leg spin and his googly with the same action. Plus, his line is very accurate. He can bowl the legspin and googly at the same trajectory.

Offcourse, guys like Rashid will have a one bad off day or tournament. Shane Warne was notoriously not as good on Indian spin wickets as he was on Australian pace wickets.

The only reason why Rashid could have bad stats by the end of his career is because Afghanistan is forced to use him as their death bowler. He is not allowed to bowl his spin overs in the middle and finish off, as he has to come in death and defend those runs as all the other bowlers these guys play are not good enoufh baring Fazalhaq

Rashid’s huge wicket Tally record is bit skewed towards weaker oppositions

Out of 171 T20I wickets

117 of those came against Zimbabwe , Ireland , BD and UAE

Rashid does not play enough against stronger teams.

He has played 32 Matches against Aus , NZ , SA , SL , Pak and WI combined and his wicket Tally is 39 Wickets against these oppositions. 13 of these 39 are against Weaker Pak Sides. For Example Pak sent its A team for series in 2023 in Sharjah. All of 12 wickets against Pak are in Sharjah and one in Dubai. Pretty sure he will be tonked by Pak batters in Pindi and Lahore
 
Rashid’s huge wicket Tally record is bit skewed towards weaker oppositions

Out of 171 T20I wickets

117 of those came against Zimbabwe , Ireland , BD and UAE

Rashid does not play enough against stronger teams.

He has played 32 Matches against Aus , NZ , SA , SL , Pak and WI combined and his wicket Tally is 39 Wickets against these oppositions. 13 of these 39 are against Weaker Pak Sides. For Example Pak sent its A team for series in 2023 in Sharjah. All of 12 wickets against Pak are in Sharjah and one in Dubai. Pretty sure he will be tonked by Pak batters in Pindi and Lahore
Thats because ICC doesnt help in Afghanistan facing stronger oppositions.

And this strong and weak opposition debate has died down, because our spinners have even sucked against the weaker opposition.

You need to look at Rashid from a qualitative aspect. His pace, his turn and his line and length makes him the best spinner currently.

You need to also factor in that he is being forced to do all the jobs of bowling in middle overs and the death overs aswell. Unlike an indian spinner who can bowl his full qouta in between.

But if you think he is not good enough, than name the spinners better than him according to your opinion.
 
Rashid’s huge wicket Tally record is bit skewed towards weaker oppositions

Out of 171 T20I wickets

117 of those came against Zimbabwe , Ireland , BD and UAE

Rashid does not play enough against stronger teams.

He has played 32 Matches against Aus , NZ , SA , SL , Pak and WI combined and his wicket Tally is 39 Wickets against these oppositions. 13 of these 39 are against Weaker Pak Sides. For Example Pak sent its A team for series in 2023 in Sharjah. All of 12 wickets against Pak are in Sharjah and one in Dubai. Pretty sure he will be tonked by Pak batters in Pindi and Lahore
I've never seen rashid Khan ever trouble a top side from Sena or India.

Even when Afghanistan tortured Australia 2x, Rashid wasn't the man who troubled them, Farooqi did from pace and poor Ahmed did from spin.

Rashid only took wickets when aus was crippled, even then he couldnt contain Maxwell even once.
 
Thats because ICC doesnt help in Afghanistan facing stronger oppositions.

And this strong and weak opposition debate has died down, because our spinners have even sucked against the weaker opposition.

You need to look at Rashid from a qualitative aspect. His pace, his turn and his line and length makes him the best spinner currently.

You need to also factor in that he is being forced to do all the jobs of bowling in middle overs and the death overs aswell. Unlike an indian spinner who can bowl his full qouta in between.

But if you think he is not good enough, than name the spinners better than him according to your opinion.
i did nt say he is not good

but we have not seen enough of him against stronger oppositions . its not his fault but people tend to give him title of ATG spinner in t20Is is bit over reaching

Thing about mystery spinners is , more you play against them , more comfortable you get. Same is the case with Rashid. On a track like sharjah , He will always trouble batters.

