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Eye for an eye - is this a good approach in life?

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I generally have an eye for eye approach in life. It means I treat and view people same way they treat and view me. I think this approach is fair.

What about you?
 
This is not a world for Gandhi's slap on the face approach.
It's ironic that Gandhi himself was heavily racist.

Eye for an eye is the best approach.
 
This is not a world for Gandhi's slap on the face approach.
It's ironic that Gandhi himself was heavily racist.

Eye for an eye is the best approach.

Agreed.

This world is really tough and complex. Gandhi's approach is not practical.
 
Its the natural human reaction - when you get hit, you want to hit back!
 
I think that's fair.

I've learned to cut off/minimise relations with "friends" who are only interested in take, take, take - whose "friendship" with you is only based on what they can extract from you whilst doing nothing for you in return.
 
I think that's fair.

I've learned to cut off/minimise relations with "friends" who are only interested in take, take, take - whose "friendship" with you is only based on what they can extract from you whilst doing nothing for you in return.

I don't always look for return. Sometimes I do things without expecting anything in return.

However, I don't tolerate if someone is looking to harm me. I cut the person off.
 
I think that's fair.

I've learned to cut off/minimise relations with "friends" who are only interested in take, take, take - whose "friendship" with you is only based on what they can extract from you whilst doing nothing for you in return.

I second that. As they say when in Rome do as Romans do. I carried through my charity based nature even in the west coming from Pakistan. I helped so many people financially even I am a student in Germany however when I need help from the same students they go missing. I always do good deeds because God only can reward me for my help and he does reward me with more multiply effect. That being said, they are freeloaders and if you give more freebies to them - they feel entitled. After analyzing the nature pretty much of all the nationals under the sun, my final conclusion is, when in Rome do as Romans do, if people are selfish and self-centered and think about themselves, you should do the same too, otherwise, people will take advantage of your gullibleness with their cockamamie ** and you will be a loser at the end of the day. In this age and time, better to be friends with a dog than with a human. I thought that only Pakistani people in Pakistan cheat you - I could not be more wrong. Everyone be it a westerner or American or Indian or Pakistan- everyone cuts from the same cloth if you give a reason to them to take advantage of you.
 
This approach wouldn’t look that fair if a man rape a woman and then her brother gets to rape that man’s sister. That’s the kind of world we’ll be living if we take this approach to its logical conclusion.
 
This approach wouldn’t look that fair if a man rape a woman and then her brother gets to rape that man’s sister. That’s the kind of world we’ll be living if we take this approach to its logical conclusion.

If a man rapes a woman, her brother has every right to chop off his genital. That will be fair.

Eye for eye can be accomplished in many different ways.
 
This is a tough question and you don't really go in depth with your own stance.

There are different degrees to the "eye for an eye" attitude. As you mention in general you treat people like they treat you. Ok, makes sense. I am on board.

However the eye for an eye attitude would also mean that if someone kidnaps, tortures and kills your child you'd also have to do the same to their child. Now would you?

I most certainly wouldn't. Yes the guilty should be hanged to death. However I don't see myself capable of doing the same thing in return not even to the criminal himself.
 
This is a tough question and you don't really go in depth with your own stance.

There are different degrees to the "eye for an eye" attitude. As you mention in general you treat people like they treat you. Ok, makes sense. I am on board.

However the eye for an eye attitude would also mean that if someone kidnaps, tortures and kills your child you'd also have to do the same to their child. Now would you?

I most certainly wouldn't. Yes the guilty should be hanged to death. However I don't see myself capable of doing the same thing in return not even to the criminal himself.

Yes. I think one should stay within all legal boundaries when looking to go for "eye for eye". For me, boundary includes both Islamic boundary as well as local boundary (Canadian laws).
 
People in power will always rationalise their abuses with the justification of an eye for an eye.

Firstly one must define exactly what they mean by an eye for an eye.
 
People in power will always rationalise their abuses with the justification of an eye for an eye.

Firstly one must define exactly what they mean by an eye for an eye.

Well, people in power should hand out appropriate punishments. If punishment is too light, then it doesn't do any good.

Eye for eye should happen on a case by case basis. Key is to use common sense.
 
I always hold everything against a person who bullies me and once he is down then i attack him and mentally take him out of the game - The art of war :akhtar
 
Mutual respect, that's how I see it. I treat people nicely and expect similar behavior. It's easy to be rude so if one is bad to me, expect similar reaction from me.
 
Well, people in power should hand out appropriate punishments. If punishment is too light, then it doesn't do any good.

Eye for eye should happen on a case by case basis. Key is to use common sense.

On whose definition of common sense?
 
No, it's called waffle.

Some people just love to be deliberately obtrusive.

You tell him, Pakistani Jones.

I hate all this waffle about actually defining the concepts being discussed.

They are so intrusive asking for explanation of their rationale.

Thanks for clearing it up.
 
I generally have an eye for eye approach in life. It means I treat and view people same way they treat and view me. I think this approach is fair.

What about you?

No it’s terrible because there is no end to it,

Forgiveness is the way as it ends the cycle of suffering. That doesn’t mean that there should be no justice. But justice must be there for reform, not revenge.
 
If forgiveness is the simple answer to suffering, there should be no mental illness at all. Everyone will follow it instead of buying expensive pills.
 
No it’s terrible because there is no end to it,

Forgiveness is the way as it ends the cycle of suffering. That doesn’t mean that there should be no justice. But justice must be there for reform, not revenge.

From the victims point of view - what should be the punishment?
 
From the victims point of view - what should be the punishment?

It’s from the state’s POV not the victims’ else you get revenge not rehabilitation and the cycle of violence continues.
 
It’s from the state’s POV not the victims’ else you get revenge not rehabilitation and the cycle of violence continues.

Do you think rehabilitation really works? I bet it doesn't work most of the time.

Some criminals can't be cured. They deserve swift death penalties.
 
don't know about life but in ludo star it absolutely is . Also, I am legit addicted to ludo star thanks to this stay at home smh.
 
Do you think rehabilitation really works? I bet it doesn't work most of the time.

Some criminals can't be cured. They deserve swift death penalties.

Prison works 50% of the time in the U.K. in that offenders do not reoffend. The reoffending rate is lower in Scandinavia where they put more money into their prison systems.

Very few people are truly bad. They suffer from a lack of nurture. The prison system attempts to correct the failures of others - patents, the housing sector and schooling. Most offenders in the U.K. have come from chaotic home environments and done badly at school. They have not learned the connection between their behaviour and consequence because nobody ever showed them. Prison attempts to show them how to connect cause with effect.
 
Case by case basis.

We have the in-built “fight or flight” response for a reason IMO. We need to choose one or the other each time.

Sometimes it is correct to battle back and deal out justice, and sometimes it is correct to walk away and forgive.
 
Case by case basis.

We have the in-built “fight or flight” response for a reason IMO. We need to choose one or the other each time.

Sometimes it is correct to battle back and deal out justice, and sometimes it is correct to walk away and forgive.

As Meher Baba said, love and forgiveness is not for the faint-hearted. Look at Mandela. Look at the Northern Irish. It’s saying - this stops with me. My children will not inherit my anger and bitterness. Saying “I forgive you” is an act of true power.
 
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