Debate is not between our spinners and Rashid. So yeah skewed record against weaker oppositions is relevant in figuring out if he can be called ATG t20 Spinner.
 
I've never seen rashid Khan ever trouble a top side from Sena or India.

Even when Afghanistan tortured Australia 2x, Rashid wasn't the man who troubled them, Farooqi did from pace and poor Ahmed did from spin.

Rashid only took wickets when aus was crippled, even then he couldnt contain Maxwell even once.
Rashid has played more than 50% matches in Sharjah. Give M Nawaz these many matches in Sharjah , He will do as good as him
 
i did nt say he is not good

but we have not seen enough of him against stronger oppositions . its not his fault but people tend to give him title of ATG spinner in t20Is is bit over reaching

Thing about mystery spinners is , more you play against them , more comfortable you get. Same is the case with Rashid. On a track like sharjah , He will always trouble batters.

Debate is not between our spinners and Rashid. So yeah skewed record against weaker oppositions is relevant in figuring out if he can be called ATG t20 Spinner.
He is a current ATG based on qualitative data and plus, he plays leagues against some very good sides. (In t20)

His reputation is also credited to IPL aswell.

Im using our spinners as a bar that look how our spinners failed even against the weakest cricketing nations.

Every great bowler will have a skewed record to weaker sides.

He is performing multiple roles and there is no spinner in t20 that could be considered better than him.

And i wont consider the chuckers like ajmal and Narine in this
 
He is a current ATG based on qualitative data and plus, he plays leagues against some very good sides. (In t20)

His reputation is also credited to IPL aswell.

Im using our spinners as a bar that look how our spinners failed even against the weakest cricketing nations.

Every great bowler will have a skewed record to weaker sides.

He is performing multiple roles and there is no spinner in t20 that could be considered better than him.

And i wont consider the chuckers like ajmal and Narine in this

117 out of 160 Odd wickets against Zim , Ire , UAE and BD. Thats a lot. more than 70% wickets against 4 weakest oppositions in t20 cricket

I wont consider T20 records. Just T20I

Muhammad Hafeez may not have same amount of wickets as Rashid but his economy is as good as Rashid and Even Better in ODIs

Rashid mostly bowls between 6 to 15. He cant finish before 15th over. and Hardly bowls beyond 16th. whats the multiple role here? he wont bowl in power-play and more often than not would nt bowl after 16
 
117 out of 160 Odd wickets against Zim , Ire , UAE and BD. Thats a lot. more than 70% wickets against 4 weakest oppositions in t20 cricket

I wont consider T20 records. Just T20I

Muhammad Hafeez may not have same amount of wickets as Rashid but his economy is as good as Rashid and Even Better in ODIs

Rashid mostly bowls between 6 to 15. He cant finish before 15th over. and Hardly bowls beyond 16th. whats the multiple role here? he wont bowl in power-play and more often than not would nt bowl after 16
Well t20 record will be considered. T20i isnt same as odi of 2000s.

Quality oppositions are in t20 franchise and not t20i.

Rashid bowls till the 18th over sometimes. He plays with multiple roles.

Hafeez was a chucker, so he is out of discussion.
 
He is miles better than any spinner Pakistan has produced in the last decade. If he was playing for Pakistan, we would be a much better LOI side.
 
Not his fault he did not get to play many international match against big teams. But what you say is not true either. Bro plays all around the world and picks up wickets of best of the best batsmen.
 
He is miles better than any spinner Pakistan has produced in the last decade. If he was playing for Pakistan, we would be a much better LOI side.
Some of the players are playing for wrong team

Just like Sikandar, Rashid is also an example. They have great potential and if provided facilities like big 3s, would have done more a lot
 
I thought it was a common knowledge know that Rashid Khan has mostly played against associate teams and lower ranked full members. So naturally, most of his wickets have come against these sides.

I am not here to argue about who is better than whom, but I will try to explain the impact he has had on Afghan cricket, which some fans need to understand.

Between 2010 and 2015, Afghanistan showed some signs of improvement. However, many associate teams have demonstrated that progress but failed to reach the next level . In 2015, Afghanistan participated in the T20 World Cup Global Qualifier. 14 teams competed for six spots. Afghanistan qualified but they weren’t dominating and finished in 5th place. They were among the best associates, but at that time, the Netherlands, Scotland, and Ireland were stronger.

Then Rashid Khan arrived. He completely changed the landscape. No other player in the last 10-15 years from full member teams or even top tier associates has been as vital to a team like Rashid has been for Afghanistan. From the mid to late 2010s, Afghanistan were hugely dependent on him. Thanks to him, Afghan cricket reached the next level. They gained Test status, players started receiving T20 league contracts and the cricketing world began to take Afghanistan seriously.

Rashid wasn't just performing; he was bowling during the most critical phases of the innings. Afghanistan overtook Ireland and Zimbabwe. They whitewashed Bangladesh in 2018, and in the World Cup Qualifiers, they won the tournament by defeating the West Indies in the final. He was used like Malinga or Bumrah in the death overs during those days. He was taking wickets, being economical and turning matches in Afghanistan’s favour.

At the same time, more Afghan players emerged and strengthened the team. Mujeeb Zadran and Noor Ahmad strengthened the spin attack, Nabi remained a reliable allrounder, Rahmanullah Gurbaz and Ibrahim Zadran provided stability with the bat, and Azmatullah Omarzai emerged as a handy allrounder. This group made Afghanistan an even better side. Them beating teams like West Indies, Sri Lanka, and Pakistan is now no longer an upset. Except for India, whom they have tied a couple of times, Afghanistan has now defeated every major team at least once.

Some say Rashid hasn’t performed well against top teams. Yes, he has taken 39 wickets in 32 matches against elite sides, which may not seem extraordinary. But his average is 21.69, and his economy rate is 6.82. These are excellent numbers. They are better than those of Adam Zampa, Adil Rashid and Mitchell Santner, who are all highly rated spinners.

Rashid has also become a star in T20 leagues. Some say T20 leagues don’t matter much. Maybe not for India, Pakistan or SENA nations. Unlike big players from strong nations, he had a lot to prove. If he had failed, cricket fans would have dismissed him as just another player from a minnows’ team. But he performed spectacularly in every league, opening doors for other Afghan cricketers. Today, Afghan players are in high demand in leagues, sometimes even more than players from top cricketing nations.

And for those who argue that Rashid hasn’t faced top teams enough so their batters are not accustomed to his bowling; they should understand one thing. In leagues, he gets to bowl to the best batters from top teams. They have faced him plenty of times, and he has been consistent for a long period.
 
Well t20 record will be considered. T20i isnt same as odi of 2000s.

Quality oppositions are in t20 franchise and not t20i.

Rashid bowls till the 18th over sometimes. He plays with multiple roles.

Hafeez was a chucker, so he is out of discussion.
T20 record will not be considered. We are talking about International Cricket , Does nt matter how good of quality leagues exist , it cannot surpass Int standards

sometimes is the imp word. Most of the time he does nt

Hafeez was cleared. you can have your views about him but his record stands

at end of day , Rashid has mediocre record against top 7 Teams
 
T20 record will not be considered. We are talking about International Cricket , Does nt matter how good of quality leagues exist , it cannot surpass Int standards

sometimes is the imp word. Most of the time he does nt

Hafeez was cleared. you can have your views about him but his record stands

at end of day , Rashid has mediocre record against top 7 Teams
Why cant t20 record not be considered? When your whole argumrnt is on quality of opposition than franchise cricket will be factored in.

It does matter, ipl is better and more difficult compare to a series vs zimbabwe whoses stats you are not considering.

Hafeez was cleared with his new action not the old one which was considered chucking
 
Why cant t20 record not be considered? When your whole argumrnt is on quality of opposition than franchise cricket will be factored in.

It does matter, ipl is better and more difficult compare to a series vs zimbabwe whoses stats you are not considering.

Hafeez was cleared with his new action not the old one which was considered chucking

Because Pakistanis dnt get to play IPL. so why Should we consider it? If Pakistanis were allowed in IPL who knows we might have produced better talent. Money is great motivator
 
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